Thread 58442293

Will people speak with their wallets this time around, though?

a pokegirl thread died for this

>>58442293 (OP)
that'll be 10 million sales in 3 days
pokecattle loves to eat shit

I feel like recent stunts by Game Freak have really poisoned the well.
ZA is the first genuinely fun new Pokemon game in years, but people want to hate it because let's face it, Game Freak fucking sucks and it's hard to admit nowadays when they do something right, and Nintendo also fucking sucks and prices the games far too high. I can't even blame anybody for feeling this way, because there's a good reason for it. Hell, I almost feel guilty for enjoying the hell out of ZA.

>>58442293 (OP)
>metacritic users
>buying games

>>58442293 (OP)
I thought it was pretty good.

>>58442299
yeah, but it was the Dawn's thread, so Op is practically a hero, Dawniggers can't even be considered human.

>>58442336
This.
>He fell for the chud meme that people are actually unhappy with critics.
They aren't.

It's good. I think it's just retard thinking they're cool for shitting on everything Game freak does because it's tied to Nintendo and it's now cool to hate on everythingthey do.

>>58442360
this

>>58442319
Making a single mainline game bomb only ONCE has overall positive effects in the long run, anon. I don't like ZA because of the shitty pricing for a game that is shorter than its predecessor, has mechanics that are redundant in the majority of battles, shows technical weaknesses on a stronger console and has one of the worst online practices overall for fomo content.

With a number for their supposed budget of the games now known (Which you can multiply by atleast times two for marketing material and investment), it provides the means to effectively cause a blow to the Pokemon that forces them to get their shit together.

Especially highlighting the next gen, which is the 10th gen and if they're going there then it would be the 30th anniversary game. Imagine the ripple and the effort to not repeat the same mistakes they'll inevitably do if their anniversary game and the milestone of their IP is a commercial failure. They'd have to get some of the sticks out of their asses.

And of course I can see the typical "YOU'LL BU IT ANYWAY" to shutdown any points in a petty manner but think about it:
>Every problem that is usually getting drowned out by the rabid fanboys or dismissed by accusations of not being a "true" Pokemon fan can be backed by factual numbers
>Any social media campaign attempt to cocksuck the Pokemon company or Gamefreak with another #thankyougamefreak would be worthless since, again, their games didn't do the cuts
>The devs and other departments would be forced to be more open-minded to outsiders
>Endless meme potential at the expense of the cult-tier buyers who will worsen the problem with their lowkey toxic positivity attitude.
>Any attempts at censorship of criticism can be screenshotted and to drive a bigger wedge, potentially further alienating potential new consumers from buying again which is the biggest blow they could experience
(1/2)

>332 ratings
Shitty visual novel porn games on steam have more reviews and from actual paying customers

(2/2)
If gamefreak makes gen 10 and the mainline entry is objectively the worst pokemon game ever from a objective perspective but exceeds sales then it will forever cement their complacency with those successes while the most avid defenders will always flaunt the "You don't matter" cards

BUT and this is important, they don't make the money back and the game flops then every excuse will effectively have dried up and the IP is now a free target for anyone to voice their grievances without someone passive-aggressively shutting them down with the sales numbers.

Think of BDSP's reception. Horrible remakes and the average response is just "Alright I heard you now let's move on to something else". Imagine that but on a bigger scale because of the 10th gen and anniversary stigma. The only way everyone involved with making Pokemon could recover from is only making adjustments that are a net plus for THE PLAYERS.

