Thread 58171765

What are some insane pokemon headcanons that you’ve heard about?

Ditto is a failed mew clone.

Crazy this post blew up as hard as it did when Game Freak's incompetence could explain that they just sprited Erika one way and then flipped it without consideration of her kimono

Nevermind her kimono. Why was her pokeball floating?

>>58171803
It was literally a different time and nobody knew how lazy they truly were

>>58171848
Psychic type gym more like. Sabrina has a whip and ace trainer attire, that's not psychic-coded in the slightest

>>58171898
Yeah, levitating pokeballs is a psychic thing

>>58171898
>Meanwhile in AU /vp/
Fighting Gym Leader Buffy is hot, HOT!

>>58171782
That one is one of my favorites. It's still feels unlikely to be a coincidence, yet Masuda himself said he'd never heard of it.

>>58171898
The whip was a carry-over from earlier in development where all trainers were monster tamers before the finished product became a little more american child-friendly. There is no explanation for Erika's telekinesis.

>>58171782
>>58171980
The issue with the "Ditto = Mew Clone" theory is that it's mostly circumstantial.
>Ditto shows up in locations related to Mewtwo (across multiple games and among several other locations)
>Ditto is the only Pokemon aside from Mew that learns transform (even though its whole sctick is being a copycat)
>Ditto and Mew have similar color pallets in both the regular and shiny forms (only partially true, Mew and Ditto have very similar shiny pallets but Mew has almost always been a purple while Mew is pink)
>Shared weight (along with 2 other Kanto mons)
It's a fun theory but there just isn't much concrete that supports it, no dialogue or dex entries that even hint at it.

>>58172003
Erika has telekinesis because she is rich

>>58172003
That's the point. Sabrina's design was not made with the psychic type speciality in mind, Erika's was.

The Butterfree and Venomoth theory made a lot of sense to me. It's too weird how similar Venonat and Butterfree are.

>>58171848
I don't know why people assume it's floating, I always just thought of the sprite as capturing her mid-throw, like she's tossing the ball in the air and catching it.

>Sprite shows trainer throwing a ball into the air
>WTF IS IT FLOATING?!?!?!?

>>58171765 (OP)
I'm a believer

>>58171765 (OP)
Shrinking is canon

>>58172028
Originally Ditto only appears in other unrelated grassy areas and cerulean cave(where there's TONS of other completely random pokemon). It only appears in Cinnabar mansion starting in pokemon yellow.

Mew's movepool was not planned, its creator programmed and designed it secretly by reverse engineering Mewtwo's design. To go along with the fetus of endless possibility idea he gave it transform and metronome(and the ability to learn any TM). Transform is Ditto's signature move, it was made for it. Metronome is Clefairy's signature move, it was made for it. The moves' relation to Mew was incidental/retroactive. Mew isn't related to Clefairy(also pink!!1!) because it can learn Metronome.

>>58172112
The cut child that was Viridian's original gym leader was numbered 1(with Brock being 2 and misty 3)

In the beta map sketch Viridian is number 2 meaning the gym leader numbers from the unrelated sketch are not tied to the map numbers.

>>58172028
Hence why it's always been an insane reach by spastics to me. Never once made sense, never referenced by the devs in any shape or form, never highlighted by moonrune speaking anons as being legitimate with home market,.

>>58172135
Metronome was a TM in gen 1.

>>58172135
Mew was an open secret to everyone in the office, even fucking tajiri knew and encouraged Morimoto to add it to the master after they took out the debug tools. It was meant as a proper fucking myth pokémon that they could reveal. Gen 1's glitchiness forced their hand as people found out about it.

>>58171782
this is way too cool for me to even care if it is true or not. it's true in my head.

>>58172338
They didn't find the Mew glitch until years later. There were in-person events where you would get traded a Mew when the game was new before that. Plus the game talks about Mew in diaries in the burnt mansion. So people definitely didn't find out about Mew from glitches...

