CAN WE DISCUSS THE LEGENDS ZA STARTER LINE UP?
Typhlosion fags disconsidered, can we all agree that this is the worst starter line up ever made?
Chikorita:
>Chikorita has literally no fans and was the most unpopular Pokémon among the Johto starters
>the most recent controversy revolving Chikorita was silly in-fighting about Chikorita's unpopularity stemming from sexism, which actually made Chikorita more popular
Tepig:
>the most mind boggling choice for starter imaginable, the apex of the Fire/Fight types fatigue, a Pokémon that is both ugly and terrible to use
>least popular starter in all early polls for ZA and all starter data from Unova
>Tepig is so mind-boggling that an entire thread could be dedicated to how mediocre it is in terms of design, skillset and stats
Totodile:
>was not even the most popular starter in his own game, losing to a Pokémon that cannot be brought back because of a sex scandal
>it is answering for 55 to 70% of all starter picks on all polls, as its counterweight is not present anymore
Name a single Pokémon game that had a worse starter line up. They tried to remake Johto, but forgot to give players a single reason to be excited about their starter Pokémon.
>>58163402 (OP)
Pearl and Diamond & Sword and Shield
Those 6 are worse than Johto
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 2:55:02 AM
No.58163452
>>58163800
>>58163402 (OP)
if you had blamed Game Freak for the FreakLeak instead of canceling Typhlosion we would have gotten a useable starter set instead of this pure crap. You should have defended typhlosion along with the few REAL Pokémon fans instead of joining the cancel campaign fueled by secondaries and pedophiles.
You asked for this. You settled for less.
Let this be a teachable moment. Fight for more next time
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:01:07 AM
No.58163476
>>58163426
Pearl and Diamond had solid starters that are evenly matched in popularity polls. Also, Piplup and Chimchar had very good designs.
>Sword and Shield
Both Sobble and Scorbunny are very popular picks to this day.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:02:24 AM
No.58163481
>>58163564
>>58163426
Pic related proves pearl and diamond starters are evenly matched.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:05:21 AM
No.58163493
>>58163510
>>58163402 (OP)
>was not even the most popular starter in his own game
Whatever poll you are using: It's shit.
It has always been a two-ways tie with Cyndaquil and Totodile. It's not like other generations where there was a clear favourite.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:09:50 AM
No.58163510
>>58163543
>>58163564
>>58163493
The 2025 official TPC polls are shit? There Typhlosion is the 5th most popular Pokémon among all of Johtomons, while Feraligatr doesn't make it to the top 20 and Meganium (ironically, Meganium is more popular than Emboar in the pre-release starter polls) might as well not exist.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:13:07 AM
No.58163526
>>58163402 (OP)
Don’t worry bros, its mega will save it after the dogshit that’s mega gatr and mega meganium
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:16:49 AM
No.58163543
>>58163510
Bro, how many times has this chart been posted?
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:24:15 AM
No.58163564
>>58163402 (OP)
>>58163481
>>58163510
If all you care about is popularity then all the Jhoto starters are getting megas which will buff that making your past charts useless
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:56:43 AM
No.58163677
>>58163705
OP is a faggot, this is literally the best starter lineup possible. Best starter of each type
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:02:32 AM
No.58163701
>>58163786
>>58163402 (OP)
>Typhlosion fags disconsidered
>They tried to remake Johto, but forgot to give players a single reason to be excited about their starter Pokémon.
You aren't very good at this, typedo.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:04:54 AM
No.58163709
>>58163402 (OP)
Feraligatr USED to be cool but then they turned it into a manboob alcoholic
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:30:55 AM
No.58163786
>>58163836
>>58163701
You don’t have to be a typedo to know the eclair was the only johto starter to even have fans, johturd is such shit dex that a piece of shit like the yellow eclair is in the top 5 in that shithole
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:35:37 AM
No.58163800
>>58163452
Typohlosion is still a shitmon and shir starter
>>58163786
your favorite gen's most popular pokemon is a fucking lamp
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:49:54 AM
No.58163851
>>58165263
>>58163402 (OP)
>Typhlosion fags disconsidered, can we all agree that this is the worst starter line up ever made?
