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Anonymous No.58220478 >>58220483 >>58220497 >>58221051 >>58226300
/ptsd/ - Pokémon the Series Discussion #5
True Love edition

/padt/ is completely dominated by Horizons chat. Talk about the 1,339 original series episodes and associated 23 movies here without butting into and disrupting the discussion of Horizons.

>Pokémon TV on YouTube:
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Anonymous No.58220483 >>58220490 >>58220503 >>58220864 >>58221827
>>58220478 (OP)
Alain? A god.
Anonymous No.58220490
>>58220483
Fraudinja KNEEL before Charizard
Anonymous No.58220497
>>58220478 (OP)
Long shot, but did anyone here ever save clips of those intermissions from the Twitch Pokemon Marathon many years ago?
>Duplica, that's ri~ight!
Anonymous No.58220503 >>58220624
>>58220483
Reminder that BEASTlain was the first non-champion to beat an Elite Four member on screen, and he did it after beating 9 other trainers back to back with no breaks. Holy FUARK how did anyone think TRash KEKchum was going to defeat him?
Anonymous No.58220595 >>58221872
Imagine being James. Your team-mates can retire being team-rocket grunts, but you can't because your family will force into a loveless marriage, thus you need to continue on travelling.
Anonymous No.58220624 >>58221056 >>58221202
>>58220503
>the first non-champion to beat an Elite Four member on screen
AHEM
Anonymous No.58220721 >>58220729 >>58220732 >>58220781 >>58221273 >>58222308 >>58222935 >>58222995
Writefag here. drop Ash x Girl ship here and ill see what i can do once im off work. Please keep it sane. I'll consider legendaries.
Anonymous No.58220729
>>58220721
Ash x Arceus
Consider the leaks when Arceus became a human woman.
Anonymous No.58220732
>>58220721
Ash x Female Ash
Anonymous No.58220781
>>58220721
Ash x BW Bianca
Anonymous No.58220835 >>58220844 >>58222740
Last thread ended a mess. The HorizonFags are seething
Anonymous No.58220844
>>58220835
I don't think someone losing his shit over Alain or aggressively downplaying every other character to hype Ash up is Horizonsfags seething.
Anonymous No.58220864 >>58221028
>>58220483
What was the endgame with Alain? Was he really meant to replace Ash in the later series? Was he just there to ruin XY and nothing else? Was he supposed to end up getting Ash's Greninja at some point? Why even introduce this character and hype him up if he's just going to job 6-0 to Leon anyway?
Anonymous No.58221001
>watching latest eps on Pokemon TV
>Gosling triggered without warning

As a wizard, I didn't ask for these feels
Anonymous No.58221028 >>58221055
>>58220864
Alain was there to promote Mega Evolution and be part of the anime's ORAS adaptation while Ash bumfucked around another region and its league for the 7th or 8th time with Contest Girl #3, some Gym Leader, and Gym Leader's sibling.
For whatever reason, they didn't want to give Ash a non-Gen 6 Pokémon, so we ended up with totally-not-a-Mega-Evolution-Ash-Greninja and that Bond Phenomenon bs between that and no Z version to advertise.
Anonymous No.58221051 >>58221484 >>58221998
>>58220478 (OP)
whats considered the objective "best" pokemon anime episode/movie to the elitists/anime snobs? the equivalent to a digimon episode 21 for example
Anonymous No.58221055 >>58221094
>>58221028
They could have easily brought back Ash's Charizard at any point between XY and Journeys and they chose not to for whatever reason. And if they needed Ash to just be the runner-up so he could go to school in Alola, Diantha was literally right there. Alain has zero reason to actually exist.
Anonymous No.58221056 >>58222242
>>58220624
Flint made people believe Elite Four members were untouchable Gods, but in reality most of them weren't THAT strong, it was just him.
Anonymous No.58221094
>>58221055
Not only Charizard, but also Heracross, Sceptile, and Glalie, maybe even his Gible if he evolved.
Would he also travelled to Hoenn sometime or would they dump a random Hoenn festival in Shalour City?
Anonymous No.58221168 >>58221822
Rank them by personality.
Anonymous No.58221202
>>58220624
Pokemon writing can be do fucking nonsensical at times. A few episodes later Aaron goes on to almost beating Cynthia. Not only that, Aaron defeated Cynthia's Garchomp.
Anonymous No.58221273 >>58224189
>>58220721
Ash x Sango
Anonymous No.58221402 >>58221588 >>58221600
In the end, did Satoshi ever get Masara town renamed Satoshi town?
Anonymous No.58221484
>>58221051
I like the third movie the best. I'm probably not a snob though.
Anonymous No.58221585
Too bad that we never seen things like old villain returns allies, like Colress reappear as a member of International Police and help Ash deal with another evil team.
Anonymous No.58221588
>>58221402
>ever get Masara town renamed
What?
Anonymous No.58221593
Too bad that we never seen things like old villain returns as allies, like Colress reappear as a member of International Police and help Ash deal with another evil team.
Anonymous No.58221600 >>58221603
>>58221402
Wasn't that just a thing from the novelization?
Anonymous No.58221603 >>58221645
>>58221600
It was the same writer as the anime, I assumed the plot thread might get taken up at some point once he became a "success"
Anonymous No.58221645 >>58221656
>>58221603
No, that was Shudo only and a lot of his ideas got retconned except the "Ash must lose". Like I think Delia hated Ash in the novels because he was a reminder of her mistake and why her dreams of being a designer or whatnot died
Anonymous No.58221656
>>58221645
Nah she didn't hate him, she was just sad her husband ran off, also as soon as he leaves she goes off and lives her own life. She was only like 27 in the book. Ash was a teen pregnancy.
Anonymous No.58221822
>>58221168
Personality: Dawn > Misty = May
Anonymous No.58221827
>>58220483
Anonymous No.58221872
>>58220595
There was literally nothing stopping James from leaving TR and roaming the world as a regular man other than maybe some mental issues that kept him around. James probably had codependency issues and might've been gaslit by Jessie and Meowth into thinking he wouldn't make it on his own.
Anonymous No.58221998
>>58221051
go west young meowth
Anonymous No.58222003 >>58222044
>third movie is up in YouTube
Is it a countdown?
Anonymous No.58222044 >>58222064
>>58222003
For what?
Anonymous No.58222064
>>58222044
I don't know, maybe a new movie or something
Anonymous No.58222242 >>58222429
>>58221056
>it was just him
You kidding me? Siebold has the best E4 performance in the anime, then probably Agatha whose Gengar was pretty darn OP and Caitlin for being able to stalemate Cynthia.
Anonymous No.58222308 >>58223640
>>58220721
Please
Anonymous No.58222429 >>58222442
>>58222242
The Alan that fought Siebold was not as strong as the one who fought Malva, and it was a pretty even match. So was Agatha vs. Ash despite him being an idiot and using Quick Attack. And that's where they tell us that the Frontier Brains are as strong as the Elite Four, and Ash beat them all, so...
Yeah, I completely forgot about Caitlin.
But still, nothing they did compares to Flint. That man one-shot all of Ash's mons when he was about to get his final badge and enter the League. Then his Infernape was throwing punches with Cynthia's Garchomp, like Caitlin's Gothitelle, but after defeating two of her Pokémon. And if you counts Journeys, he was the only E4 member to reach the Master 8, top 7. He was clearly written to be stronger than others E4
Anonymous No.58222436 >>58222482 >>58222574 >>58222599 >>58222701 >>58223311
Is he right?
Anonymous No.58222442
>>58222429
>Frontier Brains are as strong as the Elite Four
Do you know if it was an Elite 4 who said that or a Frontier Brain?
Anonymous No.58222482 >>58222946
>>58222436
Honestly the MC ending with some random mob girl is peak but the main heroine ending up with the MC's dad is its own tier
Anonymous No.58222497 >>58222508 >>58222521 >>58222972 >>58223875 >>58223904 >>58223961 >>58223977
If they ever make another anime movie starring Ash, what would you like it to be about?
Anonymous No.58222501 >>58222536
What makes Misty overrated?
Anonymous No.58222508 >>58223875
>>58222497
Him waking up from the coma dream and getting a real job.
Anonymous No.58222521 >>58222532 >>58222543 >>58222946 >>58223875 >>58223972
>>58222497
His and Serena's wedding.
Anonymous No.58222532 >>58222535
>>58222521
Ash already rejected her several times. It's not happening.
Anonymous No.58222535 >>58222538 >>58222674
>>58222532
Anonymous No.58222536 >>58222551
>>58222501
>didn't have a real goal
>was only good for scolding and insulting others
>most of her team was garbage
>only made good use of Gyarados in AG, aka when she wasn't a protagonist anymore
>she didn't even have a better team than her sisters
>the story tried to make her more special by giving her Togepi, which she ended up releasing anyways
>even for shipping shit, she sucked because her actions make it look more like she wanted Ash to be miserable than wanting to be loved by him
>what does she offer that Serena doesn't?
>heck, let's go further than that
>what does she offer that Dawn, Lillie, or any of the other female MCs don't?
>even more
>what does she offer that other girls that crushed on Ash don't? At least Anabel and Angie treated him with respect and had believable reasons to fall for him
Misty sucks.
Anonymous No.58222538 >>58222545
>>58222535
Anonymous No.58222543
>>58222521
That'd be nice.
Anonymous No.58222545 >>58222553
>>58222538
It's not healthy to still be this mad after so many years.
Anonymous No.58222551
>>58222536
>even for shipping shit, she sucked because her actions make it look more like she wanted Ash to be miserable than wanting to be loved by him
That's what happens when the entire idea of her crush was invented by the dubbers in the first place.
Anonymous No.58222553 >>58222701
>>58222545
Anonymous No.58222569 >>58222571 >>58222576 >>58222600 >>58222645 >>58222650 >>58222652 >>58222673
Someone sure is mad.

