Thread 58454858

OVER HALF chose Totodile and a quarter of players chose Chikorita. Talk about a vocal minority, eh?
>Update: At 32K votes, Totodile remains locked at 56%, Chikorita at 25.3%, and Tepig at a tepid 18.7%
https://www.ign.com/articles/over-half-of-you-are-picking-totodile-as-your-pokemon-legends-z-a-starter

Did they know?

>>58454858 (OP)
I like Gen 5. But the starters are still some of they most hideous and uninspired they've ever done.

>>58454893
I don't like Gen 5 at all because 90% of its designs are garbage remakes of Gen 1 pokemon and the game forces you into using them and only them.

>>58454858 (OP)
Totodile was competing against arguably the two least popular starters of all time.

Mega emboar is the biggest improvement over the base design but even then that can't compete against feraligatr's sheer popularity. Even I hate mega feraligatr but I still choose it anyways, I only mega it when absolutely necessary (Water/Dragon is a god tier typing) and prefer to mega my other mons.

>>58454858 (OP)
>losing to chikorita
absolute humiliation

>>58454858 (OP)
>Despite having the most online hype for its mega
according to fucking who? lmfao

>>58454858 (OP)
the majority of the consumerbase doesn't go in knowing the megas

>>58454903
kill yourself

>>58454858 (OP)
It was never even a choice. Totodile is my favorite Pokémon of all time, no way I'd betray him, dumb mega or no.

>>58454917
This isn't data from the game, it's a poll that IGN ran on its article about the starters. An article which showed and explained all three mega forms.

>>58454858 (OP)
Totodile/Feraligatr is the best starter of all time. He'd be the number 1 pick no matter what the other starters were. Too bad they gave it a terrible mega.

>>58454858 (OP)
I picked Tepig and ditched him for Houndoom because I had too many Pokemon weak to psychic. Sorry Bacon but Hawlucha and Ariados are cooler than you

>>58454858 (OP)
>People who grew up with Tepig are in their 20s busy starting their careers and didn't buy the game

>People who grew up with Johto are playing the game with their kids and don't care about the pig

>>58454858 (OP)
I choose the bean, but I stopped using them pretty early

>>58454858 (OP)
If Tepig has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Tepig has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Tepig has only one fan then that is me. If Tepig has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Tepig, then I am against the world.

>>58454858 (OP)
And 0% chose Piplup who btw still doesn't have a single regional form, mega or signature move.

>>58454933
>Totodile/Feraligatr is the best starter of all time
It’s not even the best Water starter

>>58454987
>Piplup who btw still doesn't have a single regional form, mega or signature move.
doesnt need to, he is already the most popular first stage starter in Japan

Popularity polls mean nothing to me. I chose the pig.

>>58454858 (OP)
The statistics already predicted this. Typhlosion fans tried to warn us.

Replacing Typhlosion for the pig was the dumbest move possible.

>>58454983
>If Tepig has only one fan then that is me

How is that working for ya?

>>58455002
The majority of players are objectively wrong. Not news.

>>58454858 (OP)
Emboar's mega is the best of the trio, but I don't especially like the line
Meganium's mega is only mediocre, and I like the line, but prefer totodile's
Feraligatr's mega is abhorrent toilet shit but totodile's line itself is probably my favorite of the water starters. I simply removed him from my party

>>58454893
Finally an honest bort

>>58455002
This was before the megas were revealed and the general consensus was that Emboar won by a country mile and Feraligatr has one of the worst megas ever. I guess it didn't end up mattering but it really seemed like it would from how people were talking about it when we first saw the mega forms for the starters.

>>58454858 (OP)
It's not Tepig's fault Water as a type is king.

I hate the mega but I like Feraligatr, I simply will use other megas instead (majority of the dex is megas anyway). I think this is probably the most common sentiment.

>>58454893
I don't even like Gen 5 but I prefer Snivy over all Gen 4 starters even. But just Snivy. Serperior is boring.

>>58455039
>Emboar’s was the best
Turns out if it’s still fat and ugly, it still won’t be picked. Feraligatr’s mega is trash but it appeals to Japanese consoomers and irony-poisoned zoomers.

They really thought their guy had it in the bag lmao

>>58455002
>How is that working for ya?
Got the best looking mega of the 3 starters, having a great time

>>58455039
It just proved TyphlosionGODS were right from the very start.

