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Previous: >>58194437

woagh the creation of PLANETA slop cards...

Bros... my... my brews... they're failing... not like this... I I can't escape great ball 3...

LET ME IIN!!

first for PEAK performance

Holy shit Raikou is garbage

>>58200199
Troll post

i hate this meta. Greninja is the most high roll shit ever

>>58200219
Try again
>>58200199

>>58200219
>>58200199
Samefag

>make small, quick change to deck
>fire up a ranked match
>have to concede because I have the wrong energy now
WHEN WILL IT END? WHY IS THIS STILL A THING? FUCK

Looking for 2 diamond Silver
Let me know what you want in return
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I don't really know why, but this meta feels the most retarded yet. Everything just has unstoppable momentum. Games are legit over by turn 3-4, i hate it so much. They've ruined the identity of so many decks by shoving in so much energy generation and ways to skip steps. So much ridiculous shit like oh my opponent can have 2 electrical switches in their hand and I could just get arceus'd turn 3 huh.

>>58200269
babies fixed going first in the worst way imaginable. Cards like tyrouge were balanced and resonable, but the card is already horrific. Being able to generate an energy turn 1 is so much better than anything else, it's not even close.

>>58200191
I'm in boys, here's my unbeatable brew if anyone wants easy wins

Has anyone felt that Oricorio is slowly getting phased out? I noticed that electric deck winrates are becoming pretty subpar even against water, and their grimmick of energy ramping no longer only applies to them so they just have low hp. Regardless even playing myself, it feels like oricorio isn't giving me those checkmate wins that it used too. It either can't outdamage any ex in an actual 1v1, or some support mon in the bench can easily one shot it with no effort.

>>58200300
Oricorio is dogshit, here's what happens most of the time
>opponent sends out EX
>you send out le ori
>tickle with 50
>opponent switches out and one shots you with baby sylveon/espeon/greninja/silvally
the birds time is already over, it's best deck is that awkward oricorio greninja deck with giratina, but no one likes playing that because it's match ups are too lopsided.

>>58200287
What energy does this run

>>58200300
Even if it's not that good on its own it prevents 18T decks to flood the meta

>>58200311
elec/psy

>>58200287
I don't get it

>>58200300
It was always bad. It got wins because people didn't prep for it, but now everyone has to because it became popular.
These days if you don't have a way to ohko oricorio your deck is dead in the water, but it also makes oricorio pointless

>>58200320
the game developed to a point where every EX central deck can just run a back up pokemon that kills oricorio. Flareon EX has the very good baby varient, water has greninja, Espeon has baby variant and sylveon, EVERY single deck doesn't give a fuck about it anymore. Darkrai-Tina prefers to not fight it but can rocky helmet it to death.

>>58200021
At least the layers make them less sloppy than their 2D and physical counterparts.

Mamoswine the strongest
Really appreciate that suicune is everywhere now, it really helps
Sadly fire is non existent now outside of magcargo decks

>>58200362
Rank and what do you pair it with? Wanted to give it a shot too

>>58200375
It’s just the line and mantykes
I’m in Ultra 1 at the moment

Do I go for the literal who?
If yes then where is she?

>>58200445
I gave it a shot with the energy gen babies and didn't like it, replaced it with cleffa
Also, no Misty?

>>58200459
I hate having to rely on misty luck so I don’t bother, just sucks the fun out of water decks for me
Cleffa sounds good, what could I replace for it?

>>58200452
She's reaching for the top left so there.

>>58200476
Thank you wise wizard anon
Now I’m obligated to do a meme slowking/ambipom deck soon

>>58200473
Fair enough. I felt too helpless if I drew swinub first with no leaf (or double energy baby, or no second basic...) so preferred the 50/50 on Misty instead
Since I have that energy chance I replaced the mantykes with cleffa, because the sooner mamoswine comes out the sooner I could relax (against water/fire decks)

>>58200488
Very nice. Post brew when you're done.

>>58200021
I don't mind these cards at all. The 3D modelling that is inherent to their creation is what allows the card to extend beyond the frame and lets you "peek" inside of it when you tilt the card.

This little factoid and the fact that they pop out of the card really sets them apart from the rainbow bordered alt arts that I wish had this 3d effect.

Not slop at all.

>be a ftp player because I don't consider this game important enough to spend money
>Decide to try out the 2 week free premium trial (double card packs and other perks sound nice
>forget to cancel before the trial runs out
>rather than end the trial it continues and charges me for a month
to be fair, its just typical mobile game shenanigans rather than any Pocket exclusive scumminess, 10 dollars for month isn't even that much and its kind of my own fault, but its the principle. not helping is I was alrady getting sick of this game's guff due to the powercreep being insane even by Pocket's standards.

>>58200342
? To make 2D digital art you make a shit ton more of layers

From 0 to 10, how FAAAAAAT are pokemon whales?

>>58200565
now you're forever marked as an oinker. when I used the free sub I immediately added an event to my calendar to remember to cancel. still a f2p purist here.

>>58200300
i feel like the only real "oricorio checkmate" deck left is luxray/oricorio.
every deck has answers to oricorio, no deck has answers to oricorio that can handle getting sniped for 120 on the bench.

>>58200633
This is fine since itll lead to decks that can go over the top of decks running answers to oricorio like 18t guzzlord. If those decks continue more decks will cut ori answers to match whichll make ori relevant again. Its the circle of life.

>>58200300
My elec deck is at 100% winrate against SuiNinja
Loses hard to psy-eeveelutions though

Best deck to climb right now?

>>58200688
Post brew

>>58200693
espeon or suicune

>>58200693
Eeveeslop

>>58200696
I'm thinking of switching a Cyrus for Repel, so that I can use Will at the same turn as the swap
I did just lose to a jank-ass Suicine + Wrath deck due to the fighting weakness

>>58200756
Are you the guy who used points for the rainbow lanturn?

