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>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>58184161

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA

Still no card art OP...

>>58244075
Cry more.

Counter catch can eat shit when it rotates next year. It just enforces people playing chicken because you're punished so unbelievably for taking the first knock out

Bwos...?

>>58244639
Yes?

This card is growing on me. I think if your deck struggles with Budew, this might be worth a slot.

>>58245511
I saw some people playing it in zard but I don't know if that helps the pult match up at all

wish the fat fuck went outside before dying
need that motherfucking early prerelease info
fat fucking piece of shit

10th for a spiky!
>>58245600
geez man chill out, why don't you fill in his shoes instead?

>>58245920
>Not fat
>I touch grass
>I don't own 50 cats
Nah, I'm not a basement dweller like that fay fuck was

>>58245938
ok then stop complaining we have no prerelease lists

>>58246011
>complaining
Oh no, someone's mad I'm on topic
anyway, back to jerking off pichu
try not to let the thread die again

>>58246049
The last thread hit bump limit you whiny retard.

Lusamine Boss when

>>58246976
You mean Guzma boss

I just wanna build cool 2010 decks but gardevoir is such a fucking spoil sport

I will preface by saying that I don't really know shit about the TCG and therefore may be wrong in my initial premise, but it seems like in this game an "archetype" is like 15 cards and the other 45 cards in your deck are pretty much the same as every other meta deck. Has that always been the case, or have there been metas where top decks are actually meaningfully different from each other?

>>58251928
There are universal truths to the game; having playable cards in your hand is always good, hence why every deck runs Prof. research
I'd say a quarter of the deck is meta cards like that, a ball of some kind and Fez, most decks do run specific trainers, tera decks using tera orb, grass decks running bug catcher's kit, etc.
Of course 10 or so cards are just energy too

We smokin that torb pack tonight, boys

>>58252716
whiffed the win by a single card

Deserved loss. Gardiechads stay winning.

no munki but 4 candies in pult is cool but I think the frankfurt match shows you need some sort of tool hate in the deck. either tower or scrapper. charm is just always a huge problem for board wiping. there were turns tord could have wiped out multiple mons but charm completely denies that.

only rotation can save us

>>58252716
Turd could've been champion. But he was a coward who lost faith Gardy after 2023. Now he'll never win again and will become just a fat joke playing in Chinese tournaments

>>58251928
Every card game has staples.

>>58251928
>energies
>draw support
>cards to search directly for what you need (there's a term fro this from magic or yugioh I believe but I forgor)
>type/mechanic specific trainers
>support 'mons (extra damage, apply weakness, prevent abilities, etc)
>attack 'mons
this is basically what every decks has

>>58251928

the top two worlds lists share like 21 cards, so this isn't really the case

>>58251928
>and the other 45 cards in your deck are pretty much the same as every other meta deck
Consistency matters if you want a deck to be good. Most decks are built the same because that's what works. If you need more "originality" in your deck, play GLC.

>>58253805
People love complaining about meta decks being the way they are, but can never seem to grasp why consistency matters.

>>58254110
Because consistency is a dirty word to shitters. When decks are consistent, games come down to what you're playing and how well you're playing it, which means losses are a reflection of skill or a lack thereof.

I love playing the same exact game over and over and over.

>>58254556
Don’t play then.

>trained like a dog by repeating the same game over and over for months and that makes you skilled
LMAO. We cant have too much variance in a card game else anon cannot keep up and wont be skilled anymore.

>variance
In other words, you want le xD randumb to decide games. Play Hearthstone.

>>58254556
Play a new game then, retard

Play rogue deck

The meta is just going to become mega charizard x vs mega charizard x soon
No other decks will get to be played
No other megas will get to be played
Only charizard is capable of one shotting another charizard. It's modern day mewtwo wars

>>58255498
As an Arch player I'm worried, it actually fares well against Typhlosian though

>>58254556
As a returning player this is a massive trvth nvke
You see it in many games, especially fucking card games

>>58255498
I think pult noir still wins the prize race against mega zard even if they play the psyduck.

Thoughts about your queen Gardevoir?

>390 HP mega charizard
fun

>>58257298

still dies to my walking wake

>>58257237
Motherphucking kneel.

>>58250228
I wish we could go back to deltas and the og ex era

Does anyone else fucking hate Ghouldengo

>>58257904
I dislike it because it's a deck that best represents all people's misgivings of what playing PTCG is actually like. Zero thought goes into any of the plays; draw 4+ cards a turn and swing into the active. Hand control doesn't exist, just draw more cards.