>>58172356
I'm not talking about the Mew glitch OR Blue source code, you stupid monkey. OG RG was even GLITCHIER than Blue (what became Red and Blue in the west) and some Japanese players found Mew through it by chance and started writing Nintendo asking about it, leading to the CoroCoro giveaway (300k entries for 20 Mew only).
Which then got repurposed for the west, stripping the clear distinction between how they'd presented it separate from the legends in the East by calling it a Legend giveaway in burgerville

>>58172325
Really? I've seen it a lot in the Japanese community. In fact I'm pretty sure the first post about it was on 2chan. There's a lot more Ditto/Mew stuff than Reginosis in the Japanese fandom.

>>58172419
Masuda said when Game Informer asked him about it that was the first he'd heard about it. The fact he'd claimed utter ignorance, than relate being asked that by Japanese-based fans/interviewers points to it being utterly unknown in the East. But they had a better grasp of what Pokémon were to the point, they didn't need to headcanon a shapeshifter as being related to a different, but similar but different mechanics in its shapeshifting shapeshifter.

>>58171885
Funny thing is, Game Freak forgetting to fix the sprite is still true even if the twitter post's schizo theory is true.

>>58172427
I knew about the game informer thing. But I don't think that doesn't mean it wasn't popular in the east. Masuda could've simply not seen the particular parts of the eastern community (like 2chan) that regularly discussed it.

>>58171765 (OP)
Tell me your youtube channel, and I'll tell you my headcanon.

I don't even hate the headcanon of ditto having a relationship to mew, just the "it's a failed clone" part that feels dumb and too much of a stretch especially with how prolific ditto is. Just "ditto might be a byproduct from mew cells while she was being experimented on" works a lot better. The specifics aren't important, just like with the vague relationship between voltorb and pokeballs(before the regional "retcon")

>>58172112
I'd have sooner expected erika to use the eeveelutions because of the whole kimono girl thing

I'd like some kind of confirmation that Ditto are naturally occurring species.

Also, I'm surprised the "Guzzlord came from Muk" theory is unmentioned. It feels quite canon, and in hindsight proves that everything is dragons.

>>58171765 (OP)
Regigigas created human.
>Regis: have 7 holes
>Human: have 7 holes(eyes, nose, mouth, and ears)

>>58173521
How about butt and vagina?

>>58171765 (OP)
Honestly, this one at least has some logic behind it. Japanese people are very serious about details involving death so Erika's sprite originally wearing kimono like a dead person is bit off.
The part about her being Ghost-type leader is made up bullcrap, but it's clear that there were some shenanigans early in the production and character using Erika's sprite had different purpose originally.
Either Erika's sprite was originally just a sprite for channeler class, or there was something else going on. Maybe instead of Mr.Fuji there would be a priestess attempting to calm Marowak's spirit with some kind of rituals? And maybe she was supposed to just disappear after fight, which would imply along with her kimono that she was also just a spirit?

Again, it's just a headcanon but there's an obvious detail pointing out that something was changed in the process.

>>58172168
Considering there are 8 numbers with a bigger square around the number, doesn't that imply those were the gym locations? Or maybe I'm retarded and those extra squares just mean cities.

>>58171765 (OP)
Pokemon are data, or are stored as energy in pokeballs etc

>>58171765 (OP)
That pokemon don't have sex

>>58171988
>>58171970
Cute, love this

>>58171765 (OP)
Beta Ruins of Alph was based on ground Zero and Unown are the Hiroshima victims

>>58173611
That's confirmed false.
https://youtu.be/Qil4OpfOufU - While this guy is pretentious fag and most of his videos are absolute garbage, this specific one is kinda cool because it explains exact origins of Ruins of Alph. It's actually based on ruins found in Asuka.

It's actually kinda notable how between GSC and HGSS Archaelogysts found an underground temple with paintings showing Suzaku on one of the walls so in HGSS Gamefreak added special interaction for Ho-Oh there. Few years ago, thanks to advancements in robotics, scientists could reach deeper into that temple and discoveredthere also paintings showing rest of four Chinese beasts.

I still like the idea of Ditto being failed clones of Mew.

>>58172433
Mr. Haha I Don't Know could also just be lying.

