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Previous Thread: >>58450228

Would anyone be willing to trade an Oak for any of these?

This was the most boring month of pocket ever. Hopefully the trailer is tomorrow or thursday

>>58474002
Sent :^)

>Spent this whole month grinding for Cyrus
>Will get him in 7 days
>They announce 2* trading
>Only got a FA Oak from the few packs I opened for this limited set

What the fuck do I do... I have one person set to trade me an Oak for a Leaf, but should I find another person to trade me an Oak and buy a Rare Candy? Or should I just buy an Oak and something else? I'm worried I won't be able to find someone to trade me an Oak. God I hate this game...

So do we think there's gonna be non-mega EXes in the next set?

>>58474079
having 1 rare candy is useless because any deck that uses it runs 2 and running mismatched arts is a criminal offense.

Also gold cards are ugly and gaudy anyways, I'd rather run foil rare candy than that junk. I have a gold pokeball that i dont use for the same reason

>>58474112
Then what should I buy? I have 3 Immersive Lillie and 1 of each Lusamine already.

Give me your energy, /vp/!!!

>>58474195
If you pull it, you have to trade it to me.

>>58474195
horsea for you

>>58474195
gl on the sneasel, king

>>58474195
TRIAR
R
I
A
R

>>58474195
Enjoy your 2 hourglasses lad.

Okay, here we go.

I'm going to pick bottom left. Always the original location of the card I want.

requestion the pot of greed sylveon, thanks

>>58474195
I missed my Pikachu so you can get your oak

>>58474262
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>58474283
Based

>>58474283
A very pleasant evening to everyone, but especially my fellow luckGODs.
Good night, /vp/!

I'm glad. Now trade it to me.

I must be the only one here who doesn't care about oak and if I get a 2* I'd rather it be lillie or lusamine

>>58474383
Yeh it's mid, but it's commonly used so...

>>58474383
The way I see it if I get an oak its like a free pass to trade for any FA trainer in a future set.
until they inevitably powercreep him

Deluxe Set should have just been the reverse foils including on the exs, here's a quick rough edit of an ex with the reverse foil

>>58474610
they shouldn't have added foils at all

>>58474662
yeah but at least I can tell the cards apart from a glance

>make a couple alts so I can actaully get the 2* cards from the limited set
>once I trade the 2*s I can reroll the alts
>in the meantime, keep opening deluxe set packs on the alts because I need 25000 shinedust to trade them so I need dupes
>have about 150 cards from the set on each of my 2 alts
>have another 170 or so on my main from opening packs since it became available
>by using the trade/gift feature I could probably get my main at or close to the 353/353
>but that would mean delaying making new alts to trade/gift the brand new set cards
>but not doing it would trigger my autism and forever brick any chance at completing this dog shit deluxe set until they rerun it in probably a year
wat do?
Do you even get a cool emblem or icon for completing the deluxe set or should I just say fuck it and forget this trainwreck of a set ever existed

Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratina

>>58474916
I'm ignoring this set for collection purposes. I have the six 1-stars and I'm happy with that.

As the game progresses there will be more FOMO and you'll go mad trying to collect them all.

Last days of Deluxe Ex set. How are doing with it anons?
211/353 diamonds
73/128
55/100
25/50
58/75
All 6
7
Immersive pikachu
both shiny

Finally got the will to play this accursed rank season. Started this season straight from ub4 and went through it all quite easily, dunking on ori and suicune enjoyers (abusers). The guzz never misses

>>58475495
Meant 6 1stars and 7 2stars but for some reason they disappeared

>>58475498
Post your list? I also recently took the guzz pill to dunk on japanese suicuniggers but I’m unsure about some slots.

>>58475561
This season i switched mars for a guzma

>>58475629
So is there a trick to using grindcore? Because 9/10 times I use it it never flips heads and becomes a useless 30 damage attack. Is there even a point in attacking with it at all?

>>58476396
>2 Wills

NTA but holy fucking Bruh

>>58476396
You always want to use grindcore to be a menace. As the other poster said, you use your Wills with it. You can win games off of denying energy
t.same deck except red card is a second repel and red us a second pcl

WHEN
TRAILER

>>58476680
2 more days, trust the plan

>>58476747
shouldn't it be tomorrow? they usually do trailers a week before release and deluxe pack ends on the 30th.