Reminder that this happened and your fanart didn't.
Anonymous No.58222571 >>58222579
>>58222569
She lost
Anonymous No.58222574 >>58222583 >>58222701
>>58222436
I know this is a troll post, but I'm going to answer it. Hell, NO. The Pokemon shipping community is bat shit insane. Not even Ash and Misty being canon would satisfy anyone.
Anonymous No.58222576
>>58222569
Still one of the top scenes in the entire anime.
Anonymous No.58222579 >>58222581 >>58222582
>>58222571
Serena is taller than Ash so at best it was a forehead kiss
Anonymous No.58222581 >>58222690
>>58222579
"Like Latias, but on the mouth".
Anonymous No.58222582
>>58222579
>Serena is taller than Ash
A bit redundant to say isn't it? The amount of characters shorter than Ash who aren't children can be counted on one hand with all 5 fingers chopped off.
Anonymous No.58222583
>>58222574
Why would some bonkers out of nowhere pairing like that satisfy anyone?
Anonymous No.58222585 >>58222589 >>58222601 >>58222610 >>58222612 >>58222613 >>58222636
I think it's funny that nobody can actually tells me how romance improves a piece of media rather than being intrinsically detrimental to it
Nobody will even admit to being the target audience of it, only latching onto romance if there's enough controversy to engagement farm with it
Anonymous No.58222589
>>58222585
Romance is cute.
Anonymous No.58222599
>>58222436
I really love Acerola in the anime. She comes across as somewhat aloof and even a bit more mature than other non-adult characters. It was really disappointing to play the games and find out she just looks and acts like a goofy kid.
Anonymous No.58222600
>>58222569
This scene was amazing, definitely saved XY after the Kalos league debacle. The reactions were incredible.
Anonymous No.58222601 >>58222610
>>58222585
Because it doesn't, the Arrow CW show was average but then they decided to shill Felicity the Mary Sue and it died
Anonymous No.58222610
>>58222585
>>58222601
It absolutely improved XY.
Anonymous No.58222612
>>58222585
It was the worst part for me so I'm relieved they just ignored it after. A romance with Ash just won't work if he's not going to act remotely in love
Anonymous No.58222613
>>58222585
>media illiterate thinks romance can't improve media
Romance only falls flat in the anime because they all have the personality depth of one ply toilet paper.
Anonymous No.58222617 >>58222621 >>58222623 >>58222636 >>58222646 >>58222660
>all these newfags that weren't around for XY and don't know how super popular the romance plot was
Embarrassing.
Anonymous No.58222621 >>58222624
>>58222617
>XY
>romance plot
Anonymous No.58222623 >>58222629
>>58222617
Amourfags put the square piece in the square hole. Frankly I feel second hand embarrassment for the people that genuinely thought something was going to happen.
Anonymous No.58222624 >>58222630
>>58222621
Yes, newfag-kun. I'm sorry you missed out.
Anonymous No.58222629
>>58222623
The absolute irony of using a fucking Misty avatar for a post like this
Anonymous No.58222630 >>58222632
>>58222624
If that was a romance plot then SM was a horror series.
Anonymous No.58222632 >>58222642
>>58222630
I'm sorry you missed out.
Anonymous No.58222636
>>58222585
>>58222617
There are two types of people who only watch pokemon
Anonymous No.58222638 >>58222643
shipperfags are mentally ill
Anonymous No.58222642 >>58222645
>>58222632
I feel sorry for you because nothing happened.
Anonymous No.58222643
>>58222638
Yeah. Romancefags are cool though.
Anonymous No.58222645 >>58222647
>>58222642
>>58222569
Anonymous No.58222646
>>58222617
Why would I give a shit if something is popular? Shipperfags are the loudest voice wherever they're welcomed but most of the time they're obsessed with trash
Anonymous No.58222647 >>58222652 >>58222671 >>58222680
>>58222645
Anonymous No.58222648
>He didn't follow all the clues and deduce that Bonnie and Goh were 100x more likely than either Misty or Serena if the show had competent writers.
Not gonna make it.
Anonymous No.58222650 >>58222658
>>58222569
I always thought that this scene was really tasteful. It is a beautiful way to show the kiss just with their feet.
Anonymous No.58222651 >>58222653 >>58222760 >>58222764
>Turbotism as soon as Shippingfaggotry gets brought up
>"Newfag", "you missed out" XY vs SM discourse
Jesus Christ, don't you fags have anything better to do than repeating the shitshow from the previous threads?
Anonymous No.58222652 >>58222657
>>58222647
This >>58222569 still happened no matter how many out of context clips and fanart you post.
Anonymous No.58222653 >>58222664
>>58222651
>XY vs SM discourse
Where?
Anonymous No.58222657
>>58222652
The part where Serena kissed Ash and he still left her? Yeah, that did happen.
Anonymous No.58222658
>>58222650
Yeah, it's a really good scene. It's impressive how they were able to use the forced censorship to great effect.
Anonymous No.58222660 >>58222666 >>58222668 >>58222670 >>58222671
>>58222617
Even the romance plot is like Naruto for people who don't like Naruto
Anonymous No.58222662 >>58222669
Remember when they brought misty back to end the show on?
Anonymous No.58222664 >>58222667
>>58222653
SMfags have a tendency to shit on Serena because she's from XY and they have a massive stick up their assess about everything XY related.
Anonymous No.58222666
>>58222660
>the romance plot is like Naruto
You wish that was the case.
Anonymous No.58222667
>>58222664
>shitting on Serena = SMfag
Anonymous No.58222668 >>58222677
>>58222660
At least Serena had an experienced Ash to lust over. Hinata liked Naruto from day 1 because "ummm he tries really hard" like uhm sorry Kishimoto sweetie that's not how it works.
Anonymous No.58222669
>>58222662
>an actual person drew this
I feel secondhand embarassment just looking at it. Wonder how much she cried over the kiss.
Anonymous No.58222670
>>58222660
and like naruto people get really pissy when you imply the writers just yank their chain for easy shipfag money
Anonymous No.58222671 >>58222673
>>58222660
Naruto got a whole movie while Amourfags got >>58222647
Anonymous No.58222673 >>58222682
>>58222671
Amourfags got >>58222569

