Thread 58184161

Dying early edition.


>New fire support

>Firebreather - Trainer - Supporter
Search your deck for up to 7 Basic [R] Energy cards and put them into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.

>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>58166138

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA

>>58184161 (OP)
Mega Venusaur bros..... This can't be happening. I was already getting full art versions of his evo line in anticipation FUCK

>>58184172
It's always been charizard's franchise. They'll make sure mega blastoise is bad against it too

>after 8 years a regional finally comes back to Seattle
About fucking time, fuck portland

>>58184270
Why do you even want to go to a regional? You'll be spending money just to play a glorified coin toss. Like those faggots who travel countries just yo get bricked by their deck lmao.

>>58184283
>anti-prize card
>doesn't play IRL
>sits in his moms basement
Go outside and touch some grass or you'll die like that fat ass with 15+ cats, lmao

>>58184476
And ching chong ping pong to you too young lady.

Hi. I’m that guy from a few threads back who asked for deck building advice. I’ve played in several locals over the past month or so and stopped using that deck after the first local. Never won-won a match but I’ve come close a few times in recent ones and even got a “Bye!” from the computer rounding incorrectly.

Current decks:
>Team Rocket’s Tyrannitar/Persian EX (Guest staring the version of the cactus that hurts you every time you attack it. Because I enjoy cockblocking half the meta.)
>Misty’s Lugia EX(No Misty’s Psyduck, that card is shit.)
>Tera Sylvion/Tera Glaceon/Budew/That normal turtle that lets you search for any energy who’s name I forget.

>>58184921
Fucking grim.
Like Rocket Mewtwo is bad enough yet you decide to run an even shitier version of the deck kek, the rest is plain janksloppa. If you want to cockblock the meta at least run Milotic.

>>58184488
Free dark energy and free 20damage for your monkey

>>58184921
>Tera Sylvion/Tera Glaceon
If you want a good Eeveelution deck, look into Flareon.

what am I pulling?

How do I beat a Garchomp EX deck? It's almost impossible to prevent the setup and then it just stacks damage and spiritomb can kill at any moment after that, it's fucked

>>58188334
it depends on what deck you're using. what have you been playing?

>>58188547
Gardevoir, no jellicent

>>58188586
Ive always beaten the deck as garde with a charmed munkidori and mind bending the active while adrena braining everything else. there might be other ways to beat it because garchamp isn't very strong right now but this strategy has been working for me.

>>58188627
But the problem is that when Garchomp EX sets up what is the play here? Even a boss' orders with many counters, spiritomb can just kill gard or any EX

>>58188674
just avoid putting too much damage on their bench. spiritomb can't one shot a 160 hp munkidori unless theres 90 damage on their bench which is more than enough leeway to have. once their spiritomb is confused they either need to find switch, retreat, or flip heads. all options can buy you a turn or stop them from taking out garde. you can also see if tm devo works since some garde builds are adding it now even if they dont play the jelly

>>58188812
But at the same time Garchomp can just stack damage constantly, it's a tough matchup and I have 3 doris

>>58188812
>90 damage
sorry I meant 80.

>>58188823
garchomp needs to discard all it's energy to do any real damage, roserade buff included, because every attacker besides clefairy resists fighting and it's not like they have the tools to keep spitomb in play. garchomp can be a nuisance. but garde is a way more annoying deck to deal with as garchomp considering you start to lose as soon as you attack into something you can't one shot. I only played against it a few times but to me it seems more garde favored. check youtube for any garde/chomp matches to get more knowledge on how to approach it.

>>58188674
You one shot it with a charmed drifloon. If it has the cynthia tool that gives out hp and then he retreats you snipe it out with scream tail. At the end of the day it is a race to setup for you both.
Alternatively just run devolution.

>>58188586
>>58188674

the matchup is trivial with scream tail, you just roaring scream until he's got no roserade's left and then they cannot one shot gardevoir ever

remember that spiritomb does not hit for weakness, it's not very scary in the matchup

>>58188343
vmax were really complex cards with a lot of strategy to them

Is anyone playing the trainer challenge format?
It has lot's of mulligans and creative recipes.