>>58200780
no, that was pure luck for me. I think it was in the first lugia pack I opened

>>58200756
Lanturn is weird because it's basically electric Alolan muk

>>58200789
Which by default makes it better because electric has better support at the moment

>>58200792
Very true

>>58200693
I dont think ill be getting masters this season, its just too annoying. Its weird i had a 64% winrate no issue last time, now im like at 42%. Theres alot of fustrating decks to fight like 2 guzzlord and high rolling greninja decks. Even silvally doesnt feel all that good anymore because of how fast baby pokemon are ramping certain types now. Oricorio also feels more like wasted deck space

>just played this candy crush rip-off for like an hour to get 50 play points
How low have I sunk?

>>58200828
I've never bothered with these, can you actually redeem them to buy stuff

>>58200846
If I spend $2 more, I can get $15 off of my next purchase.

my god, it's nothing but coonniggers and darktina every fucking game. this is dog shit lmao ill just stick to opening packs

>>58200697
>>58200703
nta but you guys are wrong.
>got to master ball easy with espeon box
>now struggling to get out of ub3 with it
Somehow the deck can’t keep up now
>>58200819
Damn, didn’t think the deck would fall off this fucking immediate. What are people using to push to master ball? Can’t be eevee no way. I’m getting fucked over here with the rng and suicine matchups

Oricorio isn’t shit now that greninja is back at full power and silvally can’t keep up with the damage trade offs

>>58201101
>isnt
Mean to say shit and I forgot to mention that I also noticed that many players are running repel now for the raikou suicine but mostly in guzz decks

>>58201101
Top 3 decks are espeon, darkrai-tina, and suicune espeon.

>>58200828
Wait is this some android only thing

>already getting nothing but 1 and 2-diamond packs that are nothing but duplicates
>when i'm still missing a bunch of 1 and 2 diamonds
This set isn't even a week old.

>>58200853
God thats poathetric. if you're gonna pay pig then just buy pokegold you fucking retard. why are you collecting digital coupons like some homeless crack addict?

>>58200853
You could just get it from g2a.

>>58201195
Most likely a latinx trying to fund his gaming habit

You used to be able to get points fast and easy through Microsoft rewards before all the piece of shit indian and latinx people ruined it

>>58201251
i'll never understand these creatures. it's a video game, it's not real. they'll shut the servers down in 5-10 years and it will all be gone. i buy my nephew real cards (he can't even play the game properly) but he loves the art. he'll own those as long as he wants to. the thought of him growing up playing shitty farmeville clones so he can earn coupons to buy discounts on gacha micro transactions makes me feel sick.

>>58201285
Your mistake is thinking that cardboard card are any more real than physical ones. The only meaning either has is the sentiment (you) assign to them. It's trivial to download the PNGs, print them and frame them if you want, or use a card simulator to play with any cards you like without owing Dena a cent or caring when servers go offline.

It's all a spook, and holding physical paper in your hands doesn't really give it any objective value

>>58201358
>The only meaning either has is the sentiment (you) assign to them
this is a cop out answer to excuse some double digit mongoloid being addicted to gacha
>holding physical paper in your hands doesn't really give it any objective value
this is 'objectively' wrong though

>>58201439
>filtered by naive materialism

*Snap*
Yep, your decks are all going into the cringe compilation
Sleep with the fishes :^)

>>58201477
Have you ever had to sac a magikarp and pray you get it back with the fisherman?

>>58201502
Unironically no, because the fishing net gets either that or one of the other basics back
Most of the bad times are when the opponent has Mars after a discard feast

>>58201477
Hows the regice working? Ive had some rough spots going against greninja high roll Ill take any advantage I can get

>>58201477
Post brew

Can you drop out of master once you're in?

Darkrai, 'ol buddy, 'ol pal. Remember me? I was your best man at your wedding haha. Anyway, it's been a while. You don't answer your phone, I guess you're busy these days. Just hit me up if you ever wanna party again bro, like old times, haha! No homo though, I know you're taken and everything, just wanted to call and like I dunno arrange a coffee date or something. Fuck that sounded so gay. Can I delete voicemails before they save? Um...hit me back haha!

>>58200533
They could emulate the same effect with life2D/parallax but are too cheap/lazy.

>WP'd a suicune
>Don't actually have any of the support mons/trainers to do anything with it
Does it work with Sylvally?

>>58201574
Guttertrash

>>58201640
Very based picture

>>58201477
post deck, every wild swing gyara deck ive tried has been middling at best.

>>58200210
He's really electric Passimian Ex, if you can brew it

>>58201731
This desu
Sad because Gyarados has been my homie since gen1

>>58201794
Volkner moment

I’ve given up playing it but one thing I’ve noticed / thought up is that Lanturn really doesn’t need Will, probably better running electric cord and something else instead

It’s not a card that really flounders from not getting heads - minus like them retreating from confusion and killing your with something on their bench?

At the very least maybe just one Will for those clutch scenarios, but not 2

Been laddering with a sweets relay deck. Surprisingly effective. Bodies eeveeslop, provided I don't get stuck with Milcery in my active spot on turn 1. I doubt I'll make it to Master Ball but Ultra Ball 4 is all mine.

>>58201862
It doesn't "need" will, 75% chance to miss is good enough, but the guaranteed paralysis blocks retreat and wins games by itself. I doubt there are any 2 other cards that would make a Lanuturn deck stronger than 2x Will. Like, why use Cyrus to bring back a damaged mon when you can use will and prevent it from retreating in the first place? It's not like the mon is meta enough that people are packing Lyras and Nurses to counter the paralysis

WP rerolls when

>>58201949
Nta but I agree with this I think guaranteed paralysis is too good to look over. There's a reason that paralysis is always locked behind a coin flip it's because the status is extremely powerful and it basically wins the game on its own. Guaranteeing paralysis locks the entire game down and there's often nothing your opponent can do.

