Thread 58186586

Post Mays, Harukas, Sapphires, and her Pokémon too!

May OC:
>https://pastebin.com/EH8hZtEq

May Identification Guide (in progress):
>https://rentry.co/vp-mg-may-ID-guide

OC Artwork Gallery:
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-OC-Art

OC Fanfiction Library:
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-OC-Fanfic

/mg/ Anon's Hoenn Anime Episodes Recap (in progress):
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-Anime-Recap

Game Resources/Assets Collection:
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-game-resources

Sapphire Birch page:
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-sapphire-birch

Image Edit Gallery:
>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-image-edits

Previous: >>58165628

>>58180956

Current /mg/ drawfag project: drawing Mays in all Pokemon types! Entries accepted for types that haven't been covered yet. No deadline.

Also looking for Dragon type anon to share the front drawing since the link they provided is dead >>58154069

>>58186688
Ahh, catbox base was being fucky then
https://files.catbox.moe/l2cox5.png
Here ya go!

>>58186586 (OP)
This just makes it sound like you cooked May into a pie like Hansel and Gretel

>>58186697
Very nice. Updated!

Previous >>58186688

>>58186586 (OP)
I want to fill May's pie with cream.

>>58186692
early investment!

>>58186905
Colored backgrounds, based

>>58187285
>>58187313
That was amazing pics and perfect big milkfilled tits

>>58187407
Yup. Also filled with hope and dreams. May is the perfect thicc pokegirl.

>>58184753
https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1076658877700005888
Got a bit confused with the Kansai one but it's him responding to a fan's headcanon that Ruby taught himself to suppress his own Kansai accent (think like how Bill speaks). But Yamamoto says Norman would just speak back to Ruby in a really rough accent.

I'll find the other one where he was planned to speak like a delinquent. Yamamoto does say he actually wrote Norman's dialogue, because Kusaka would often just use "...", and while Yamamoto was with GF in not liking the Special characterisation, he understood Kusaka's vision and would recommend dialogue.

There are some interesting tweets too, like he wasn't shitposting about the swimmer being important in RS, he and the side characters represent a degree of normalcy and everyday life the duo shut themselves out of by acting out pre character-development.

The account is a treasure trove of stuff obviously. The most interesting were the voice headcanons Yamamoto has. He says Ruby would have the same seiyuu throughout.

>>58187539
>The account is a treasure trove of stuff obviously.
Daily reminder to backup precious internet sources that could be deleted at any moment.

I've noticed a massive increase in Shuuharu art and comics lately, did anything specific happen?

>>58187749
No idea, but that's cute!

>>58186894
>>58188128
>>58188352
Cute

>>58187749
Didn't they have their day recently?

>>58186586 (OP)
It's always May o'clock somewhere!

>>58189130
>>58189955
Would you look at the time!

May and Brendan's house!

>>58189955
What about half-past May?

>>58187539
>Ruby accent headcanons
The Goldenrod accent conundrum occupies the same space as Sapphire's mom in my head, as in Kusaka clearly didn't think through all the contradictions. So I find it hard to care that much. But if Ruby did have an accent like Bill's (or even worse if Norman had an accent and Ruby got the same one), then Ruby suppressing it/overcompensating by constantly using English catchphrases, only to later call Sapphire's natural accent "weird" would be another perfect example of projection.

So much of the RS arc is just Ruby and Sapphire projecting their own baggage onto each other. The main irony obviously being Ruby saying Sapphire looks terrible, when he himself had a literal physical disfigurement he was covering up. But there's a dozen other examples of similar projections between them.

>he understood Kusaka's vision
Glad Yamamoto trusted Kusaka and left most of the writing to the writer, since canon Norman is based. Part of what made Pokespe stand out was the writer and artist being 2 different people so Kusaka and Mato/Yamamoto could just focus on what they're better at. Many Pokemangas made by solo mangakas would have nice artwork, but writing that at best seems copied from a story structure manual. Not even standard hero's journey shit, it'd be even more basic. Or the inverse where I like the story of the Pokemon DP Adventure manga by Shigekatsu Ihara but hate the artwork. Though other mangakas usually didn't get the luxury of having so many chapters to work on like Kusaka did.

>>58190900
>he and the side characters represent a degree of normalcy and everyday life the duo shut themselves out of by acting out pre character-development
Yamamoto has a point there I guess. A main theme of RS arc is the individual's relationship to society, Ruby/Sapphire being the weird individuals and the cast they interact with being the rest of society. The main difference was Ruby treating nearly everyone like shit unless he can beg them for contest related validation, his mild persecution complex used as an excuse to ignore anyone asking for help (a bit like a Tumblr kid). Meanwhile Sapphire could be a rude brat too, but she was more like an unmedicated ADHD retard and didn't have Ruby's self pitying mindset, so she always helped strangers without asking for anything in return. By volume 18 they've both racked up enough karma for Sapphire to befriend all the gym leaders and basically get adopted by Winona to assist the PokeGovernment (embraced by society), while Ruby gets ignored and treated like a mentally unstable nuisance by Wallace and his hoes (rejected by society).

