Thread 58449550

>50% OF DIGIMONS ARE RECOLORS OR VARIANTS OF AN ALREADY EXISTING DIGIMON
>30% OF DIGIMONS ARE GAG AND WAIFU DESIGNS
WHY DOES THIS DOGSHIT FRANCHISE GET A PASS FOR BEING LAZY FUCKS WHILE WE GET SCRUTINIZED FOR EVERY SINGLE FLAWED DESIGN?

I AM FUCKING TIRED OF THE DOUBLE STANDARDS

>>58449550 (OP)
Because gun dragons and a bunch of angels cosplaying FF characters look cool.

>>58449550 (OP)
Because Digimon isn’t the largest grossing media franchise on Earth

>>58449573
>go to mcdonalds
>screech about the food because it's the highest grossing restaurant

>>58449550 (OP)
Because when a new digimon is revealed, no one gives a fuck and had no idea whether its actually new or existed in some decade + old piece of media everyone forgot.

>>58449586
So you are admitting that Pokemon is fast food slop tier?

>>58449550 (OP)
A loud minority of Pokemon fans decided they were the experts on good character design in gaming just because their mediocre games sold the most and spent decades talking down to fans of other series that the things they liked were "ugly, overdesigned, lazy, etc." just for not looking exactly like Pokemon. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

>>58449550 (OP)
There aren’t really that many recolor Digimon, and to my recollection almost all of them stem from Digimon World 1 where they used recolors for more enemy variety within the limitations of a game that’s held together by string in a lot of places. Outside of a few like ModokiBetamon that have virtually no reason to exist they’re a fun holdover from another time

As for Digimon not getting as much flack for having outlandish designs, the design philosophies are completely different. Pokemon are for the most part designed to be a believable ecology of animals in an alternate world not too different from our own. Digimon however exist in their own fucked up separate world of sentient monsters created from data from the internet. Realizing this makes you understand why there are so many Digimon like Leomon and Angewomon running around.

I feel like when a lot of the time when people harshly scrutinize newer Pokemon designs (at least the ones who are doing it in good faith) it’s because that design does not fit in as a believable part of the naturalistic world that Pokemon has built up. Like for example Galarian Weezing. Fun design, looks like he’d make a good NPC character in a PMD game, but doesn’t look like a believable wild animal species I’m going to encounter a group of.
Meanwhile throw that same design idea into Digimon and it fits in easier because their world revolves much more around Digimon often being individualized characters rather then being a species

>>58449603
So you are admitting you're a retard who doesn't understand how businesses work?

>>58449550 (OP)
>50% OF DIGIMONS ARE RECOLORS OR VARIANTS OF AN ALREADY EXISTING DIGIMON
source?

>>58449690
>Go to McDonald’s
>They charge me more money for a smaller burger
>Ask why my burger is smaller
>Man starts telling me I should be grateful to have the burger and that being smaller means you can give them money for more food

>>58449746
Their Poketroon ass, they are coping and seething.

>>58449586
>food analogy
I accept your concession.

>>58449550 (OP)
>50% OF DIGIMONS ARE RECOLORS
>WHY DOES THIS DOGSHIT FRANCHISE GET A PASS
have you seen the shiny autism?

>>58449683
Some of these recolors do have meaning like Muchomon. He became a Mexican ESL stereotype in DMW1 and has been referenced as such.

>>58449550 (OP)
For prosperity here's all the new Digimon of 2025.

>>58449822
not a singular good one. all over designed utter dogshit.

>>58449822
literal slop

>>58449822
no way people folow this franchise i can't sksksksks

>>58449822
thanks for proving my point

>>58449822
it doesn't matter how good the new digimon game is if THIS is what the character designs look like

>>58449841
>>58449844
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>>58449859
Cope

>>58449822
How many of these are in Time Strangers?

I like the idea of Digimon, but everyone was praising CyberSleuth as Christ himself.
The batte mechanic felt shallow, the story was also kinda boring and long. Sometimes even had these weird dialogue options.
What does Time Stranger improve on these? I like collectathons, grinding etc. I want to sell my NS and purchase a PS5 Pro if it improved and fuck away from legal Pokémon games.

We, yes WE love ToyAgumon (Clear)

>>58449841
>>58449844
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>>58449859
Forgot to mention I'm trans by the way not sure if that matters.

>>58449892
Just the eight new ones for Time Stranger. Time Stranger's development cut off for Digimon is the Bond forms from Kizuna. Though there's a good chance the DLC will give us at least Gammamon and Pulsemon since they were the big marketingmons around the games development.

