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Previous: >>58170628

Stop giving me the frog

So is the set mid as expected or are there any surprises?

>>58177518
Celebi's a surprise.

Pretty nice start

They printed so many Sylvally but with extra steps cards this set

>first match
>opponent drops mantyke and Palkia on the bench
>I play first of course because fuck you if you're going to think you'll not play first in this bullshit game
>he plays misty of course and adds 1 extra energy of course
>2nd turn and he already has 4 fucking energy on Palkia
OH YES I LOVE BEING PUNISHED FOR STUPID REASONS BECAUSE I GET TO WIN THE FUCKING DICEROLL AT THE START YES I LOVE IT!!!!!

Loving the immersive,
>>58177544
Everything in this set is too honest. Silvally is if Little Timmy saw the stuff in this set and made a broken version to make his favorite mon look good

Suicune is being overlooked, this card feels pretty deck. On the otherhand raikou feels awful, and I don't see how i'm expected to use entei.

25 packs
3 cursola, 1 mantyle, 1* milotic
that's ALL I got. I am very sad

Do you guys paid money to open these cards right now? I waiting until morning to use my pack glasses.

>>58177544
Altaria seems good enough though

>>58177599
uh yea poorfag

>>58177518
The evolution item is interesting, for example
Donphan ex gets access to Flail, making it swing for up to 150-170 which may be that last resort attack you need to win the game
Poliwrath ex gets access to Call for Family, which helps you setup your backup faster while you're waiting for your third energy
Sylveon ex can use the attacks of any of the 40 Eevees you choose, so it's not longer a brick outside of psychic decks
Bibarel ex can use superfang, yay?
Sweets Relay gets a small consistency boost, it didn't really matter which items you ran in that deck so this is a nice bonus
Xatu can now deal damage (deck is still shit)

You can also cope saying the fat energy attackers can swing earlier by using weaker attacks but imo those are still going to be bad, we're too deep in the powercreep for that

I just watched some top 10000 streamer faggot struggle against Suicune/Palkia while he had both Oricorios on the board. It's crazy how the game is so braindead that these kind of subhumans are allowed to reach that kind of rank because their deck plays for them.

Celebi is much better than I thought it'd be at first glance, 40 damage is nothing to scoff at against a basic, specially if you pair it with some chip damage

>>58177653
I hope you're ready for the game to conveniently place you against people who somehow never use rare candy

Why didn't they just make X-speed the gold card?

>>58177739
Saving that for Shining Reverly 2

Who benefits the most?

>open a 10 pack
>only one ex
>no full arts
>not even any babies

>Only legendary catdog I got is Raikou
T-thanks

OH FUCK YES I LOVE GETTING RED CARDED TURN 1 BECAUSE I PLAY SUICINE, OH FUCK ME GIVE ME MORE RED CARD YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE FUCK YOU

Guys hear me out:Miltank Ultra Beast
One of the ways to counter Miltank is Sabrina or just simply knock her out, so why not pair her with UB who do not care about getting switched and can recover lost energy.

>>58177842
Okay and how are you going to recover that lost energy if the opponent doesn't kill your Miltank?

>>58177846
Miltank gets to scale freely then

>>58177849
Where are you getting the discarded energy from if Miltank only costs 1?

>>58177785
Donphan

>>58177852
I can put more energy in her or start building up a buzzwole in the back

>>58177849
>counter to Miltank is Sabrina
>So I'm going to put an ultra beast on the back for the opponent to Sabrina me

>>58177857
What does Miltank uniquely do in that position that no other Pokemon can?

>>58177785
According to the solo missions AI, Mantyke

>>58177857
Now they're down 1 powerful supporter, and I can just pivot into playing a normal UB game

>>58177859
roll

>>58177859
Miltank demands an answer, unlike other similar early pressure mons like farfetched or Kartana she can survive a couple of hits.

>>58177861
And now that you've wasted at least an energy on Milktank to deal chip damage, now the opponent has his active Pokemon set up and is raping your ultra beast.

I guess Clair will never get a card...

>>58177869
By the time Miltank is doing any serious damage, you've already set up enough to kill it. Either through chip or outright.

>>58177876
Yeah I could, but why would I when I can just Sabrina it, reset it back to 10 damage, and fuck up your ultra beast in the back since you can't use Lusamine.