Apologize. We had to fight this entire fanbase for an entire year, everyone was coming at us and no one was pulling punches. Now we are freaking vindicated and dodged a bullet. Look at what they did to Gator, they made him a toilet.

>>58455015
Is this the cope now? That the players chose "wrong" because the pig is actually the best? Face it, your Blaziken at home looks like a Digimon.

>>58455039
>the megas will save it

I don't care, dude. You picked the most popular Johto starter, replaced him with a shillmon, and expected that you'd succesfully shove the pig down everyone's throat?

This is karma.

Typhlosion was meant to be there. This mega would cleared his name and shown that Nintendo is on his side and is not acknowledging the stupid leak.

Instead they took the single most inflammatory decision possible and brought back the Johto starter with Tepig as the replacement for the Cyndaquil.

Also, your pig sexually assaulted a little boy and nobody cares.

Skibidi Toilet is extremely popular right now, this should surprise no one.

>>58455058
Retarded is still better than boring or ugly.

>>58455084
>typedos still coping after the leaks and their gay evolution
Many such cases. Sad!

*THIS THREAD IS NOW A TYPHLOSION CELEBRATION THREAD*

>THE PIG IS FELLED
>THE MEGANIUM IS HUMBLED
>THE GATOR IS IN THE TOILET
>GAMEFREAK = EXPOSED
>TPC IS ASHAMED
>LEGENDS Z-A? A FLOP
>THE BULLET? DODGED

TYPHLOSIONGODS, we won.

We did it. We freaking dodged a bullet. If our starter won't show up again in any games, all of these Pokédex poison who made the game flop will neither.

If we can't win, no one else can.

>>58454893
SamuGOD most handsome water type tho

Skibidi Gatr
Skibidi Skibidi Gatr
https://youtu.be/Tvc88_nDSgU?t=7s

>>58455084
>Typhlosion was meant to be there.
No it wasn’t you fucking retard. It was already in the previous Legends game. Kill yourself.

>>58455166
Can't wait to be VINDICATED in a DLC, so all you paypigs will need to pay $30 dollars to have TYPHLOSION save your trainwreck of a game.

>>58455135
Reminder that Meganium was featured prominently on the cover art of an official game (New Snap) while Typhlosion wasn’t. Reminder that Typhlosion didn’t appear in the main anime until after Gen 2 ended while Meganium did. Reminder that picking Typhlosion in GSC or HGSS is easy mode and makes you a filthy casual. Typedo lost and Meganium won.

>>58455186
>Reminder that Meganium was featured prominently on the cover art of an official game (New Snap) while Typhlosion wasn’t

No-no-no, I do not need a reminder that your Meganium is a shillmon while the Phlosion was ORGANICALLY popular.

>>58455179
The DLC megas were already leaked and Typedo isn’t one of them. LMAO you are such a retard holy shit.

>>58455084
I love seeing Typedos like you have a daily breakdown.

>>58454858 (OP)
should've been chimchar

>>58455084
Maybe if the little boy wasn't such a pathetic loser he wouldn't be bitten in the ass?

>>58454858 (OP)
Is Typhlosion canceled or something??

>>58455220
Don't act like you don't know. Don't act like we didn't all see the leaks last year and have to find out that this seemingly wholesome starter pokemon from our childhood was canonically a fucking nonce all along.

>>58455220
Only if you allow the leaks to affect your enjoyment of certain Pokémon. (Assuming that you've seen them.)

>>58454858 (OP)
anyone who hates tepig has no joy in their soul

>>58455446
People hate Pignite and Emboar, not Tepig.

>>58454858 (OP)
There are some things I am wondering. This poll was a Youtube Poll from 2 days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx65Ppq4EA6KKNkicT8VFQJctnWwdt0UUn
Did most of the voters see the leaked megas before choosing their starter or not? This could have an impact.
CardlH (dude on X which made tons of 3D concepts for the leaked megas) made a poll on which mega is the best. It has more votes than the Youtube Poll, and Emboar won by a large margin.
https://x.com/CardnlH/status/1978937416749621417
Either people don't choose their starter based on the mega, or Totodile's popularity was not very affected by Mega Feraligatr.

>>58455446
always liked this pig. just wish emboar's mega was more beast-like. maybe it'll groooow on me

>>58454858 (OP)
Most people haven't seen or avoided the leaks of the new starter megas, so they chose Totodile as it's the most appealing base starter. But that only makes the reception for it's mega even worse. When it comes to the mega, Emboar is the most well received.