>>58257980
I've been out of the meta awhile. What deck does good into it? Last deck I played was Flareon x Sylveon

>>58257992
Typhlosion and Flareon because they hit for weakness; and Charizard because it can hit for weakness and Burning Darkness eventually scales into oneshot numbers for free while they need 7 energy to oneshot you. Charizard can also search for Iono every turn with Pidgeot to try and screw them out of finding Superior.

>>58258091
Any decks from destined rivals doing well? Rockets pokemon?

>Any decks from destined rivals doing well?
lol
>Rockets pokemon?
lmao

>>58258101
Grimmsnarl is probably a tier 2 deck, Ho-oh Armarouge box is a fringe deck, Cynthias Garchomp might have some potential next set with the upcoming fighting support.

>>58258149
Garchomp's issue isn't that it doesn't hit for big enough numbers; it's that it has no real secondary draw engine. You get all your Cynthia's cards out of the deck with Gabites, and then what? You're stuck either drawing 1 a turn or committing your Garchomp's attack for a meager 100 damage (let's be generous and say you have two Roserade on board, so 160) to refill your hand.

>>58258104
Hey you can't blame me for asking

>>58258149
What about the weezing meme deck

reprint it

>>58258997
or you know just change the rules..
would also fix the timer issue that forces ties

>>58259447
>change the rules
Don't like the rules?
Play a new game, dummy!

>>58259546
I'm so sick of seeing you post.

>>58259747
I'm sick of you trying to change the rules to your enjoyment.

>>58259447
why print earthen vessel when we could just adopt pocket's energy system? why do we randomize our decks and brick when we could just tailor make our opening hands? why aren't we all just playing chess?

>>58259798
>>58259801
We used to play support and can attack on the first turn why did they change that.

>>58259801
energy is like mana in magic, you still have to find it
prize cards are genuinely flawed. even if they keep prize cards we should at least be able to prize check before the game starts. people spend 2-3 minutes just deck searching to prizecheck once the game has begun, it wastes too much time. matches already tend to go overtime and force ties so it's a needless step they could easily fix by letting you check your prize cards before shuffling them

When I went to a prerelease for Mega Evolution, the Judge on hand stated that Vitality Forest can't be used to evolve a grass basic into stage 1 and then immediately into a stage 2. Same judge also ruled that Meganium's ability can't be used to increase the attack power of Exeggutor's 2nd attack.
How do I tell successful tell a judge that they're wrong without being booted from the venue? A seniors division player lost the only match he could've won because of said rulings.

>>58261290
But he's right

>>58261290
Inform them I guess? As long as you're not a douche about it assuming they're a decent human it should be fine. Not knowing vitality ruling is pretty important for them to learn and be corrected on
Vitality only prevents evos on your turn1. After that it's instant evos forever. Even though the wording is kind of confusing on the card, making it seem like the turn you play each basic
Exeggutor states energy like hydrapple, so any amping effects buff it like you said. Just tell them it wouldn't work if it said energy CARDs attached. Similar to cinccino

BROS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYd1p-_BwvU

>>58261376
I should've pulled out an image of Forest of Giant Plants to show them that Vitality Forest has the same wording save for the first turn rule.
I couldn't convince them they were incorrect about the amplifying effects of Exeggutor and Meganium. They assumed that attached grass energy must mean attached cards. There was a Centiskorch that had the same wording as Meganium's ability, but I don't have TCGLive on my phone so I was unable to prove the effect.

>Boundless Power
>Has clearly defined bounds

can anyone explain to me why I've seen multiple sickos playing gholdengo/kangaskhan with giant cape in the past couple of days?

>>58262579
probably matching vs the same noob. nothing like that was played in frankfurt. unless some youtuber made a video using them

>>58261290
>>58261508
open a ticket on pokemon dot com
these lame ass judges will never learn if we do not report them

>>58263407
Me with Flareon at the very bottom

>>58263407
Ghouldengo was a mistake
Hilarious that when he came out he was slept on

>>58263476
Genesect IS the mistake

hate dingus cause of that faggot europoor

>>58263476

it was slept on because it was dogshit doodoo

>>58263476
It was released during a meta that had mew vmax and lost box. It didn't have much of a chance.

>>58263957
With champions being the eternal competitve game, they could print shit like this, vmaxes etc again as cards couldn't they.. that's worrying

dead thread, shit game. nothing new on the horizon to look forward to because Tardizard gets its way again.