>>58190388
The trainer trials? Ive only played it a few times but the deck building it really fun

>>58190388
It'a for shitters

>>58184161 (OP)
card OP? nice

>>58191027
you shutting the fuck up? nicer

If you were going to a cash prize event and your choices were Gardevoir or Dragapult, which would you take? What would give you the best chances of winning?

I wanna play this game. How much time per week do you spend on this game? I already have other hobbies and i want to be at least good enough in this game to win a few games at locals every other week

>>58191649
Dragapult as it is easier to play

>>58191708
About 5 hours per week, I just attend my local league every saturday. One hour for deck prep, one hour commute both ways, 3 hour tournament.

>>58191649
>which would you take?
whichever one I had the most practice with or whichever one I enjoyed playing the most. garde and pult are both insanely strong if piloted well so winning with either of them depends on your skill.

What's going on in here?

>>58193659
Error code 10099

Is typhlosion the only playable single prize deck?
I love single prizes but I hate typhlosion...

>>58193997
Baby Moon/Dudunsparce is popping back up. It's alright.

>>58193997
yesterday I went to a fun tournament (meta decks banned) and saw a handful of nice single-prize decks
>kingambit
>aegislash
>festival apples
>ancient box without the ex (this guy fucking milled me with tusk in the last turn)
>rocket's porygon
>united wings

>>58193997
Typhlosion is not playable.

>>58193997
Festival is alright and slowking is fun, nobody respects bench sniping to run shaymin atm

>>58194199
>pussy snowflake tournament

>>58194917
yeah pretty much

>>58194625
It totally is, you just need 3 cindaquil turn 1 and a typhlosion + 3 or more ethans in the discard turn 2

>>58195451
>as long as everything goes perfectly according to plan it's playable
great deck

>>58195451
>>58195757
>Haha! I beat Gholdengo and Crustle! Now what?!

>>58193997
typhlosion loses on setup half of the time

>>58195814
>gardevoir manages to lose to typhlosion 40% of the time
grim

>>58195977
You're reading it wrong. Gardevoir beats Typhlosion 60% of the time.

>want to learn how to play because I enjoy playing physical tcgs
>hate set rotations
Eugh.

>>58196771
pick up regidrago v star and play expanded

>>58195977
Gardevoir wins by ohkoing 2 prizers with 1 prizers. if they have to trade 1:1 they're at a disadvantage since they're slower

Terapagos should have won instead of Gardecringe

>>58196771
doesn't every TCG do set rotations of sorts?

>>58196771
>Eugh.
Don't like it? Stick to your card game and stay there!

>Redeem the last few tiers of the battlepass
>1300 cards
>Scroll down to the converted dupes
>6 FA hydreigon-ex
>4 FA zekrom-ex
>4 FA meloetta-ex
>5 FA Hilda
>2 SIR Hilda
And lesser amounts of a bunch of others. The new battlepass system is pretty good for filling out a collection.

>>58199584
It's good but holy does it feel like shit if you miss one of the FA/SIR you want

>Only got 1 FA brock last battlepass
>Using 2 is core in some decks
>Can't craft him for months still

>>58199234
Our only eternal format gets no support

>>58199740
pokemon just doesn't reprint older sets like the others do, so supporting expanded is a lost cause. the amount of expanded cards are finite and will be bought up if expanded gets supported again

I for one am not looking forward to a meta where decks have a near 100% winrate against each other because 3 prizes are too much. So far, not a single mega has been good enough to overcome weakness unlike LucMetal or Urshifu VMax. Worse, if they ever print a mega that is, it'll probably be an insufferable tier 0.

ex is only an engaging mechanic when it utilizes both single and multi-prizers of a pokemon, like gardevoir ex and shining arcana gardevoir, or gardevoir ex and mega gardevoir

>>58200437
That's the benefit they could do with ex's but don't.
>Mon gets a good ex
>Never gets a good 1 prizer to go with it

>Mon gets a good 1 prizer
>Never gets a good ex
>Let alone an ex at all
Baxcalibur was a prime candidate for this but it literally never got a 2nd card printed. You could've run a mono baxcalibur deck powering up your own ex

Guys when do I sell my G decks? Before December right ?