>>58202036
A lot of people are running nurse joy nowadays unless the ladder is rigged and lanturn decks only face nurse joy users lol
Which does provide use to a Cyrus after a person nurse joy’s and retreats or something
Depends
Either way the deck feels kinda meh, zeraora is good as energy gen but shit as an attacker
Oricorio is oriocorio

Hasnt been a week and im already tired of this meta man. I don’t like sounding like a whiny bitch but wow, this format feels like the last one but suicune shoved in. Alot of b tier decks feel alot weaker, especially the silvally ones.

>>58202055
But if they're running nurse they counter you either way. The main strategy is to waste your opponent's turns using status conditions. You can either go all in with Wills and maximize your strengths or try to cope by designing your deck around the 4 relatively unpopular cards that hardcounter you anyway

>jap player
>red cards me turn 2 when i have 3 cards in my hand
every fucking time
what autism do they have that makes them do this

>>58202055
>Nurse joy
I mean yeah sure but just because there's counterplay doesn't mean that that's not the strategy you should go all in on. Guaranteeing the status feels like something that is Lanturns strength. Not to mention that at most they run one copy of nurse Joy and often it is blown early on anyways to prevent a KO.

I still think that two Will it's going to be the way to go for this deck because that's embracing the strength

>>58202110
Botting, probably
I've seen a lot of unusually dumb plays from jap players

the weak fear the strong

>ho oh was solid for a month
>game got hopelessly sped up and he is permanently bad again
this rules, good job dena.

I’ve been opening suicune with nihguzz

I just got a second Jumpluff EX and I wanna make a deck around it but I don't know how counter the stupid yellow bird, any suggestions?

>>58202426
Switch into helmet Pyukumuku. Oricorio only stops damage, not secondary effects.

>>58200533
Less slop, but still slop. They could've done the same thing with Illustration Rares and also give us actually immersive Immersive Rares instead of "immersive" Movie Rares.

I need two GA Flareon.

6003345647934868

My cards are in Japanese.

why is it that people who play the top metaslop deck are always the slowest-thinking smoothbrain retards imaginable? like bro your deck plays itself how does it take you a whole fucking minute to use greninja's abiility and then attack with suicunt

I'm having fun with Garchomp.

>confidant im about to win
>random double elemental switch and i lose
this game has reached a point of no return.

>>58202506
What is wrong with you where you talk like this

>>58202553
Post brew because I was never able to get this to work

>>58202565
Sub the red card for Mantyke for better effect, I only got one on me.

Memory light torterra is actually decent

>>58200199
What if he plays Guzma now?

I played ranked for a bit yesterday and it seemed like 70% of players are using some variant of Jumpluff in Ultra 1.

>>58202650
ultra 1 must be where the poorfags who haven't pulled a suicune reside

Did any of you predict the game to powercreep itself to shit so fast? This guy died to my turn 4 flareon it was instant checkmate. I would say 70% of the time the game is determined by your starting hand, 20% draws after and 10% skill expression

Anyone in need of a Crobat ex who has an extra Lugia, Ho-oh, Lanturn, or Shuckle ex?

Many thanks if so
4860019518532731

>>58202331
Don't care, I'm still using him.

>>58202700
suicune is destroyed by lickitung and soon to be an expensive paper weight meme pick

>>58202776
Is Moltres working for you? I was building a similar deck but Moltress was a benchwarmer (heh) 99% of the time for me

>>58202796
Yeah he works for me. I don't really like using Magby for ramping because it dies to everything and then you're one Cyrus'd EX away from losing. Moltres has the bulk and can even attack by itself, which often catches people off.
The only real issue is low-rolling on your coinflips.

I feel like i have a curse on me, every game is just me getting fucking scammed out with a bad starting hand.

>>58202776
Brew?

>>58202827
You need to spend significantly more money than your opponent did in order to avoid this.

>>58202854
It feels like my account is marked for death, im so sick of this fucking meta already.

>>58202885
It's such a strange card. It would be pretty fucking bad even without the discard

>>58202885
Is this the only dragon that can't rely on babies for support?

>>58202894
I forgot about Ultra Necrozma.

>>58202885
Seems like it could be used in a Leafeon/Sylveon deck, while using only psychic energy. I don't know why you would ever do that though.

>>58202905
Leafeon only gives Grass-types energy. You'd be reliant on Dawn.

>>58202905
Leafeon can only charge grass types

>thinking over my turn
>oh no Im running out of time
>oh sweet thanks fro playing the card animation
>yep and the type weakness, im aware
>oh cool ran out of time

>>58202829
Nothing groundbreaking. You always want to start with Moltres, so two Leafs are mandatory to fix bad starts, but it's also there to combo with energy transfer for a potential swap to Ho-oh. (One coinflip going your way enables this already)
Gameplan is feeding Ho-Oh with Moltres, then feeding Rayquaza with Ho-Oh. With all the energy generation you're free to freely switch around, making use of the high HP pools to soak attacks.

>>58202893
Dena is retarded when it comes to high damage attacks, they have no idea what does and doesn’t deserve a big penalty. Giratina EX can just generate its own energy and deal 130 with 150hp, but god forbid the baby version do anything with grass and psychic.

>>58202913
>>58202915
Oh damn, nevermind then.

>>58200016 (OP)

Is it just me or was blissey EX nuts? I couldn't get 2 unfortunately, but I have no idea how you'd play against a blissey that's supported by energy

>100 damage, chance to heal 60hp
>shitloads of HP to start with
>Can guarantee a heads now thanks to new trainer card adding to the other trainer cards than can heal
>can further boost HP through items
>can give it potions
>can heal further with wigglytuff

It's nuts

>>58202929
Thanks, but I just checked my collection and I only have 1 Moltres. I thought I got a shiny one, but I only got Zapdos and Articuno.

sniping dumb backrow sylveons with sabrina + eevee bag flareon feels so good

>>58202885
Good

Is electrical cord really necessary for an Oricorio-Luxray deck? The only use I can really think of for it is as a backup if I brick on Volkner.

