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Anonymous No.58166603 >>58166660 >>58166798 >>58166966 >>58166998 >>58167035 >>58167102 >>58167723 >>58168199
How well represented is this series in Smash Bros.?
Anonymous No.58166660
>>58166603 (OP)
I was impressed that melee had graphics like pokemon stadium 2. I wish my gamecube controller officially worked on my 3ds version. Pokemon representation got better after the n64 but I like wii u more than ultimate.
Anonymous No.58166798 >>58166946 >>58169701
>>58166603 (OP)
It’s fine. The pokeball item is a really good representation of the series. They maybe could represent more stuff of the franchise beyond the mainline games and anime. Some might complain that too many of the playable characters are from gen 1, but the only one I’d be fine with cutting out of them is Jigglypuff.
It’s a bit weird that we didn’t get a new Pokemon stage in Ultimate. Alola would have plenty of locations for good stages and rn we have 3 Kanto stages (Saffron, Stadium 1, Pokefloats), 1 Sinnoh stage (Spear Pillar), 1 Unova stage (Unova league), 2 Kalos stages (lumiose, kalos league) and 1 unconfirmed (stadium 2)
Anonymous No.58166946
>>58166798
Jigglypuff should never be cut. Anyone from Smash 64 should be permanent.
Anonymous No.58166966 >>58166983 >>58167635
>>58166603 (OP)
Incineroar being here is so fucking stupid. At least the other pokemon were topical for their time, he was just picked because Pokemon HAD to have a new rep. It's especially bad because launch ultimate only got 6 new characters.
They better not add Meowscarda in the next one. Zygarde would be an awesome pick though.
Anonymous No.58166983
>>58166966
It'll be cut of there's another Smash
Anonymous No.58166998
>>58166603 (OP)
Trainer and Incineroar are the only fun characters from this series
Anonymous No.58167035 >>58167635
>>58166603 (OP)
Unovabros...why don't we have a playable character?
Anonymous No.58167055
Chandelure and TF2 Heavy are my 2 character wants for the next Smash.
Anonymous No.58167102 >>58167551 >>58167635 >>58167753 >>58167757
>>58166603 (OP)
We need Eevee playable, he is the secondary mascot of the franchise.
Anonymous No.58167551 >>58167561
>>58167102
Bro, Charizard?
Anonymous No.58167561
>>58167551
Outside of the TCG, Eevee and its evolutions are shilled more than the Charmander line.
Anonymous No.58167635 >>58167894
It's fine for the most part, I think Pokemon Trainer is an absolute triumph of translating Pokemon's mechanics to a fighting game and I don't really have too much of an issue with moooosst of the choices. Incin is definitely a step down but let's not act like Lucario and Greninja weren't put in for the exact same "TCPI wants to sell you this Pokemon" reasons, the only difference is people didn't warm up to Incin.
When it comes to the movesets I also think they're good for everyone except Jigglypuff, who desperately needs her kit to be reworked after being dogshit since Melee (and being broken in Melee) and Lucario, who's aura gimmick is completely made up and actively detrimental to it to the point where them lessening aura's effectiveness and making Lucario more consistent at lower percents was considered enough of a buff to momentarily get people to play the character again.

For the next Smash, I'd really rather get some popular legacy Pokemon over [newest starter from next generation] though truthfully it'd be hard to pinpoint exactly one that hasn't been shilled to death at this point.
>>58166966
>It's especially bad because launch ultimate only got 6 new characters.
Disingenuous, some veterans were reworked to the point where they're basically newcomers, *especially* Ivysaur and Squirtle, who play next to nothing like their Brawl counterparts, Ivysaur especially was the single worst character in Brawl but was the strongest part of Pokemon Trainer before she got nerfed.
>>58167102
We really don't.
>>58167035
Skipped because of missing the Smash release timing, same reason there's nothing from Gen 3 (unless you count PT since its the FRLG design).
Anonymous No.58167723 >>58167833
>>58166603 (OP)
dogshit, it's unreal there is absolutely nothing from PMD. No songs, no costumes, no stages, no characters
Anonymous No.58167753
>>58167102
I like how in ultimate they made an effort to unearth clasdic pokemon.
In the pokeballs, smash 64 only had gen 1 pokemon. From then on, in order to add more new pokemon they kept cutting from the gen 1 pool. This happens with other generations as well for all games except Ultimate

I love how the added Abra, Vulpix and Eevee and then a whole bunch of spirits that are not judt the legends like most other gens. They are hyper recognizable characters, so Smash should pull from those instead of trying to predict a popular starter
Anonymous No.58167757
>>58167102
The worst part about Eevee shilling is they try to put emphasis on Eevee itself as if that's the reason people like it at all. People love Eeveelutions, Eevee is as bad of a forced mascot as Jigglypuff was. It basically replaced Jigglypuff and it's not going to be replaced itself because Eeveelutions still hard carry this franchise
Anonymous No.58167833
>>58167723
grovyle playable when
Anonymous No.58167894
>>58167635
>We really don't.
I don't see why it can't/shouldn't happen. It would be neat to evolve mid-battle based on your preferred Eeveelution/playstyle.
We already have 3 Links, 80 different Kirby forms, and dozens of clones anyway.
Anonymous No.58168199
>>58166603 (OP)
Gotta love how Sakurai really just said “Fuck Popplio and it’s evolutionary line”

Not even a spirit
Anonymous No.58168251
Jigglypuff is gay and I hope she isn't in the next game.
Anonymous No.58168397 >>58168405
Hawlucha should have greninja's spot.
Tinkaton should be the gen 9 rep.
Anonymous No.58168405 >>58168438
>>58168397
75 isn't worthy of being gen 9's rep.
Anonymous No.58168438
>>58168405
Smash doesn't have the little girl with a big weapon trope yet, or the gremlin archetype.
If we get another "cool" humanoid pokemon rep I'm going to scream.
Anonymous No.58169701
>>58166798
To be fair, Only reason there are two Kalos stages is basically Smash for (when Kalos was relevant) being two games.