>>58171765 (OP)
That Lorelei transitioned into Will

>>58171782
Which is blatantly fake and people have to come up with "facts" in order to even propose shit like this

This could have been a fun theory in 2001 but we KNOW FOR CERTAIN now that this is not the case, not only because that lying bastard masuda told us not, I don't give a F what he thinks about Pokémon, the guy doesn't even know type matchups.

But Morimoto himself (and about a dozen more people) confirmed, multiple times by multiple sources that Mew was added last minute (with everyone knowing btw) and so he drew it reverse engeneering mewtwo in that minuscule space that was left.

Ditto was created YEARS before Mew, and Ironically, even MewTWO was.

It's not a "thoery" is just random bullshit someone spew up one random monday and people believed it like it was tajiri himself telling them to believe it.

- Only two that learn transform: Uh uh, one is a mimic, the other is "the progenitor of all pokemon" makes sense to me (and they didn't have time to create a move specifically for him
- "Ditto is only found in places related to Mew" which is... completely false, let alone the later games where ditto is literally everywhere around the map in random locations because... you know, that could be attribuited to gameplay design but..

did you fucks ever fact-checked this information? In Red and Green (And blue) Ditto could be find in R13, 14, 15 and 23 and NOT in the pokemon mansion, that is a change that FireRed and Leaf Green made, you know

So yeah we could discard all this and say that they are both... Pink! and have the same weight and height, seems plausible to make a theory based on that right?

>>58173624
"Comfirmed false"
Is a bit biased.
Sure they may be inspired ALSO by that thing (the ones we have in the final games are) but we are talking about the Beta here, and the thought behind it

>>58171765 (OP)
I heard pokemon games used to be good

She was always a creepier bitch than Sabrina

>>58173792
Are you retarded, people mean within the story lore not within the development of the game
Its irrelevant if ditto was thought of years before mew.

>>58172112
Pretty much every change from the beta was for the worse
Some no fun allowed cunts got in the way somehow

>>58171765 (OP)
I keep pushing that Dendra and Tulip are a kanto reference to Sabrina and the Karate Master from the dojo

>>58173846
You fucking Idiot:

How could Ditto be "Pink like mew" and "be the same height and weight as mew" IF MEW DIDN'T FUCKING EXIST!?

I could entertein the idea of ditto being a failed mew clone but at that point in time mew didn't literally exist so you wouldn't have been able to make pink dittoes, especially since mewtwo is purple/grey, one would assume mew (and consequently ditto) would be the case, but that's just not it.

Ditto was born to be the Slime from dragon quest with abilities of a mimic monster, nothing less nothing more (You could also find animon, his scrapped evo of gen 2 clearly based on the metal slime)

>>58173868
Are we talking past each other?
It doesnt matter when mew was thought of, only the end result and how it fits

>>58173868
>You could also find animon, his scrapped evo of gen 2 clearly based on the metal slime
which ended up in the games as meltan :3

>>58173874
the only thing that fits it that it is pink and has the same height, literally the only thing that fits.

- Ditto was not made with Mew in mind
- Ditto is NOT found in places related to Mew

If you think the fucking color and height is enough to be a theory then sure go on I won't stop you from making a fool out of yourself

>>58173832
As much as I like final and current interpretation of Erika, the concept of beautiful but slightly unsettling shrine maiden is kinda... neat?

>>58173900
and, you know, the whole mimicking every pokemon's dna thing

>>58173911
Didn't I already write about OF COURSE the Adam of the pokemon world, the one that is capable of learning everymove and has the dna of every pokèmon in existance would know transform?
The move that was made specifically for Ditto, the mimic pokèmon YEARS before mew was created (and once again we know this as a fact from the way moves are coded into the game)

Mew was added so late that they couldn't program a move specifically for him so they recycled what they already got, and Ditto's move was the one that made more sense,

>>58173521
who created trees then?

>>58172079
The pose and eyes closed makes it look like a mystical levitation thing

>>58171765 (OP)
It's a chest guard because she's into Japanese archery. This is carried over in the Pokemon Special manga where she's an archer and wears a chest guard.