>>58202647
With dena popping out new cards every month, people seem to forget to play guzma or mars these days

>>58202963
If you're using Zeraora yes, getting a 50 damage up early and then transferring that energy to your main attacker is too good
If not then it depends. Put in one copy and see if it works out for you

Who was asking for boltund list the other day? This looks alright
Emolga ohko's froakie

>>58203062
I wish I had a second Boltund to try this out.

On turn 3, i had a full power arceus and did 150 damage with a red. The match was instantly decided and my opponent had no way to stop this aside from a random red card guess. Do you guys like that they powercrept the game so fast or are you already sick of it.

>>58203124
>you need to get 4 specific cards in the right order
>3/4 of these cards are bricks if you don't get them right on time
Yeah, nah. Sometimes you just luck out and win. Comparatively speaking, if you want to gamble on the instant win you're better off with a 18T Palkia+Misty. At least with that you only need 1 card (Palkia being guaranteed opener) and some luck with coins

How the fuck you play with giratina in suicune/greninja deck if you're playing a game where you CANT sacrifice 3 turns to not attack to use broken space bellow?
Unless you run dual energy

>>58203151
nta but its not that lucky to get an arceus out asap. You have 2 switches, a red or giovanni, etc.

>>58203169
I have yet to see giratina do anything useful in a suicune deck

>>58203170
It is that lucky to get Pichu on the opener, Zeraora turn 1, an element switch and red by turn 3. Also another basic so that Arceus has a full bench to hit with

>>58202249
No cyrus/Sabrina
2 x speed 0 leaf
Interesting, do you have any vids of you playing this deck?

Boltond only does 70 damage? I always assumed 90 because that might’ve made the card good.

>>58203217
u shut ur dirty whore mouth
>>58200287
I tried this and just constantly got screwed by dual energy RNG, Mimikyu + a ramp baby is a cool idea though

After some struggle finally climbing again with this heckin good boi list.
pros
fast dmg, consistent
cons
sometimes ppl KO ur heckin good doggerino :(

>>58203124
This is a thing in literally all card games anon. The more digital card games i try the more really many ppl have never played games like this and don't understand how they work.

>>58203264
Thanks I was looking for a boltund list
shame we live in a meta where 1 energy for 40 damage doesnt really cut it

>>58203287
I'm playing it in great ball 4 rn. Emolga is good, 1 shots babies and 60hp water basics. It's actually not that uncommon to just win on turn 1 or 2 by KO's their basic with Emolga or and early Boltund.

>>58203287
It's better than you seem to think

Watching a jap player with giratina in his deck
Had a turn where he couldn't attack and had tina on the bench and didnt even use broken space. It didnt do anything all game just take up space
Whats the point?

>>58203364
Aura farming

>>58203364
It's there for me to Sabrina into the active and then ohko for 2 prizes

what would be the best mons to put as meat shields (metal deck in my case)?

>>58203402
Have you tried amass memory light melmetal yet with baby skarmory?

>>58202110
>>58202150
If it's pissing you off, that means it's well timed. Red card isn't just about setting your opponent back 1 turn. It's also worth looking what pieces are in play and guessing what can be in your hand.

Even if you have 2 cards, it's worth doing a red card if you're halfway through your deck and don't have a stage 2 rare candied yet - because odds are you have a rare candy you've been sitting on and waiting for that evo, or vice versa. And by shuffling your hand back in, you can potentially get set back a lot more even with an extra card. The risk is worth taking depending on what they're trying to hold you back from and what their current position looks like. You can try using Silver as training wheels for learning Red Card timing. Take a look at your opponent's hand at various segments of the match, and keep note of when YOU would hate to be red carded the most. It isn't always when you have a large hand (though that does definitely hurt the most.) If you're getting red card at 3 then it probably means your draws were good since you are placing a lot on the board/using a lot of items and trainers. So if they don't use it then they may not get a better chance.

>>58203410
I love getting red carded because I would say 90% of the time it helps me

>>58203407
I run a tinkaton ex + skarmory deck but I want to switch baby skarmory with something more tanky (melmetal is nice but I'd prefer base pokemons)

>>58203410
I've been being more shrewd with my draw cards to avoid red card. I don't always blow professors research or Sylveon immediately because of it. Instead I wait to use whats in my hand before trying to refill. Doing this my opponent doesn't know when to red card and often the red card will help me more than it hurts because if I can't play what's in my hand it means I need to refresh it.

I find it very amusing when my opponent plays mars on me turn one and then I draw into exactly what I need, I often use a professors research after that to show them exactly what they did.

I don't ever run mars or red card in my own decks (unless I am flexing my full art mars)

What's the best deck to use with my wife in? I've been using Nebby (Solgaleo) but that doesn't seem to cut it anymore.

>>58203648
Zard, polywrath
Literally anything with a stage 2

>1 week after the new mini set drop and the thread is already dead.
If you guys told me that an official mobile pokemon tcg game would die first than a pokemon moba released 5 years earlier I would have thought you were crazy

>>58203658
The meta is deeper than it's ever been
The problem is it took so long to get there

>>58203658
The new set might as well not exist because I don't have any of the new cards worth using.

>>58203654
Aiight, I'll try and pull from the new set then. What does Poliwrath do that makes it so good anyways?

>>58203675
What's your favorite stage 2 right now

>>58203658
These threads have been the same speed for the last 6 months except the days we get a trailer or leaks

>>58203675
Poliwrath has good damage if you can get it off

>>58203658
The game has been bleeding players for a while now, Dena even said their main focus right now is maintaining monthly active users and they're preparing a big update.