I know how much that scene hurts you, but it still happened.
Anonymous No.58222674
>>58222535
Unrelated, but I love how many versions of this shit there are out there.
Anonymous No.58222677
>>58222668
She had xray vision and chose naruto. Sorry sweetie but Kishimoto was right
Anonymous No.58222680 >>58222681
>>58222647
I don't get it, do you autists think Serenafags disliked this episode or something? It was very well liked.
Anonymous No.58222681 >>58222684
>>58222680
Oh no, it's terminal
Anonymous No.58222682 >>58222685
>>58222673
Naruto got a movie to solidify his relationship and then got a kid.
Ash came across Serena once after XY and they didn't even mention the relationship. It's insane to people can even get invested in something the writers discarded without a second thought and compare it to actual relationships in other media
Anonymous No.58222684
>>58222681
...so you someone DID delude yourself into thinking this was a disliked episode? Explains why you keep spamming this clip I guess.
Anonymous No.58222685 >>58222690 >>58222695
>>58222682
Oh yeah? Well Serena gave an offscreen kiss that may have been on the cheek or forehead instead of the lips. Checkmate nardofag
Anonymous No.58222689 >>58222699
>>58217644
>Pokemon Go and Goh were a huge costly mistake
So true
Anonymous No.58222690 >>58222700 >>58222931
>>58222685
>an offscreen kiss that may have been on the cheek or forehead instead of the lips

>>58222581
Oops
Anonymous No.58222695 >>58222700
>>58222685
They literally said it was on the mouth.
Anonymous No.58222697 >>58222699
>>58217800
>SM was a mistake.
So true
Anonymous No.58222699 >>58222772
>>58222689
>>58222697
The show should've just ended after XY
Anonymous No.58222700 >>58222704 >>58222709
>>58222690
>>58222695
And Shudo said Lugia was a woman and the pokemon would rebel.
Oh wait
Anonymous No.58222701
>>58222553
Shipping wars shit aside, this image always gets a chuckle out of me.
>>58222436
Have to agree with >>58222574 no matter who Ash ended up with or if he even ended up with anyone, there would always be some form of shitstorm brought on by butthurt shipfags.
Anonymous No.58222702 >>58222725 >>58222730 >>58222736 >>58222774 >>58226001
Jesus christ shut the fuck up
What's your favorite Team Rocket Pokemon and which one would you change?
Anonymous No.58222704 >>58222710 >>58222780
>>58222700
Didn't executive meddling make Shudo go insane until he eventually died? Personally I would've liked to see the timeline where Lugia was female, I'm sure it would've been better than this one.
Anonymous No.58222707
>>58219333
>is concierge actually good or it is just cute fluff?
I liked it but I can see why someone wouldn't if it isn't their cup of tea
Anonymous No.58222709 >>58222720
>>58222700
>And Shudo said Lugia was a woman
No, he said he WANTED to have Lugia be a woman and got upset the director made it a man
>and the pokemon would rebel.
No, he said that was the endgame plot he had in mind but never used.