>>58449822
>skullseadramon
>craniumon form
>rookie monkey
>rookie ox
Image salvaged. Hopefully 2026 is better.

>>58449895
Well to be fair that was a PS Vita game. This game improves literally improves on everything but more. You can watch penguinz0 review on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN2syg1EBOU

>>58449550 (OP)
>50% OF DIGIMONS ARE RECOLORS OR VARIANTS OF AN ALREADY EXISTING DIGIMON
Objectively false. It's probably closer to 5%. Also, recolors are incredibly based. Plus, I don't see you whining about shiny pokemon existing.
>30% OF DIGIMONS ARE GAG AND WAIFU DESIGNS
The gag number's wrong but I could see the waifu number being about right. But what's wrong with that? Just because you're a massive homosexual who is scared of women because mommy yelled at you a few times while you were growing up doesn't mean the rest of us are faggots.
>WHY DOES THIS DOGSHIT FRANCHISE GET A PASS FOR BEING LAZY FUCKS
It doesn't. Everyone laughs at Gururumon, which isn't even a virus type, it's saturation increased garurumon that's been mirrored and his DRB entry says he's just kind of a dick. It's hilarious.
>WHILE WE GET SCRUTINIZED FOR EVERY SINGLE FLAWED DESIGN?
You do that to yourselves. The Pokemon fandom is Pokemon's greatest enemy and its biggest group of haters.

>>58449841
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>>58449847
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>>58449859
>Doesn't like tomboy wolverine
>Doesn't like ara-ara lamia
>doesn't like doll loli
>Doesn't like dragon tits
>Doesn't like ladyknights

I smell a raging homosexual.

>>58449895
>Grinding is less of a pain because you can convert unwanted/unneeded digimon into EXP for your other mon's
>If your digimon are strong enough, you can end encounters before they begin with sneak attacks using your FUCKING PHONE GUN
>You can cast buffs on your party
>You have access to all your mons at once from anywhere and can swap them out on the fly or organize them easily even if you can only have 3 in battle, 3 in reserve, and 3 "guests"
>Guest digimon are a thing btw, extra npcs who join at parts of the story
>Boss fights require at least some critical thinking skills to win
>There's content in the game dedicated to NG+ playthroughs, including a chaosdramon boss in the first area that drops a good item
>Customizable OST including some of the anime songs - the japanese ones, not the shitty digirap or whatever

>>58449895
>What does Time Stranger improve on these
I only just started but so far improvements are:
>Voice acting, better translation (CyberSleuth was a SEA rushjob and it showed. That was where the broken dialogue options came from), and option to skip dialogue if you're not interested in the story.
>More detailed and varied enviornments
>Now has 500+ Digimon who have voice acting in battle. There's a new system so signature attacks are considered special and have voice acting. (Sadly the Digimon do not retain their classic voice actors for this.)
>Not as grindy as the Vita games from what I can tell so far.
>Tamer has a skill map and Digimon have "natures" that gain bonuses from these skillmap which adds depth to the battle system
>The battle system has been fleshed out. It mixes elemental resistances and the classic data/vaccine/virus system to add depth to combat. Boss battles require strategy to beat efficiently.
>General quality of life stuff. You can manage your Digimon from your menu now as a whole, and to help with grinding all Digimon now receive EXP regardless of if they're in your party. Also dialogue choices that move story along are marked so you now where misable dialogue might be.

>>58450004
Oh and you can set the battle speed with the flick of the R-analog so you can make a battle go as fast as you want at the time.

>>58449550 (OP)
you and nobody else ever cared because you never felt threatened. digimon coming close to even an iota of pokemon's popularity shows that pokemon actually isnt too big to fail and that repeated fuck ups will eventually devalue the brand until something else manages to pull ahead. Its like if nintendo fucked up with mario so much for so long that sonic started to pull ahead despite the franchise losing most of the momentum it used to have.

>>58449822
every single design here is fucking awesome, god damn why do i even bother with pokemon anymore

>>58449766
>>They charge me more money
GF doesn't charge more money though.

>>58450176
They're charging you 20 to 30 more dollars for games that have less content.

>>58449822
This looks so peak

>>58449550 (OP)
cope

>>58449550 (OP)
The recolors are grandfathered in because it was a way for the early games to give off the illusion of variety. Also, Virus variants always proved popular.
Omegamon variants admittedly got out of hand.
Also, you made a toilet.

>>58449859
fr fr they dont even have a heckin longo boi like mega starmie

>>58450176
Why lie

>>58449822
This is why Digimon is better. They do a mix of cool, cute and goofy. Pokemon only does goofy now.