>>58174288
The original concept art makes it a lot more clear that she's just throwing it, her eyes aren't even closed. >>58172112

>>58173792
>>58173868
I don't believe in the theory (since it's officially deconfirmed) but you're an idiot. If they did want Ditto to be a Mew clone there would be nothing stopping them from designing Mew to match Ditto, which was made first is irrelevant. Also colours didn't even exist in Gen 1 and the Sugi art was made after the fact so they easily could've changed then as well. Your logic is faulty, the only thing you've proven is that Ditto was not directly designed after Mew but that's irrelevant.

>>58171765 (OP)
That scientist chick who Brock was thirsting over and worked for her for a while. Then he returned abruptly completely blue faced and refused to elaborate what the fuck happened.
Either the “chick” was a man all along or she tried to fuck him basically destroying him.

>>58174349
I always thought she had a boyfriend/husband and Brock got heartbroken

Here is a crazy one that I am thinking of using in a fanfic.

I don't think it's necessarily true but it would be cool and I don't think canon can disprove.

Pokémon, as a species, is trying to take the place of every single living creature on Earth.

>They successfully got rid of every animal (or most of them) except humans
>There is a bunch of plant Pokémon, some of them even produce fruits. But they still are far of replacing them
>There are a few fungi Pokémon already. Obviously they are far of replacing them yet.
>I don't think there is mention of bacteria and microscopic organism in Pokémon and I am inclined to believe they either don't exist or they've been replaced of a yet to confirm Pokémon species
>There is only one virus: PokéRus. Which I believe are Pokémon.
>Even aliens are Pokémon!

We are only left with human and you could argue human-like Pokémon are possibke candidates in replacing humans. But I like to think that humans ALREADY ARE Pokémon, we just don't know. Humans are lowkey capable of doing amazing feats in the Pokémon world such as tanking pokémon attacks as if it was nothing, being generally physically stronger and having psychic powers. Humans are not only Pokémon, but they are very powerful as well

>>58172028
I believe you're correct only because I don't think Gamefreak is competent enough to do anything subtly

>>58171765 (OP)
Regigignosis
QRD:
>Flame Plate explains the plates are made of the power of defeated giants
>Earth Plate explains that the plates are also the shards of the universal creation
>pmyth5.2."AUSU" from Leak directly explains this
>states that in the beginning there was nothing, then the cosmic egg appears and when it hatched, arceus(Aus) was born and the eggshells of the cosmic egg became giants of every element that attack Arceus out of "Jungian Fear of Existing after an eternity of non-existence." Arceus kills all the giants until they are nothing more than plates.
>Giants are described as "きょだい" specifically "Kyoo~jin" which emphasises "Giant Giants" relative to other instances of other giants like the lesser regis being called 巨人 "Kyojin" just Giants.
>Regigigas is referred to as the "きょだいポケモン" or "Kyoo~dai Pokemon"
>Leaked Emetology doc explains Regigigas' concept as being "きょじん" 'Kyojin" specifically like the giants mentioned in the flame plate
>There was no normal plate until Legends Arceus. This lead most in the Japanese community to conclude that Regigigas was the normal type "Kyoo~Jin" that was defeated but not turned into a plate, just beaten and weakened by arceus.
>Slow Start has the same premise as the move "Curse" that slow and curse are a pun together and imply that Regigigas was Cursed for his actions again Arceus.
>Regigigas have Slow Start in every single game no matter what, even spinoffs to emphasize that he is always cursed by this even when abilities aren't present
>Regigigas tries to remake his fallen giant brothers out of earthly materials in the form of the lesser regis
>Arceus sees all of them as a threat and has humanity seal all of them

This explains why in the manga and anime Regigigas will throw hands the second he sees a creation trio member as well as why he is so fucking strong that he can throw palkia and Giratina around. He is the prime cosmic egg giant just in a weakened state.

>>58173948
NTA, but Mew originally was used in debugging and was technically one of the first Pokemon programmed in the game due to this. Also despite not being supposed to be programmed in the game, diary in Cinnabar still is mentioning his existence.

Fact that Mew was re-added to the game post-debbuging does not mean that it's literally the final Gen I Pokemon that was every created and there's ZERO things indicating that it was created before or after Ditto.