I'm not sure what kind of gotcha this is supposed to be.
Anonymous No.58222710
>>58222704
Basically. And I would've liked to see the timeline where Ash actually loved Serena just so our boy wouldn't retire a possibly gay virgin, but this isn't that timeline.
Anonymous No.58222711 >>58222825
>>58219603
>So, are these thread gonna be daily or just a "spawn on occasion" thing? Because looking at the ones so far, I can't say there's much point in making them daily.
Each thread so far has lasted for a few days.
Boobur No.58222715 >>58222719
124th for BOOBUR
Anonymous No.58222719 >>58222733
>>58222715
God I hate these subs, what the fuck is the point of going out of your way to ignore the official spellings?
Anonymous No.58222720 >>58222724 >>58222735 >>58222743
>>58222709
Thanks for proving my point that executive words are meaningless and what we see is all that matters.
Also I know your american education failed you but the cheeks are part of the mouth.
Anonymous No.58222724 >>58222732
>>58222720
This kind of denial isn't healthy anon
Anonymous No.58222725 >>58222736
>>58222702
Might be recency bias, but Mimikyu and Mareanie had amazing episodes. I remember Yanmega was really good too, it's still the one that comes to mind when I think of Yanmega at all.
I wish James met Gardenia again and got to hug his Cacnea/Cacturne
Anonymous No.58222730
>>58222702
Difficult to choose from one of James' pokemon, I always loved how attached they were to him and how much he loved them too despite how often they would hurt him while displaying said affection.
Bewear is also pretty high up there, loved its dynamic and relationship with TR.
Would probably change Morpeko, thing just wasn't that funny and was more of a hindrance than anything else and any TR pokemon prior to it.
Anonymous No.58222732 >>58222738 >>58222743
>>58222724
Boobur No.58222733
>>58222719
>what the fuck is the point of going out of your way to ignore the official spellings?
Who can decode the logic in the minds of mentally ill LGBTXZY!!++ furry trannies? Pic related is SOS Subs' translator and subtitler who did all of their Pokémon release singlehandedly.
Anonymous No.58222735 >>58222738
>>58222720
"Like with Latias, but on the mouth"
Anonymous No.58222736
>>58222702
>>58222725
Oh and for the second half, I'd say Morpeko too, the only thing it accomplished was making them miserable. Gacha was a mistake
Anonymous No.58222738 >>58222746
>>58222735
>>58222732
I'm so sorry anon.
Not that it really matters. Actually it would be even more sad if Ash was kissed on the lips and still rejected her.
Boobur No.58222740
>>58220835
>The HorizonFags are seething
Good
Anonymous No.58222743 >>58222750
>>58222720
>>58222732
Nigger they literally explained how censors wouldn't allow them to show the kiss on TV so it had to be obscured the way it was, unlike the Latias one.
Anonymous No.58222746 >>58222752
>>58222738
So you're implying Latias just kissed the air near his head or something?
Anonymous No.58222750 >>58222765
>>58222743
That's nice and all, but do you have any proof it was actually on the lips? Maybe a bit of tongue? Any marketer can imply it was on the lips to get shipfags excited.
Anonymous No.58222752
>>58222746
We're talking about Serena but Latias might not have kissed Ash at all since her human form was an illusion.
Anonymous No.58222754 >>58222769 >>58222770 >>58222781 >>58222783 >>58222973 >>58223467
Was there any fixing this character at all?
Hard mode: No genderswap
Anonymous No.58222755 >>58222789 >>58222791 >>58222793 >>58222797 >>58222868
This shipping discourse is so pointless. Ash has a type, and none of the main Pokegirls come close.
Serena would dye her hair and wear brown contacts if she wanted a chance.
Anonymous No.58222757
>Serena is still making autists damage control the kiss this hard nearly 10 years later
She truly was best girl.
Boobur No.58222760
>>58222651
Check the thread name. It's called /ptsd/ for a reason.
Anonymous No.58222764
>>58222651
Check the thread title. It's called /ptsd/ for a reason.
Anonymous No.58222765 >>58222777
>>58222750
Unfortunately for your damage control, the "marketer" in this case was the guy that directed the scene.
Anonymous No.58222769 >>58222776
>>58222754
By not dumpstering him unnecessarily. Max was giving Ash honestly good advice but the writers shat on him by having Ash brute force his way through everything anyways and then lecturing Max as if he's an idiot.
What was even the moral there? Work harder, not smarter? I guess that does fit the japanese mindset.
Anonymous No.58222770
>>58222754
No.
Anonymous No.58222772
>>58222699
So true, anon. So true.
Anonymous No.58222774
>>58222702
>What's your favorite Team Rocket Pokemon
victreebell
>which one would you change?
Let James take Growlie because the jennies use them so it would probably lead to interesting moments since they're criminals
Anonymous No.58222776 >>58222786
>>58222769
>What was even the moral there? Work harder, not smarter?
"Actual lived experience trumps theory", dumbass
Anonymous No.58222777
>>58222765
>he thinks directors and actors aren't part of marketing
Every public statement is part of marketing. It's why actors either shut up or shill.
Anonymous No.58222780
>>58222704
Executive meddling and olympic levels of alcoholism and prescription tablet abuse.
Anonymous No.58222781
>>58222754
Let him own his own pokemon and show up ash at some points but learn from him at others.
Anonymous No.58222783 >>58222788
>>58222754
>Hard mode:
That was unironically my answer until I read the spoiler lmao. I'd make him a bit more like Sawyer from XY in terms of personality. Cut out all the tropes of him being this annoying child and make him a more serious personality.
Anonymous No.58222785
>this retard is actually implying the director lies about what was meant to be going on in a scene for "marketing"
>before the scene had even aired on TV and anyone had even seen it and formed an opinion on it
Anonymous No.58222786
>>58222776
Except Max's advice wasn't impractical. This isn't street smarts vs book smarts, this was Max telling Ash to use water against fire and Ash laughing by giving himself 3rd degree burns to put out the fire with his bare hands. Like yeah, that's badass, but Max wasn't wrong and you're teaching the kid bad habits.
Anonymous No.58222788 >>58222794
>>58222783
Who the literal fuck is "Sawyer"?
Anonymous No.58222789
>>58222755
Anonymous No.58222791
>>58222755
There's a reason shipfags avoid talking about Giselle.
Anonymous No.58222793 >>58222812 >>58222836 >>58222848
>>58222755
He literally disliked her from the moment he met her.
Anonymous No.58222794 >>58222796 >>58222811
>>58222788
This little green nigger
Anonymous No.58222796 >>58222810
>>58222794
That's Shota.
Anonymous No.58222797 >>58222808
>>58222755
>Dominant type
+1 for Misty
Anonymous No.58222808 >>58222812 >>58222836 >>58222848
>>58222797
>thought she looked cute in a picture but changed his mind when he learned what her personality was like
Wouldn't that be a -1 for Misty since he was actively repulsed by her type?
Anonymous No.58222810 >>58222824
>>58222796
>That's Shota.
Anonymous No.58222811
>>58222794
>dubshit
Disgusting
Anonymous No.58222812 >>58222836 >>58222848
>>58222793
>>58222808
For some reason Gisellefags seem to have blocked the actual episode out of their minds and purely obsess over a blurb from a wiki entry.
Anonymous No.58222815
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RPzbBBqvs

No matter how hard I try, I cannot imagine Ash and Serena talking on the phone like Leon and Sonia. I can imagine Dawn, Misty, May, or Iris, but not Serena, despite her being Ash's childhood friend.

That is Amourshipping's true weakness , there is an invincible barrier between them, caused by Ash acting out of character and Serena being a submissive simp.
Anonymous No.58222819
Holy esl
Anonymous No.58222824 >>58222826
>>58222810
>unironically watching dubs
Anonymous No.58222825 >>58222834 >>58222837 >>58222842
>>58222711
Okay, I admit my retard ass didn't word things well enough, but I meant making a new thread as soon as the current one dies instead of waiting a few days or something before making a new one.
Anonymous No.58222826 >>58222833
>>58222824
>If you don't use every Japanese name you watched the dub