So with the new card gifting thing... do you think it will be:

1. You can receive one card in total every day as a gift
or
2. You can receive one card from each friend every day as a gift

>>58476926
1. pretty sure that was directly stated in the update post.

>>58476928
I thought that but other places were being vague or contradictory about it

My dreams of speedrunning the new set in shambles

>>58475495
178/353 diamonds .
At least 1 copy of every 1 star (full sets of Greniggers, Gardevoir and Farfetch'd).
1 x Full Art Lilie and Lusamine (Lusamine I got from Wonder Pick).
3 fucking immersive rats.
Literally just got a shiny Darkrai.

>>58475495
351/353 diamonds between my alts, only missing foil growlithe and foil swirlix which i'll grab with points if necessary.
all 2* accounted for, again between my alts. have some spare copies of oak and lillie for eventual trade fodder, too. probably going to trade one of those for a lusamine so i can have a playset of all three since i only pulled one so far.
2x immersive pika on my main. no rare candy, but i'm chilling. crowns are fugly anyway.

Just your typical nip player behavior when they get their asses handed to them

>>58477196
based pikaGOD

>>58477196
suisissies... not like this

>>58477196
nippon-bros... we aren't supposed to run from firthy gaijin like this...

just beat a suicune + greninjafag with my donphan deck

are there any decks that still use ho-oh? is it just snorlax and dragonite out there?

Anybody have 2 Barrys they can trade me?

>>58478062
it's basically just snorlax and lugia, and neither is really a competent deck. dragonite ditched ho-oh for pichu and came out WAY better for it.

>>58478205
you mean regular barry, not the 2-star? if so i've got a single spare you can have. just post FC and i'll send it over.

>>58478276
Actually that's perfect I only need 1, yes the common version.

7666706204287448

Any preference on what you want for it?

>>58478322
added. any fodder 2-diamond is fine, this account is just an alt for pulling packs.

>>58478351
Thanks, Im gonna make a Snorlax deck now :3

>>58478378
no problem anon. hope you enjoy the deck.

>>58478389
Actually I guess I need another Snorlax from Triumphant Light since Barry doesn't work with Snorlax EX.

Anybody have the 140hp 100 damage Snorlax?

>>58478410
oh, i've got one of those too. sent.

>>58478437
Siiick

You know looking at the new Heracross, it's a pretty interesting combo with Barry.

Let's you do 100 damage turn 1, and drop that 100 damage any time from hand when you draw the combo too, plus you don't even have to run any grass type mana so you could put that combo into any deck.

cant seem to think of any particularly good uses for all that though

>>58478504
sadly it doesn't work like that. barry only reduces colorless cost, so it doesn't work with the WSS heracross.
it's a damn shame.

Oh sorry I meant 80 damage, I was still thinking 100 damage from Snorlax.

Still 80 damage turn 1 would be an insane opener right?

>>58474301
>>58474283
Im happy for you and hate you at the same time
I did not get the full art oak when it showed up in my WP

>>58478517
Ooohhh yeah good point, that's a crazy specific effect I guess. Also side note I wish the game let you choose colorless energy. Colorless in general needs more support like double colorless energy and stuff too, hopefully soon.

Anyway here's my idea for a Snorlax control deck.

Starts with Miltank stacking rollouts, rushes 100 damage Snorlax rush for follow up or alternative opener card. Searches the spare version of either copy for comfy/Snorlax EX to give free status immunity for everything because of psychic energy then has Ilima for additional heals on Snorlax or Snorlax EX and to take possible Cyrus/Sabrina/Repel/Sweet Scent targets once you're down to 2 points and just Snorlax EX so they have to deal with that last.

Feels like I've fit 1000 supporter and item cards into this deck somehow, even compared to stuff like Giratina decks or whatever.