After the RS arc, you mainly have Emerald as a counterweight to "confirm" that Ruby/Sapphire are insane freaks, even after character development and in context of their universe's society (where many other trainers are a bit quirky themselves). Either Kusaka/Yamamoto once even tweeted that Emerald had a tsukkomi relationship with R/S for that purpose. But as for the swimmer OC desu I thought he was creepy and annoying. If the story needed more non freaks to focus on, it could've followed Wally's subplot more desu.

>>58190908
>Ruby would have the same seiyuu throughout
Many fans think Ruby would be voiced by a female seiyuu doing a young male voice, who would naturally be able to voice him as a younger high pitched kid, easier than a male seiyuu could. JP fan videos on Niconico also give Ruby female seiyuus though most male dex holders seem to be voiced by girls in fan projects anyway (Iberico/イベリ子's voice for Gold is my favorite, she's been voicing him for 15 years now). Though for an English dubbed Ruby, I've seen Todd Haberkorn brought up as a template.

>>58187634
>backup precious internet sources
Many tweets are long gone anyway, Yamamoto has actually deleted many of his past doodles for unknown reasons. Navigating Twitter archives is also a nightmare so I'm too lazy to do it. Related, here's a deleted Yamamoto doodle of Ruby proposing to Sapphire, Yamamoto commenting that he himself wasn't a "real person" before he married his own wife. Which is actually a good summary of both Ruby's relationship to Sapphire and the Hoenn arcs as a whole.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210921140620/https://twitter.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1119960040457117696

>Good luck in education! My wife trained me to become a real person about 20 millimeters more than I did 5 years ago! Ruby should also be trained by Sapphire from now on! I hope it does!

>>58191414
enjoy SatoHaru anons

>>58190964
>Many tweets are long gone anyway
And many present one are still there. You don't know what you've lost until it's gone.

Niggers coaly tho, wobson got the gemmy tho
Got the reply, tho OP is a tranny, tho
(Wob Gang!)

Quote Marioipod like a script-y nigga, you a pedo nigga
On the vp with them Unova niggas, and them JohtoCHAD niggas
You run up and discord's raiding niggas, we ain't jannies nigga
No Aiden, you a loser nigga, up that rangeban nigga

On the four, Aiden posting coal, I'm raiding him some more
He wanna be a woman -ACK!, rope caught him just before the floor
Man it's sad, I caught a perma, the jannies know the score
They be spending 15 years on the tranime incel 'cord

I'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitch
On the board in the whip, posting 'fets in the whip
I post up with a wob, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I made Marioipod quit

In the chan my niggas be posting gems, my niggas wobsons bop
Catch a ban naming jews, janny working round the clock
Posting wobbuffets on the 'log, I grinded for my spot
Mario seething 'bout them fets, but my gems be worth a lot

I don't fuck with no May coal, only gems, tho
Spam my song in Mario's thread, let the janny clean it up
I don't bump it that's a coal post, that's a dust post
I'ma troll it then delete it, bump Wob Gang tho

Niggers coaly tho wobson got the gemmy tho
Got the reply, tho janny is a tranny, tho
All my wobs, thread's got fifty tho
Call it coal, pew pew pew, you silly tho

Post a 'fet, Aiden mad, replies a hunnid
Page 40, grab a Wob and then I bump it
Quote me, im quoting back, my folder, dump it
I aint wanna coal this thread, but nigga fuck it

I'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitch
On the board in the whip, posting 'fets in the whip
I post up with a wob, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I made Marioipod quit

I'm on some raid Marioipod's shit, take a janny's bitch
On the board in the whip, making 'fets in the whip
I post up with a wob, I let that shit hit
Shout out, but I made the janny quit

(Wob Gang!)

>>58191427
May looks like she really needed that hug.

>>58192772
Yes!

>>58190908
>Either Kusaka/Yamamoto once even tweeted that Emerald had a tsukkomi relationship with R/S for that purpose.
That was Yamamoto, Emerald was meant to be a standalone gag arc with the Hoenn trio until the editor insisted FRLG and E link back to the first 4 arcs (stone chapter wasn't until the volume release, and E ended its magazine run with VS Charizard I, extra pages to preceding chapters connecting to FRLG and everything VS Charizard II onwards was volume exclusive).

Dia and Pearl's manzai gag was salvaged from the original plans where Emerald was the boke to the Frontier Brain's Tsukkomi, and the Tsukkomi to RS.
>>58190964
The authors think Ruby has the exact same voice as this:
https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1076367532456521729
https://youtu.be/8TKmmhWbIIM?si=2Kx01cJHn0LIFsAh&t=405
>Todd Haberkorn
A lot of fancasts would use his Death the Kid voice back then kek.

Yamamoto says he and Kusaka also cite Bob Dylan's "The Times, They are a-changin'" as the image song for Ruby and Sapphire as characters.

>>58193523
https://files.catbox.moe/kbqljj.gif

>>58187458
Breed May so her breasts get even bigger.

>>58193523
And then they had sex!

>>58192821
>VS Charizard I
>VS Charizard II
I'd just go with chapters 323/324. Pokespe chapter titles are fucking awful when they keep recycling the same Pokemon names, even before the localization retardation with Viz especially making up shitty pun titles out of nowhere. For me the final nail in the coffin was Bulbapedo changing every single chapter hyperlink text to the Viz titles, making the wiki nearly unusable for manga related stuff.