Behold the third world IQ
Anonymous No.58222833 >>58222843
>>58222826
>not watching dubs but still looking up dub names so you can call characters by weird names you've never known them as
Anonymous No.58222834 >>58222894
>>58222825
Don't worry about it anon. Why not make a new thread? There were 14 replies within an hour of the last thread being posted. Correct me if I'm wrong but none of these threads have died before reaching the bump limit. They are far more active than /padt/ is. It's not just one person making them either. There is clear desire and demand for this thread.
Anonymous No.58222836 >>58222854 >>58226911
>>58222793
>>58222808
He was just confused by feeling such strong sexual attraction for the first time.
>>58222812
At the end of the episode, he asks Misty "Why can't you and I be like that?" He wants a girl just like Giselle. He still thought about her as late as the Orange Islands.
Anonymous No.58222837
>>58222825
This thread was made by padt refuges, so the "must have a thread up at all times whether there's a point or not" spirit dies hard.
Anonymous No.58222842 >>58222851
>>58222825
>I'm not directly telling you the thread is shit, I'm your friend giving you advice, not to sabotage or anything
Anonymous No.58222843 >>58223350
>>58222833
Sorry anon from now on the new thread rule is we have to him Satoshi instead of Ash. You're also not allowed say Misty either, it's Kasumi. Better put that in the OP so we all remember hahaha
Anonymous No.58222848 >>58222852
>>58222793
>>58222808
>>58222812
Ash literally made this face after Giselle called the boy he was trying to help "an embarrassment to the whole school". She even continued to berate the boy and Ash didn't mind.
Ash only got upset when she implied that calculation levels and type matchups was all that mattered, because Ash is a power of friendship kinda guy.
Anonymous No.58222851 >>58222862 >>58222872
>>58222842
It has been very amusing seeing /padt/ types being very clearly unhappy with this general's mere existence. The tears are delicious.
Anonymous No.58222852
>>58222848
>mfw missing face
Anonymous No.58222854 >>58222875
>>58222836
>quoting dub lines
Anonymous No.58222862 >>58222872 >>58222874
>>58222851
/padt/ is cancer, but that doesn't mean this thread needs to be a 24/7 thing.
Anonymous No.58222868 >>58222885
>>58222755
Basically pigtail Serena with her open hair.
Anonymous No.58222872 >>58222879
>>58222862
>>58222851
But anons, this is a /padt/ thread. You're just undergoing another civil war just like JN's iris and cynthia wars.
Anonymous No.58222874
>>58222862
>/padt/ is cancer
Well we agree on that

>but that doesn't mean this thread needs to be a 24/7 thing.
Okay, you've already made your opinion clear and given that we can read we already undersand. If you want validation, to feel like you're being heard, then this post is your validation anon.
Anonymous No.58222875 >>58222891
>>58222854
Can't find anything about this line being any different in the JP version.
Anonymous No.58222879
>>58222872
>this is a /padt/ thread

Let's be real, /padt/ hasn't been /padt/ since SM.

Either way I don't really care. This general is clearly not going anywhere regardless of any upset its existence is causing. If it bothers you that much you can filter it along with the 100 quadrillion daily pornography threads.
Anonymous No.58222885 >>58222893
>>58222868
I never say this to anyone, but man, your "art" is so bad I'm begging you please switch to ai generation. You've been "drawing" these for over a decade now and you haven't improved.
Anonymous No.58222891
>>58222875
The original line is just "Wow, they're sure acting different than me and Kasumi".
Anonymous No.58222893
>>58222885
Stop being so jealous , I draw to test out various new idea that pops into my head so it does not matter what you think of me.
Anonymous No.58222894 >>58222916
>>58222834
>Correct me if I'm wrong but none of these threads have died before reaching the bump limit.
They haven't yeah, I honestly was just curious about what people thought about that.
Especially with all the schizo posting and shit flinging that have popped up, but to be honest I'm cool with this thread, the few moments of normal discussion have been pretty fun after all.
Anonymous No.58222916 >>58222974
>>58222894
Honestly I think you'll get better discussion by just making a thread about what you want to talk about when you want to talk about it instead of insisting on a permanent "talk about x topic that has no current material to talk about" general. There's no other thread like this on /vp/, all the other generals are for current shit that's constantly getting news and updates.
Anonymous No.58222931 >>58222934
>>58222690
Cope
Anonymous No.58222934 >>58222956
>>58222931
Fuck off already you autist.
Anonymous No.58222935 >>58222995 >>58223064
>>58220721
The twerp x Jessie
Anonymous No.58222946
>>58222482
>>58222521
Anonymous No.58222956 >>58222977
>>58222934
All of that because two cartoon characters kissed years ago.

lol. lmfao even
Anonymous No.58222972 >>58223041
>>58222497
No clue, but I want it to happen like 10+ years from now with an older Ash who shows up with a whole new team in whatever the current region is so it feels like a glimpse at the travels he's had after the series ended
Anonymous No.58222973
>>58222754
>Max needs "fixing"
Anonymous No.58222974
>>58222916
Concern troll. Noun.

>(Internet slang) Someone who posts to an Internet forum or newsgroup, claiming to share its goals while deliberately working against those goals, typically, by claiming "concern" about group plans to engage in productive activity, urging members instead to attempt some activity that would damage the group's credibility, or alternatively to abandon group projects entirely.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concern_troll

>A concern troll is someone who disingenuously visits sites of an opposing ideology to disrupt conversation by offering unwanted advice on how to solve problems which do not really exist. Topics of "concern" usually involve tactical use of rhetoric, site rules, or with more philosophical consistency. The concern troll's posts are almost exclusively intended to derail the normal functions of their targeted website.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll

>In an argument (usually a political debate), a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with "concerns". The idea behind this is that your opponents will take your arguments more seriously if they think you're an ally. Concern trolls who use fake identities are sometimes known as sockpuppets.
>A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=concern%20troll
Anonymous No.58222977
>>58222956
Yeah, the shipping community never recovered after Latias won.
Anonymous No.58222995 >>58223064
>>58220721
>>58222935

I second this. Ash x Jessie is a seriously underrated pairing.
Anonymous No.58222998
>they're still at it
Anonymous No.58223041 >>58223048
>>58222972
would be interesting to see people react to older ash with a raichu
Anonymous No.58223048
>>58223041
>Ash was retired because Pikachu evolved after finally overcame its trauma from Lt Surge's Raichu now that it was a world champion
it all makes sense
Anonymous No.58223064 >>58227243
>>58222935
>>58222995
I'd ship them for the stomach growls.
Anonymous No.58223067 >>58223071 >>58223145
So anyone knows what those flowers were supposed to mean? They really loved flower language
Anonymous No.58223071 >>58223089 >>58223145 >>58223190
>>58223067
In Japan, cherry blossoms are symbolic of feminine power, mystique and beauty. They herald the arrival of Spring and new life, much like the female ability to create new life.
Ash is pregnant with Pikachu's child.
Anonymous No.58223089
>>58223071
Based, they need to outbreed Leon and Jeeta's cousins
Anonymous No.58223145 >>58223168 >>58223190
>>58223067
They symbolize the beginning of a new chapter in life, not the autism this sperg was on about >>58223071
Anonymous No.58223168
>>58223145
I wasn't wrong you fucking stupid idiot american, the only thing I did was cherrypick (cwutididther?) feminine aspects of cherry blossoms in Japanese tradition in order to tie in the Ash being pregnant joke. Holy fuck americans are so american.
Anonymous No.58223190 >>58223207
>>58223071
>>58223145
So the endless summer day I read somewhere is finally over?
Anonymous No.58223207
>>58223190
It's only over because the man who insisted on that was finally told off.
Anonymous No.58223271 >>58223282 >>58225846 >>58226118
What was the moment you realized Ash would finally be retired?
For me, it was pic related. Two relatively obscure anime-exclusive characters returning for no real reason other than to throw a bone to older fans was a major sign.
Anonymous No.58223282 >>58223969
>>58223271
The moment the PWC was revealed and that Ash was competing in it. They wouldn't make up a world championship and have Ash take part just for him to lose in the end but if Ash wins then there's nothing left for him to do next gen.
Anonymous No.58223311
>>58222436
Pikachu won the Ash Bowl. He even winked at the camera when it happened.
Anonymous No.58223350 >>58223442
>>58222843
It's Satoshi-kun you faggot. Get it right.
Anonymous No.58223442
>>58223350
Honorifics like that imply some level of respect or endearment. Considering we're all adults and Ash is a 10 year old with the brain of a 5 year old, the most fitting would be Satoshi-tan.
Anonymous No.58223467
>>58222754
If they let the cast grow a bit older I could say him working extremely well as the ‘rookie’ archetype. It could have been interesting to see a group like Max, Bonnie and Ash.
Anonymous No.58223640 >>58223670
>>58222308
That one image of them NTRing Goh was great forgot the artist but he was the GOAT besto nip Satoshi self inserter
Anonymous No.58223670
>>58223640
did someone say ntr and Goh
Anonymous No.58223875
>>58222497
>If they ever make another anime movie starring Ash, what would you like it to be about?
Some final fight with Giovanni i guess, is the only think that is kinda a loose end