You guys have to admit, the energy zone in Pocket is better than having energy cards in your deck, right?

I've never really played the real TCG, energy cards were one of the biggest things that gave me the ick.

>>58266229
>I've never really played the real TCG
Put that at the top next time so people know not to read your posts.

>>58266245
My opinion is still fucking valid until you prove otherwise.

there was literally no point in your post, you just said you don't like something that you've never tried before

you just typed nothing and now you want people weigh in on your nothing take

the only thing I gleaned from your posts so far is that you are very likely on the spectrum

>>58266264
Can you just defend energy cards? You know a simulated energy zone would be better, comeon.

Are you just defending energy cards because hew thing bad?

>>58266254
>My opinion is still fucking valid until you prove otherwise.
Go back to bluesky, tuckjob. No one here is going to tell you that your shit opinion on something you know nothing about is "valid". You prefer one thing over something you have no real experience with, so your opinion means nothing.

>>58266306
>seethed so hard he had to go post about it in another thread AND link it back here

Ban Munki
Ban Gardevoir
Ban Budew
Ban Dragapult
Ban Dusknoir
Thank me later

I just wanted to have a fun conversation about an energy zone in the TCG. But whatever, change = bad. I'll try again next week.

>>58266352
It's never just as simple as adopting Pocket's energy zone. PTCG is designed around the energy mechanic as it is now, the same way Pocket was designed around the energy zone. If you changed the former to resemble the latter, that means a massive overhaul in card design

Glad homie got himself a new game to play.
Maybe you should stay there and not comeback!

>>58266352
Did you really want to have a conversation when you lead off by saying you've never tried it? Sure energy zone is nice because you never miss an energy when you're playing mono energy; it's shit when when you have to play more than one type. Then there's special energies that have different effects and conditions. There's nothing wrong with having to draw energy when the deck is 60 cards with cards that search/attach energy and supporters/support pokemon that can draw you 10+ cards a turn. It's another resource and deck building decision to think about, it's literally a different game.

>>58266352
>I just wanted to have a fun conversation about an energy zone in the TCG
No, you didn't. You came in here and started off by acting like your opinion was fact, and when people didn't agree with you, you immediately got hostile. You needed everyone to agree with you and tell you how valid and right you were, and when that didn't happen, you ran to the other thread to bitch about it.

>>58266352
>I'll try again next week.
Please don't.

>>58267182
So why'd this thing get banned from Expanded anyway?

lol
lmao even

>>58267184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9ME0u4brc

>>58267210
not them but it still makes no sense why it got banned. it's not a turn1 donk. it's turn2. they've only banned stuff prior due to turn1 fuckery, not after that. every relevant deck in expanded can turn2 win, even regidrago cheats an extra turn with dialga before you can get your own turn2

>>58267225
Win speed isn't the only factor in expanded bans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WxusZfcgnw
You need 35 cards in hand to win, but the combo here only draws 15 per turn. Unown damage was also a turn 2 donk deck that got banned. Baby Trio is another turn 2 donk deck but it isn't banned because the combo is too easy for an opponent to disrupt unlike unown and flapple.

>>58267316
What's baby trio

>>58267324
Put 16 energy on FCO mew with Electrode-GX, wipe the opponent's board, then copy Tapu-Lele-GX to attack for 320 damage.

>>58267316
>>58267324
>>58267332
I should mention that if they ever print a new stage 1 that can copy basic attacks, baby trio would probably get banned. That would let you use a single electrode to get 4 reversal and 2 counter energy into play to use the attack. As of now, you would need counter gain / dark patch and hitting a 75% heads flip twice on Liepard. Getting to only give up 2 prizes for an instant win is much more oppressive than requiring 5 prizes remaining to use your combo.

oh brother...

Could they get away with reprinting this ability again? Stage2s are destroyed by item lock spam we have so it probably would be fine I imagine? It's akin to togekiss and that doesn't see much play

>>58267560
Maybe with a limiter, like "If you have no Mega Pokemon in play"

>>58267778
I'd like to see more limiter cards like that and greens. Not just payoff cards like area 0, what about limiting your deck for stronger pay off cards like greens

Has the Clamperl deck seen any genuine use or is it just a meme combo?

dead thread
dead meta
dead game
someone beat me to the bump dammit

>Wish for a new meta
>Get mega charizard x mirror meta soon
The monkey paw curls..

