Thread 58174652

what inteleon should of been.

>Inb4 "b-but fan design is worse tha-"
STFU faggot.

>>58174652 (OP)
>DUDE SOBBLE BUT BIGGER AND EDGIER LMAO
No.

>>58174684
Female focus designs are what made johto flop.

>>58174652 (OP)
what's his job now tho
some kind of knight?

>>58174652 (OP)
>Inteleon
Iterates on the theme of a shy, camouflaging chameleon by turning into a spy. Incorporates various features from other lizard species like the the ability to glide or run on water to further develop the spy theme with a secret "bag of tricks". Uses the water typing in a novel way with its water jet hand guns, also further complimenting the spy theme. The spy theme itself cleverly ties into the region's British basis especially alongside its fellow starters, a football player and a rock star drummer.
>This stupid thing
"what if a chameleon was really big and spiky"

>>58174652 (OP)
sobble should have been scrapped and replaced with any number of different fan-made starter ideas. I'm a big fan of the water possum, mangrove crab, fishing cat, and amphibious centipede as inspiration for the line.

>instead of being ugly, it should be ugly

Bravo

>>58174811
Sure, but Inteleon's design looks like crap. Execution matters more than a concept.

>>58174652 (OP)
As usual, /vp/enises being contrarians. This is pretty good and certainly better than actual Inteleon, though the spikes on the tail really feel unnecessary, maybe even the horns too.

>>58174859
The contrarian take is hating Inteleon, it's popular everywhere outside of here.

>>58174652 (OP)
>Should of
Kill yourself retard nigger piece of shit

>>58174863
contrarian is disliking something due to it being perceived as popular. It's not contrarian for people to dislike something because its design is poor. The contrarians on here, however, see that most of us here dislike inteleon, so claim to like it to be contrarian. I know english can be a bit confusing at times for those who have it as a second language but you'll get better with practice.

>>58174811
>there's a more complex theming and concept behind its design so that automatically makes the execution great!

>>58174652 (OP)
All you need to do is make Inteleon less gangly and change its gun concept into a camouflage one.
>but what about gigantimax
no clue lol

>>58174868
There's nothing bad about Inteleon's design. People on this board are just massively insecure about liking anything that isn't a big fat monster hence all the completely schizophrenic screeching about popular designs in a children's video game series being "furbait" or "tranny" or "incel".

>>58174863
It’s only popular with jap femcels, westoids don’t like it

>>58174898
>change its gun concept into a camouflage one
It still goes invisible.

>>58174909
Does it? Is this an anime-only thing?

>>58174652 (OP)
Inteleon is already great. One of the good water starters along with Swampert, Empoleon and maybe Primarina at a stretch.

>>58174904
>There's nothing bad about Inteleon's design.

>>58174867
Seethe and mald harder kike.

>>58174659
>Needs to post offmodel stop to actually prove a point
You lost

>>58174652 (OP)
It shouldn't have been this, either. It should've been that lizard that shoots blood out of its eyes, but water instead of blood

*Should’ve
not should of
you retarded illiterate faggot

>>58174811
Your entire defense of Inteleon is "it has a theme".

>>58174704
absolutely anything you did to describe it would still sound better than Inteleon lmao

>>58174811
>"The spy theme itself cleverly ties into the region's British basis especially alongside its fellow starters, a football player and a rock star drummer."
>he says this like its a good thing

>>58175136
>Noooo! You've made non-trivial spelling mistake so im going to shart my diaper in rage! REEEE!

>>58174863
that's just a straight up lie

>>58174867
>>58175136
based
>>58175541
don't you ESLs have your own websites?

>>58175552
>Samefagging his own posts
kek, Somebody is big bad.

>>58175125
Wait, that's actually kinda cool.
Sobble is a crybaby, so having its evolution weaponize its rather than stopping crying altogether is a great idea.
But I guess that's not British enough.

>>58175571
Just give it a glasses pattern and have the blood eyes be explained away as a gadget reference.

>>58175560
Intardleon cucks are getting more and more desperate and butthurt every day on /vp/. They can't even properly defend their gay jobmon starter without ad hominem seething or sperging out into schizobabble whataboutism about rillaboom.

>>58175560
>kek, Somebody is big bad.

>>58175581
All the galar starters are bad, inteleon is just the most stinky turd in the pile of shit.
>>58175583
Why are you posting your selfie anon?

>>58175581
They're not as bad and rabid as typedos or samurottfags.

>>58175605
there is no such thing as a samurottfag because it is only ever brought up to be hated on. people only like hisuian Samurott at most

>>58174707
None of the Johto starters are female pandering, retard.

>>58175581
Who hurt you?

>>58175614
wow how the fuck did you even post if you're blind

kek rillaboomers are still salty as fuck i see

>>58175662
None of the Johto mons are appealing to women, that's a fact.
>inb4 Meganium
Women don't care about fat dinosaurs.

>ESL gets called out
>instant schizobabble seething
Kek

>>58175675
>Women don't care about feminine creatures
Really now

>>58175571
When I came up with it I pictured it in one eye so it would look a bit like a monocle and one of those swiveling chameleon eyes

>>58175727
Pokémon like Blaziken or Inteleon are popular with women. And small cute mons like Eevee of course. Feminine creatures are not that appealing for them in the first place, but Meganium barely even counts as that. It's a chubby dinosaur first and foremost. It's no Gardevoir.

>>58174932
Fr. I love Lizard James Bond

>>58175687
>Low functioning autist sees a spelling mistake
>spergs out and exposes xerself as a spaz
You must be proud of yourself.

>>58174704
That’s also Inteleon
It’s bigger than Sobble and also edgier on account that snipers are edgier than cry babies.