>>58478062
I've had a couple good ideas about this. There is Celebi EX who gets +150 damage each stack of Ho-Oh. There is also Lanturn EX which is very powerful and can be stacked with 1 Ho-Oh due to being 1 electric 2 colorless energy cost. I believe there are also a couple water types who are strong with 1 water and 2 colorless and coin flip effects for Will. So that would facilitate Pichu/Mantyke ramp into Ho-Oh still. Of course there is also the Ho-Oh deck from the Blissy EX outbreak event but I guess you're moreso asking if there's a meta ho oh deck for ranked?

>play 10 games as darkrai crobat
>never get turn 3 crobat even once
>play 10 games against darkrai crobat
>they get turn 3 crobat every single game
make it make sense

>>58479082
Bit of a shit deck anyway desu, 60 damage in turn 3 isn't even very crazy anyway it mate? Food for thought.

>>58474301
toprightsisters....... not again............

why do people call it wonder pick when the correct name is Get Challenge?

I really thought I was cooking with that Snorlax deck, but full disclosure I been playing on normals and I'm losing even more than with a Wishi Washi deck

Doesn't seem like any variation of that deck are really any good.

Actually seeing an FA trainer in WP for once and missing it makes you feel like absolute shit

>>58479941
I missed a couple 2 star cards on wonder pick this week.

Haven't seen a 2* all month, the karmaGODS are brewing...

I usually see two 2* WP per week
Got mew and Solgaleo, missed Pikachu, probably due to miss the next few...

With Megas dropping in a week how many hourglasses do you guys have in stock? Surely non of you guys wasted your hourglasses on the current Bait pack, right...

>>58479304
アメリカ人は全員うすのろなもんだよ。

I'm never getting that 2nd Oak with this horseshit am I

>>58480858
you might be lucky and find someone desperate for the birds emblem with your articuno

what's the middle one?

>>58480905
Pinsir.

>>58480816
I have a lot and I'm not wasting them on megashit either.

>>58480816
A little over 800 and there's a voice in my head telling me to spend 120 on Deluxe ex.
I must resist.

>>58480858
Can i interest you in a nice rainbow umbreon for one of those articunos?

Just got this bad boy

How are you guys getting so many rare cards?

>>58481190
I'm not.
All I'm getting are Magnemites, Chinchous and Aerodactyls.

Probably gonna replace pawmo with another ori but it's been working out well so far

>>58473989 (OP)
Is Pokemon Pocket fun?

>>58481724
no

>>58481731
why?

>>58481735
overly forced aggression meta with overtuend cards and an over-reliance on busted staples mean 95% of the cards are unviable trash. And what's left is still heavily RNG-based at the top level. If you want to compete and climb ranked its pretty miserable, and downright unbearable when the meta is bad/stale (like it is right now)

If you just want to open packs and not bother with ranked (or at least not past ultra) its pretty comfy though. Its great as a waifu trainer full art collector

>>58481955
thanks for the information

>>58481102
*throws up*

>>58481090
Uhhh sure?
9059004600790119

If you are interested in trading 1* cards, here's what I have

3256471657855203

>>58483028
And here's my wishlist (also looking for jumpluff ex)
Feel free to add me!

>game starts matching me exclusively vs japs with electric decks that counter mine in every way
kys kys kys

So i went on one win streak to pokeball rank 2 and now its over for me
Nice

https://youtu.be/bWaCRes4uBQ
It's here.

>>58483067
Mega gayyyyy

>they're lumping gen 3 and 5 in a single expansion
oh no no no

Any last words?

>Put a random card from your deck that evolves from this Pokémon into this Pokémon to evolve it
Gyarados isn't dead after all?

She acked herself lul
Broke their brain so bad they put a damaged baby card up and i finished it off with Umbreon when they could have played their Greninja

>>58483116
Jirachi is conveniently able to kill all Magikarps for 1 energy...

>>58483087
Hydreigon seems cool since it takes energy from the energy zone and not discard like Flareon.

>>58483067
>dat nigga marlon is in
fuck, my water type supporter autism dictates me to get him. Hope Carracosta/Jellicent are actually usable though

>>58483171
Jirachi can also snipe benched babies for free points

>the trainers suck
Thank God, I won't feel obligated to chase them.

