Thread 58395541

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Venusaur: Sludge Wave
Blastoise: Iron Head
Beedrill: Bug Buzz, Lunge
Clefable: Air Slash
Victreebel: Toxic Spikes
Slowbro (Galarian): Fire Punch, Thunder Punch
Gengar: Shadow Sneak
Starmie: Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Self-Destruct, Safeguard, Bulk Up, Heal Block, Zen Headbutt
Pinsir: Lunge, Aerial Ace
Gyarados: Dragon Rush
Vaporeon: Taunt
Flareon: Flame Wheel, Swords Dance, Taunt
Dragonite: Whirlwind

>>58395541 (OP)
Pure (Yoga) Power it is

Meganium: Leaf Blade, Earth Power, Dazzling Gleam
Ampharos: Flash Cannon
Espeon: Heal Block, Safeguard
Umbreon: Knock Off
Heracross: Outrage

>Vaporeon gets taunt
What did they mean by this

>>58395541 (OP)
Bulk Up Starmie makes sense given its physical focused Mega, but is also hilarious. The rest of the additions are all pretty logical, Explosion in particular seems like the sort of thing it would've had since Gen 1.

SD Flame Wheel Flareon. Not gonna be competitive or anything, but its a solid enough set up to use for fun.

>>58395541 (OP)
>swords dance flareon
uh, based department?

Sableye: Night Slash, Parting Shot
Mawile: Dazzling Gleam
Medicham: Agility
Banette: Slash

NASTY PLOT GRENINJA

>>58395541 (OP)
>Beedrill: Bug Buzz
Wow, i'm glad they Gave mega Beedrill some Special moves to use his 45 SPA

>>58395560
>not only did meganium cuck sceptile for tropius, it also got leaf blade while sceptile isn't even in the game
Now this is a humiliation ritual.

Lopunny: Mach Punch, Draining Kiss, Cotton Guard, Dynamic Punch, Swords Dance
Leafeon: Taunt
Glaceon: Taunt
Froslass: Phantom Force, Heal Block, Nasty Plot

Emboar gets Volt Tackle trust

>>58395565
mesugaki

>>58395541 (OP)
>Giga Drain Pangoro
Nani the fuck

>>58395606
>swords dance mega lopunny
what the actual fucking shit dude

Emboar: Flame Wheel
Watchog: Double-Edge, Endure
Simisage: Endure
Simisear: Flame Wheel, Endure
Simipour: Endure, Liquidation, Flip Turn
Excadrill: Megahorn, Agility
Scolipede: U-turn, Gunk Shot
Krookodile: Iron Head
Scrafty: Parting Shot, Dynamic Punch
Garbodor: Poison Jab, Bullet Seed, Heal Block
Eelektross: Waterfall
Chandelure: Flame Wheel, Heal Block

>aurorus didn't get anything new to make up for losing ancient power, meteor beam, aurora veil, nature power, weather ball, etc.
We need a Final Solution to the Game Freak Question.

>>58395641
>Scrafty: Parting Shot
Oh fuck

>>58395641
Annendum

Stunfisk: Iron Defense, Crunch, Ice Fang, Flash Cannon

>>58395541 (OP)
>Gyarados: Dragon Rush
Th-thanks

>>58395541 (OP)
Mega Scrafty better have one of hell of a new ability, because so far its just more stats added to it.

>>58395641
>Excadrill with megahorn
Neat

>>58395585
>priority parting shot

>>58395675
>priority parting shot into allied defiant annihilape
>switch in incineroar to intimidate the enemy mons
uh oh

>>58395675
Already exists with grimmsnarl and is not even good

>>58395641
Parting Shot on Scrafty is a fucking insane addition in the long run

>>58395641
Scrafty may actually be back in VGC
Not mega Scrafty, but base scrafty. Parting Shot + Coaching + Intimidate is pretty useful for a pivot guy

>>58395560
Knock off Umbreon finna be based

>>58395560
Someone tried to say Meganium only got disarming voice as a fairy move

The biggest winners are Starmie, Lopunny, and Scrafty
Scolipede actually gets a lot from gunk shot too

Chesnaught: Growth
Greninja: Nasty Plot, Psyshock, Flip Turn
Talonflame: Whirlwind, Flame Wheel
Vivillon: Whirlwind, Dazzling Gleam
Pyroar: Earth Power
Floette-Eternal: Draining Kiss, Hyper Beam, Light Screen
Gogoat: Megahorn
Pangoro: Giga Drain
Furfrou: Crunch, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, Endure, Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, Ice Fang
Meowstic: Heal Block, Wish, Spikes, Taunt, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock
Aegislash: Zen Headbutt
Aromatisse: Heal Block, Hypnosis
Slurpuff: Swords Dance
Malamar: Close Combat, Bulk Up, Heal Block, Poison Jab, Zen Headbutt, Stealth Rock
Barbaracle: Close Combat, Waterfall
Dragalge: Poison Jab
Heliolisk: Morning Sun
Sylveon: Taunt
Hawlucha: Air Slash
Carbink: Self-Destruct
Goodra: Giga Drain
Goodra-Hisui: Iron Defense
Klefki: Future Sight
Trevenant: Heal Block
Gourgeist: Hypnosis, Fire Spin, Self-Destruct, Shadow Claw
Avalugg-Hisui: Hydro Pump
Yveltal: Heal Block
Zygarde: Iron Head
Hoopa: Heal Block

Drampa: Body Slam, Whirlwind, Earth Power

>>58395750
>Greninja: Nasty Plot, Psyshock, Flip Turn
O DAMN

>>58395718
Scraggy does this better

>>58395750
>Pangoro: Giga Drain
…but why?

>>58395750
>nothing for aurorus and tyrantrum
The Pokemon world would've been a better place if Volo used Giratina to kill Arceus.

>>58395750
Surprised malamar didn't learn poison jab already

>>58395780
they're not in the game bro

>>58395772
Because he sucks

wait so starmie is an actual physical mon with what is implied to be huge power?

>>58395844
Yes

But more likely Pure Power (called Yoga Power in Japanese) or a "new" ability with the same effect

>>58395844
It still has 130 SPA, you can run it however you want

>>58395844
Yes it is. If it keeps the 100 attack in Champions with Huge Power, it can get to 600+ attack with everything factored in which is very nice. Having Bulk up, recovery, and special options since your special isn't particularly bad either is also a good sign for it. The only downside is that it doesn't have anything (iirc) that hits steels very hard but perhaps that'll change with Champions. I believe in total Starmie domination.

>>58395844
Mega Starmie has +140 Atk instead of the usual +100, which other Pokemon with Huge Power on their Megas received since there's no abilities in this game.

>>58395541 (OP)
Physical Starmie is more jarring than the model itself

>All Eevolutions get taunt
I'm waiting for the cheeky brat that needs correction Eevolution porn

>>58395718
It also has fake out
I want to cope too since I life Scrafty, but that fairy weakness really hurts on a support mon

>>58395989
The idea that Starmie can now just run Flip Turn and actually DEAL damage if not one shot something feels surreal for some reason.

>>58395560
>Umbreon: Knock Off

can Umbreon finally go up a tier now?

>>58395750
Delphox didn't get shit huh, that's crazy

>>58396440
Yeah neither did Feraligatr. Really painful.

Interesting that Heal Block seems to be more widely sprinkled across Pokemon here. They must have thought it'd be a more useful tool in real-time battles than turn-based ones.

>>58395750
>Pyroar: Earth Power
Hell yeah.

>>58396536
You don't need anything else with Dragon Dance + reliable recovery in the form of Drain Punch. Fuck off crocodile

>>58396958
Delphox movepool is good already too