>>58455220
I think they were scared of the jimmy savile badger revelations, that or it was a decision made on it being featured in the last legends game.

>>58455557
Or most people are slop eaters and will defend whatever shit design gf pumps out

>58455220
Retarded question
>58455318
Even more retarded answer
Like clockwork
>>58455392
What if my enjoyment of certain Pokémon isn’t affected, but my mild annoyance for Game Freak and Pokemonfans grows into hatred? Like to the point where I don’t consider myself a main series Pokemon fan anymore?

I picked Tepig

>>58454903
>Mega emboar is the biggest improvement over the base design
It's even more shit thrown on an already busy design. That is not improvement.

>>58454858 (OP)
Straight forward crocodile guy is gonna be the basic bitch pick. Just sit back and watch people discover the mega.

Perhaps they plan to use a different Mega Evolution instead of a starter one

>>58454858 (OP)
I traded my Totodile for a scatterbug, but I'll transfer one from shining pearl using home.

when a secondary finds out its a secondary

>>58455135
>>Ok explain this

>>58454858 (OP)
The pig lost to the worst grass starter in the first 4 gens?
LOL
Unova confirmed shitter than manure

>>58455002
There it is, typedos can't resist making everything about them

>>58455924
Meganium is Venusaur but not ugly

>>58455166
>>58455186
>>58455203
Based Meganiumchad.

>>58454858 (OP)
Emboar is still one of the worst starters ever made.
>uhhhhhhh we still need a fire starter
>just recycle the last one but lamer and uglier
The mega fixes nothing, the fire spear looks retarded.

>>58454858 (OP)
I see Im on the minority, I chose him because I liked his mega form, unlike all the other 2 things.

Though he's gonna get benched in comparison to smogonbird

>>58455945
There's 2 big differences:
Venusaur is useful.
People like it after playing the game.
Meganium is shit, but of course better than anything after gen 4

>>58454858 (OP)
Just goes to show how absolute dogshit this Starter Trio is

>>58455983
Meganium is useful too if you have more than a single digit IQ

>>58455944
I don’t agree fully with that anon’s method of venting his frustration. But you had no problem with Pedo Freak making rape fics about Typhlosion. You had no problem with every big social media platform making their cancel campaign about typhlosiom. You currently have no problem making every pedo joke about typhlosion. Why are you bitching anns throwing an tantrum about that anon making this about typhlosion?

>>58456093
>I don't agree with this anon's method of venting his frustration but I'm a typedo
kekaroo, you lost

my nigga Bois is the real starter mon of ZA

>>58454858 (OP)
Because Totodile line isn't ugly fatass nor too girly.
Plus its mega really doesn't look that bad in action.

>>58456130
Bugbro CARRIES.

>>58454858 (OP)
Tepig was a mistake and Chikorita is forgettable

>>58456178
game freak was a mistake and Pokémon is a failed abortion

>>58454858 (OP)
I have never understood the love for that western cartoon crocodile who looks out of place even in Gen 2 when Chikorita is so much cuter. Also I can't fault its mega going for maximum flowers when that was the entire theme of the entire evolution line, becoming more beautifully plant-like and the nega is its logical conclusion.

>>58455997
Most people here played the game.
The pokemon sucks

>>58454937
lol

It was by design, they knew Totodile would curbstomp Chikorita and Tepig and they needed to use one of the least popular starters.

They obviously don't want to unleash Treecko, Sprigatito, Chimchar, Litten.

Unovabortion starters are simply giant Ls, same goes for the Kalos ones minus the shill frog.

>>58454858 (OP)
I'm not particularly interested in any so I boxed for the first time in a Pokemon game. I thought they would go with... Snivy, Piplup. You know Pokemon that have at least something reminiscent of France (Kalos) in their designs and evo lines

>>58454858 (OP)
I picked Chikorita, but no matter which one I picked I was boxing it to use something else.

Leafeon > Meganium
Starmie >>>>> Feraligatr
Chandelure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emboar

>>58454858 (OP)
Is anyone surprised at tepig being that unpopular? I genuinely thought people would eat it up because le fire war pig
And I’m not just roaming about the mega, I mean tepig in general was never that popular (compared to his predecessors who were huge)

I refuse to pick Totodile because his final evolution has a butchered name. It's Feraligator, that's what they intended, but GB text limits forced them to remove a letter when displaying it ingame. This should have been treated as nothing more than a technical quirk(Like Link having pink hair in LTTP) and not something that changes the name forever.