>>58483193
Whoops, meant to post an image

Sylveon draw engine + Aegislash giving it +30 damage seems pretty strong

Kino.

>>58483198
May is Comms on steroids but idk if it's worth a support slot
Marlon is the obligatory memedeck supporter
Lisia is technically an Oak sidegrade though, I can see it having usage

>>58483066
>that may design
Ew
>>58483087
>all those shitty numons
Easy skip set

Luckbros...

>>58483198
>ORAS May
EWWWWWWWW
FUCK OOOOOFF

>>58483198
>ORAS may
Looks like I'll save my hourglasses for the Unova set.

Brehs i went for alolan dugtrio and wigtrio on WP and lost both times ;_; i just wanted the funny worm fellas

>>58483087
>130 damage for only 20 recoil
Screw the megas, I want Hydreigon.

>mega amphy
>mega altaria
>may
>lisia
my 2 favorite pokemon and 2 favorite trainers in one patch
holy fuck this set was worth the wait
>both megas seem pretty good, or at least playable
>both trainers are absolutely legit for all kinds of decks
I might unironically have to make alts just so I can get full art playsets of all the 2*s for these

Cute!!

>>58483344
Tbh I’d run this in a deck with a bunch of other disruption like mars and red card. Might actually be the sleeper rage inducer this set.

"First Anniversary Special Missions Rewards"

>>58483344
Red card > Silver > attack
or
Silver > red card > attack

>>58483400
That's it?

>>58474002
I would easily give you oak for weavile

anyone have god tier vision and can read what the magikarp does?

>>58483067
>70HP basic
>20dmg for 1e
Holy powercreep

with flame patch I might actually use these in a deck now

>three packs
So we're getting atleast 8 Supporters, right?

>>58483414
I think it just lets you evolve your magikarp as an attack

>>58483400
t..thank you dena

>>58483344
>>58483399
>>58483404
With a dark pendant equipped as well lmao

>>58483414
"Find a random card in your deck that evolves from this card and then evolve it"

oh shit
finally i can get a lapras ex

>>58483405
It says:
"First Anniversary Celebration Special Missions (Oct. 29 at 11 p.m. PDT to Dec. 16 at 9:59 p.m. PST): During this period, players can tackle special missions to obtain a celebratory first-anniversary emblem and other rewards."

>>58483418
same but with pic related

>>58483493
>tfw you have 4 2* infernapes
>tfw they're all the shitty planeta

From the press site:

>>58483517
does this mean I can finally get lapras ex...

>>58483198
>Two waifus and some faggot nobody cares about.
Not bad.

>>58483344
>2 energy basic
>effect wants it to be active from early game to make the most of the handrip
>you can get rid of cyrus and sabrinas before retreating and staying safe in the bench when it's weakened
>compatible with dark pendant
looks to be very annoying

>>58483344
Oh shit I was looking at Absol again and realized it said "discard" the supporter and not put it back in the deck like Silver

>>58483524
I hope so.

>>58483517
>Try getting missing promo cards from 6 volumes because getting 5 promo cards from one volume wasn't hard enough :)

>>58483485
Can I finally get Chansey?
It would have been better if they were just tradeable

>>58483517
Also why isn't promo pack volume 7 included?

>>58483543
Looks like my kind of deck. But it also looks like it could actually be viable depending on the meta which means it would be spammed to hell. I’d probably quit the game for good if the top of the meta became this. Eating mars and red card every other game is miserable enough already.

>>58483543
And the best part is that it discards rather than just puts the supporter back into the deck. Imagine losing your prof early in the match

>>58483559
You didn't spent all those "excessive Event Hourglasses" picking up cards for Flair, right Anon-kun?

>>58483580
It's not as good as people think.
80 damage and 3 prizes you're gonna get bonked easily, doesn't matter if you made me discard my mars kek

>hydreigon
>150hp for a non-EX
>can just attack for 130hp every turn at the cost of 30hp
Oh so basically it's just the instant win card.

>>58483087
>Lilligant gives all your grass +20 hp
>bench another +40
Grass gets even tankier

>>58483400
The playmat is made of the silhouettes of the 6 Megas revealed in the trailer, does that mean B1 will only have 6 Megas?