>Dia and Pearl's manzai gag
The DP manzai was almost ruined by turning too serious, and made a lot of western fans hate Pearl. Though with how many of DP's jokes would never be able to be translated anyway it could just be something else that gets lost on international audiences. Meanwhile Emerald's comic routine with the Frontier Brains and Ruby/Sapphire seemed comparatively harmless because in the end Emerald isn't particularly close to any of them, they're all acquaintances at best so any slapstick or insults don't come off as too personal. Emerald interacting with groups of people, instead of people one on one, also made the manzai more impersonal and easier to take at face value.

Among those characters in the Emerald arc I think Sapphire in particular was trying to be closer friends with Emerald, but he kept her at arm's length. Emerald actually had more in common with Ruby and they both kind of knew it, but between Ruby's poor social skills/not caring as much and Emerald's resentment nothing really happened.

>Drew clone with an androgynous voice
>Ruby's voice never breaking even by age 15
I don't believe this, at least Haberkorn's DtK could sort of believably be the voice of an anime guy between ages 13-20. Not to mention Norman's started balding around his 30s-40s so Ruby better prepare himself for the reality of ageing.

>>58193784
Agreed on the Viz titles.
>The DP manzai was almost ruined by turning too serious, and made a lot of western fans hate Pearl.
I think it being slowly subverted with Diamond being the tsukkomi (in a far more serious context) made sense. However, it's just one of those moments that were made to look "iconic" when standalone and recapture RS's momentum but falls flat when you read it. I'm re-reading the gen 1-3 mangas rn while abroad, I'm on vol 16 now, we'll see if my thoughts on RS being one of the best arcs next to the gen 1 ones still is true for me (probably will)
>Not to mention Norman's started balding around his 30s-40s so Ruby better prepare himself for the reality of ageing.
That reminds me a massive theory back in the jb forums and Tumblr was that ORAS was going to build up to reveal Drake was Norman's estranged father just to explain Ruby trying reach out to Rayquaza just based off Drake's hairline being exactly like Ruby and Norman's

>>58194379
May......

>>58193523
>later that night...

She wants to go on a trip?

>>58195497
Fat tits and fat butt.

>>58193850
>slowly subverted with Diamond being the tsukkomi
Diamond becames to tsukkomi to Cyrus right? My memory's failing me but that was funny. Not that iconic but funny I guess. The only DP attempt at being serious that worked for me was the trio splitting up. DP might've been better if it just focused on being comedic and didn't meander as much, the RS arc seemed much more tightly structured in comparison.

>vol 16
Fun volume. Ruby and Sapphire's dynamic in the whole Dewford-Abandoned Ship part was underrated, it could've been explored more desu.

>RS being one of the best arcs next to the gen 1 ones
Based. I've also been procrastinating on rereading gens 1-3 because I enjoyed RGB/Y (RGB guys appearing in Y with new mentorship roles was kino, and Y being one of the few arcs with a proper ending helps a lot) while GSC was weird. Then RS comes afterwards to basically be the most popular arc but everyone knows that. I also wanted to reread everything because my next Sapphire related schizo theory after "Sapphire is religious and has racial in group preference" is that, in context of the RS arc's later tone shift compared to RGB/Y/GSC, (at the time) Sapphire represented old Pokespe and Ruby represented new Pokespe.

>>58195641
Though I recently reread RS/E/ORAS specifically since I wanted to look at Sapphires, and a lot of my general opinions on RS ended up changing. I think most readers can tell the main duo are more complex than they seem but to me they just keep getting deeper. Sapphire's actually quite smart in her own way (emphasis on "in her own way" kek), modern society just isn't conditioned to value the same things she does. Meanwhile Ruby's mental illness was worse than I remembered if you interpret his crashouts as suicide attempts, or how much he relies on Sapphire for purpose and structure he can't find himself. His mental decline in volume 18 is quite obvious too, it's not just some fan headcanon that something's wrong with him.

Then realizing the Epic of Gilgamesh parallel took me out completely, I went from thinking Ruby and Sapphire might be better off apart to believing their marriage/procreation/retirement at My Pyre is pivotal for their universe, which meant they have to suck it up and work things out. My views on Norman and Courtney also did a total 180. The Wallace/Winona and Ruby/Sapphire parallel also answers why Sapphire never challenges the League.

>hairline theory
What the fuck lmao. But it would be both interesting and relevant to the story to learn about Norman's relationship to his own dad I guess.

The result of her eating so damn much.

>>58195710
Me on the inside

>>58195641
>Diamond becames to tsukkomi to Cyrus
Yes, but with Pearl it's taken to the logical extreme with Pearl's emotions causing him to catastrophise and take it out on Diamond, with Dia being the "serious" one and shutting down all of Pearl's arguments.
Again, I think they wanted to have their next RS with DP but failed to capitalise on the character interactions much. Dia and Pearl are glorified cheerleaders who have no notable achievements of their own and Platinum isn't likable at all. The worst part is that all of this is somewhat fixable.
>Vol 16
It was. I like that they were confident enough to keep up the momentum from the GSC climax instead of deliberately holding things back as they did with later dual version arcs. Especially since Last Battle 14 was bundled with volume 15 in Japan and Asia. The fact they returned to badge collecting for Sapphire also helps pace the story better: GS has Lake of Rage not even 2 volumes in, and it seems MATO's retirement, the hiatus and Crystal's release must have been macabre saving graces for that arc's already unfocused pacing. Kusaka probably understood that RS marked the beginning of a new gen so he knew he had a timescale.
>Sapphire represented old Pokespe and Ruby represented new Pokespe.
Yamamoto actually talks about this in his twitter regarding FRLG and E. When the decision to link the two was made by the editor, it was decided that the two arc's would have half of the dex holders: FRLG's half represented MATO, and E represented Yamamoto. Emerald's is also one massive tribute to MATO. The water Kyogre is not just based on Movie 6's Groudon but also the Spirit Lugia, the logic of countering with a greater energy, scaling the Tower mirrors Silph Co and even Emerald waking up akin to Yellow in chapter 90.