>>58454917
/thread

>>58456892
Feraligatr would be far worse if it were actually spelled "Feraligator". The shorthand adds to its charm.

this is literally the first pokemon game I’ve ever picked the water starter simply because the other two options are such supreme dogshit

emboar is literally bottom 5 in the whole franchise in terms of design

>>58455002
Great mega and actually in the game and not a pedo. How's being a pedo that likes a pedomon and it's not in the? Gonna cry and make more schizo incoherent rants about how life isn't fair that your pedo rat with fire around it's neck didn't make it in the game even though it was in Legends Arceus?

>>58456868
Why would anyone be surprised? Fat things tend to not be popular and Emboar has the double whammy of being the third Fire/Fighting starter in a row.

>>58455945
Venusaur is a Pocket Monster, that's the point

>>58456355
If you have a one digit IQ, yeah

>>58457209
> the game even though it was in Legends Arceus?
What’s this legends arceus you speak of? /vp/edo told me that pedo freak replaced Cyndaquil and didn’t get a mega because of the pedo intern’s pedo fanfic.

>>58457333
So is Meganium. They’re both in the Monster egg group.
>>58457314
>Fat things tend to not be popular
I guess Snorlax is one of the exceptions to that.

>>58457369
Snorlax has KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO privilege

>>58454858 (OP)
I could choose the pig but as I played I have a Camerupt and Bois(heracross). Nobody needs Emboar. Feraligatr doesn't look bad in motion the "disguise" is hardly used for some reason. It feels like it should be a second fake mouth and not a surprise attack.

>>58456305
fully agreed, I always thought totodile was meh and Feraligatr hasnt been cool since they changed him from green to blue.

>>58455139
Shitmon

>>58455002
>W*stoid poll

>>58458125
Jesus its insane how much lower the total vote count is for Gen 5 vs literally every other generation

>>58454858 (OP)
I would have went totodile but i'm autistic and have to pick a new team for every game and totodile is always my guy for johto

>>58456305
Feraligatr as a whole just isn’t inspired. It doesn’t feel like a natural progression for the Totodile line. The problem is that unlike the other Water starters, Feraligatr doesn’t have a theme. Blastoise is like a firefighter that shoots water out of its cannons; Empoleon is an emperor; Primarina is a singer; Inteleon is a secret agent with biological gadgets, etc. Feraligatr is just a generic alligator that bites stuff and that’s it. There’s nothing that makes it stand out. They had the chance to make a proper final evolution for Totodile back in Gen 2 by building off of Croconaw’s caveman motif, but instead we just got “Totodile but bigger”. It’s no wonder they couldn’t come up with a good mega design when the Pokemon itself is one big mistake.

>>58458161
It's almost like it has the biggest dex and it has the best designs in the series so the votes are more evenly distributed

>>58458194
>It's almost like it has the biggest dex
And yet people still prefer the same 30 shitmons

>>58458125
wtf bros I thought feraligatr wasn’t liked

>>58454858 (OP)
Skibiti gator connoisseurs stay winning

>>58454858 (OP)
Totodile is my fav but I chose Tepig as I always wanted to use it in different game.
I am not dissapointed- it WRECKS in game and rolling/firesliding all day long.

>>58458175
They could've just went the garchomp/lucario route and gave it more spikes, stripes, and sharper teeth. People would've eatin that shit up. HELL I would've eatin that shit up too. Just take the feraligatr we already love and make it cooler.

It doesn't need some wacky gimmick to be remembered. Look at mega chandelure. It's literally chandelure with more chandelure added on top of it and people are sucking its fiery plasmatic dick on social media.

Creativity is good of course, but if you're having trouble coming up with a good design, its ok to go the basics instead of whatever stupid shit mega feraligatr is.

>>58458997
Mega lucario sucks
OG lucario is better

>>58454904
Everything loses to CHADkorita though

>>58454858 (OP)
Getting a retarded meme mega was still better for Feraligatr compared to Meganium getting a boring mega. Emboar is just ugly and no mega was going to fix it, it was always going to be the least popular.

>>58455557
Why the fuck would you chose your starter by their mega? That's fucking retarded unless you are in tournament or something

>>58455540
Fuck them too

>"That giant warthog Snorlax with a flaming beard and giant hammer tube arms is soooo lame"
>Posts screenshot of popularity poll voted on by other fags with no taste

>>58455053
Based Smugleaf respecter

>>58454858 (OP)
Typhlosion proven right yet again.