Gholdengo is still expensive atm but somehow raging bolt has gone down

Also, what the fuck why is eevee still expensive it’s still at $7-$8 a card and eevee ex $5-6 I thought the prize versions would lower these cards the

>>58200512
I miss chien pao so much. It was degenerate but it was a lot fun to play and rewarding at times. I was hoping for a irida reprint of some kind since water usually get good cards in between sets

the continued coronation of Gardevoir

>>58201119
Just play raging bolt.

Next rotation will be interesting as most of the meta will rotate out, pretty much only pult, grimm and eevee will remain. We might see a couple decks resurge to fill the void of power if the next couple sets aren't completely busted, fortunately megaevolutions seem pretty underwhelming as the only playable mega from the next set is gardevoir and I have my doubts.

>>58200437
mega gardevoir/mega gallade synergy would be kino

>>58201980
>fortunately megaevolutions seem pretty underwhelming as the only playable mega from the next set is gardevoir and I have my doubts.
Unfortunately, the following set will revolve around whether your deck can ohko charizard or deny its evolutions before they ohko you

>>58202300
>Raging bolt but stage 2 and 3 prizes without owls

Eh, it's alright, far from tier 0 from what we have seen.

>>58201113
>I thought the prize versions would lower these cards
anon...

>>58201113
>thought the prize versions would lower these cards the
Why would you ever think that?

This deck looks extremely fun.
>4/4 Toxtricity
>BW Hydreigon ex
>Mega Gengar ex
>Grimmsnarl ex
>Tyranitar
>Grimmsnarl
>Pecharunt + Mochi
>4 Munkidoris
I doubt it'll be good but with Academy at Night you should be able to pretty consistently get guys out.

>>58203226
Seems like jankslop to me.

>>58202357
360hp is a lot to get through. You could also run owls in megazard if you need easy access to Wally for denying 2hkos. Although making that play post-rotation would require some more aggressive energy recovery like max rod.

>>58203226
zero draw gg.. can't even use supporter for it either..

POCKET IS MORE POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL THAN THIS NERDY CASH GRAB CARD GAME.

YOU ARE ALL HANGING ON TO A DYING GAME

ENERGY CARDS ARE FUCKING STUPID

YES I KNOW YOU ARE MAD

anyone care to have these? cause I don't.
but if you use one, at least show me what what you pull.

>>58205575
I picked the top one, and pulled a full-art Wooloo. Thank you!

sir another charcadet print has hit the pokemon tcg

>>58205965
nice and also cute, thanks for reporting back

>>58206007
baxcalibur will get a 2nd card one day..

>>58206007
what the hell is that effect on it
why would you upscale it

sheep sleeves

WOOLOOFLARE

>GLCman releases an hour long documentary about one of his buddies who was banned from the tcg for being a piece of shit
>it reveals that he's unbanned
>a girl immediately drops some DMs she got as a kid from him where he reveals that he's a pedo
>documentary gets deleted

lol

god this meta is so boring and it doesn't seem like mega evolutions changes it either

>>58207146
banned man used to play at a shop near my house before my time. everybody had a story about him, he seemed like a piece of shit

>>58207146
who's the pedo? is it that fat guy glcman was buddies with?

>>58207500

the guy the documentary was trying to redeem

WHATS THE POINT IN JOLTIK BOX IF I PRIZE ALL 3 JOLTIKS

>>58207589
skill issue

>>58203226
>No Zoroark for draw

>>58207500
Gino Lombardi
https://x.com/summerplesko/status/1963077577301430692
https://x.com/summerplesko/status/1963258712560111826
https://x.com/enjoifriend/status/1963302602742841415

>>58207696
who fucking cares

I have no use for these tcg live codes so here /vp/ you can have them.

>>58207146
>a girl immediately drops some DMs she got as a kid from him where he reveals that he's a pedo
Sauce?

