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Lance is a conceptually weird idea to make a Champion because he was already usurped in the previous game. It's almost kind of mundane and realistic to have him retain his role while the two kids fucked off to do their own thing
Steven is a great Champion it's just he comes from a pretty dogshit region so he kind of reflects the worst traits it has. His team could only be so good being a "type specialist" even though it's obvious he's more of a mineral fan than just a Steel specialist. It's also one of the toughest fights I've had in recent memory because I didn't grind to take him down so it was actually pretty fun being nearly wiped out with my level 40s and just barely edging a win. No later game would ever give me that type of thrill
Most of their issues stem from early installment struggles though, I can forgive both of them for effectively setting the standard of what a real Champion should be like after the thematic parallel from Gen I. Diantha has no damn excuse, she was following like 7 Champions at that point