>>58449822
these designs are probably good if you're a 12 year old south american

>>58450535
Yeah, but at least you don't have to be black and trans unless if you want to enjoy current Pokemon.

>>58449822
yikes

>>58449918
there's nothing wrong with being trans, 4chan is weird sometimes

>>58449573
>I must like everything that's contrarian because I hate being a normal person and I want normal people to validate me for being quirky

>>58450617
Everyone on 4chan is trans no question, if you say otherwise you are lying.
Just like how linux users are femboys, and everyone who likes Lucario are proud of there power.

>>58450633
>schizophrenic babble
Done?

>>58450617
What about scaring everyone and the extremely high suicide rate

>>58449822
these mog all the new Mega evolutions

>>58450633
Why are you quoting that post?

>>58449550 (OP)
100% of OPs are cock munching homosexuals.
Fax.

>>58449822
Cute cow.

>>58450649
far right fabrications caused because they control the media

>>58449586
Well, considering I've been getting increasingly inferior products from McDonalds, to the point that the employees have heard my complaints(and profuse apologies for taking my frustration out on them when they have little control over their ingredients being shit,) yeah. It is a lot like that.

This thread kinda exposed how many sleeping Digicucks are posting on /vp/

>>58449550 (OP)
>WAIFU DESIGNS
i see nothing wrong with this.
in fact, I'll need some proof.

>>58450919
You’re really calling people cucks for not wanting to pay 70$ for an unfinished prototype of a game they’ve been waiting for since 2013?

>>58449683
This, Digimon are made of data from human society so they take a lot of weird risks.

>>58449822
alysion is ok rest kinda gay

>>58450617
what about gender dysphoria

>>58449586
>Food comes out unsatisfactory
>I the cashier
>They throw it away and make you fresh food or refund me
>You just eat the fucked up food
>

>>58449550 (OP)
100% of Pokemons have a recolor and you all suck Gamefreak dick for it.

>>58451162
Retarded comparison.

>>58449822
Some of these are pretty fucking cool.

>>58449603
Not that anon, but the fast food analogy isn't bad.

Fast food is not inherently bad food, it's just not catered. Sometimes fast food can be what you want - Pokemon gives people what they want, and while it isn't perfect, it delivers on an experience relatively few other games offer in the same way (competitors like Digimon are great games but don't offer meaningfully

>But then, that money should result in better games!
The problem is there is a hard limit on certain things while still retaining

Look at Pokemons closest monetary equivalent in Grand Theft Auto, and look at their content model. They make one game every ten years, and only one of them gets continuous new content, and that new content is heavily made of reusable assets.

Pokemon is like McDonalds, the quality has a hard limit because the entire design of the process is about getting constant content out, but it gives people what they want despite that ceiling on the quality. Conversely Rockstar will make a fine, high class multi course dinner for you, but after that you're eating mints for the next few years. Which is fine! If you don't want to stay in the restauratant that long, then you just enjoy the meal and leave. But Pokemon people want to eat more Pokemon

I'm getting lost in the analogy here but yeah it does actually fit

>>58451629
McDonalds and Pokemon do have few things in common, they are rushed up dogshit products made for dumb fat people

>>58449841
Digimon has a vastly diff design philosophy, so the overdesigned buzzword being used like a broken record doesnt hold much weight.
You would be right that these kinds of designs would be overkill in a POKEMON game however.

>>58451162
The excuse is that they don't have a different arbitrary number next to their name in the Pokedex, as if that means they aren't still recolors that exist to pad out autists' playtime with "shiny hunting" instead of putting more actual content in the games. They even make merchandise for shinies, so even TPC sees them as their own thing and not just a non-canon RNG game mechanic.

Poketurds..? Explain.

>>58449822
Damn, these still look better than the new megas...

>>58451924
Is something that most retards can't understand, don't help that megas get posted as definite proof that digimon just turn into cosplayers despite monster designs outnumbering everything.

>>58449822
god these are all fuckin rad actually

>>58449822
notice how the only good and memorable digimons are the cute little ones and not the overdesigned ones.

>>58449550 (OP)
Champions constitute the majority of existing digimon in a digital world and are basically the equivalents of Pokemon as Greymon is seen with Charizard not Metal or WarGreymon. Ultimates and Megas are just rule of cool.

>>58449550 (OP)
>WHY DOES THIS DOGSHIT FRANCHISE GET A PASS FOR BEING LAZY FUCKS
the digimon you posted was made by a literal 12 year old kid

>>58450903
no they don't

>>58452984
that looks like a 4-year-old drew it

>>58450649
>What about scaring everyone
Trans people that don't pass and do not have naturally feminine (for MtF) and masculine (for FtM) from the get-go are not really trans but trenders. They did not exist before the age of the internet. Before internet, all transexuals at least resembled naturally their believed gender.
We should help these people de-transition.
>and the extremely high suicide rate
That's only because you bully them.