>>58196289
>Platinum isn't likable
I thought Platinum was funny, though I also tend to think of her as a unit with Dia and Pearl. When they were separated in the Platinum arc I lost all interest. All the previous dexholders could stand on their own, even if Ruby and Sapphire got divorced they're still interesting as individuals. I'm not sure if the DPPtrio could survive a divorce since I'm not sure if any of them have huge individual fans, people like them for the meme trio thing. Well actually maybe Dia has fans.

>volume 15 in Japan and Asia
I have one of those with original volume 15 cover (with all the MCs in chronological order from Red to Ruby) which is easily one of my all time favorite vol covers. Yet another thing Viz took away from us, billions must die.

>the hiatus
QRD?

>FRLG's half represented MATO, and E represented Yamamoto
Interesting, never saw it that way. Sauce? Either way I'm glad they always had respect for Mato in mind. Though while Yamamoto designed Crystal I think Mato designed Gold, which muddles the idea when both of them appear in E.

But what I meant by Sapphire being old Pokespe and Ruby being new Pokespe, was actually contained to the RS arc at the time:

Sapphire
>moral objectivity (same as nearly all prior MCs)
>old game mechanic (badge collecting is as old as gen 1)
>local (story's set in Hoenn, she's from Hoenn, most MCs are from the region their story takes place in)
>her "nature girl" gimmick isn't new and is technically just an extreme version of Yellow's
>rootedness = stability (less mentally ill than/doesn't change as much as Ruby)

>>58196740
Ruby
>moral subjectivity/relativism (first MC to purposely be controversial AFAIK Yellow/Gold weren't controversial before 2010)
>new game mechanic (contests were introduced in gen 3)
>foreign (story's set in Hoenn but he's from Johto technically Silver's from Kanto, but this isn't explored anywhere as much)
>his "fancy boy" gimmick left even the editorial board not wanting him to exist at first, he barely escaped abortion
>novelty = instability (he is literally mentally ill and undergoes a lot of change)

This could be a stretch but returning to the Emerald arc, later when Ruby and Sapphire meet all the previous MCs, it's Sapphire who's excited about being part of this larger Pokedex Holder group. She freaks Gold and Crystal out when she first meets them because she's so into their shared heritage. Her excitement could come from how she's not that different from the previous MCs at her core, being "old Pokespe". Meanwhile Ruby doesn't seem to care as much (he just reads out the posters in the Dex holder museum because his gf is illiterate and needs help). Which could either just be him acting aloof again, or because he actually just doesn't relate to the others as much, him being "new Pokespe".

>>58196746
Not a manga reader here, why are Yellow/Gold controversial post-2010?

>>58195641
>my next Sapphire related schizo theory after "Sapphire is religious and has racial in group preference"
What's funny is that Sapphire's personality likely means she'd be super religious in nearly every context, be it animism or Christianity or something more obscure. As long as it involves serious prayer, meditation, and ritualism, she'd be all for it. She certainly wouldn't be the studious theologian type, but more like the old grandma who never forgets to pray her rosary to keep her nihilistic teenage grandkids and the entire world at large from falling completely into the abyss.

>>58197232
Trannies.

>1998-1999 (Japanese volumes)
Yellow arc: Yellow is a manga exclusive OC. Yellow looks and dresses androgynously and is assumed to be a boy. Later in chapter 78 it's revealed Yellow's a girl.

>2003 (Japanese volumes)
GSC arc, chapter 180: Gold pats a girl's ass because he's an anime pervert, then rightfully gets the shit beaten out of him.

>2003 (Japanese volumes)
RS arc: Ruby and Sapphire are new characters explicitly created to subvert some gender roles/expectations. Emphasis on "some". They're both straight and neither are trannies.

>2013 (the tipping point)
In the west, tranny activists succeed in making trannyism no longer be officially defined as a mental illness (see the DSM-5). They proceed to make trannyism look cool and trendy to young people through subversive mass media campaigns, though they already had a head start on this years earlier.

>early 2010s in general (English volumes)
The manga's accessibility in North America was in years long limbo until around this time. Now VIZ Media starts publishing official English translations of the manga arcs after RGB/Y, so for many westerners this was their first opportunity to legally read the GSC arc onwards.

But among the newly expanded western readerbase, some very loud kids decided that all the events mentioned above are now problematique and controversial. Having been brainwashed by recent tranny propaganda, they now want Yellow to be an official tranny/nonbinary character, for Gold to get extra cancelled (or something) and for Ruby/Sapphire to be official trannies and homosexuals at the same time. The fact their headcanons aren't real offends them greatly. These "people" have other shitty ideas too but those are the major ones.