>>58203707
I don't understand these gacha games that launch with basically no content and the get surprised their player base drops off

>>58203707
>they're preparing a big update.
the solo content is miserable rn, I hope they add interesting stuff (they won't)

I feel like im being gaslit, i watched godzlys video on suicune/greninja with tina and it didnt do anything all game. Just sat on the bench and either had no energy or 3 energy and never attacked
What the fuck do you do when you start the game with tina as your only basic? Without leaf youre fucking cooked not being able to retreat

Flareon is fun to play but I can't help but get into unwinnable scenarios sometimes
Mostly due to not getting online quickly enough and running out of 1 point sacs
bad luck or bad play im not sure

>>58203729
>wtf do you do when you get a really bad opener
this may surprise you anon but card games are random you will not have a 100% winrate no matter what you do

FUCK YOU CURSEOLA

>>58203713
In Pokemon's case it literally doesn't matter because it just prints money, I mean look at this shit. At least EoS isn't anywhere near the realm of possibilities, so there's hope for a better game in the future.
>>58203728
I would really like to see some kind of challenge or puzzle mode. Trying to clear those missions that ask you to use only X or Y is not enough.

>>58203729
You could try watching the #1 player and see for yourself, he's been using tina in his suicune deck since day 1 and never took it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp2sbHl2U9k

>>58203738
This may surprise you retard but you maximize your wins by cutting shit that doesnt work
If giratina is not compatible with suicune/greninja you fucking remove it
There is no justification for it, there is no scenario where its a game changer, its merely there to take up space, and i have yet to see any valid responses to prove me wrong.

>>58203729
>>58203757
Actually scratch that, he JUST took out giratina just an hour ago. He's running two birds now.

So you can see what his winrate looks like with and without tina.

>>58203757
Yeah i was watching him earlier. He lost 4 games in a row before i abandoned him. Literally sat on the bench all 4 games and didnt do anything>>58203364

>>58203766
>>58203757
>This guy has the most free time

>>58203774
How the fuck does he stream 8-12 hours in a row playing tcgp without blowing his brains out?

>>58203766
Slightly more recent, there's an x-speed now.
>>58203774
He keeps a running tally of his winrate.

>>58203761
suicune decks need a lot of basic cards to be effective, giratina is one of the best ones. he build pressure when you can't attack for whatever reason.
lil bro here is really trying to say giratina ex is a shit card lmao

>>58203767
This shit is so funny to me
>So called "top player"sticks giratina in literally everything because it's the most powerful card in the game
>Multiple pocketTubers make videos about how good it is
>Nobody can show it off actually functioning in the deck because it doesn't
>Now even the top player has realized it doesn't do shit
Top kek lads

>>58203780
Thank you, thats literally what ive been getting at. Ive watched a bunch of streamers but tina in it and i have yet to find 1 video where it does something. Im not saying tina is a bad card but it doesn't fit suicune

>>58203790
>Im not saying tina is a bad card but it doesn't fit suicune
Exactly. And anyone could see it despite it being hyped up as belonging in the deck

This was just bad luck
Eevee bags and both Oaks hiding at the bottom of the deck
Couldn’t realistically attack without being at risk of dying
And then to add insult to injury they didn’t play Cynthia once…so I was fine
I guess go balls to the wall attacking next time

>>58203756
Ironic you say this while posting this picture because Fates is a considerably SHIT game that never improved, finished it's main story and people still play it despite being total fucking SHIT

Anyone want to do a 1 or 2 diamond trade? Need one more thank you for my 5th shop ticket of the day. Lemme know if you need any specific card.
4018498134728310

>>58203812
Can't win em all
You would have had him if red was a bag

>>58203842
yeah more or less, im mostly winning
there are some super specific losses that annoy me, like a basic poplio line without any bench winning by default

>>58203841
>>58203841
Nothing to trade but I'll like your showcase

Speaking of that my friend here only has 3 likes on his Eevee binder :(
Add him and give him a few more
0897940835546016

>>58203832
Wrong on all accounts. If by main story you meant part 1, then there's many, many questions that have yet to have been answered in the story. Part 2 is only ending this year.
The game has also improved dramatically over the years, really the only reason it survived the first few was because it was backed by the Fate IP and nothing else.

>>58203812
>>58203729
Even the best deck has around 56% chance to win (assuming there's not missplays). Luck has a noticeable impact and decisive cads like Sabrina and Cyrus can turn the game around.

With at least 40% winrate, anyone can reach UB1 and claim these 75 glasses and not to play ranked for the rest of the month.

>>58203860
Thanks man, I'll add him

Crystal Waltz should've cost 3 Energy

Fucking nigger card for niggers

>>58203908
>3 energy for 60 damage

lol

>>58203908
people got too comfortable adding sylveons to their benches so it's actually a good meta balance

>>58203777
He's already back to using Giratina. That didn't last long.

>>58204033
Pretty sure Giratina's role is to meatshield, no? Like he builds his own energy so you don't waste anything by having him retreat, so you get to set Suicune up and start building Greninja. He warms your bench as a +20 for Suicune and opening with him may make him a Cyrus target, but Suicune deck isn't supposed to lose a point honestly. It's tanky and gets the Grenigger gatling guns out fast so you're punished for not building your bench but also punished by Suicune for building your bench. Giratina just says hi, and unlike Snorlax doesn't make you take up trainer slots for it to be recalled.

>>58204050
He's also a reliable 130 damage that threatens OHKO on pretty much anything with Greninja pings

>>58204073
I rarely see him getting the energies for this, but yea I can see him in a very niche situation where you calculate that maybe Suicune's damage output won't cut it after it takes out 2 cards or something, so sack Suicune for Giratina to revenge sweep. But I primarily just see it tank. Greninja I like never see attack unless Oricorio is in play.

>>58204087
Yeah I'm not saying Giratina is the main attacker, but the fact he has that option there also makes it powerful
I imagine he would attack in an Espeon matchup for example

>>58204073
he takes three turns of you not attacking to set up

Even if you start with him turn one you arguably only get one turn, at Max 2 before you're attacking with Suicune

>>58202938
Yeah, I feel like we haven't tapped the potential of Blissey yet. We've just started to realize that healing can be useful.