>>58177878
You can do that, too.

>>58177860
Mantyke cant evolve, what the hell are you talking about?

I've been up for an hour and I've already lost all interest in this set. No good early pulls, so I can't even try out any of the new cards right away. I'm not burning more than 120 hourglasses on a mini set, so now I get the enjoyment of opening nothing but white borders twice a day for the next month.

>>58177882
The joke went over your head.

>>58177882
He's making fun of the AI for being stupid

Tbf Poliwrath look strong

I've been waiting for the FUCKING Johto set since GA and they've completely fucking pissed in my face with this garbage.

>>58177785
EG Galvantula, Rampardos, Melmetal, Exeggutor (both), Magmortar & Electivire, Luxray, Gengar EX, Blissey EX

Tbh unless you're playing a Luxray meme deck I don't see a real use for it.

How's this for a second pack?

Free status move is better than a free energy ramp
They gave it damage so people could use lyra I guess

Regular jumpluff is waaaaay more useful than the ex version

Underwhelming set. I just pray I get the beasts and the babies quick enough.

The evo tool is pretty fucking interesting though.

>>58178078
Memory Light sounds good on paper, but most basics have terrible attacks and stage 2s rely so much on Rare Candy.
If it could use abilities too, then you'd have something.

>someone starts a trade
>they don't have a whislist
>Offer whatever
>they reject
Hurr durr hurr

I'm at 204 packets opened between the new set and the last set. And I have gotten ZERO 2 star cards.
What in the actual fuck is going on?

New set, new trades
7034513352129256

>>58178093
There’s some basics that can energy ramp for stage 1 evos but they are all outdated cards like GA Melmetal. Maybe you can meme with Alolan Exeggutor+Will or something

>>58178127
I guess you could. i always ran Leaf Cape on A-Egg, but 180HP might be overkill.

Wow, Jumpluff mission is actually giving me issues. Shuckle is hard for fighting mons to make a dent on.

celebi/celebi ex deck viable?

The thread sure is dead for a new pack day. Did this game totally fall off?

>>58178149
New pack is pretty ass.

>>58178149
Not really, the set just isn't that great or worth talking about. Plus its a mini set.

>still want FA Lyra
I guess WP will be my only way to get cards from the new set.

>>58178124
Tyrogue for Elekid

>>58178124
>>58178267
I can also do Scizor for Giratina according to your in game wishlist

Do they make auto-play literally retarded on purpose?

I've watched it use Mars when the opponent has 1 card and gives them 3.

It also refuses to use Irada to ever heal water pokemon.

>>58178317
Cool, I can do both.

>>58178323
Unironically yes, they want to force you to play more

>>58177980
>2 shinies
the rainbow raikou is nice as is a full art trainer, shame its a literal who

>>58178094
the trade system is shit, despite the dena dickrider who was trying to claim it was amazing in pervious threads. I stick to trade hub

.....

>>58178443
Isn't this basically just a worse Manaphy?

>>58178466
No it's a better manaphy

>>58178466
It requires no energy, so it's better.

>>58178124
What website are you using to make a "tier" list wishlist? I cant find one up to date. The only one fucking shitty google finds is tiermaker and it hasn't been updated in many sets of Pocket, it seems

>>58178515
https://tiermaker.com/create/pokmon-tcgp-wisdom-of-sea-and-sky---all-cards-881173

>>58178530
Oh great, the retard who made it typoed it "Pokmon" so thats why it doesn't show up on google or the sites own search

>>58178547
I just searched by the pack name.

8424327096975306

>>58178383
I'm blaming the players for not using the trade system, not Dena, are you stupid?

>>58178323
Yes
>stokezard deck for solo missions on auto
>place 2 charmander
>rare candy the benched charmander and evolve Charizard on the bench
>give energy to active charmander
>switch out active charmander for Charizard
>end turn without doing anything
They dumbed down the AI

Am I brewing chat?

>>58178825
no misty?

>>58178784
>They dumbed down the AI
People will just say it's schizo imagination but they really have. The AI was dumb before, but it didn't use to constantly do actively self-sabotaging nonsense shit that makes no sense.