I’ve been enjoying pocket so I was gonna try the desktop but it keeps saying the email is invalid??
Apparently this is a common issue lmao

>>58207785
smooth

I’m curious what was the absolute best meta / format in the entirety of the TCG

>>58208935
Best in what way? Base to fossil will probably always have players

>>58207785
Hahaha wtf imagine getting canceled over something like that from a decade ago.
>>58208862
And criminal...

>>58208977
*sick bass*

>>58208762
yeah I was constantly trying different emails or different browsers when I made my account. its a very annoying process

>>58207146
Feels pretty bad for Andrew here. Makes a decent but flawed documentary and the >girlpower squad immediately went for his neck because he didn't know the documentary's subject DM'd a 17 year old 10 years ago

>>58210166
It's something watching all the big names and randoms alike asskiss the girl and become her personal pitchfork mob over an inappropriate sex joke from a decade ago. The way the community acts like forgiveness is absolutely never an option and that you should keep a running blacklist of everyone you're supposed to hate in order to be considered a "good person" is just as disgusting.

>>58210298
>dude straight up lies about his involvement in multiple things over the course of a 50 minute documentary
>girl comes out with that DM
>he literally denies doing that too, probably having forgot he did it given that he’s a druggy piece of shit

I have no idea why anyone would give him the benefit of the doubt or defend him in any capacity. If he’s rehabilitated, that’s cool. Wouldn’t shed a tear if he’s banned again.

>>58208762
could try a proxy or vpn while making an acc? i know some people here had issues and someone managed to resolve it in the end somehow

Bomb Dragapult or the bombless Toedscruel version?

>>58210501
Neither? Just play regular pultnoir or pultzard if you feel ballsy.

>>58207146
What's funny is that it only took a day for everyone to find out that he's still a drugged up schizo, just pretending to be a Christfag now. If le ebin tricky man didn't suck his cock so hard with that content nobody would even have cared about him, but now it's outed he's a creep and pedo so it's over for him.

Imagine putting months of money and effort into rehabilitating some literal who degenerate you like and whoops, he lied about everything and didn't bring up sexting girls, leading to your work getting deleted in less than 24 hours after posting.

feeling a little burned out after trying to make typhlosion work for a while
mememega also whack
Is there any hope for grass in the next set?

>>58208557
Never understood how an aid fish evolves into an octopus artillery

>>58210902
>Is there any hope for grass in the next set?
Yes, but for only one set before fire gets its next round of support.
Mega Venusaur is tanky.
Hydrapple hits for big damage.

>>58210943
Is that once per mon or can i max rod/lanas aid a stage2 in one go with turn 2?

>>58210959
You can go basic to stage 2 in a single turn.

>>58210959
It can't be turn 1 (whether you're going first/second)
After that turn 1, you can just place any grass pokemon and insta evolve it as much as you want. Dragapult gust killed your rabsca? Just recover and re-evolve it instantly

>>58210943
>Grassfags have exactly 1.5 to play with their new toy
Grim

>Meanwhile water support

>New charizard is weak to water so they wont print anything good

>>58211219

let me guess, you "need" more?

>>58211238
dino battle

>>58184445
nobody mentioned prize cards you fucking retard

>>58210501
If by bombs you mean dusknoir then I personally like to play dragapult dusknoir more than pure pult. toedscruel is pretty good against dengo which can be tough for any pult lists that don't use zard. pure pult is more consistent than pultnoir as well. but pure pult has the worst garde match up out of the 3 most popular pult variants. toedscruel helps a bit with garde too or with any deck that mainly plays night stretcher for recovery but they can just start adding in a super rod and the toed might end up being a waste of a bench space. still it's definitely cool to see toed pop up in pult lists again. I've always liked it's ability after playing pult thorns.
>>58210582
I read that GLCman is a christian himself which would explain why he went through all the trouble to put the "reformed" christian in the spotlight. even though fame is the last thing an addict should have.

>>58211260
>6 days later

>>58211238
>no sada or bax post rotation
its going to make this bulk look like bulk of bulk

>>58211395
>I purposely took 5 prizes and now I lost. How could this be happening to me?

>>58211438
>I tried to play the game, I guess I deserve to lose.

>>58211395
Radiant zard my beloved....oh how I missed you.