>>58202938
yeah bliss has a lot of potential with the proper early set up. I've only had 6 matches with this brew but it's undefeated

>>58204134
Especially now with memory light she can continue to Will into scrunch as she ramps up after evo

>>58204134
I don't even have one and I'm really sad
Can't even trade promos

Why did people stop running red? Red and Gio in a deck is always catching people offguard.

>>58204217
We have a healthy meta and there's no longer room for auto includes

A deck is 20 cards but you only choose 18 of them.

>>58204230
Will he ever be surpassed?

>>58204230
Full Art and other professors never ever...

>>58204230
Yep, my Toge deck only runs one pokeball

>>58204230
16*

>>58204401
15*

>>58204401
lots of decks don't use them

We really need to have a fucking filter for type when building decks. This is getting ridiculous now with how much I have to scroll up and down every fuckng time I'm building something. Scroll mid-way to the list for electric types. Oh, don't forget that for some retarded reason in 2025 with phones as powerful as they are, you can't fucking cache the jpegs to all be pre-loaded so they instead load as you scroll meaning there's a slight delay before you even see the fucking color of the cards you're scrolling through. Oh and now you need to scroll to normal type...now items and trainers. It's just bad UI/UX at this point now that my card list is so fucking huge.

>>58204430
'lots' is an extremely generous way of saying <1%

>>58204453
Slowbro, miltank and magcargo are not that rare, of course metafaggot ranked players don't see them

For those confused about why someone would red card you when you only have 3 cards...you lack poker face, which is weird to say in a game where you don't see the other person's face, but sometimes you guys play way too confidently into your next move and almost tell me right away you've got good shit in your hand.

>>58204470
NTA but I used two pokeball in magcargo since if you only run 2 slugma 2 magcargo then that means pokeball + comm is a guaranteed magcargo draw.

I usually dropped a pokeball for decks like lycanroc rampardos, not much use having two of them.

>>58204470
>these niche decks aren't that rare actually, they just never show up in the only game mode that matters.

>>58203658
There's no strategy. There's nothing to talk about. There's nothing to trade for.

>>58204449
are you retarded

>Go first
>Have basic and stage 1 in hand
>Able to take advantage of the early evolution
>Stage 1 pokemon requires 2 energy to attack

lmfao

>>58204512
That's what Memory Light is for

>>58204514
People keep saying it's useless but it really fits in almost every deck I have

>>58204511
There is an "arrange by type" filter but not a filter for individual types, which would significantly cut down time scrolling.

>>58204527
again
are you retarded

>>58204527
>>58204449
Click there bro

>>58204550
I'm not TYPING the fucking name of every card I want to use, retard. That's

BAD
UI
BAD
UX

Fuckin dumbass. Put a fcuking type filter.

>>58204564
Ok he's retarded

>>58204564
You're funny, I'll kill you last.

Promo Zoroark drop event is live btw

Finally made it to ub4

>>58204581
Think they will ever rerun these events

HEY GUYS LOOK AT MY SPICY NEW BREW!

>posts a giratina deck, but with a new gimmicky pokemon thrown in
>posts a sylveon deck but with a new gimmicky pokemon thrown in
>posts a suicune deck but with a new gimmicky pokemon thrown in

I hate that the "only use 1 2 3 diamond cards" rule is as literal as possible
It's clearly only intended to stop ex Pokemon, so why does it void using a full art of a legal card?

>>58204583
Highly doubt it. They might make them tradeable one day though.

>>58204594
So you pay more to get the common version if your account got seeded to only pull the FA and not regular despite how common it is.

I have 5 fucking FA Magby and not a single regular one.

>>58204581
wait does this mean no sneak peek this pack? fucking gay

>>58204605
But It kills incentive to bling out a deck when the game forces you have to take out the full arts once a month

Initial pulls I only got zorua and zoroark

Are the tropius and Poliwag unique? Not that it matters because it looks like they suck

Trade tokens please?

If someone sends a trade request with one of your wishlisted cards, but you don't have any spares of the cards they want, do you offer whatever you have or just cancel the trade?

>>58204697
I offer a dragon type card usually

>>58204697
I personally cancel unless it's for something like the sweets relay/gholdengo emblem in which case I send a duplicate copy back

>>58204697
Cancel.
I've been trading pretty much every single day since the changes to trading went live and I've canceled a few already. People understand you don't have any of their wishlisted cards and they offer a different rarity.
Btw thank you to my bros that always trade with me.

>>58204697
Offer something random from latest expansion. Chances are they might not have it

Someone opened this pack

am i getting filtered or is this meta overwhelming? The last one was solid, plenty of meta decks that all had good and bad mus into one another. Suicune shook up shit too much, it sped the game up and now lesser types like fighting and grass got completely pushed out.

>Zoroark deck
>Look inside
>Darkrai does all the lifting

>>58204760
>deck uses dark energy
>Darkrai does all the heavy lifting

Making a bingo for anniversary

>>58204724
peak WP experience

>>58204724
That would be the kind of pack to make me stop playing.

I may actually be retarded but the suicune giratina deck just doesn't feel good to play. You either have a good hand the first turn or you brick. The sylveon/greninga/giratina seemed more elastic

>90 pack asses
Save for next month or piss away for either FA Cyrus, Shiny zard, or immersive Guzma, or cry at getting nothing and no ammunition for next set?
Holding off for megas is tempting

>>58204927
Megas are DOA
Pull for whatever your heart desires

>>58204933
Zero 2+ stars

>>58204581
gonna make a crobat zoroark deck with this. been looking for something that hits for at least 70 and isn't an ex. plus its only a stage 1. plus if you sweep an oricorio or kill something else, you bassically stall an extra turn or force them to sabrina/cyrus. it's not gonna be a meta deck but probably still fun. I did well in unltraballby just highrolling crobat + rare candy turn 2.