Even if they're a vocal minority, their screeching was bad enough to shit up the entire existing online anglophone manga fanbase after the 2010s and ruin it forever.

>>58197531
I hate leftism so fucking much.

>>58197531
Not them, but I thought it was because there was a rumor around the XY/ORAS era about Yellow being a "sealed up" character (whenever the Japanese use this phrase, it's corpospeak for "banned"). Yamamoto always avoids answering the question or straight up says "what are you talking about?"
>>58196740
Here's the tweet about Yamamoto linking it to Mato and also comparing it to Ultraman eras. FRLG's ending and Emerald is also just that two parter stretched out.
https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1379507658768543748

Gold being Yamamoto's makes sense, Silver made some cameos in Yellow and has a link to the gen 1 dexholders+TR. Plus iirc, Yamamoto drew him much differently than MATO. She never drew Gold's cap with a poke ball symbol at the back iirc for example.

>>58194726
>123
Based milestone

>>58194726


>>58197881
*maysed

>>58198278
Lucky Satoshi (and Takeshi, I guess).

>>58198278
>See? They CAN stay on!

>>58198831
No.

>>58197531
>>58197641
Reminder that they have no issue with child mutilation or pushing the most extreme of degenerate fetishes, but boys and girls liking each other, or a pervert dude-bro boy tapping a cute girl's ass and immediately getting comeuppance, or other dumb heterosexual behavior from teens, that's all le bad? It's all so tiresome.

>>58199788
https://files.catbox.moe/6nz0aj.jpg

>>58197641
I love leftism so fucking much.

>>58199110
It's so intentional. Even accounting for bots and trolls, we still have groomers on /vp/ convincing confused autistic anons into thinking troonery is normal.

>>58199788
Butt too small
>>58199863
>>58199869
Perfect butts

>>58199893
Not really.

>>58199892
Pushing staunch heterosexuality in every thread I can.

>>58199893
Most definitely.

>>58199902
Based!

>>58200000
Nice quints, Contestbro. The one thing we can both agree on is May getting happily dicked by her bf.

>>58200000
based quints

>anti-homosexual anti-troon quints
/mg/ wins.

>>58200063
/mg/ always wins.

>>58200201
Throw him into the trash, Sapphire!

>>58200201
The real question is, would Ruby and Sapphire do gentle, loving, passionate sex that ends with cuddling, or would they have rabid, mental illness-fueled, trainwreck relationship fucking where they spend their time after the sex contemplating their life choices?

>>58200373
The former. If they ever fucked anyone else it'd be the latter.

>>58200373
>rabid, mental illness-fueled, trainwreck relationship fucking where they spend their time after the sex contemplating their life choices?
This for the first time
>gentle, loving, passionate sex that ends with cuddling
this then for the next month
then they realize and accept that they prefer the rabid, mental illness-fueled, trainwreck relationship fucking followed by cuddling

>>58200387
>If they ever fucked anyone else it'd be the latter.
No bad endings allowed

>>58200402
If they went that rough and hard for their first time, they'd probably have no choice but to switch to gentle, given how whoever's on bottom would have great difficulty functioning for a while.
>then they realize and accept that they prefer the rabid, mental illness-fueled, trainwreck relationship fucking followed by cuddling
Imagine all the bites and scratches all over Ruby's body (especially his back) if they do missionary

>>58200373
>>58200387
>>58200402
It depends. Does Ruby still "accidentally" use her ass for the first time? If so, turning it up to 10 from the start would be quite extreme and mentally ill to the max.

>>58200415
!!!

>>58200373
This >>58200387 most of the time.
The idea they're only ever in conflict comes from how canon mostly gives you brief snapshots into their lives, and most of those snapshots happen to involve both them arguing and also apocalyptic events
>RS arc is only 80 days long, and they've only just met
>Emerald arc is only 1 week long, they're getting along fine
>ORAS arc is only 10 days long, where their suppressed drama implodes then gets resolved
They've been together for 4 years and most of that happened offscreen. Also the fact they have completely opposite careers/work locations means they're not even spending all their waking hours with each other anyway, which reduces conflict by the time they come home. Meanwhile Wallace/Winona being coworkers destroyed their relationship.

>>58200387
It's a moot point for Ruby, since he'd kill himself after a breakup with Sapphire, before he could try to cope or get revenge. As for Sapphire, I don't know who she'd bang post-breakup. Maybe Gold? Any non-RuSa scenario is far too cursed to contemplate, so I'll agree with >>58200406.

>>58199014
Yes.

This image reminds me that Ash never actually wore the hood in AG, even when it was raining.

>>58201311
MODS

>>58197301
To me the Sapphire being religious thing is less about rituals, and more about
1 - Being a legitimate excuse for her to live in trees like a Tarzan
2 - Having a supernatural basis for morality (instead of "logic" for example)
so it could be hard to take her out of the animist/nature worship context, without losing sight of what her character is actually about.

>>58197649
Thanks for the sauce. Anyway Yellow having not officially appeared in years is also a bit of drama, but I've never seen anyone truly go mental about it. To me it's like how there's no BDSP or PLA arc, you can only speculate about why. Besides the only main loose end with Yellow is whether she gets to fuck Red and the answer is probably no. "Banned" or not I'm not sure what her reappearing would accomplish anyway since everyone hated the ORAS cameos, at this point being left alone like Yellow is actually a blessing.