>>58442373
>>58442395
No I'm with you on this. I like ZA but I'm no shill. I just wish this happened with like, any other mainline Pokemon title before this.
Of all the recent Pokemon titles to bomb like shit it should've been one that was actually bad, because every single mainline Pokemon game on Switch up until now genuinely has been attrocious
For once they took more steps forward than backward and NOW is when the fans decide they've had it? Like yeah the game's far from perfect (and the fomo shit is pretty fucking vile) but for once it's actually really fun, especially compared to shit like SWSH, PLA, BDSP and SV
Fuck Game Freak and all, they're getting what they had coming, I just wish it happened sooner

>>58442373
(2/2)
If gamefreak makes gen 10 and the mainline entry is objectively the worst pokemon game ever from a objective perspective but exceeds sales then it will forever cement their complacency with those successes while the most avid defenders will always flaunt the "You don't matter" cards

BUT and this is important, they don't make the money back and the game flops then every excuse will effectively have dried up and the IP is now a free target for anyone to voice their grievances without someone passive-aggressively shutting them down with the sales numbers.

Think of BDSP's reception. Horrible remakes and the average response is just "Alright I heard you now let's move on to something else". Imagine that but on a bigger scale because of the 10th gen and anniversary stigma. The only way everyone involved with making Pokemon could recover from is only making adjustments that are a net plus for THE PLAYERS.

If there is a moment to make an actual difference then it would be next gen and it is to actually put your wallet away, rent the game if you can resist it because your money from the rental won't go to Nintendo or Gamefreak, and actively discourage buyers from getting it in person. We all saw the pictures, getting them from obtaining it is another blow to the devs.

Make a difference in the next generation, and make it stick.

>>58442319
Yeah I might just not be far enough in yet but I am genuinely enjoying it and I say this as someone who has been checked out of the series for a while. SV had its moments but it was not a well-made game, everything in ZA seems to have a lot more polish (other than the mega designs) and people are screeching about house textures. It feels like the first actual modern Pokemon game I’ve played, not gf scrambling to make something that looks like one

>>58442348
Based dawniggers are a cancer obsessed with anal and interracial porn

>>58442293 (OP)
Literally just bought it. I have shit to do this morning so I thought I'd let it download while I was out. It's already finished downloading and I'm not even in the shower yet. Googled it. It's 4GB.
I hate myself.

>>58442373
>>58442412
Actual game plan here. I am on board with this. One good thing doesn't excuse three bad things.

>>58442373
>>58442412
Finally a post that is actually adressing the benefits of boycotting the games. Supporting this cause, it's especially good for the kids if it makes them drop the pricing (especially with the DLC garbage bullshit) because Nintendo and Pokemon are targeting kids and their families as their main demographic. Actual good intentions to come from it too on top of Gamefreak's incompetence getting a slap on the wrist.

>>58442373
Screenshotted. Golden posts right here.

>>58442373
>>58442412
Spin off games in Pokemon usually have more care by their Devs (Even if that doesn't even make them 7/10 games) and get ridiculously drowned, ignored in favour of the mainlines. Dungeonfag here, this is actually a good selling point for boycotting the games.

>>58442412
Bump for potential.

>>58442360
Its cool to hate on everything in general nowadays

>>58442360
>It's good
And you're good little goycattle

>>58442771
I emulated it. I haven't bought a Pokemon game since Sun and Moon. I just don't get why Z-A get so much hate while S/V and SW/SH were way worst

>>58442293 (OP)
the only way to get points across nowadays is to speak with violence

>>58442373
>>58442412
Look at this hilarious cope. Im gonna laugh so hard when you lose again, retard. Screencapped you and the other worthless tourists samefagging.

>>58442783
It feels really forced yeah

>>58442293 (OP)
The combat makes the game worth it, I hope it becomes the standard, no more waiting 1 minute per attack.

>>58442293 (OP)
As someone who's played the game for free, I think it's a fun, albeit pretty mindless and visually underwhelming, game. However, it's nowhere near worth the asking price. So until they make a game that I think is worth what they're expecting me to pay, I'm not buying. They won't miss my money either, because for everyone who abstains from buying expecting more value for their money there's a thousand mouth breathing NPCs ready to empty their wallets begging for GF to shit in their mouths and then ask for seconds immediately after.
I love Pokemon. I do not love modern GameFreak or Nintendo.

>>58442373
>>58442412
This unironically worked for Sonic. Granted, it took over a decade to recover, but still.

How did /vp/ become the biggest cocksuckers for this game?