Zangoose is Druddigon with 1 retreat cost that can actually attack. Could be a decent alternative to Komala too
It's fucking annoying in the solo battles since so many of the decks are using it

>>58178890
Druddigon was good because it had 100 HP and existed in a time where moves didn't average out to that much damage.

The game has stopped giving me immersive and I'm upset about it

>>58178900
Druddigon was never good

>>58178910
It was for a brief period of time, before darktina decks realized they didn't need it.

>FAT 2Stage decks are saved!
YAAAY-

>SolGAYleo can now go Stiffen in tandem with Adaman for never dying
BOOOO

>25 packs opened
>No ex
Fuck this game. I open a new expansion, I want new cards

Anyone who could trade with me? Here are my possible trades >>58178754
I especially need an Elemental Switch please.

>>58178961
Do you have Swanna

>>58178968
Yes.
You want the Feathery Cyclone attack having Swanna? Add me, my friend code is on the post >>58178754

>>58178955
oh yeah he can stall funny bird now

>>58178981
Yeah that's the one I need
Added

Anyone have Typlosions to trade? I need two.

>>58178999
Guessing you are YoungPaulieB? I am in the trade window, placed Swanna there and waiting for you now.

>>58179026
No I'm haniwa with the Turtwig pic
You're DIO with the Tyranitar pic right?

>>58178958
>>No ex
But you have two right there :^)

>>58179033
Yeah, my bad. Adding you now. I couldnt know which one you were because there were old friend requests I never accepted and they can't be in order of most recent. Scuffed system.

>>58178961
>I especially need an Elemental Switch please.
Bad luck with wonder picks?

>>58179049
I only got 1 Ele Switch and 0 Squirt Bottle in like 115 packs of the last set opened, maybe around half were Lugia packs.

>>58179057
Elemental switches appear in the free WPs this week.

>>58179062
Well I've gotten zero from those so far and I wanted to play a Raikou deck now since I got Raikou EX four star and rainbow frame cards today.

>>58179043
If you got double Steelix I can also take em for a double Politoed/Elekid or one of each

>>58179089
I do have two Steelix to trade. I'll take 1 Politoed and 1 Elekid please.

>>58179105
Nice
Might as well gimme a Jasmine for Squirtbottle so I can try it out immediately if you still have enough stamina for one last trade after this

>>58179117
Ok

>>58178754
Porygon-Z for Tyrogue and Elekid for Steelix?
Sent a friend request. Slowpoke icon.

>>58179124
Righto, thanks for the trades

>>58178776
the trade system is shit. and the players are retards. both things are true at the same time.

>>58179117
My game crashed during 2nd last trade so I couldnt send you a Thanks for that one

Revealing the Megas early was a mistake, now I just can't bring myself to give a shit about anything else between now and then

luv me beedrill
luv me crobat
luv me talonflame

1 energy 70dmg, simple as

>>58179227
Post brew
What about toucannon

>>58179235
I haven't rly played since shining revelry set but I had a lot of success back then with a beedrill (non ex)/ leafeon deck, I see there are more of these 1eng 70dmg type cards now and rare candy only makes them better.

This is what I have so far for talonflame idk if it's the best but you just wanna deal dmg as efficiently as possible is the idea, there's a lot of cards I don't have.

>>58179227
Jumpluff is decent.

>>58178825
How do you evolve into Omastar?

>>58179301
Genuinely what purpose does this serve

Altaria's not bad
Actually very easy to get it working if you're playing colorless and just stick in 3 random energy types

>>58179367
Silvally is good because it has a trainer card that draws itself.

>wondertrade... i got entei... noice
>first 10 packs... 3 shiny mew
>second 10 packs... nothing

):

>>58179380
I 10 pulled and only got a single Jumpluff ex

>>58179301
he does seem interesting yeah

>>58179380
The fuck is a wondertrade?

>>58179306
I forgot the rare candies like an idiot

>>58179367
Post brew

>>58179421
I just stuck it with WSS Porygon-Z
You could probably play it with other stuff like colorless ex or mix and match with the Baby rampers

this deck is really fun guys.
>why 1 suicune
because i only have 1, but its also nice to not lead with it.

>>58179433
Plz post brew you have to be one of the brewskis

retarded game gave me 5 ex jumpluff and 1 rainbow border, what do you even do with this pokemon.