It could also just come down to the places I unfortunately happened to lurk, even ignoring Tumblr, tranny stuff seriously affected every other discussion when it came to certain characters and Yellow is one of them.

>>58200542
Even if they broke up I don't see Ruby or Sapphire trying to get revenge on the other, they're not malicious types. At least based on volume 19, their "breakup" involves them just going separate ways and awkwardly avoiding each other, Sapphire being pissed and Ruby wallowing in depression, at least until avoidance is no longer possible.

>>58200946
Flesh balloons.

>>58201725
I'm on Vol 21 right now, and I think I've changed my a bit on Saph's treatment after Ruby's development. In volume 20, Sapphire's still getting focus as she recalls the incident and of course volume 19 has lots of times where she acts like the archetypal shonen hero figure.

I get the sense the writers felt like the audience reading the manga were growing up. Multiple romance subplots, having a near anti-hero like protagonist like Ruby, Sapphire subverting gender norms (in terms of battling) etc.

A thing that I always believed is that Ruby is still masculine, and that shows in his negative aspects. Irl, I notice men do share Ruby's specific brand of arrogance.

As for Yellow, I agree. I can't imagine a scenario she could even be thrown in. Like fighting against Neo Team Plasma? Some shitty one off where she's fighting the deforestation of Viridian Forest into its HGSS incarnation? Ironically, Luckyshipping people got a buffet in recent years.

>>58201560
Did we get raided by coomers? This is like the 10th thread i checked where literal porn was posted

>>58202005
Sapphire's role in late RS makes sense all the way up until the moment she fails to break some glass windowpane by herself. From that point until when she reunites with Ruby is the retardation zone. Then when Ruby pulls out his mystery 6th Pokemon, things become retarded again until Ruby and Sapphire return to their 80 day bet. The overall structure is there and it makes sense, it's the weird gaps that are incomprehensible.

Also Ruby's worst traits are his
>dishonesty/manipulation (stereotypically feminine)
>arrogance/selfishness (masculine)
>being emotionally detached/insensitive (masculine)

Sapphire's worst traits are her
>aggression (masculine)
>naivety (feminine)
>being overly emotional/sensitive (feminine)

The ratios of how much of each trait they display is what changes over time. For example after RS, Sapphire becomes less aggressive, but she's still an overall emotional sperg, she just expresses other emotions besides anger now. She also feels safe to be more sensitive, her sensitivity shows up whether she's being super affectionate with people or her just getting offended at things (whether she's being provoked or if something doesn't align with her morals).

As for Ruby, after RS he becomes less stereotypically arrogant so less showing off, but he remains arrogant in the way he still tries to defy destiny/PokeGod, thinking if he uses enough 5D chess logic he can prevent Sapphire's mortality. He's also now less selfish in that he's more willing to help other people, but he remains selfish by trying keep Sapphire "to himself" (preventing her martyrdom by taking her place instead), this is also coincidentally more Ruby defiance against God's plan.

Also by this point it should be obvious, but anyone who thinks they can analyze Ruby or Sapphire without taking the other into account, well they can't read. None of the above would mean anything in a vacuum without the other character as juxtaposition.

>>58202217
Also Luckyshipping makes more sense than Specialshipping anyway. Not that I think Red will ever end up in a canon romance with anyone, he's too related to game Red to shake up the status quo like that.

>>58202217
This probably has come up before, but which came first, your pic or M09's famous Satoharu fanservice scene where Ash put May into the pod to protect her? I'd like to know if either possibly inspired the other.

>>58202335
The manga chapter that happened in was December 2005.
Going to finish re-readong RS either tonight or when I get back to my usual country of residence on Friday but keeping the release timeline in mind helps contextualise the arc more. For example, I'm convinced more than ever that Wally was never intended to be a dex holder and the fake out was entirely to prevent spoiling the end of RuSa. It's also why Kusaka kind of held back the two characters in the E arc and made up the amnesia thing, it was to prevent spoiling the love confession and overall events of volume 22.

>>58202484
M09 debuted in July 2006, so it seems the Advanceshippers on the movie writing staff were reading the manga. Nice!

>>58202538
HOEEEEEEEEEEENN!!!

>>58202538
Made an exploitable. Go wild.

>>58202930
kek

>>58202930
lmao, edited it so she's pointing

clean edit

>>58204223
>Ohhhhhhhhhh, look at my fat butt!

>>58204224
Very nice.

Harpy May

>>58204897
for a moment I thought this was May flying type for the drawfag collab

should I post this in /dg/

>>58204919
Nope, just securing decade old artworks from becoming lost media.

>>58204224
Wait a sec, her glove is missing.

>>58204979
Absolutely brutal lmao

>>58204979
Why did they do this to Dawn in her own series? Like, this scene went harder than most of AG's own scenes. Was it really necessary?

>>58204900
Delete this garbage

>>58202484
>Wally was never intended to be a dex holder
I doubt it but it's also not impossible, he had less screen time than the fucking TV reporters so his significance was always questionable. Then again Wally appeared in old official art next to Ruby and Sapphire, just the 3 of them implying they were the next regional group of MCs. Who knows really. Dex holder Wally is probably the biggest Pokespe controversy after the Dex holder tournament and general shipfaggotry.

>the fake out was entirely to prevent spoiling the end of RuSa
What? How?