>>58174346
The super game boy colors(after the sprites, pre-artwork) was in sugimori's words "the first time they had to think about and choose a Pokemon's color". Ditto has the grey color pallet, the one they use for geodude, rhyhorn, etc. other Pokemon that were grey at that point and later changed where cubone/eevee and they have even talked specifically about choosing grey for Eevee because they wanted it to convey neutrality. A similar logic can be inferred about Ditto. The pink color pallet was very much available as they used it for other Pokemon. Mew doesn't use the pink color pallet either(neither grey).

Tldr: when they first added colors mew and ditto weren't even the same color

>>58174451
>NTA, but Mew originally was used in debugging
Not true. Mew appears early in the index slot because it was fit in the first one available from the gaps left from the cut pokemon. It took Omega's slot which is why Omega's backsprite is the only cutmon not featured in that backsprite leak

>>58174464
>Not True
It's literally official statement by fat fuck Morimoto that Mew was the debugging placeholder. Yes you are right that the reason why it appears so early in the index is because Mew was added into one of the free slots, but that's happened when it was re-added after being removed due to being literal placeholder.

>>58171765 (OP)
Red killing Blue's Raticate is the dumbest fan theory.

>Red's Pokemon only evolved on the SS Anne
>Red has no ability to gauge his team's strength even after seeing evolved mons like Starmie already
>Blue, the trainer who is always shown as ahead of you, is suddenly woefully unprepared
>Blue has no other reason to get Raticate off of his team, like it being weak and sharing a type with Pidgeot
>Blue also is pretending not to be mad in Lavender Tower
Dumb shit.

>>58174443
This is reinforced by the Japanese wiki actually listing Regigigas as being one of the giants as a matter of fact on their wiki:
https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88
https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%AE%E3%82%AC%E3%82%B9

And if you go on japanese forums or 2chan, it is accepted as a matter of fact as well that the implication of the writing is implicit in stating that Regigigas was one of the original Giants, example:
https://pokemonbbs.com/post/read.cgi?no=2381693

This premise has been popular since 2012 with even a popular artist in Japan, gngmrkas, creating a series about Regigigas and Arceus' antagonism against eachother based on this.

From what I understand, the updated concept of this now that Arceus Legends introduced the normal plate is that Regigigas' giant power was put into the plate and that is why he is so weak now and or Regigigas is kind of a daisy chain entity where he was created by the giants from what was left of the eggshells and the regis were then made by him..

>>58174482
You are remembering it wrong or you must have mistranslated some quote about mew and debugging, mew was added due to the data space they freed up after they deleted the debugging tools

Or by all means source your non existing statement

>>58174327
I don't think it does, actually. Look at her pose. Grab a ball or small toss-able object and adopt her position. Now, toss the ball a few times while taking note of your own appearance while doing so. Do it in front of a mirror or record it on your phone.
Erika's posture here is relaxed. Her arms aren't raised. Where is the evidence of her wind-up?

>>58173792
why are anti-theory schizos like this

>>58174349
She was a lesbian.

>>58174542
He's definitely talking out of his ass because the "fat fuck" is nishino. If anything morimoto was the hot one

>>58172112
Verlisify's latest video shows a Kanto fan on Twitter debunking this by pointing out Ghost didn't even exist as a type yet at this point in development.

>>58172325
Just like most autists, you are unable to contextualize information.
Here's an old joke:
There are two types of people. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data,

>>58172453
>the "it's a failed clone" part that feels dumb and too much of a stretch
no it doesn't
>Just "ditto might be a byproduct from mew cells while she was being experimented on" works a lot better
so a clone

>>58173509
>I'd like some kind of confirmation that Ditto are naturally occurring species.

>"Additionally, Ditto strongly resembles an amoeba, a single-celled organism with no definite shape. This may emphasize its ability to alter its cellular composition. This could also explain why Ditto is unavailable through breeding, since single-celled organisms reproduce differently from multi-cellular plants and animals. It also could partially be based on an undifferentiated cell, a cell in the body that can change into any other cell by sampling it. In addition, it could have been based on a blob or modeling clay."