>>58462131
>ignores epic meganium win like a boss
Whatever helps you feel better

>meganium ends up being a solid tanky beast that can use earthquake, giga drain, and a fairy move
They gave the chikorita line justice at the very least.

>>58458175
Just make it a big alligator. Swampert doesn’t have a “theme,” it’s just a big animal, so its Mega makes it bigger.
And if they HAVE to have a theme they could call back to Croconaw’s caveman look by just making it a dinosaur. Big Dino Feraligatr would be 100x better than the plastic toy we got.

crocodiles have to be one of the easiest animals to make something cool out of and they somehow fucked that up, think about that.
personally i would've liked it if they'd gone back to gatr's more monstrous proportions from his crystal sprite.

>>58454858 (OP)
I usually pick the fire starter in these games and just went with Totodile because I like it's design the most

>Popping off with a turlet head gator.
If popuraity meant anything, I'd won't pick Emboar in the first place.

>>58454893
Nah they're great much better than later gen starters like Galar or SCATVOMIT starters

>>58458175
Instead of caveman make it a spino/fossilmon to continue the prehistoric vibe. Most final forms expand their themes rather than unchange them

I hate Tepig so much

>>58462407
What, the base design? Or the mega?

>>58458175
>he's just so boring bro he needs to be humanoid and have a job

just let the nigga be a cool crocodile monster

Emboar is still the ugliest starter Gamefreak has ever made

>>58458175
>dude just give it a Halloween costume lol
I feel like if it had a generic edgy mega evo people would be lauding it.

>>58464115
blaziken exists so no

>>58455446
die mad anon, its ugly

>>58454858 (OP)
Isn't Totodile the most popular of the three in terms of popularity just in general? People don't really like the Tepig or Chikorita lines as-is, IIRC.
There's also the 99.99% of the Pokemon fanbase that are braindead normalfags who just buy games on a whim and don't even know what the Megas look like (or what Megas are at all, tbqh.)
Even the slightly less-normalfag Pokemon fans who know the Pokemon but avoided spoiling Megas would probably end up picking Totodile anyway just by virtue of Feraligatr being the most popular of the three.

Still, if I gave two shits about ZA, I'd pick Tepig and box it ASAP anyway, since I don't use starters. Then I'd powerlevel it later just to fill the dex.

>>58462812
Honestly it'd feel weird if they had a "fossilmon" that isn't actually a fossilmon.
Also
>gatr
>not a gator
That pic is silly.

>>58454858 (OP)
>the most online hype
Gen 5 Tepig kids might be loud, but they don't represent the majority.

>>58457354
oh yeah poison powder is so useful buddy, also strongest move in gen 2 was legit razor leaf, in gen 4 its magical leaf, lets face it johto was not built for a bad pokemon.

>>58466552
Lmao

>>58454858 (OP)
tepig is a slow fire type and my favorite fire type is Flareon, so I have no reason to pick him

>>58466533
>he doesn't know

>>58455139
not even the best evolution in his line. retarded design.

>>58454858 (OP)
I picked Tepig but like, who cares ? Why would i want my choice to be popular OR unique ? Just pick what you like and shut up.

>>58454858 (OP)
TotoBVLL won.

>>58454893
only the tepig line, the other two are S tier

>>58467843
>SHARTmurott
Absolutely not.

>>58467379
>>58467848
Contrarianism doesn’t make you any smarter >>58455002

Now get coping

>>58466552
lol

>>58454858 (OP)
Garbage Starter Trio

doesn’t matter cause im benching the starter in ZA anyways. I only picked Tepig cause Chandelure takes forever to unlock

>>58458175
>Blastoise is like a firefighter that shoots water out of its cannons
So a theme that is not carried at a ll from Squirtle and Wartortle? Also funny because Blastoise literally was a separate high level pokemon and was only fitted last minute as the final stage of the starter line which is why it drops the tail motif and has cannons all of a sudden.

Gamefreak never realized this (thankfully), but Feralgatr is the Charizard of Water Starters. People absolutely love him.

>>58468837
That’s Greninja

>>58455002
When did this change happen? I remember back when BW launched, at least here, Snivy was the vastly more popular choice with Tepig far behind and Oshawott in last place. At least around these parts.

>>58469002
The final evolutions

>>58468837
Charizard isn’t less popular than Charmander.

>>58454858 (OP)
>Online polls
People know bots exist but they genuinely believe they always talk to human beings at the other side of the screen, curious