>first day of new set and none of my friends are even online to auto the solos and trade.
Actually dead game?

>>58179502
Hit and run. Switch it with something that retreats with one energy so you can keep looping it.

>>58179502
u breeze by attack obviously

>>58179517
>>58179514
What would i even pair it with though?

>managed to obtain 120 clocks
>still want FA Lyra
What should I do? pull a 10 on Lugia (from which i already non star rank to up except for Laturn EX) or do it on Suicune?

>>58179522
probably something tanky like this >>58179301 I mean idk if the rest of that deck is good but that concept seems decent although another EX might be a better partner, make them have to KO 2 EX to win.
1eng for 70dmg is really good jumpluff is not a bad card.

>>58179544
nvm I'm dumb I didn't realize shuckle is an EX

>>58179399
wonderpick?? i dont know what the english name is

I am so fucking taumatized that now I need to be 100% sure so i ask you guys this: Is the OC human in the new set a girl or a trap?

>>58179573
Anon...

Poli would actually be viable if the devs didn't chicken out and made the attack put a Poliwhirl instead of a Poliwag onto the bench.

>>58179616
This is just a Weedle clone

>>58179596
Anon, I have been tricked so many times that I am traumatizated.

>>58179616
I think they know better than to allow a +80 Poliwrath.

>>58179629
don't worry anon she has a penis

>>58179648
Deep in her right now?
Filling her womb with semen?

>>58179733
yes... but also attached to her

any interesting ideas for the new mismagius? it's 1eng for 90dmg... although they can just swap out.

>>58179799
Hypno Mismagius

>>58179544
>>58179522
I was thinking like rocky helmet pyukumuku x2
Nobody wants to touch that
And then run water energy for suicune? Switch into him to end your turn with a bonus draw or something

For those wondering
Yes Celebi can one shot stoke card with Red
https://x.com/Game8_pokepoke/status/1961010145615626511?t=nMs3Va4J6deDsgqDeLv_vA&s=19

poliwrath ex and toad is steamrolling

>>58179824
Noice.

>>58179502
I'm going to a mixed set with 3d jumpluff, jumpluff ex and snorlax +Barry for balloonboi combo

>>58179845
>jumplax

>>58179799
Is there anything that benefits from the opponent switching?

I opened 50 packs and all I got was 1 of each dog and 1 Jumpluff.

>>58179861
There was an Umbreon that dealt more damage if the opponent switched, I think?

>>58179824
will mistah merriku be meta once more?

>>58179876
You mean umbreon ex? It's ability is cyrus

>>58179894
Probably not, the evolved Mon goes back to the hand. If Charmander has a cape, like they usually do, celebi can't one shot it and it dies the next turn

>>58179632
>if your opponent sets up for 4+ turns and draws 8 specific Pokemon on curve they hit you for maybe as much as an EX

The horror

>>58179861
looks like there's nothing. so I guess you'd have to make a meme trapper deck with sayble.

Anyone running miltank/whitney? I'm going to try rampardos variation that dares opp to switch him out. I'll call it milktruck.

What are the latest BREWS so far my BREWSKIS

>>58179925
I'm using miltank + Darkrai rn and it's doing alright

>>58179925
That sounds like a pretty good strategy, unless they try to Sabrina you during the turn you have a fossil on the bench.

thousands of packs since launch, first godpack.. my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

>>58179933
Dark cow replacing Dark Tina would be so funny that’s what I immediately thought of too

>>58179946
Kino pack

>>58177544
Yeah, at least Dugtrio has the advantage of being 1 energy and pairing with Hiker, but most every other conditionally-high-damage Stage 1s are just "why didn't you just splice Silvally in there instead?"-tier.

>>58179925
I feel like Sylvally is still better for Rampardos... Fossils need a lot of deck thinning, you get to make use of that spare energy, and it's just more reliable

>>58179946
It's a pretty godpack at least, and Suicune should be decent

>>58179872
I wish I had any Jumpluff, I want to try cooking Jumpluff decks but I still haven't even gotten regular Jumpluff from last set, let alone EX.

The universe loves to mock me...

Shines legit make me mad

>Mantyke
>Zeraora
>GA Dragonite
Would it werk?