>>58483605
And losing 30hp is perfect for using Pokemon Center Lady

>>58483344
>basic
>mega EVOLUTION
This makes no sense.

>>58483609
There's literally a Pidgey card. No way Mega Pidgeot isn't in.

>>58483568
It is a sign that we will have a new Fug ex soon.

>>58483615
In a paypiggy p2w game, it makes perfect sense, you wouldn't want the whales to be forced to dig into their deck for a basic, then the mega evolution and possibly an item to make it evolve, right?

>>58483580
Mega Pinsir just one shots it on a heads. Mega Pinsir + Will is an automatic loss.

Aegislash is the one to watch out for. Free +30 damage for all Psychic and Metal cards is absolute clown shit.

>>58483721
>dude just have will
Man it's been month have you not learnt your lesson yet with this dude just have your combo live scenarios

>>58483615
Megas no longer evolve from the normal version in the TCG and Absol has no pre-evo.

>>58483741
it's a stage 2, I don't see the problem

>>58483198
>Another male supporter with a meme/irrelevant effect

>>58483517
The drop rates better be improved if they're only running it for 9 days.

>>58483721
Pinsir needs 3 energy.

>>58483748
A two card combo for an automatic win is not a huge ask. And even without the WIll you're still just a heads away from getting smoked.

>>58483605
Finally, a deck I don't mind going first with.

>>58483748
>2-card combo for a gg easy win is bad
>now let me explain to you how you need two rare candy, these 4 cards and this specific supporter alongside a few baby Pokemon in order to have a 51% winrate

>May
Well shit, I might have to whale out for that 2 star

>>58483688
>>58483749
Cheers to a year of Basic mega ex cancer.

Fingers crossed that there will be non ex mega.

Looking at the absolute monster that is mega pinsir, yep I'm confident my extra full art erika will become a valuable commodity

>>58483605
> it's just ramp
> but more cancerous
Dena haven't learned their lesson yet

>>58483843
>>58483852
It's a mobile game, they don't give a shit about balance, they just want people to spend money on packs so you can get easy wins with the broken stuff.

>>58483816
The real problem with Pinsir isn't the coin flip, it's the energy cost. 150 damage for a card that will lose you the game if it dies is shit when it takes 3 turns to set up. And if you try to pair it with Leafeon or Serperior, that's more variance in its strategy.

>>58483878
Run grass energy only deck with two mega pinsir and two baby pokemon. Start with one baby in active and ramp mega pinsir one time while stacking energy at it

>>58483890
It's still a 50/50 whether or not you start out like that. Its only potential saving grace is that Leaf Cape and Erika exist to keep it alive longer, but using the latter makes your attack a 50/50 in itself.

>>58483878
mega pinsir + serperior is just Tinkaton with extra steps (with a bonus insta loss on pinsir)

>only 3 Supporters shown
Who are the secret waifus?

>>58483907
more like stinkaton

>>58483878
>3 turns to set up
Man if only there were cards that generated energies for free and could be used to stall until mega pinsir is ready. It's such a shame no such cards exists...

Mega Ampharos-san is not even being considered...

>>58483907
Sure but it's just basic

>>58483925
Why would I waste time setting all that shit up when I can just slap down Pikachu EX and be shitting out 90 damage per turn immediately? And Pikachu doesn't even lose me the game when it dies. And Pike EX isn't even that good.

>>58483925
Yeah, I mean, 100 damage isn't that much, and dealing damage to the bench isn't that huge considering you can't pick who it deals damage to. It's decent but it's not a showstopper.

>>58483925
It's a somewhat better Lucario ex on a stage 2. That sounds bad but Lightning is much better supported when it comes to ramping/moving energy, pluse there's Raikou, so it won't be as bad.

>>58483925
>stage 2
The best it can do is be paired with oricorio to stall against EX Pokemon.

I didn't see anything in the trailer that looked better than suicune/greninja

>>58483854
This is the truest statement. Every set is the most broken set ever so that the braindead whales can get their free win dopamine. It’s basically pay to win, and they know it. The state of the game is irrelevant to them as long as people are buying in.