>>58442911
Wait two weeks tops and you'll see the cocksuckers vanish, making it obvious who they are.

It doesn't matter if you buy it or not, because there will be a new crop of kids with room temperature IQs whose parents buy it for them anyway. Pokemon is a billion dollar company, which doesn't mean that they have the money to produce quality, it means that they will generate more money for themselves even if they don't. Artistic risks that will be appreciated by a small amount of teen and adult pokemon nerds are much more likely to backfire with kids (most of their revenue) then safe and reliable trash.

It will never ever change, don't wait around for it. Please move on with your life and stop browsing a board that's filled with grown ass men that masturbate to drawings of children and magic animals.

>>58442918
Yeah you're right. We don't have the legitimate opinion yet

>>58442918
Who do you think you're fooling? You stick out like a sore thumb.

>>58442373
>>58442412
The dream
>>58442831
The unfortunate truth

>>58442373
Read >>58442936
And feel ashamed you delusional embarassing reddit tourist

>>58442360
>It's good. I think it's just retard thinking they're cool for shitting on everything Game freak does because it's tied to Nintendo and it's now cool to hate on everythingthey do.

>>58443034
nobody is reading all that autistic babble, dumb nigger

>>58442412
If that works for next time I'll lose it.

>>58442373
>>58442412
Yeah, but you bought it anyway, right?

>>58444080
I rented the game from a store for two dollars and then returned it. There are legal ways to enjoy the game without your money going towards Nintendo or Gamefreak. Second hand market, Flea market (In germany you can obtain a busted cartridge of a game and you're be legally in the clean to emulate it because you own a license of it in some capacity).

>>58442293 (OP)
Who cares they'll buy it anyways and the games will continue to be absolute putrid dogshit. This series is fucked, even Sonic is reviewing and is seen in a better light by the public than Pokemon now, this fanbase has fucked this franchise from getting good quality games ever again.

>>58443037
Does Mega Pyroar also die as soon as he is featured on the screen

>>58442293 (OP)
There was a preorder plush lootbox scam and it sold out, no way a Pokemon game can do wrong with a consumer base so submissive

Maybe Gamefreak shouldn't have frontloaded the ame with hours and hours of tutorials

>>58444185
Or announced day 1 dlc before release.

>>58444185
Their online reward system which turns new mega stones into FOMO shit turned me off.

>>58443037
They didn't even fucking try with that Mega Pyroar model LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>58442373
>>58442412
delusional redditor tier posts, these games cost peanuts to make and one gen selling poorly won't be enough
they can also just make the money up elsewhere

>>58444732
no matter what they make a profit because the games seem like they have no budget and make millions. so they're going to keep churning this shit out.

>>58442426
i think it’s a fun switch 1 game polished up a bit on switch 2 but not elevated by it a ton
i played it for hours upon first starting yesterday night, but unfortunately the whole time felt like the worst handholding and restriction on just enjoying the gameplay and game in front of me since sun & moon’s lengthy intro
it’s exponentially worse and longer of a process than that was, and people were very critical of sm’s early pacing
i think if it actually opens up some later i’ll start having a better time with it, but i haven’t been happy with earlygame’s handling so far at all
can say for 100% sure i’ll never be starting a new za save and going through this slog again, i need to get to and stay to where i can just do things as i please, it’s a video game not a walking tour

>>58442293 (OP)
Game fans are not the problem, believe it or not they are a small minority, the large percentage of sales are from the casual public who bought the game because of the trend or parents who buy the game because the brand is already associated as family friendly in the collective consciousness, for example my relative bought SV for my nephew who was 6 at the time, the boy played it for a couple of minutes and abandoned it to watch weird videos on yt (Adults acting like children and a lot of glitter and fake food), years later the Switch is abandoned and my nephew prefers his smartphone, but for GF and Nintendo it counts as a successful sale.

>>58442918
Was about to say. The same happened with the previous legends game and weirdly enough, only that time period often has screencaps of the catalog and anything else gets shunned.