>>58180039
Try it and tell us

Beginnings of a Mismagius deck. Idea is basically that she slows your opponent down since they're forced to switch or take 90. If they take out Mismagius you threaten 80dmg from the bird. I like the idea of a big EX attacker at the end, something you can build up on the bench but idk if Arceus is the best choice or not.

>>58180049
we need sneaky pebbles

>>58180052
for real

>Entei is shit for Incineroar
I'm going back to babies. I'm sure you can make new strong decks with this new set but I only care about my favorite Pokemons

>>58180039
How would you do it?
And what is Zeraora doing for you?
>2x Mantyke
>2x GA Dratini
>1x GA Dragonair
>2x GA Dragonite
>2x Rare Candy
>2x Pokéball
>2x Professor's Research
>2x Pokémon Communication
>1x Elemental Switch
>2x X Speed
>1x Sabrina or other swap supporter
>1x Red or Giovanni
>Lightning energy only
Steps:
>Pray you get Manytke and Dratini out turn 1
>Elemental Switch in case you need it
>Ideally Mantyke for two turns on Dratini and Rare Candy to buff Dragonite
It's funny if/when it works.
Which I guess is this whole shitty game lmao.

>>58179824
Good

Fuck CelebiEX

>>58179824
Unfathomably based

>>58179824
Post brew

Memory light is pretty based

>nab FA Lillie once from WPs
>miss every FA trainer in WPs from thereon out
>the only FAs and rainbow WPs I can nab are stuff like picrel
Is this good or bad luck?

>>58180225
What are other applications of this

>>58180225
Post donphan brew

>>58180255
Nothing, basic and stage 1 pokemon have terrible attacks usually

>>58180246
I don't even fucking see FA trainers ever and i obsessively checked WP throughout the day.

>>58180260
Surely there are some exceptions

>>58180265
Honestly same
I've never even witnessed a God pack either in wp or in pulling

And I'm a whale

>>58180255
Torterra is one of the few skip a turn attackers whose wording allows it to still attack the next turn, as long as it isn't Frenzy Plant so it has access to Grotle's 60 attack

>>58180259
I'm a huge fan of double communication in this style of deck. Greatly increases the consistency.
Potion over PCL so you dont have to choose between drawing and healing
red card and silver are the flex spots

Raikou has horribly nerfed stats, but i still see it working in a magnezone oricorio deck. Also, silvally + altaria seems like a good combo. Just a relentless combo of 100 damage.

>>58180296
I've noticed red card is basically only present when people don't know what else to put in the deck

>>58180312
I use red card because i hate charizard and for the rare combo with silver, but its easy to justify cutting it for something like sabrina.

>>58180255
>>58177615

waaiiitt… hoooood on..

Let's go gambling!

>>58180332
Cat vros we are so back

>>58180357
Does this work with Will

>>58180370
No

>>58180370
Read the card

>>58180370
Give it a try and report back lol

>>58180225
Wait so if you Candy up that skipped evo WON'T count for Memory Light?

Wow, they actually made a legitimate buff towards primarily 1Stage Evo mons. What a time to be alive

>>58180390
Celebi also fucks with rare candy usage, if you evolve with it and have no middle stage then you won't be able to evolve into 2nd stage again (unless you use another rare candy of course)

I'm starting to wish that this game just had the memory light function built into the mechanics, it only *really* opens up like 4 or 5 cards for new deck strats but it's just more fun to have the added layer of options. Oh well, I guess they shouldn't stray too far from the regular TCG format.

>>58180404
I need a brew with celebi

So what're the best new cards so far? As f2p I just want to know what I should be going for in WP.

Does my boy have any relevance still

>>58180255
It changes your 3/4 energy stage 2 mon from a dead turn to chip damage.
Or has other silly uses like
>Switching out a damaged Gyarados, Gardevoir/Gallade, Solgaleo/Lunala, Yanmega, or Alakazam
>Setting poison as a Scoliopede.
>Energy accel as Melmetal, Exeggutor, Grumpig, Alolan Ninetales,
>Sweets Relay as Vanilluxe, Alcremie, or Cherrim to keep building Overload

>>58180424
Nah. He needs Lucarios, and there's just way better Lucario candidates now. Not worthless bad but definitely not relevant.

>>58180332
deck list?
and why would meow be back?

>>58180442
I don't get it