>>58222521
Cringe idea

>>58222508
Based idea
Anonymous No.58223904 >>58223945
>>58222497
Ash going under an alias, and mentoring a new trainer.
Anonymous No.58223945 >>58223963
>>58223904
Ash is what happens when something is burned with fire. His new dub name should be something similar to that, like a well-done steak, or maybe even Friede chicken.
Anonymous No.58223961
>>58222497
old man semi-retired Ash living the comfy gym leader life
his (and pikachu's) body is too old to be journeying any more
but his love of pokemon and respect for the young generation of new trainers starting off just like he did means he can't fully turn away form the game
being a gym leader suits him perfectly, he can still battle every day, while staying comfy in one place, and help young trainers on their journeys
Anonymous No.58223963
>>58223945
so ash is like a burnt offering? a 'holocaust', perhaps?
Anonymous No.58223969 >>58224036
>>58223282
>if Ash wins then there's nothing left for him to do next gen.
That's where you are wrong considering Ash fit much better in Horizons's premise than Roy.
Anonymous No.58223972
>>58222521
Based idea.
Anonymous No.58223977 >>58224050
>>58222497
Pokémon the Movie : AZ , focus on AZ finally find redemption after meeting Ash and co. There will be a rematch between Ash and Alain where Ash wins to draw audiences into watching the movie. A post credit scene will show timeskip AZ and Emma discussing Rakulium indicating their future involvement on Pokémon Horizons.
Anonymous No.58224036 >>58224293
>>58223969
>considering Ash fit much better in Horizons's premise than Roy.
>"Hey kid! Wanna join my crew to follow the steps of some legendary hero?"
>Nah fuck off, Imma do my own thing
Anonymous No.58224050
>>58223977
>AZ finally find redemption
Retard.
Anonymous No.58224189 >>58224196
>>58221273
>Sango
>their pitiful attempt at making a more regular "Ann"
Ann is still way better. Why couldn't they just make Ann a regular? Fuck Horizons
Anonymous No.58224196
>>58224189
Anonymous No.58224293 >>58224424 >>58224853
>>58224036
> Hey lets shove a Mega Lucario on Roy and insist he reached same level as JN Ash OFFSCREEN without the growth and character development that Ash had to reach that level.

Ash is a person who always help people even if they are complete strangers. If he sees a girl like Liko and Terapagos being targeted by bad guys than he will immediately join RVT to protect them. In fact many episodes and movies are about Ash trying to help people.

Its not like Chairman Rose who screwing the present to protect people on 1000 years in future. Ash ain't Alain who mindlessly follows a shady business man and do whatever he says without questions.
Anonymous No.58224388 >>58224405 >>58224441
Writefag here. thanks for the suggestion, im working on them as we speak.
Does anyone know a good website to upload fics? I don't want to clog the board with green text and AO3 wants me to wait a week before i can make an account.
Anonymous No.58224405 >>58224436
>>58224388
There is a general for fanfics on this board 24/7 and you haven't thought of asking them?

Jesus christ, this is lazier than you fags screenshotting the Youtube tab instead of right-clicking to save the current frrame.
Anonymous No.58224424 >>58224816
>>58224293
It doesn’t even make sense when Pokemon has actively tried moving away from the standard league format.
>SM
Trial Captains. Ultra Beasts. The league is just pushed in at the last moment.
>SS
League, sure but no Elite Four. The format completely differs in structure indicating further experimentation.
>Arceus
No league. Focused on researching and catching pokemon and solving mysteries.
>SV
Has a league, sure, but blends it with the entire school environment and a more bizarre plot.
>Z-A
No league to my knowledge. More about solving mysteries and a crisis.

Pokemon games are essentially becoming more and more like the movies in structure so Ash would work perfectly fine. We have had those AU movies with him just going around cities and getting involved in major events. No reason to not do that.

The natural purpose behind swapping MCs, which I agree with, is being able to change your character focus and explore different storylines. By having a different MC you open up story possibilities, themes, developments, etc that would otherwise never occur with someone like Ash. Issue is that Horizons doesn’t seem to do anything with Liko or Roy that actually makes them stand out so it makes them uninteresting beyond Liko being a girl.

Classical comparisons would be Digimon and Yugioh. Later protagonists aren’t like Taichi or Yugi and that means exploring new ideas with character writing. This is especially clear in Yugioh. Yugi, Judai, Yusei, Yuma, Yuya, Yusaku are all very distinct in what they experience and develop as MCs.

If Pokemon was going to go the route it has (Both games storylines/structure and Horizons) then there really wasn’t a point to changing MCs. They clearly had no actual ideas for something new.
Anonymous No.58224436
>>58224405
Im fic writing for this board anon, so im letting the anons who inputted know that im working on their requests while also asking a question. But thanks for the direction, ill ask there too.
Anonymous No.58224441
>>58224388
Just wait the week
Anonymous No.58224816
>>58224424
>The natural purpose behind swapping MCs, which I agree with, is being able to change your character focus and explore different storylines. By having a different MC you open up story possibilities, themes, developments, etc that would otherwise never occur with someone like Ash

Swapping protagonists suits short, standalone, plot-driven anime with under 100 episodes per season. However, it's unsuitable for long-running, character-driven anime with over 1,000 episodes, where the protagonist defines the show's identity. At best, Ash could step down but should remain in some capacity, like Cynthia's role in the DP series.
Anonymous No.58224849 >>58224956 >>58225518
SERENA WON
AMOUR WON
BASED CANON LOVE
Anonymous No.58224853 >>58224898
>>58224293
>he will immediately join RVT to protect them
Not really? He would help of course but he won't join, he didn't join Project Mew because it was Goh's business
Anonymous No.58224898
>>58224853
>He would help of course but he won't join
Please , he would have joined them just like he joined the Marina Group on movie 09. In fact there are lots of similarity between movie 09 and pre-timeskip Pokemon Horizons series.