>>58452984
No wonder it is dogshit and soulless
>inb4 digifags say this is good
Fuck off

>>58453181
no it has nothing to do with me.

>>58452984
>>58453168
>>58453183
>Unironically bullying a little kid's design
It's cute that Digimon lets kids submit designs.

>>58449573
>Digimon is small indie company please be nice

>>58453190
Poketroons are subhuman

OP here
I'm also trans btw idk if that changes anything

>>58449841
>>58449844
>>58449844
SAMEFAGGER


REMINDER

IT'S ONLY EVER ONE SINGLE RETARDED THIRD WORLDER WHO SPAMS ENDLESSLY AND SEETHES CONSTANTLY OVER DIGIMON. HE COMES HERE LIKE CLOCKWORK

>>58453190
Pokemon has a design submitted by a kid, Spinarak, which is better designed.

Pokemon is for smart, artistic children while digimon is for bottom of the barrel, mentally retarded inhuman abortions.

>>58453243
Why so mad Digicuck? No one's forcing you to be on /vp/.

>Poketurds bully actual children over brand loyalty
How does a person become this deranged..?

>>58453274
Your cope is showing

>>58453283
Why so mad Poketard? No one's forcing you to make threads on /vp/.

>>58453269
I don't think he's Isdra because this anon doesn't seem to do powerscaling but he can still be Sean, the guy who still comment on the nearly 10 years old Death Battle video to this day (just checked again) and who had multiple reddit accounts being banned because of how unsufferable he was. It could still be some other weirdo, but in that case, it would be nice to have a name so as not to confuse him with other, perhaps more reasonable people.

>>58453373
>Digicucks scan all of 4chan daily for any negative threads on Digimon
Yikes! And they call us cultists.

>>58453393
And yet here you are continually doing the same thing everyday like clockwork. Obsessed?

>>58453391
Just call him Abdul

>>58453274
>Pokemon has a design submitted by a kid, Spinarak
This was a fake rumor, btw. There was no such contest and an early version of Spinarak already existed in the '97 Spaceworld beta of GS.

>>58452984
Wholesome

>>58453406
>And yet here you are continually doing the same thing
Oh I'm going to the Digimon board daily to see what they say about Pokemon? Can you prove it?

I love Digital Monsters

>>58449822
Pretty good year so far, but digimon has been back with good designs for several years now.

>>58453544
Are you retarded? Did I imply you were going to the /vg board?

You come here every single day, shitting up /vp/ with your failure bait threads whining about Digimon

>>58453607
They forgot the Shoemon :(

>>58453554
Hnnnnnngggg

>>58453658
Shoemon was last year, but yeah it's good. Not a fan of Cendrillmon kind of stripping the whimsy from the line, but Nyabootmon brought it back as an alternative so it's fine.

>>58451036
>the most mobile game slop designs are ok the actual digimon designs are gay
I hope you don't pretend to like digimon.

>>58449550 (OP)
Digimon gets a pass because they didn’t let a FreakLeak happen

>>58453607
They're all too overdesigned and too busy

at least our shinies are actually canon desu

>>58453554
It warms my heart seeing Lilithmon and Beelstarmon get so much new art and love thanks to Time Stranger

>>58449550 (OP)
>Pokémon's concept revolves around physical creatures that are treated like actual fantastical animals, and are therefore expected to have thought put into how they each fit into the world
>Digimon's concept is digital creatures that don't have to follow any kind of real logic and in several continuities are literally spawned from the internet

>>58449550 (OP)
Because digimon isnt the biggest IP in the world
Next question

behold!
an objectmon done right!

>>58453754
those tits are ready to burst out of that dress lol

>>58453721
Neither of those words actually mean anything.

>>58450633
anon most people here including me, had never even played a diigimon game

>>58450176
>GF doesn't charge more money though.

>>58449781
>not apology
confession denied

>>58449918
THIS DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE SHITHEAD

>>58450292
>>58449881
Arrest

>>58449989
>not the shitty digirap
I will no longer buy your game.
and bastemon probably isnt in it, which gives me even less reason to

>>58453903
Based on scat which makes it good and grow on me

you can tell nintendo regrets not suing bandai to get control of the monster collecting fad back in the day
now finally getting mainstream attention and making game freak look REALLY bad

>>58449822
There are like 2 or 3 that are really bad, and eventhose are like pokemon quality at worst.

>>58455176
it is, and it did.