Not even close, it's still pic related. These useless fucks will NEVER be dethroned from the title of most dogshit starter lineup.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 5:06:38 AM
No.58163906
>>58163915
>>58163836
it's a chandelier, and it's fucking awesome
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 5:10:38 AM
No.58163923
>>58163915
oh no i'm not the other guy, i just jumped in to defend chandelure's honor
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 5:12:11 AM
No.58163930
>>58165276
>>58163836
90% of the johtroon dex is made up of reddit mascots like wooper and togepi or ugly shitmons like gligar dunsparce stantler that only quirky chungus fags like
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 5:19:07 AM
No.58163953
>>58163836
>>58163915
KEK
gottem
It's always DSbabies trying to start shit
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 3:59:53 PM
No.58165263
>>58165395
>>58165952
>>58163851
Dewott and Pignite are great designs and it has at least one good final stage in Serperior.
Who the hell doesn't like Chikorita?
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:06:09 PM
No.58165276
>>58163930
you're an insecure faggot if you're afraid to like cutemons
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:09:24 PM
No.58165283
>>58165270
Compfags. But their opinions are irrelevant, they'd slit their mom's throat for even the slightest increase in the chance to win a single battle.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:11:07 PM
No.58165292
>>58165301
>>58165270
People who are bad at video games and hardwiped against Falkner and Bugsy
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:12:48 PM
No.58165299
>>58163402 (OP)
Gamefreak isn’t going to care what the fanbase thinks. Just deal with it and move on
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:23:09 PM
No.58165331
>>58165270
everyone who isn't a contrarian or a woman
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:32:21 PM
No.58165359
>>58165875
>>58163402 (OP)
Their options were limited, especially because they probably wanted three that did not have mega evolution yet and didn't have a game in a while.
>KANTOOOO starters all already have mega evolutions
>Typhlosion was already a starter for PLA
>Hoenn starters already all have mega evolutions
>gen4 just had its remakes two years ago
>Oshawott was a PLA starter
>they obviously didn't want to recycle the gen6 starters for the game set in the region without it being a remake
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:42:21 PM
No.58165382
>>58163402 (OP)
Don't talk shit about Totodile, you pizza-faced goon. That being said, it is weird they used two Johto starters after the last game did each Starter from a different Generation.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:45:11 PM
No.58165389
they should have used popplio as the water starter to make the distribution more even.
>all 3 from different gens
>all 3 are inarguably the least popular starters so it'll force someone to pick a non-favorite instead of just going for the normally reasonably popular gatr
>doesn't make it look like they're excluding typhlosion and tacitly legitimizing the leaks, LMAO
seriously it's such a dumb lineup just because it makes no sense. If a fangame had this starter lineup everyone would be calling it beyond retarded.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:46:47 PM
No.58165396
>>58165409
>>58163402 (OP)
I don’t care I’m planning to get a fenniken anyway
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:53:25 PM
No.58165409
>>58165396
/thread
If you don’t like it just pick a Kalos one
If you still don’t like it just run a different Mega and go starterless like me in every fucking game
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 5:34:49 PM
No.58165545
>It’s le bad because it break muh imaginary pattern
typical vp
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:07:51 PM
No.58165867
>>58165875
>>58163402 (OP)
It should have been Torchic for the Hoenn rep.....
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:12:34 PM
No.58165887
>>58163426
Yes on SS, no on DP. They are about equal
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:30:14 PM
No.58165952
>>58165263
Serperior is the worst designed Grass type in the entire series and the only reason it's not the worst design full stop is because Samurott is right there.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:38:00 PM
No.58165991
>>58166048
Outside of comp, what exactly is wrong with the Johto starters? Their designs are inoffensive at worst, it doesn’t seem like they’re very contentious overall. It’s like people just think they’re boring more than anything else.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:42:17 PM
No.58166011
>>58163402 (OP)
>Legends games should only focus on buffing popular pokemon and nothing else because I will cry like a baby if I have to pick a mon that I don't like
This is why you guys are not in charge and I'm thankful for that. These pokemon are picked for a reason and it's because they're in dire need of buffing and promotion.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 7:49:13 PM
No.58166048
>>58166169
>>58165991
> what exactly is wrong with the Johto starters
Clearly something since they consistently rank the lowest in starter rankings, and Game freak hated one of them so much they ruined it with rape pastas.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 8:22:18 PM
No.58166169
>>58166940
>>58166048
Cyndaquil and Totodile got the first and second place among reddit's favorite starters.
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 11:38:29 PM
No.58166940
>>58166169
Even then the first stages are really popular.