Water Mega?
His favorite

>>58270371
*fire*

So we should be getting stuff about the next set soonish right

>>58270201
Zard counter is already printed. 4 card combo of stage 1 + ignition + stadium.

>>58270410
Fuck off, my favorite move

>Discard 4 basic fire from hand or this attack fails
Could be decent for Ceruledge, or as its own deck with Ceruledge as a finisher.

>Shuffle this pokemon and all attached cards into deck
Pretty high damage for a hit and run attack. Don't even need a backup basic with vitality forest.

https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/09/inferno-x-all-80-main-set-cards-revealed

Urshifu's attack + shred. Boring. There is a Linoone that has Rush In if you have a Mega in play, but he has a retreat cost of 1 so you need Balloon.

Search your deck for a basic, a stage 1, and a stage 2.

Rabsca's ability on a stadium. Utter Dragapult destruction.

If you have a Darkness mega in play, this attack does 240. With Mega Gengar, he's a 0 prizer, and Toxtricity makes him easy to power up. Seems really strong and better than Sharpedo.

>>58270445
Now this is a game changer.

Ability blocks all attack effects. Attack reduces damage by 60. Really bad.

>>58270445
You gotta be fucking kidding me. They really just don't want you playing anything that isn't Gardevoir, lmao. Game is so ass.

>>58270465
It blocks Scream Tail so it's a nerf to Gardy too.

Hits itself for 60. Good single prizer for Mega Zard.

>>58270467
*changes to Drifloon*
*literally already runs Stadiums to bump it and Secret Box to find them*
WAOW, fucking nothing.

Round gets another attacker if anyone in the world is playing it.

>>58270467
I think it blocks pult's attack and munki's ability but not scream tail.

>>58270467
If it's actually worded like Rabsca's ability then it doesn't prevent damage from attacks. Dragapult places damage counters.

Snipes 20 per energy attached, I guess a tech for Venusaur and Meganium but not very good.

where are these new cards posted?
what is the JP site I should follow for new card reveals?

>>58270443
Mega Venusaur should be good if not cock block by that Zard X

cute

>40 damage for each damage counter on each of your Pokémon with Tauros in its name

If only Gapejaw Bog were still legal, this could get silly.

>>58270566
It is legal. 240 damage for one energy on a basic is cool but probably too inconsistent to be good.

>>58270443
I'm surprised it's taken this long for the game protagonists to get their own Supporters, but I'm glad they're finally doing it.

>>58270457
>could've been top tier to counter charizard if it was water
>NOPE metal get cooked (literally)

water attackers/support is going to be the new grass type isnt it? where they refuse to print anything because it counters charizard lol

>>58270676
Palafin would be amazing in the next format but he's rotating.

>>58270445
>>58270482
>gimp dragapult into obliteration
>gimp gardevoir and grimmsnarl and every other deck using munki
bros... it really is going to be charizard x wars isn't it..

>>58270689
Iono's Raging Bolt will save us

>>58270689
Seviper/Toxtricity/Mega Gengar looks more formidable desu.

>>58270685
Mega greninjas upcoming but with greninja's gimmick being snipe damage I can genuinely see it not being able to attack the active, and if it can it wont be enough to 1hko for weakness.. Just like tera greninja, hitting the active with a snipe attack like that for weakness wont ever 1hko 360 HP
Bax is rotating too, it's concerning how little water support and attackers are available now, even before rotation

>>58270700
Serviper with TMs looks funny
>220 blindside snipes
>400 crisis punch

>>58270482
Fuck munkidori.

>>58270711
All the TMs are rotating except the shitty tera ones.

>>58270711
Will be around for an expansion or 2 at least, but yeah post rotation is guarantee all charizard at this rate considering they just neutered dragapult, the only other meta surviving deck

"STOP PLAYING DRAGAPULT, STOP PLAYING DUSKNOIR, FUCK OFF, FUCK OFF, FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

forced troonvoir slop meta

Oh geez a stadium that stop me from placing damage counter?
Oh noo what am I going to do with this another stadium card on my hand?

>>58270794
Gardevoir relies a lot on scream tail and munkidori.

>>58270794
When do they print a "Put 30 damage counters on the defending Pokémon. If it would be knocked out by less than that, put the remaining on your Benched Pokémon"?

>>58270813
This doesn't affect Scream Tail. Scream Tail doesn't "place" damage counters. The attack does damage.