>>58174535
>>58174443
Makes me wish Regigigas wasn't an ugly, useless waste of space, and had a design that actually matched up to the lore, or at least looked half as cool as the other regis.

>>58175048
You implying Regigigas doesn't look badass?

>>58175073
I'm outright stating it, tubby blobby fatass with moss on and three rows of nipples. The only failure of Regi design.

>>58175094
the first Regigigas hater

>>58174418
But can human shrink?

Remember to be a pocket monster, you need to be pocket size.

>>58172028
Well yeah, that's why it's a theory and not confirmed canon

>>58175094
The worst taste

The big nipple girl

Not really that big of a theory but I think that AZ firing the Ultimate Weapon is the reason Eternatus woke up and then cause the Darkest Day in Galar
>both events happened 3000 years ago
>despite crashing into Galar 20000 years ago Eternatus remained dormant until 3000 years ago
>this is because it 'feeds' on energy but despite being there for 17000 years at the time didn't have enough energy to actually awaken since it was just leeching off the residual energy lingering around Galar
>AZ fires the Ulimate Weapon in Kalos releasing a huge burst of energy throughout the world
>this burst was enough to give Eternatus the energy needed to wake up
Nothing too crazy but I like it because it connects two seemingly unrelated events in the Pokémon world

>>58175179
stop posting porn on a blue board

>>58175012
Damn what a sexy bod he had

>>58175024
No, saying it's a failed clone has a very specific meaning that before or after Mewtwo Fuji deliberately tried to make another clone but it "failed" and instead turned into Ditto

"Is a byproduct of Mew cells" leaves things vague for all sorts of possibilities. Maybe Fuji discarded some mew cells he was harvesting and somehow(x-rays from the moon?) they turned into Ditto. Maybe when Mew gave birth to Mewtwo the remaining amniotic fluid somehow turned into Ditto. Maybe an experiment made Mew poop or shed fur or spit that somehow turned into Ditto. Etc etc

>>58175195
No. The fact that porn is not allowed everywhere is stupid.

>>58175598
Post her or any chubby girl sucking a tiny cock.

>>58175613
That's oddly specific. Is your cock tiny?

>>58175666
Tiny and smooth. When I look for hentai with my FWBs, we have to usually cut off part of the images because they only seem to match me when they are "shota".
And I am not a damn kid.

>>58171765 (OP)
Unova nuked Kanto

>>58175676
That's really, really cute! I wanna jerk you with two fingers

>>58175716
That's not what I asked for, you big, lewd meanie!
I asked for pictures! Hurry before you get banned!

>>58175725
I don't think someone as lacking as you has any right to be so demanding~

>>58175738
Well, my two girl friends like it! And some random guys online as well! So hmph! I can demand!

>>58171782
Sick never heard that

Niggers

>>58175015
Amusing joke, but still doesn't explain the leap of faith that is "it's a failed clone" when it didn't actually exist near the Fuji lab to become a failed clone that escaped until the 3rd Japanese release. Just like every child, you forget mimics were a thing in RPG's long before Pokémon existed and Game Freak wanted MORE than just an item mimic (which was another flavour of RPG trope). Sorry you're a retarded shitebag, but you did try and argue the point in 2025, when we have all the evidence needed to tell that wasn't Game Freak's intent (and as such is one of the less sane theories regarding the series I've heard repeated).

>>58175118
If captured by a Pokéball, yes. But Big PokéBalls might very well make Pokéballs defective and not catch human on purpose.

>>58175676
Are you able to get erections or are you in the always limp club? Even when I get hornisies and have the cummies I can't get it up. I just leak everywhere

>>58175179
>>58175598
>>58175666
>>58175716
>>58175738
>Erikafags are gayerping trannies
I always knew when people was spamming that ugly literally who bitch

>>58175915
Why Blue/Green's pokeball didn't work when she tried to capture us in let's go?

>>58175934
It works just fine. It's like 10-ish cm when erect. But I wish it was smaller.

>>58175941
Big PokéBall Inc made the pokéballs not work on humon on purpose. I know it is a lame explanation. Again, I think it is something I kinda want to do a fanfic about it.