>It's also why Kusaka kind of held back the two characters in the E arc and made up the amnesia thing, it was to prevent spoiling the love confession
Yeah I can see the romance being nerfed to keep the Emerald arc a bit spoiler free. But later in ORAS you have Ruby and Sapphire obsessing over each other pretty early on. Ruby's even crying and shit about the gf in some cave while a bunch of Pokemon watch him awkwardly.

But back to the fake amnesia, I always thought it was more to do with Ruby and Sapphire being 11 in RS, just having crushes doesn't mean dating at 11 was a good idea. TPC might not have wanted the implication some 11 year olds were fucking either (since "dating" can mean a lot of things nowasays). By ORAS where RuSa are more or less literally dating, they're also put through a metaphorical wedding as if to assure TPC even if Ruby and Sapphire are having sex, at least they waited till "marriage" to do it.

Also Ruby faking amnesia because he got embarrassed over simping too openly is the most Ruby move ever. And their relationship would've moved too fast without any roadblocks, even if those roadblocks are just Ruby's usual bullshit. Though some people also interpreted Ruby in E as trying to sweep all the events of volume 22 in general under the rug, because of all the graphic deaths that happened, to not remind either Sapphire or himself of it all by association.

>>58204979
>>58205572
>wrecks your home with no warning

>>58205106
I'm sorry.

>>58206180
To any drawbro here:

Requesting an edit of this giving May her giant magumbos, bonus if this makes Serena look terrified.

>>58206189
No Duraludon twins?

>>58206189
This for next thread OP

>>58206211
Everything after gen 4 is non canon.

>>58206046
>What? How?
Throughout 2005 and 2006, RS, FRLG and E all ran concurrently. The magazine versions of those chapters avoided any direct links to the contemporary arcs, the volume versions would add new pages or alter dialogue to link them. For example, volume 20 when the Pokedex glitches out as Wally gets exhausted originally had dialogue where the Dex registered him (and stuff like the last chapter of FRLG and the rest of E Vs Charizard I onwards were made for the volumes). So when R+S appeared in the Battle Frontier in one magazine, the RS arc was at its final stages in another magazine.

It's basically a far less chaotic version of what would later go on HGSS onwards where multiple arcs were ongoing but at least in the mid 00s they had multiple magazines instead of having to rotate arcs around one magazine.

>>58206222
Nah, leave that for next week or on the day.
Let's do some prep work in the meantime.

>>58206267
>Throughout 2005 and 2006, RS, FRLG and E all ran concurrently
Right now I remember that. The original magazine endings in general would get either expanded upon or retconned too or maybe I'm just thinking about the RS magazine end, which abruptly cuts off after Sootopolis explodes.

>Pokedex glitches out
The Wally retcon still drives me a bit nuts. But that also reminds me of how also in RS, Ruby and Sapphire's pokedexes accidentally hit each other and it activates the gen 3 Record Mixing function in one of the weirdest game mechanic shilling moments ever. Then they end up with each other's data. So basically their pokedexes fucked, maybe this is how Pokedex holders reproduce.

>when R+S appeared in the Battle Frontier in one magazine, the RS arc was at its final stages in another magazine
Can't imagine the sheer insanity this caused in anyone reading both magazine releases at the same time back then. I actually remember actively following HGSS releases though, if Pt was coming out at the same time I guess I ignored it because I was hearing way more about BW around then. I think. It's been ages

>>58207608
>Ruby learning about Sapphire's bathing habits
Pervert

>>58207628
Ruby learns that Sapphire actually does like baths, the water just has to be boiling. This is useful for later when he must wash her himself.

But I'm not sure why Sapphire's pokedex recorded her jumping 521 times, either it's some automatic sensor/counter or there's a diary note taking function, where Sapphire just autistically counted how many times she's jumped for the past 3 months because she thought it was important. Either way she's an enjoyer of jumping and has a lot of energy.

>>58207972
Imagine if it recorded how many times Ruby and Sapphire fucked. And then they accidentally mixed records with Emerald or one of the other PokeSpe characters.

>>58207980
Emerald would instantly kill himself.

>>58208021
>Her ASS, Emerald! I had sex with her ASS! OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EMERALD!

>>58205106
>>58206189
>>58206675
The actual 9/11 date is coming up next week, so save one of these pics for a new thread on that day.

>>58208043
>>58206675
Agreed.

>>58208455
I want Nurse May to treat me...

>>58208717
>she's inside Latios

>>58195497
>>58200946
Breed.

>>58206675
N E V E R F O R G E T
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>>58208033
>>58209210
>ywn push Emerald to the absolute breaking point by bragging about all the ass sex you have with your big booty Sapphire gf

>>58208455
>>58208472
Do they have sex at the Pokémon Center while she's still on the clock?

Would we ever be able to make Sapphire say nigger? lol

>>58209328
To add salt to the wound, being a tiny midget would mean Emerald's always standing at face level with Sapphire's ass when she's on fours. But he can't do anything about it because Ruby would skin him alive.

>>58186586 (OP)
>121th
>th

>>58209885
She probably wouldn't know any better, so yes.

>>58209885
Just ask her to say "black" in Spanish or Latin.