It also doesn't stop Munki from moving damage to the active, lmfao

>>58270794
I commissioned gamefreak to print it. My arrival will be told throughout history

>>58270794
>everyone plays Fuck Off Card on release
>deck stops seeing play
>everyone stops using Fuck Off Card
>deck comes back once the coast is clear
It happens every time they make something like this.

>>58270865
True, happened with mew and lost box
though this ones more universal than countering 1 deck. munki is run everywhere(but will get reduced due to dragapult being nerfed) and dusknoir is still an important math fixer
the only good stadium soon is jamming tower or rockets watch tower, artazan, town store, pokemon hq all rotate so there's not really good options for stadium wars

The more I think about Seviper/Toxtricity the more I like it. I don't even know what you run, in addition to the core Seviper/Toxtricity/Mega Gengar/Fez package you have:

>Pecharunt ex + Mochi
>Yveltal
>both Hydreigon exs
>Kingambit so Seviper can hit 300 with bangle
>Munkies to move the damage counters off
>Gengar ex for energy trolling
>Mega Absol ex

That's a huge mass of playable cards, I bet the deck is better than Charizard. The deck only fears Gabite and Riolu once rotation hits.

>>58270865
except this fuck off card is a clear counter to not just the second best deck in the format, but also arguably the best CARD in the format, played in anything that can afford to run it + dark energy

Working on a tcg fangame and developing some gimmick decks for the story mode and while looking for cards to max out poison damage I stumbled upon this absolute nonsense. Is it actually as broken as it seems or am I just misinterpreting it somehow, because I don't even remember it existing, let alone seeing play?

>>58270894
You just lose to iono or dead drawing unless you can fez. You're not gonna have enough draw to continuously cycle your attackers+energy into deck for toxtricity

>>58270711

TMs won’t get the damage boost

>>58270431
Does this with Ignition Energy shuffle the energy back into the deck before it gets discarded? Or does the energy still get discarded?

How long will Dawn eng release take?

>>58271573
It all gets shuffled

Mega lopunny could be pretty good. Fan rotom is broken and lets the deck fly pretty low to the ground.

>>58271487
Ability is sevipers attacks, the same wording that allows cramorant to use TMs for free. It doesn't even have the clause of only boosting it vs your opponent's active, so blindside hitting the bench is boosted.

>>58271736
Hitting 230 seems great in theory like archaludon but that's not going to keep up any more in mega HP meta. Arch has already fallen off due to not being able to deal with ghold/gardy/pult HP.
Gale thrust worked on urshifu because it also had a good second attack follow up, lopunny's is just filler

>>58272563

archaludon had success at times because it could abuse low hp bench sitters while avoiding being one shot, this is going to be similar given that meta comes around again

>>58272798
It's also that Arch doesn't need much at all to get going. Get a couple Duraludon down, dump your Metals, then all you need the rest of the game is Ultra Ball, Night Stretcher, and Boss.

>>58272811

mega lopunny takes even less, somehow

I think the bigger deal is that you can fan rotom early and avoid putting out lopunny at all until your opponent challenges you to. Arch needed to find the entire poison package to take early KOs without offering up a two prizer.

>>58272798
>given that meta comes around again
Most are rotating, it's basically just fez left. And if any decks will bother using ogerpon still after raging bolt loses sada. If your entire game plan is gust spamming how do you win if your opponent doesn't put any liabilities on board, it's why arch was abusable, you know they're capped on damage and can force them to waste an attack

>>58272918

decks do not function when they do not have draw support in play

>>58272920
>What is dudun, drakloak, lunatone
Even zoroark and kanga are out of lopunny range. They'll always print more draw engines too, it's not always going to be fez only
Like you're missing the fact archaludon struggled by not hitting enough before in a meta that had a lot of 190-220 mons. And now we're moving into a meta of mostly 300-360 HP pokemon, 230 isn't going to cut it

>>58272951

It's going to be fez, ogerpons, and other low hp 2 prizers for a couple of decks. If they grows, so will lopunny's potential. Like I'm painting an ideal picture for the card and you're saying it's not going to be ideal. Sure. And 230 is not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. So many games are ended right now with bear and boss. It's good enough.