>>58176031
humans arent pokemons

>>58176063
That's what (((they))) told you

>>58175745
Post it cute nonny
>>58175939
ERP board

>>58176212
But don't make it pedo! I need to be able to cut off the little kid!

>>58176218
...you really just need to accept that you're only going to be seen as a kid with something like that between your legs! Make some pedo girls happy.

>>58176226
No way! Now I know girl A is taller than me and calls herself mommy when being lewd, but girl B is much shorter.
Absolutely no pedo business. Yucky. Just a tiny cocklet looking for fun.

>>58173792
You're mentally ill.

>>58173792
>that is a change that FireRed and Leaf Green made, you know
Damn so I guess it is canon then, huh? :)

>>58176212
>>58176226
>>58176248
join a discord xisters

>>58173900
>- Ditto is NOT found in places related to Mew
Yes it is.

>>58176248
>Absolutely no pedo business. Yucky.
Ew, never mind then! I don't like perdophobes.

>>58176282
At least post pics where I can cut off the kid and he is with adult women! That's what girl A likes.

See? You almost can't tell.

>>58176271
Ditto doesn't appear in the pokemon mansion until pokemon yellow. Ditto appears in the tall grass of a bunch of random routes. Ditto appears in Cerulean cave(which doesn't actually have a connection to mew, it's just the place mewtwo escape to, you would have to argue ditto is actually mewtwo poop) but then again so do a fuckton of random non-cave pokemon(go look them up, it's a bizarre selection), Ditto is just another rando in the pile

>>58176304
Not that freak you're replying to but you're delusional.

>>58172028
Ditto's original dex entry has mentions of an "unstable DNA", which is kind of a thing that happens with failed clones.

>>58176339
How is it delusion if the idea is that it resembles me and that I focus on that.

>>58176365
>How is it delusion if I delude myself into thinking that I'm just self-inserting and totally ignoring the child even though its super obvious
You are not very smart.
It's not fucking real, who cares.

>>58176351
>Ditto's original dex entry has mentions of an "unstable DNA"
Nope, that would be Eevee

Eevee: Its genetic code is irregular. It may mutate if it is exposed to radiation from element Stones.
Failed clone of Vulpix confirmed

>>58176351
JP Red and Green: It can freely recombine its own cellular structure to transform into other life-forms.
JP Blue and Red and Blue: Capable of copying an opponent's genetic code to instantly transform itself into a duplicate of the enemy.

So no

>>58173624
Holy fuck this video was interesting but insanely difficult to watch. How can a Pokemon YouTuber be this pretentious

>>58176468
most pokemon lore usually boils down to
>dev: we make this thing because it looks cool and also as a nod to the real thing it references
>dev: wtf why are the fans making 300-page essays about this thing being an allegory to the starving children at africa?

>>58175073
>>58175094
It's a cool design but I can see someone not liking him. His sprite looks badass but he looks dopey in some art.

Welp, I just ran across a TikTok that stole the Erika posts in this thread. Hi, Lauren. Enjoying the clout?

>>58175867
Again, play the games. Ditto is found in the same building as Mewtwo.

>>58176882
>Welp

>>58176956
>>58176334

>>58176882
And you didn't post it?
post it.

>>58176882
I am trying to look for this but Tiktok sucks. You can't sort videos by release date.
Post the link.

>>58176882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWPGjbuF9V4&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

>>58177052
I didn't stutter. Play the game.

>>58177319
Why is Ditto different from all these other random pokemon(doesn't even include the fishing/surf mons and the other floors)? Or all they all failed Mew clones too?

Did Fuji clone Mew on Celadon Cave? Or did all the Ditto rode on Mewtwo's back when it fled Cinnabar? Is that why there are no Ditto left on the Pokemon Mansion?

>>58177361
>Celadon
Cerulean*

>>58171765 (OP)
I wouldn't call it insane so much as insanely coping, but the Idea that Necrozma doesn't repress the mental state of its fusing partner when using -izer Item. Though i can't say i hate it.

Im stil headcanoning that Nebby is still a total pervert for being into it though.