>he didn't join Project Mew because it was Goh's business
He did not joined because he wasn't invited and he had Master cup final during Goh's final project Mew mission.
Anonymous No.58224956 >>58225518
>>58224849
>there are people that still haven't accepted this
Anonymous No.58225126 >>58225552
How would fans react if Ash said this today?
Anonymous No.58225518
>>58224956
>>58224849
Whenever I think of a FUN Pokémon anime where Ash has a strong heroine as a love interest, Dawn comes to mind first, not Serena. At best, I can compromise with Serena because she is prettier than Dawn, but for a ship that brings the same charm & craziness as the original series, Pearlshipping stands out. Unless the anime changes Ash and Serena's dynamic to build genuine closeness, their XY series dynamic feels superficial.
Anonymous No.58225552
>>58225126
Ash has always been stupid, pic related in the other hand
Anonymous No.58225582 >>58225861 >>58226448
I love power of us, I tried to watch some other movies but they don’t hit the same, I doubt horizons will either considering that it kinda strikes me as kiddy. I hope they make another movie like it someday.
Anonymous No.58225846 >>58225853
>>58223271
When they created roy
Anonymous No.58225853
>>58225846
*gou sorry
Anonymous No.58225861 >>58225875
>>58225582
Movies are dead, they killed it because were flopping and other series like doraemon conan were getting better box office lol kimetsu no yaiba dethroning coco broke them too lol
Anonymous No.58225875 >>58225897 >>58225898 >>58225968 >>58225984
>>58225861
Movies aren't dead, Detective Pikachu was a success. People stopped caring about anipoke movies because people stopped caring about anipoke.
Anonymous No.58225881 >>58225893 >>58225926
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMIaFV4q6M&pp=ygUOZ3VuZGFtIGdxdXV1dXg%3D
> Ash : A city with the area of 105.4 km2 & population of 2.048 million going though urban redevelopment plan to be a place for human & pokemon. But under all those light , there are darkness not many know or wants to know.
> Ash : A Battle Royal where you rank up to make a wish come true?
> Naveen : No decent person should enter Z-A Battle Royal
> Emma : I am Emma
> Ash : I am ....... Ash Ketchum
> Mimi : Nyann
> Ash : Thats so cute
> AZ : Hey boy, want try Z-A Battle Royal?
> Jett : Don't involve kids, they might get killed
> Vinnie : They are still children
> Corbeau: Z-A battle Royal is life and death brat
> AZ: : Its a Battle Royal on Battle Zone at night where you defeat enough opponents to earn point and rank up
> Emma : Did you see otherside?
> Ash : Trust me, we will win.
> Rotomdex: zzzzzzt don't underestimate Ash zzzzzzt .
> Ash : Wanna enter Z-A Royal Together?
> Emma : Mimi is saying ......... fight.
> Greninja battle multiple pokemon.
> Ash runs and jump to another building
> AZ : That kid can understand the innate feelings of those rouge pokémon, he might be our true ace
> Ash : I have gotta fight..... or lose
> Ash : EMMA
> Emma : ASH
> Ash : GWAHHHHHHHH
> Pokémon The series : ZA
> Ash : What does this city hiding?

My idea for an Ashnime.
Anonymous No.58225893 >>58225907
>>58225881
Your idea is to rip off a shonen? You do realize that the Ashnime is a kodomo right? You don't understand why people love Ash.
Anonymous No.58225897 >>58225913
>>58225875
>Detective Pikachu was a success
It really wasn't, Sonic mogged it and Legendary decided to go with their Monsterverse than to do the sequel that was announced before the final numbers.
Anonymous No.58225898 >>58225932
>>58225875
>People stopped caring about anipoke movies because
Because they were nothing to see, Ash does not catch new pokemon and defeat new rival. He only watch other legendary pokemon do thing.

Imagine a trilogy on Ash's Paldea journey where he would catch & evolve new pokemon, defeat rivals like Nemona and Alain and deal with various crisis.
Anonymous No.58225907
>>58225893
> Your idea is to rip off a shonen?
> Gundam
> Shonen
You didn't actually read it, do you?
Anonymous No.58225913
>>58225897
>X did better than Y so that means Y did bad!
If that was how it worked then everyone would be out of business right now after Silksong skong'd all over them.
Anonymous No.58225926 >>58225940
>>58225881
Sounds like shit and you're getting that in october anyways just without Ash
Anonymous No.58225932 >>58225966
>>58225898
>Because they were nothing to see
Exactly. Nobody cared about anipoke anymore because there's nothing to see.
Anonymous No.58225940 >>58225962
>>58225926
>anyways just without Ash
It will never work without Ash.
Anonymous No.58225962 >>58225970
>>58225940
My local Panda Express is working without Ash. Do you have any comments on that?
Anonymous No.58225966 >>58225971
>>58225932
Because people does not watch anipoke for plot. they watch anipoke for Ash to catch new pokemon and battle with them. Just like people watch Dragonball for Goku to get new transformation, technique or fusion to defeat a new threat. The pokemon movie does not has them and tries to push more deeper story. OLM is too freaking idealistic and does not understand this simple fact that nobody cares about their deep story.

Plot of the movie is never important because you need people to watch the freaking thing before they judge the story. That's why successful movie need something to draw audience like Ryan Ronald voicing Pikachu.
Anonymous No.58225968 >>58225974 >>58225979
>>58225875
>People stopped caring about anipoke movies
Anipoke movies would still be around had Sugimori and Iwao not seethed at the one pitch they were given.
Anonymous No.58225970
>>58225962
>My local Panda Express
What is that again?
Anonymous No.58225971 >>58225981
>>58225966
>they watch anipoke for Ash to catch new pokemon and battle with them
Goh is better if all you care about is catching and battling.

You don't understand why people love Ash and it shows.
Anonymous No.58225974
>>58225968
> Lets make a move about suicide for children.
No wonder it got scrapped.
Anonymous No.58225979
>>58225968
>had Sugimori and Iwao not seethed at the one pitch they were given
Didn't they seethe about Liko's legendary bloodline too? Because that stayed anyways, I think it was mostly because a DLC does the same job AND gets them even more money
Anonymous No.58225981 >>58225986
>>58225971
>Goh is better if all you care about is catching and battling.
Nobody cares about Goh, his goal to catch Mew or he weeping over his loneliness despite never making any actual effort to make friends.
Anonymous No.58225984 >>58225991
>>58225875
Detective pikachu flopped in japan
Anonymous No.58225986 >>58225999
>>58225981
>Nobody cares about
Ash catching pokemon or a wannabe shonen protagonist. They care about Ash being Ash.
Anonymous No.58225991 >>58226025
>>58225984
Off course it did , they watched the Japanese dub instead of English dub that had Ryan Ronald.
Anonymous No.58225996 >>58226009
Even mario movie did better, pokemon animation is cursed people already have that bad image of Pokemon anime, they retired ash but was too late lol
Anonymous No.58225999 >>58226018
>>58225986
>Ash catching pokemon or a wannabe shonen protagonist.
Nice try but people care more about Ash catching five pokemon than Goh catching a random pokemon in almost every episode.
Anonymous No.58226001
>>58222702
I think Mareanie and Mimikyu tie for my favourites, they're both funny for different reasons and I feel like they had the most character of all the rocket pokemon.
Arbok, Seviper, Victreebel and Gourgeist are way up there too.