>>58272983
Ogerpons wont exist after raging bolt dies. Charizard is going to cook venusaur/hydrapple from ever existing
I forgot about latias if people still want to use that as a pivot, but air balloon is generally better as most decks are evolution now
>bear and boss
because bear doesn't need any resources, it's a basic you drop and attack with. lopunny at minimum still needs to evolve, before needing an energy and needing to move from the bench, so you can't promote bunneary after a ko. they're nothing alike
lopunnies current comparison is more closer to yanmenga and you can see that already has problems switching enough and lacking damage. and oh btw jet energy also rotates so lopunny doesn't get to enjoy that for long. if yanmega is struggling even with that and having utility energy moving after the attack what goods lopunny for

>>58273019

Ogerpon had 4 top 4s last weekend and only one of them was in raging bolt. Energy acceleration and draw one is pretty strong. Charizard is fucking ass and I have no idea why anyone is hyping up a big 3 prizer that has little 2 prizers on the bench. Who cares if you can't knock it out, there are free prizes littered all over their field. Lopunny has a rush in bench sitter to fulfill it's requirement every turn, findable via fan rotom, so it's nothing at all like yanmega.

>>58270966
do you mean the ability or gx attack?

>>58273159
The GX attack. The ability is just why I found it.

>>58273259
all ultra beasts have effects that interact with prizes, that's their gimmick
I'm not sure if this one was used, but I do recall some others in use during that era

>>58273328
Horrifying. The "x damage for y prize cards taken" effects don't seem too bad, but some of these are just insane.

>>58270966
The gx attack is used once per game.
Seems strong but keep in mind it does no damage and so you waste turns with it basically if the opponent can ko your nihilego next turn, which will probably happen by the time you have the energy to use the attack in the first place. So it might as well say "when THIS nihilego is ko'd, your opponent takes no prize cards".
Which again isn't terrible but it doesn't advance your board state

>>58273468
>So it might as well say
That completely shifts my perspective on it. I was just looking at the idea of your opponent needing to do 4/3 the work for the same win. I suppose then kartana would be substantially more powerful despite affecting half as many prize cards. Granted, I already recognized it was powerful, but fixating on the raw numbers it didn't seem as good at first.

>>58272828
I hate Pokemon fans. We deserve what Gamefreak does to us.

>>58273635
now get a load of THIS

>>58273078
Ogerpon decks lose a lot to rotation like nest ball and earthen vessel, I don't really see them sticking around once raging bolt loses sada
Yanmega can fulfil the requirement easily too with air balloon(and jet), you don't need a rush in mon it's a waste of space, especially not a stage1

I don't see the potential in lopunny, it's just a different flavor of mega camerupt and that's not doing well either

>>58273775
I think this is objectively worse

>>58273819
you still get -1 prize card, you might get lucky and accelerate energy, discarding it isnt too bad considering how many things to recover discarded cards there are out ther

>>58273827
Or you get lucky with kartana because you actually draw the prize card

>>58273831
ye but the point is not having to use the turn attachment

Battlepass is lucario and gardevoir. which was to be expected honestly
they don't show what SIRs etc you get though anymore

https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/mega-latias-ex-and-more-new-cards-from-the-pokemon-tcg-mega-evolution-expansion

>>58273782
Was wondering why the rulebox didn't say anything about using the prevo's moves, but apparently I'm getting my gimmicks mixed up.

>>58273981
Lvl x and BREAK can use pre-evos moves, they do state that they can also. All the other rulebox gimmicks are technically their own evolution/pokemon, so they can't use prevo moves without something like celebi or relicanth abilities

>>58273998
Neat. I forgot gen 6 had soulboost as a second gimmick.

>TrainerTV is back
Shit Im so old...

It's sad he's gone still but the king got to live his dream..

Tried to make my own Zekrom deck only to realize there is already a pre-made Zekrom deck in TCG Live
Thoughts?

>>58274899
my only thought is why

https://rk9.gg/pairings/PT01klFH0Nj5f17R5myQ

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standings/0000171/masters/

>>58275572
Why not?

>>58274815
well only half a year of gardevoir left..

>>58270482
>Lets you remove 3 damage counters with munki still
>Can't place them on opponents bench though
How buggy will live be? Will it force you to put it on their active or will munki do nothing?

>>58276830
If you declared that you're using Munki's ability while that Stadium is up, you would literally be forced to put the counters on the Active because that's still a viable target, so Live would be correct if it did that. Try actually thinking about your plays before you make them instead of being a pavement ape who just hits buttons.

>>58277076
but card glow why not use? not use card that glow??

>>58277076
No
You can move it to mons protected, the damage counters will just vanish tho. There's already a ruling for this
https://compendium.pokegym.net/ruling/79/

It's exactly like if you just bench damage snipe a manaphy or tera, you CAN but it's not gonna do anything.