Man Raikou doesn't do shit against Suicune most of the time

being able to trade promo cards would be so huge...

I've just been opening 2 mew packs (almost) every day since they came out and tfw still no gold mew

>>58204888
>I feel it

This game will give me nothing but white borders for several days in a row, then expect me to feel like spending money only to continue this outcome.

>>58205073
how many pack points are you at now

>>58204217
Current meta decks don't need red

>>58205073
Are you the old sea map guy

>>58204179

Same, I tried grinding her for ages but alas, I only got one...

>>58202938

It's just better venusaur in every regard really isn't it

>comp is just sweaty chinks all running the same 3 meta decks even in GB ranks
Thank fuck I completely stopped caring about this games pvp. Grim.

The AI is so ass with certain cards, Decideye ex just spams Pierce the Pain because it does more damage than Razor Leaf even though nobody has any damage counters on them so I'm just sitting around doing nothing.

>>58205279
The AI gets more and more retarded with each update.

Guys, you do know you can combine Girantina with Entei as well, right?

>>58205315
Fire and electric don't have healing and greninja chud.

I'm in ub 4 and literally every deck is the suicune giratina meme, it's tempting to switch to an electric to more easily counter

>>58205327
Do it. Yesterday I dunked on 2 SuiTina decks in a row with funny bird, and a vintage Sylveon Stokezard

>>58205327
Electric won't do shit.
Just play this and thank me later

>>58205337
.....
What the hell is this

>>58205340
Easy W

>>58205337
Why repels instead of Cyrus/more Sabrina? This doesn't look too reliant on supporters

>>58205349
I have the same question

>>58204724
A Dugtrio of Sunkern. I'm Jellicent

>>58205277
>same 3 meta decks
More like same meta deck, it's all fucking Suicune

The sprigatito card pose reminds me of that poodle who got mauled by a husky in that Korean cafe video

Did people already stop opening the newest set? It only showed up twice in my wonder picks this morning.

Are there any TCG mechanics you guys would want in Pocket / think would be a good fit

I haven’t played TCG ever but there are Stadiums in it that are essentially Field Spells, right? That could be cool

Add me if you enjoy wishlist & shop ticket trading

1037182488039739

>>58205417
Great Ball is for people who haven't gotten 2 Suicune yet are. It's all Darktine and Espeon.

Why hasn't anyone tried to put giratina in Espeon?

>>58204616
No, it' does not. Why would one thing interfere with the other?
The peek will happen soon.

>>58205601
What makes the Espeon deck so good is that every basic in the deck can evolve into it, and you have baby Sylveon as a potential nuke.

UNBEATABLE PERFORMANCE

>>58205607
What is the point of baby Espeon in the deck, I see a lot of people running that now

>>58205611
I don't know, I've never used that version. Probably to slow down the opponent's bench while being a low cost energy in a deck where everything takes 2.

>>58205610
to absolutely no one's surprise you can win games with gay decks like darktina

>>58205623
That actually makes sense because the biggest problem with the deck is that everything cost to energy and you're often going first

>>58205626
Going first has been an issue for me, but I'm not sure how much baby Espeon can do for that because it would be hitting for small amounts of damage in the early game and it wouldn't have the longevity of the EX.

>>58205611
To try (and fail) to beat the GOAT
>>58205610

>>58205611
It only costs one energy and has a massive surprise factor

>>58205629
Espeon has taken me to ub4, but despite several of my successes (10 minutes in streak in ub3) I'm noticing a lot of rough matchups just depending on how the game shakes out.
Espeon is incredibly consistent and I love that about it, but it does feel like particularly going first you tend to struggle and you have to kind of rely on your opponent not getting the cards they need for at least one turn

Luckily this is actually pretty likely to happen lmao, but it is rough because it feels like when you go first and the opponent gets exactly what they need you just simply get outpaced.

Something I learned about the deck the other day as well, if you have two Espeon and three energy attached between them you can heal 60 damage per turn by retreating one each turn on a sort of loop. I had someone do that to me in the mirror match and I had never considered it before

>>58205641
>10 minutes
That was supposed to say 10 wins

I'm still climbing ranked better with my old Silvally/Zeraora deck from the ultra beasts set than with current meta

>>58205652
Post brew? I was never able to get that deck to work
Did you update it at all with elemental switch?

>>58205655
I updated with one elemental switch. You could also swap Dawn with Silver.

>>58205677
I would rather swap dawn with an elemental switch

>>58205692
Yeah but Dawn also enable Silvally

>>58205692
Dawn can still be good in this deck specifically, because it boosts Silvally.

Just got all the different Zoroark event cards in a row, is it luck or scripted ?

>>58205349
Too waste their turn setting up energy

>>58205751
Luck. I got 2 Poliwag, 2 Zorua, a Tropius, and a Milotic.

>>58205248
No, I'm the Old Sea Map guy.

>>58205868
You are based can you post your fc

If they ever allow us to trade full arts I will trade you my budding explorer

>FINALLY get the cards for an espeon sylveon deck
>first 2 matches are guzzlord decks after spending an entire day NEVER encountering a guzz deck
thanks dena!

Daily reminder to never give up!
This match looked hopeless but I pulled it through. I had a weak start and thought that it was over, but then my opponent started doing poorly as well and I was able to pull out a win! Never concede!

>>58205933
Yeah guzz is tough but it's not common so don't fret about it, you just gotta move on, can't win em all
Grindcore does make me rage though

>>58205935
And remember, just because you can see a way that your opponent could easily win next turn, doesn't mean your opponent can execute it. Some of the people who play this game are imbeciles

This week I've pulled both 2* Raikou and have now pulled a second FA Whitney. I hope those of you that are my friends have seen at least some of these packs as wonderpicks. What is going on with this luck?

>>58206031
Add me please post your code

Tapu Koko ex seems criminally underrated right now , why isint it more popular?