>>58212053
No begone
t. metal and grass pokemon who couldn't exist

>>58211395
I fucking love this card.

Literally saved me from 1-1/1-2 prize matches.

However it's also a shitty card because of its retreat cost and basically nets your opponent a free win if you somehow were able to pull it early into the game or as your only Pokemon.

TIL nothing has water resistance ever since XY era

>>58212575
>Nothing has fire resistance since HGSS era
>Literally EVERYTHING metal has grass resistance
Not subtle in what types they shill

>>58212581
they standardized these types of things long ago

>>58214744
Gen 8 isn't that long ago. They were still making special exceptions back in 2017 (although weaknesses are less relevant in a discussion about resistances).

>>58214998
nigga that's almost a decade

>>58212581
>yanma and yanmega are the only grass types not weak to fire
sad, but was useful in 2 matches before

>>58216333
>it's over

bump

take me back

>>58218865
Archie blastoise was so fun. Exodiaing your hand down to combo it out was peak gameplay. Gameplay isn't that indepth anymore

>>58219387
I liked the Arceus Beedrill deck for the few weeks when it was good.

>>58219536
That's a throwback too. Would love to see another supporter similar to those get reprinted again. Not sure what type/tag it would need to be though.

Digimon TCG died where I live, thinking of getting into Pokemon now, is it fun?

>>58219723
In a general sense it's fun but the current meta's kinda ass and decks all feel kinda samey since decks are like 80% identical staples and utilites to search out the 10% of your deck that matters

>>58219846
As a new player the meta probably wont bother him, since it'll all be new.
It's just boring for us existing players since it hasn't changed in a couple of expansions now

I haven't played in a few months. Why did the Crispin/Sparkling Crystal version of Dragapult fall off in favor of the current Luminous Energy version? The new one feels so slow.

>>58219918
because the retards at tpci printed budew

>>58219918
They greed by item locking and slow attaching each turn
You completely eat shit tho if your opponent kills your mon with energy on. You can never build up a dragapult in 1 turn so you're weak to being gust spammed

question: the video games have had fan mad sims dating back decades now, but has the tcg ever had one
Im just curious about the earlier history of the tcg in general

>>58219595
we're probably gonna have to wait until gen 10's first DLC for that

>>58219918
>Crispin/Sparkling Crystal version of Dragapult
That sounds like fun. Any list I could base off?

>>58221338
KINO

>>58221338
Sounds fun but ultimately unviable.
I'll play it nonetheless.

>>58221338

>could have a max belt and giant cape permanently affixed to it and it'd still be garbage

>>58221731
it can't though

>>58221819

thanks buddy but I knew that

>>58221866
I don't think you did buddy, but I'm glad I could share some knowledge with u

>>58219595
the Grimsley one coming in Phantasmal Flames is pretty close. Need to use night academy to stack the dark pokemon from hand to get it out

>>58222124
The grimsley is just a pocket tier rng card. The others you had to sequence correctly to get your hand down correctly, and the draw after really helped as well. It felt skilful even if it was sometimes an obvious order..

>nothing ever changes
Grim. How many sets is it going to take before we get new decks?

>>58184161 (OP)
>Playing a deck where Stage 1s are essential (Volcanion ex + Magmortar)
>Pull my Hyper Aroma first turn
>"Heh... I will use my Hyper Aroma then use the Perrin supporter to swap them for basics!"
>Use Hyper Aroma
>Fail to search
>Concede the game

I LOVE PRIZE CARDS I LOVE PRIZE CARDS I LOVE PRIZE CARDS

>>58222889
Skill issue
git gud
fucktard lmao

>>58222889
Hyper aroma into perrin is certainly a combo

>>58223123
Yeah, it's especially good since I have no basics that can be called with Poffin so Perrin is really good for setup. I have Clavell as well for setup, there's a lot of good setup supporters that don't see much use.
>>58222980
5 Stage 1 Pokemon in my deck, 4 of them in Prize cards... I'll try to play better next time, then!