>>58449951
Digimon will never rise over Pokémon because even at its worse Pokémon still has overall more cohesive designs.

>>58455627
Digimons live in a parallel world to ours where the built up societies and take shapes from data collected from our world.
>check our world:
>humans -> checked
>animals -> checked
>plants -> checked
>machines -> checked
>items -> checked
>mythical creatures -> checked but do exist in the Digital World

Digimon is as cohesive as our world. What Pokemon miss by having humans and Pokemon living in the same world, Digimon can do freely. Where is the problem?

>>58450214
>They're charging you 20 to 30 more dollars
No they aren't.

>>58450359
Why lie

Saw this on Xitter, bro spilling facts

>>58455848
I tried to watch it, but the guy (you) makes no arguments outside of "it's bad" and "it wants to be Pokemon" etc., which are not arguments and are wrong on several levels. Furthermore, finding a video that literally had only 3 views when you took the screenshot, a 5 minutes video that was also posted 8 minutes before you took it, but 14 hours ago according to YouTube, is not credible, hide it better. You also liked your own comment which is kind of pathetic.
This is so sad and pathetic on so many levels, and honestly, I hope it's not the same anon who's been seething over Digimon these past few days, because if it is, try to get some help, you're going crazy. And I'm not saying that as an insult, it's really concerning.

>>58455848
>vicualisaciones
Pablito

>>58453190
Speaking of fan designs by kids, here's Surfimon

>>58455848
Satoshi Tajiri isn't going to fuck you bro.

>>58455627
>Pokémon still has overall more cohesive designs.
This would be a valid point if digimon was trying to make a cohesive natural ecosystem like pokemon, but it isn't.
SkullBaluchimon looks nothing like Baluchimon because he was made from bootleg, counterfeit data. He's basically the same thing as the Sw/Sh fossils, a dude who was put back together wrong and intentionally not cohesive with the thing he's named after.

>>58456905
Okay what about Digimon that turn into humans wearing costumes?

>>58456937
Have you seen how much porn is on the internet?
Of course some of them turn into hot women.
Pokemon's been flooded with 'AND THEN IT STOOD UP LIKE A HUMAN' shit designs for years too and deserves just as much shit for it if not more.

>>58452291
>So fucking angry its fur has bursting veins
>Has rune-inscribed saber teeth
>Has a good yellow and red color scheme with striking blue eyes that stand out
I may not have liked it much as a kid, but damn. SaberLeomon has a really solid design. There's nothing wasted on it at all.

>>58456937
What about the Pokemon that suddenly have jobs? Digimon was never trying to sell anyone on cohesive world building, they were just trying to sell you the newest Tamagotchi. Meanwhile, Pokemon is trying to still sell me on the fact that pro wrestlers, ninjas and sushi chefs are apparently natural parts of the ecosystem.

>>58449550 (OP)
Death to all Shitgimon fags!

>>58449550 (OP)
Lives rent free in your head

>>58456937
The Digimon that get derided as "humans in costumes" are routinely among the most popular ones in popularity polls, so there's obviously a lot of demand for those kinds of character designs on the internet, thus they justify their own existence.

>>58449550 (OP)
Why are waifumons bad? Stop being ashamed of your cock.

>>58456937
One of two explanations:
>They absorb data of a human-like creature, such as an angel (Angemon, Angewomon), Demon (Devimon, LadyDevimon), or god (Venusmon, Mervamon)
>Their bond with their tamer influences their evolution, causing them to become more and more human-like as they evolve to stronger stages in a symbolic representation of real life evolution, where humanity went from animal to man

Also we don't have Humon yet, any digimon that are "humans wearing costumes" are not humans at all, but instead angels, demons, gods, demi-gods, or in the case of LovelyAngemon, magical girls.

>>58455848
Nah, I've watched all 3 episodes and it's genuinely the best digimon anime so far.
>Tomboy cyborg missile badger
>MC straight up (EP 3 spoilers) forced his digimon to try and kill a baby I/Fresh stage PUnimon only stopped by one of the other tamers from the government because he fucking rightly stated that any digimon that survive will go on to regain their strength and eat more people's souls/data/whatever the fuck they do by eating a sapotama that makes humans comatose

The worst part is Gekkomon who is annoying and who is voiced by Nokia from Cyber Sluts oddly enough.

>>58457110
NTA but like I said ITT, they're almost all either demons, angels, gods, or goddesses with very few exceptions.
>Venusmon
Goddess
>Darcmon
Angel
>Beelstarmon
Demon
>Kinkakumon
Oni, Journey to the West reference
>LovelyAngemon
Magical Girl