Change is easily, EASILY that fucking shitty Morpeko, it would either be rewritten entirely (not to mention actually fucking used to fight) or just not happen at all. Holy fuck, what a bad note to end them on.
Anonymous No.58226009 >>58226046
>>58225996
So? Detective Pikachu still successfully turned a profit and helped them push even more merch. The only movies that flopped were the Ashnime ones since just like you the writers didn't understand what made Ash Ash.
Anonymous No.58226018 >>58226042
>>58225999
>five pokemon
And that's all. Ash isn't Goh, he's not built for catching them all or fighting like a shonen protagonist. Ash is a kodomo he is not meant to be a mary sue like Alan.
Anonymous No.58226023 >>58226035
Ash is ded, let him rest
Anonymous No.58226025
>>58225991
I honestly would have loved Jason Statham as Pikachu, never liked Reynolds
Anonymous No.58226035
>>58226023
He's not dead he's retired. There's a difference.
Anonymous No.58226042 >>58226054
>>58226018
>And that's all.
That all that matter because they were all caught by Ash while nobody cares about anything Goh caught. In fact /padt/ would have been on hype mode if it was Ash's Dragonite that mega evolves instead of Uruto pulling a Dragonite out of nowhere & mega evolves it without even forming a bond.
Anonymous No.58226046
>>58226009
The fact that nobody noticed the parallel between Rakulium and R proves nobody even remember Detective Pikachu movie.
Anonymous No.58226054 >>58226058
>>58226042
Ash is not a mary sue like Uroto, if he's going to mega evolve anything it's going to be something funny like Hawlucha. You don't understand why people like Ash you just want Ash to be a mary sue edgelord like Alan.
Anonymous No.58226058 >>58226073
>>58226054
>if he's going to mega evolve anything it's going to be something funny like Hawlucha
Or something that has a strong bond with him like his Dragonite.
Anonymous No.58226063
Anipokeflop
Anonymous No.58226073 >>58226271
>>58226058
So you want Ash to be a mary sue edgelord like Alan instead of a kodomo.
Anonymous No.58226118
>>58223271
Butch and Cassidy returning was the absolute bare minimum. This wasn't anything special. It was like a one minute appearance. Journeys was not made for US.
Anonymous No.58226271 >>58226310
>>58226073
I want him to get what he actually deserves based on his merit.
Anonymous No.58226300
>>58220478 (OP)
i miss the hand drawn animation cels era of anime there's this charm they got that modern anime lacks idk if it's just the blown up resolution or slapping a billion special effects on the screen desu
Anonymous No.58226310 >>58226465
>>58226271
He deserves to be his own character instead of a mary sue edgelord cheap knockoff of Alan.
Anonymous No.58226448 >>58226477 >>58227233
>>58225582
>power of us
I always wondered if that was a power of one reference since its the second in the (failed) new movie canon
Anonymous No.58226465 >>58226471
>>58226310
>He deserves to be his own character
That's why Ash deserved Mega Dragonite which he caught and train.
Anonymous No.58226471 >>58226610
>>58226465
Only chuuni self inserters think a mary sue dragon fits Ash better than his friend Hawlucha.
Anonymous No.58226477
>>58226448
I'm pretty sure that was the point, yes.
Anonymous No.58226610 >>58226615
>>58226471
>a mary sue dragon
No but a cute derpy dragon that hugs everybody fits Ash which is something true Ashfags know.
Anonymous No.58226615 >>58226732
>>58226610
No you said Mega Dragonite because you wanted to copy the mary sue chuuni edgelord Uroto. You are not a real Ash fan you just want to self insert.
Anonymous No.58226625 >>58226641
Someday some dedicated autist is going to remake Ash's story from Gen 1-8 into a cohesive work. Guarantee it.
Anonymous No.58226641 >>58226651
>>58226625
I would like to know how different it would be without Yuyama's finger pressing him down at every chance
Anonymous No.58226651 >>58226667
>>58226641
Yuyama's the only reason Ash ever got anywhere.
Anonymous No.58226667
>>58226651
Sure thing Famon, sure thing
Anonymous No.58226732 >>58226739
>>58226615
Nope, I said Mega Dragonite because Ash deserves it more than Uruto who didn't even raised Dragonite.
Anonymous No.58226739 >>58226742
>>58226732
Ash is not a mary sue chuuni like Uroto. If you want mary sue chuuni go back to watching Alan episodes on XY.
Anonymous No.58226742 >>58226753
>>58226739
>Ash is not a mary sue chuuni like Uroto
Because Ash earned his Dragonite while Uruto got handed one.
Anonymous No.58226753 >>58226791
>>58226742
Nope you just want Ash to be like Uroto because you want to self insert as a mary sue and are jealous of Uroto.
Anonymous No.58226791 >>58226899
>>58226753
>Nope you just want Ash to be like Uroto
Why would I want Ash to be like a newbie that gets a Dragonite handed to him?
Anonymous No.58226807
Anyone here will watch the Ash vs Yugi Death Battle?
Anonymous No.58226899
>>58226791
Please you just want Ash to be like Uroto but Ash is a kodomo not a shonen like Uroto.
Anonymous No.58226911 >>58226939
>>58222836
>Only 2 of these characters ever came back
That's one of the things I hate the most about the Anime. I was expecting Giselle and AJ to be in the Pokemon League. So many cotd with great designs that just disappear into the void.
Anonymous No.58226939
>>58226911
Shit like this is why people slowly stopped watching. Literally nothing mattered. DP and XY are considered the best seasons and they're the only ones that put any weight behind side characters and rivals.
Anonymous No.58227204 >>58227214
Ash sometimes has trouble with the context of a conversation. Is he autistic?
Anonymous No.58227214 >>58227368
>>58227204
Not autistic, just very very very very very very dumb.
Anonymous No.58227233
>>58226448
It's dubshit referencing other dubshit, so I doubt there was more thought put into it that "hurr durr both movies feature Lugia let's give them titles that are easy to mix up".
Anonymous No.58227243
>>58223064
The kinks one finds on this site...
Anonymous No.58227252 >>58227261
What's your pitch for an adult Ash movie?
Anonymous No.58227261
>>58227252
>adult Ash
Does not compute. Ash's character is literally incapable of growing older or starring in something serious.
Anonymous No.58227287
Begging for a Pokémon series that successfully appeals to older audiences is a lost cause anyway. If you want that so much, write a fanfic and pray to Arceus that you don't mess everyone's characterizations up (not that the official products do better).
Anonymous No.58227368
>>58227214
Just like me! :3