>>58223146
>there's a lot of good setup supporters that don't see much use.
makes me miss Sonia, Adventurer's Discovery and the like

>>58222616
Probably with mega zard x. Most these can't deal with that much HP and can get bullied by wally. While it ohkos everything back with ease

>>58223160

basically none of them need to, oricorio has 190 hp

>>58222616
Alakazam as an engine or main attacker?

>>58223166
Dragapult eventually can't keep up in resources having them ohko in return and dengo gets fried by chi-yu or any 1 prize fire attacker they wanna runl. Gardy beats it ofc, raging bolt might struggle with enough gust. It'll at least shake up the meta a bit i hope
Gengar seems to be doing that also, spamming 1 prize grimm/zards is a headache for a lot of decks and 350 gust is in the range that dengo struggles hitting

What are the two best League Battle Decks to grab for a returning player right now? My LGS is quite well stocked, they have Gardevoir, Charizard and Dragapult available. Me and my friend want to jump back into local league after over a year of not playing without breaking the bank. Which two decks would give us the most decent start without too many extra purchases required?

>>58223929
Dragapult for sure is the best
Charizards is good but it wont last as long. Charizard, gardy and other battledecks like miraidon rotate around April next year, while dragapult one is practically untouched to rotation.

If you're just getting into it again charizard will be fine too, much like dragapults it's pretty much a competitive list pre-built, you'd just need to change a few changes. I'm sure there's upgrade guides around for them.

What the fuck were they thinking? Does this deck have any redeeming value?

>>58223929
>without breaking the bank
Dragapult and Charizard as you would have to get a secret box for the gardy one.

>>58224209
It will be meta after rotation, mark my words.

>>58224392
>280 damage cap when they were planning to release 360+ HP megas doing 300+ damage
the designers felt evil when designing mewtwo lolol

>>58224641
I still don't get why the fuck did they gave him that stupid 2 energy limit PLUS such energy having to be benched. Like wtf were they thinking?

>>58224674
>Can't discard off active
>Has to require 4 rocket pokemon in play
>Capped damage amount
If it could discard off itself before being knocked out like raging bolt doees it would be decent till megas existed. but all 3 of those just killed any hope of it being worthwhile

>>58224799
Oh and needing 3 energy itself anyway lmao why the fuck do you need an energy switch + special enerrgy combo just to power up your raging bolt/gholdengo

I wish we had a decent free attacker that wasn't a 30HP baby. Elekid and Pichu are nice, but they're free kills for Munkidori.

>>58224866
Girmm/charizard self accelerate so practically they're free

Honestly we are in dire need of a supportmon that restricts damage counter placement.

>>58224910
People will keep begging for a basic that blocks damage counters but ultimately it wont get used, just look at jirachi blocking sableye. Literally nobody bothered with it since it's too niche

Best way to cuck munki would be printing more ability locking cards, but with so much item lock in the format as well I don't think that'll happen.

>>58224951
Yet shaymin does see plenty of play, curious. When 60% of the meta uses munkidori, Dragapult and duskboir you know something like that would be useful.

>>58224981
Shaymin doesn't though, not a single deck in top 32 used shaymin in worlds
https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/500
There's no spread damage to warrant it, even in JP not every deck runs psyduck despite dusknoir being core to dragapult and charizard.
Even if a supportmon is good if they're too niche nobody will bother still, they just hope the deck fears the supportmon enough to not play spread/dusknoir/lost box. Same happened with mew vmax, nobody ran spiritomb since they thought mew would stop being played due to it existing, so it remained uncontested, same with jirachi and sableye.

>>58225078
I'm retarded ignore the shaymin comment lmao. Still the rest is valid

You got your neo upper energy for cheap, right /tcg/?

>>58225097
>it's $12 now
I bought mine for $2 when Dragapult first came out.

>>58225097
I wonder how high secret box will go because they refuse to reprint it

>>58224392
doesn't hit for enough considering megas
and it's annoying to play
even with psychic patch, you may often miss energy into mewtwo
boss was reprinted, killing off giovanni could have been a point for the deck

>>58225097
>>58225209
how do you view these charts for price tracking?

>>58225361
https://limitlesstcg.com/cards/TEF/162