>>58174811
Reminder to themetroons that Design alway trumps Theme. If a design is cool, beautiful, cute, sexy, or otherwise appealing, it’s automatically better than le theme designs.

>>58175552
>don't you ESLs have your own websites?
They literally don't. Their countries are too poor to make websites.

>>58176912
Left is better and its not even close

>>58176912
Both of those designs are shit. Kill yourself, pedophile.

>>58174652 (OP)
Nah
>>58174814
No way. Every starter trio should have at least one reptilian.

>>58176944
>Kill yourself, pedophile
Where’s the pedophile? I don’t see him.

>>58174707
>beloved beasts
The average Pokemon would crucify Meganium and set its corpse on fire if they could.

>>58174707
>beloved beasts
The average Pokefag would crucify Meganium and set its corpse on fire if they could.

>>58176507
>It's a chubby dinosaur
Needs to be fatter.

>should of
It's should HAVE, ESL-kun.

>>58177666
Yeah, people like you like Meganium, not women.

>>58176580
>>Low functioning autist
Just like the ESL that is OP lol

>>58176912
wtf why is the tranny right this time

>>58178044
still dogshit (shit from a dog)

>>58178044
>"fix"
>it's still just Gex

>>58176507
Well I can't be sure how popular exactly, but some that would be seen as waifumons here, like Primarina, seem to be liked by women for more normal reasons and it did dominate in that twitter poll I saw posted here. Same for Sylveon, yes it's a cute mon, but also like the most girly eevee.
But you're right, Meganium isn't really the same.

>>58178044
Having the arms attached to the cape is just stupid. The whole pointt of the design is that it's more than it appears, it's a secret agent with hidden tricks up its sleeve. You're not supposed to realize that it can glide or that it has hidden spikes in its tail or that its hands are guns until you actually see it in action.

>>58174869
You’re right, but the one in OP is just unpleasant to look at. It has a downie face and is plastered in pointless details. There really isn’t a point to the design outside of looking as ugly and retarded as possible.

>>58176912
Left is definitely a mess in terms of readability but at least it conveys that the character is supposed to be some sort of hearth goddess, even if you didn’t know about Hestia. Right doesn’t convey anything, even though it’s simpler and more visually pleasant. If you want to make an attractive Hestia just make a motherly onee-san instead of a jk.

>>58178783
>If you want to make an attractive Hestia just make a motherly onee-san instead of a jk
How the fuck does that matter when some people don't like onee-sans and others don't like JKs? Readability (objective) has nothing to do with attractiveness (subjective)

>>58176945
let's swap the lizard for a fishing cat and I'll trade the monkey for a skink or something

>>58174652 (OP)
That design doesn't really look like a Pokemon

>>58174868
>It's not contrarian for people to dislike something because its design is poor
>my opinion is a fact
Autismo, begone.

>>58174652 (OP)
And how does Sobble's design relate to this one?

i still firmly in the camp that it should have evolved into the loch ness monster

>>58179148
dude... if you dislike the design because you find the design poor, it means that's your opinion. Not a fact. You're calling me an autist when you're having to form some bizarre strawman out of "if you don't like the design on its own merits it's not contrarianism"

>>58179157
Lapras already exist

>>58179230
a chameleon mon already exists
multiple reptiles already exists
water starters already exist
better stop making all pokemon

>>58174652 (OP)
>gets giga claws out of nowhere
>loses every single chamaleon trait like the limbs specialized hands/feet out of nowhere, becomes generic dragon instead
Why? Inteleon gained normal hands but it didn't hinder its mobility

>>58179236
I never understood why people complained when we got duplicates of a particular animal or concept. There are duplicates of animals or concepts irl too. Nobody's claiming a muscovy duck and a wood duck are the same thing. Why not have a mon for each? etc etc. I would readily accept another loch ness monster-inspired design, especially considering lapras only kind of fits the description anyway. Any modern depiction of it would be starkly different.

>>58176912
The point of Hestia's design in Danmachi is for you to feel horny and buy overpriced merchandise of her. The point of Hestia's design in Hades is to be a cool fire goddess you get fire powers from. Neither of them are bad, they fit perfectly for their respective series and if you think the point of all character design should just be "how do we make the sexiest lady possible?" you're genuinely retarded.

>>58174811
Whole lot of midwits seething about a design that takes more than 3 seconds to appreciate. You're the equivalent of manchildren who won't eat anything with a flavour more complex than french fries and chicken nuggets.

>>58175125
We would’ve gotten that in the sprite-based era(when starters were designed to be fantasy creatures instead of gay mascots)

>>58179520
Blaziken is the most anthro starter in the series though.

>>58179547
masquerada and incineroar beat it handily in that department imo.

>>58179569
>meowscarada
Maybe, I admit I just forgot about it.
>Incineroar
lol no, half the reason people complain about it on here is because of its inhuman proportions like the "noodle arms" and "sausage fingers" which are actual features of real tigers with their fuckhuge paws. Meanwhile Blaziken is literally just a man with a chicken head. It has the exact same proportions as a human and even has straight up arms instead of anything resembling wings.

>>58174811
>if I bend my brain into all kinds of weird shapes the skinny fag lizard isn't quite as cringe as everyone else thinks it is
How about making a cool looking spy lizard then instead of excusing cringe bullshit, turbofag?

>>58179938
>having eyes and an iq above room temperature = mental gymnastics
try again

>>58174811
You don't want a pocket monster, you want an elaborate cartoon character. You want Gex

>>58179958
But it is a pocket monster.

>>58179958
>anon:i define what is and isn't a monster - 2025

>>58180071
First time on /vp/? Welcome

>>58174867
You first autist