>>58210147
>To add salt to the wound, being a tiny midget would mean Emerald's always standing at face level with Sapphire's ass when she's on fours.
Imagine if he had to hear the sloshing sound coming from her butt as she moves every day, resulting from the previous night's lengthy sexo time with Ruby. How much would he want to kill himself or adopt earplugs?

>>58202538
helping May!

>>58209694
Yes.
>>58211181
>butt sloshing
Is that even physically possible?

>>58211433
>Is that even physically possible?
Anything is possible if Ruby pumps enough in from enough rounds!

I've been thinking of commissioning an Advanceshipping piece with Ash and May both in Ash's AG outfit, but I'd like some feedback. Beyond just a drawing, I plan to have the result printing into a charm or standee of sorts. Here are a few rough versions I'm thinking:
>Ash and May both in the full AG outfit, each with the hat on and hood down
>Ash in the full AG outfit, same as above, and May in the top half of the AG outfit (sweater and hat on/hood down) but retaining her bike skirt and spats (see May in picrel)
>either of the above, but with one or both hats replaced by having the hood(s) up
>either of the first two, but with the hood(s) up over the hats, so they each appear like they're trying to look hard gangstas, despite being innocent qt3.14s
>some other combo I'm omitting
Most likely, I'd have them back-to-back with their arms folded, each smirking seriously like they're going to defeat any double battle challenges to them. I have other cute Advanceshipping ideas, most rooted either in DP outfits or the Lucario and Manaphy movies, but this one I'm less definite about what precisely I think looks best.

>>58211738
The outfit choices are up to you, but as someone who has made charms before all I know is that the commission will be cheaper the more specific your request is from the start. So if you decide on a charm, it'd be easier for the characters to have a chibi form design. But if you prefer more canon-accurate proportions, a standee could be better.

>>58211433
>Yes.
For some reason, I'm picturing those really stupid porn scenes where the girl is getting "covertly" fucked from behind while trying to maintain a conversation with someone in front of her who is oblivious to the situation in front of them. So in this case, Nurse May trying to deal with patients while Ash is behind a door or a wall sneakily fucking her, and the patient is none the wiser. That, or the less convoluted scenario being with Ash as the patient and Nurse May simply fucking him in his hospital bed to help him get better.
>>58211738
I like the idea of hat on/hood up dual coverings. They'd look so tryhard that it'd be adorable.

>>58200373
Ruby would try to be gentle but Sapphire would take over because she wants it rough and then they would cuddle afterward.

>>58212165
Nurse Joy fucking May because Ash doesn't know what a girl is.

>>58212165
>So in this case, Nurse May trying to deal with patients while Ash is behind a door or a wall sneakily fucking her, and the patient is none the wiser
That sounds hot, not stupid.

Spats stay on of course.

>>58211352
from May's strongest soldier

Queen of titmogging.

:3

>>58211642
Based!
>>58212183
They're always switching it up depending on their moods!

>>58212355
Source?

>>58212617
It's slop.

>>58212355
>>58213088
Perfect size for May. Keep genning these.

>>58213088
if it's your OC can you gen this same smug May somehow assaulting Dawn with her huge cowtits and Dawn being tsundere about it (as in she fell in love with May tits but doesn't want to admit to it). Of course SFW but if NSFW you can catbox it.

>>58212186
>>58212265
Just have Ash fucking Nurse May behind the front desk, out of view from everyone, through a hole in her chair. Nobody ever questions why May is sweating, panting, and moaning while doing her job.

>>58211181
>>58211433
>>58211642
Cum still sloshing around in Sapphire's butt after sex, so that Emerald could hear it, would imply that she didn't clean herself or use the little retard's room after sex and before going out afterward. Why would she do something so disgusting?

What even goes on in Sapphire's head? What thoughts occur when her two braincells form a connection amidst all that empty space?

>>58213292
Deep and rigorous thoughts about which trees are best to climb and sleep on.

>>58213106
This is about as close as I can get for now.

And another one I liked.

>>58212265
>Spats stay on of course.
Of course. Even in a nurse's outfit, May is still wearing her spats.

>>58207421
Time marches on to a point that no one knows.
Perhaps we'll find May at the end of this road.

>>58213292
Nummies.
>>58213300
This too.

>>58186586 (OP)
yessir

>>58213270
Ruby was about to give her a post-coital hot bath, but in a moment of retardation Sapphire jumped out the window. (Don't worry, she landed safely on all fours)

>>58213542
>post-coital
Does buttsex count as coitus?

>>58213446
Cute tardwife

>>58213568
Not sure but they did it in both holes, so that time it counted.

Suggestions for next thread's pic?

The 9/11 images are for the thread after the next one.

>that doublee chin
My dick!

>>58205615
It's even worse when May, who started doing contests on a whim, ended up becoming the most famous coordinator while Dawn, who always wanted to be a top coordinator like her mom, ended up being only moderately successful.

New thread when

>>58213812
>May is banging your traveling companion that you may or may not have feelings for, bonding with him openly in front of you with shared trinkets, and is more famous and successful than you
Rough break for Dawn

>>58214235
Soon™

>>58213812
The answer is obvious. May competed in spats. Dawn switched OUT her miniskirt for a long dress.

>>58213630
>Not sure but they did it in both holes
Absolutely obscene

>>58214469
>>58214555
Add this to the above nurse discussion and May is just too powerful.

>>58214235
New Thread nao:
>>58215226
>>58215226