>>58206048
I will probably stop pulling good cards but sure, why not. The time has probably come to unfriend inactive accounts with fun names in favor of active accounts. 9029397507319890

ninja turtle brew

>>58206065
Does it work

>>58205611
If you bump into Oricorio, you're walled to death unless you have an answer to it.

>>58206071
still testing. but it beat suininja and darktina but it had advantage. both were to the wire where I won by like 10hp

>>58206111
Baby Sylveon kills even if you just have 1 benched EX.

>>58206203
Yea, Espeon vs Sylveon baby is just a preference thing. Espeon has the potential to cuck an EX who's energy hungry, Sylveon has more consistency. Both are primarily there to answer Oricorio but can potentially bring surprise burst in niche scenarios.

>>58205611
base sylveon requires 2 energy investment on something that will likely die in one hit. base espeon only costs 1 so it can attack in situations where you just don't have the energy for base sylveon or another ex. going first, this scenario is pretty common.
ramp decks fear it as well, especially darktina who the sylveon variant has a pretty bad winrate into.

How do I improve this brew? The general concept around it is "I hate my life so you should hate yours too."

>>58206270
Gamble Tstareena.

>>58206270
no mars?

>>58206274
Yea but she doesn't make them discard...

>>58206276
Oh right, let me take away a Silver for her. Also forgot rare candies LOL.

Okay brewin. This will get me into Masterball tonight, trust. I was 1 win away from MB and went in a major tilt lose streak back to low UB4 so this will definitely tell everyone "I hate my life and you should hate yours too." May swap Erika for Mallow.

hit master ball with flareon ex/baby flareon. the deck is great, i love that you don't just get screwed if you're stuck leading eevee. feels like you always have a fighting chance instead of just losing turn 0 because you drew the wrong basic.
wish i could've played it sooner but the ho-oh pack refused to give me a single magby.

>>58206328
You got any extra flareons?

>won first match my shitty memebrew jumped into
...lol?

>>58206270
I love discard/ hand D decks. Been really trying to find a way to make Durant work

>>58206351
i assume you mean baby flareon? sorry but no, i had to trade for my second copy so i've only got the 2.

>>58206370
I'm missing one of each.

>>58206328
You mean this?
How does it do against all the suicune decks?

>>58206328
I still have never had good luck with that deck and it makes me sad, I like flareon

Whens the sneak peak event?

Any Zoroark brews or should I just use what the event deck is running?

>>58206516
There's no sneak peek for this set.

>>58206471
here's the list i used for the climb. it does pretty well into suicune actually, feels about 50/50. suicune giratina would be a problem if people would put their cape on tina, but on ladder they always put it on suicune and that's usually throwing the game. maybe they'll wise up later, but ladder tends to be full of retards so i doubt it.
i tried guzma but it feels like a dead card a lot of the time.

>>58206524
Holy fucking jew

What deck are you guys playing for the solo event?

>>58206515
It's not that hard to pilot once you see the vision

>>58206581
My ol' reliable Meowscarada+Decidueye ex deck, I just treat it like I'm fighting any other Darkrai deck.

>>58206118
You'd be better off pairing torterra with leafeon and lyra

>>58206462
if you need a flareon ex, i have a spare on one of my alts
i would appreciate garchomp, aerodactyl, or skarmory, but any ex is fine if you don't have a spare of any of those
2329231028831969

>>58206581

A cobbled together Tsareena/Shiinotic deck that also satisfies the "1 to 3 Diamond Pokemon Only" missions.

2 Morelull (MI)
2 Shiinotic (EC)
2 Bounsweet (CG)
2 Tsareena (EG)
2 Rare Candy
2 Leaf Cape
2 Professor's
2 Mallow
2 Silver
1 Sabrina
1 Cyrus

>>58206524
Wtf that art of phampy is from TL with rollout. How can they slap flail on it and not expect to confuse people

>>58206581
tsareena/meowscarada.
it's a good excuse to break out the FA mallow i never get to use.

>>58206538
Why not replace the GA Flareon with another Sylveon

>>58206538
I find this deck really hard to pilot. I always find myself wanting more heal or something like that because Flareon seems so slow to get up

can someone give me a good deck list for quickly autoing solo content, whether it's card drop events or new quests

>>58206060
90 damage isn't a great payoff for three energies if you can't invest those energies early and quickly.

>>58206616
>FA Mallow
Lucky

>>58206524
Oh great suicune in WP event

>>58206646
Realistically it's 90 for two because of how his first attack works

>>58206664
Just as soon as it stops being relevant.

Has anyone made a Melmetal deck with Memory Light yet? Debating between GA Melmetal or the newer one. Also considering one Skarmory EX as a backup/defensive option.

>>58206524
Every single fucking time it's the ex I found on day one

>>58206619
oricorio decks seem pretty good at threatening baby flareon right now, every bird deck has either arceus or luxray so i'm consistently glad to have two copies. it's also a really bad idea to clog your bench with two sylveon bricks, especially in a suicune meta. if you play both sylveon and magby doesn't go down you're kinda just fucked since you can't drop a second flareon.

>>58206695
I still don't have any.

:new threaD
>>58206709
>>58206709

>>58206609
>>58206616
>multiple 1* tsareena and Meowscarda
>only one 3 diamond of each
lmao fuck me

>>58206626
really? i find that flareon comes out fast in most games.
retreating eevee into magby is still energy-positive because flareon ex recycles the energy you retreated with, so it's rare to not have flareon ex out turn 4/5. you can also suicide baby eevee to dig for a flareon ex or magby if you really need to. even getting it out turn 6/7 and down 2 points is fine against a lot of decks because odds are if it took that long you have red/bag and flareon ex is going to clean house by itself.

>>58206048
>>58206061
I totally forgot to remove someone. I'm easily distracted, I apologize

>>58206581
Just Kickdown Tsareena with 15 Trainers
When I'm farming Expert for packs I use whatever decks I feel like for fun