>>58176956
Stamping your feet and repeating your retarded headcanon doesn't actually change jack shit monkey. Just makes you look more mentally deranged as you ignore reality so sperg about your lunatic idea.

>>58172078
We now know this is complete bunk tho. The caterpie line was designed almost a year before the venonat line, and there was no switcheroo. If anything, venonat and venomoth were possibly unrelated at first (like wartortle and blastoise) but by the point this was happening Caterpie -> Butterfree was already set in stone.

>>58174418
If they're doing it intentionally, like guided by an intelligent force or instinctual desire, the theory is lame.
If they're just out-competing mundane organisms because dog-that-breathes-fire has more prey opportunities than dog-that-breathes-air, it's kino extreme.

>>58175315
>Maybe Fuji discarded some mew cells he was harvesting and somehow(x-rays from the moon?) they turned into Ditto.
the fact this sounds better to you tells me all I need to know about your intelligence and integrity

love gen 1 because it has a lot of fun with it being weird and theories

>>58175013
That's dumb. Just because there was no ghost type doesn't mean there couldn't be ghost related themes and aesthetics that were being used. That's like saying there would be no grass in the game because grass wasn't a type yet.

>>58177312
That can't be what the anon was referring to, that's using the twitter posts that were made before this thread.

>>58177759
>Red and Green(JP, 1996): Sludge exposed to X rays from the moon transformed into Grimer. It loves feeding on filthy things.

Why can't Nidorina breed? If they were going for the menopause for the gender difference pokemon concept it should have been Nidoqueen only

>>58172028
>>58173792
Neither of you mentioned the fact that ditto's stats are an purely even distribution of 48 across the board which matches Mew's even distribution of 100. That's another point I always felt was strong in favor of the theory

>>58174535
Anon, don't use the Japanese Pokemon wiki. It steals like 90% of its information from bulbapedia, absurd as it sounds.

I'll never understand why "Ditto is a failed Mew Clone" is the nonsense that caught on, when "Ditto is the descendant of Mew that's most genetically similar" makes more sense.

>>58179265
>Steals from bulbapedia
dude it literally uses the data and lines from the Japanese games. Bulbapedia is the one that uses Google Translate on a number of "japanese translations" on their site. They think fucking Judgement is "Judgement Pebble" when のつぶて "No Tsubute" is a duel meaning of both a message (a judgement message) and Bullet (the shots we see from the move).

Bulbapedia has a complete lack of understanding of Japanese.

>>58171765 (OP)
I heard that Team Flare were originally going to be aliens but the plot was scrapped and revised in Gen 7.

>>58172028
I think all the circumstantial evidence post gen 1 comes from random employees reading the rumors and feeding into them in game just for fun

>>58173611
>>58173796
This was most likely an actual thing in the beta because the regis are an actual nuke victim homage thing.

>>58179625
lol

>>58179284
Because fan theories are just things people think are cool and a failed clone turning into goop that can transform is cooler than just being a descendant

>>58171782
>>58172028
Nah it's the opposite, they brought dittos to the pokemon mansion so that they could transform into Mew and be used as easy test subjects without hurting an extremely rare specimen

>>58173792
Wasn't Mew copyrighted (copywritten?) five years before Red and Green released?

>>58179625
>because the regis are an actual nuke victim homage thing.
Say what?

>>58175013
>Verlisify's latest video
Completely and unironically, kill yourself.

>>58180230
Debunked. It was another company that copywrote the word(for completely different purposes). Then years later when they were copywriting pokemon they stepped in to get the rights.

>>58180230
>>58180353
We must also briefly acknowledge the case of the suspicious “Mew” trademark, filed during Capsule Monster‘s development on May 9, 1990 (Registration number 2636685-12, Registration date 1994/03/31). Its spelling was, however, a bit different, being ミュー and not ミュウ. Was it the very same Mew? The answer is actually no – the patent was originally submitted by Yokohama Rubber Company for their “μ” (Greek mu) line of DURAN tires. In 1999, however, Nintendo, Creatures, and Game Freak applied to nab the trademark and change it to ミュウ, which is how their names got on the document.

>>58177174
>>58177214
>>58177312
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8B4WcXL/