MAbsol x2
Deino x2
Zweilous x1
Hydreigon x2
Oak x2
Pokeball x2
Red card x2
Dark pendent x2
Rare candy x2
Silver x2
Pokemon center lady x1
The plan lead MAbsol try to get rid of their Cyrus and Sabinas and let Hydreigon finish. If you go first and have to lead with Deino you can always hope to turn 3 Hydreigon

New Wonder Pick interface.

>>58484038
It's a soft p2w. It's true that every set introduces the new best deck, but Darktina has been relevant for half a year now.

>>58484066
How about deck slots? Are we getting any more of those? 20 is way too little if you want to play anything but tier 0 decks.

>one year later
>still no Dark mode
Literally the number one QoL request and still nothing

Premium...

>>58483605
>Rampardos that doesn't get cucked by bad fossil draws
lmao dena

>>58484152
jesus fucking christ it really is just rampardos but better
watch deino have 50 hp too so it's searchable by lisia

>>58483605
First good pseud.

We're getting an awfully lot of mons with abilities this expansion. We better get Hex Maniac to offset them

>>58484220
It sounds good on paper, but you can only do it twice a game and Suicune can still punish you for having a bench.

so what decks can make use of aegislash? having it up would be extremely good for solgaleo, but that's a double stage 2... i dunno.

>>58484237
2 turns is enough

Enough!

>>58484267
That's only if you pull both of them before the Suicune user has his entire deck in hand.

>teehee i don't even want 4 of these sought-after FOMO waifu cards
I hope your account bricks forever.

>>58483087
>hydreigon can hit 130 for 1 energy on a nonex body
>only cost is 30 hp recoil which happens on YOUR turn so it can be healed off before you attack
lol
rampardos but better?

anyone has a spare jolteon? is one of the two cards im missing from genetic apex

>>58484242
Sylveon

>>58484242
Babies can help ramp it faster. I'd personally put Dusk Mane in there, but that's just because I really like Dusk Mane. I would assume the effect stacks so you can swing for 130 with Aegislash or 160 with DM. And if a DM goes down, you can Lusamine a second one.

>>58484356
oh dusk mane/aegislash sounds interesting
will definitely try that at some point

>>58484380
The problem I can see with that deck is that it relies on 2 3-energy attackers. You'd be running 6 basics for a 1/3 chance of starting with something to ramp with.
Lisia might end up being good for pulling them, but then you can't Leaf out of a bad lead.

>>58484329
sylveon can get aegislash up easily, but how much does it actually benefit? even with both copies of aegislash on the bench sylveon is still only doing 130 damage, and if i wanted to do 130 damage i would just ramp arceus with a baby.
maybe sylveon/giratina could work it though, since that pushes giratina to 160/190. though i have to question whether that's better than just running greninja. probably not.

>>58484398
honedge is presumably 1 retreat so you could x speed out of it, but yeah if you have to lead dusk mane you're boned

Heh... thanks for the double energy Hydreigon, but I'll take it from here...

This game is fustrating, they add a fuckload of new cards nonstop but struggle to add any actual fucking features.

2 tyrogue/mega pinsir w/ will meta, calling it right now

>>58484422
One would hope. You could also pray for a lucky early pokeball.
It has the makings for a strategy, but I don't see that particular one going very far. You'd probably be better off just running Skarmory for the 110 damage hits off 1 energy.

>>58484428
Features don't make people spend money on packs

>>58484423
>2x stage 2 combo
>to do 130 damage
>which hydreigon already does by itself
hmm

>>58484446
I mean, exhausting people on nonstop new packs with little revamps to the actual structure and features of pocket doesn’t seem to be working.

>all these new POTENTIAL cards
>half of which are stage 2 and/or require 3 energy

I’m all for early theorycrafting, but come on bros…

>>58484462
They'll just continue milking the whales and make another p2w mobile game slop in the meantime to get even more money.

>>58484428
It takes basically no effort to add new cards. I'm sure every single effect has already been programmed into the game for some time now, and any new card effect just calls an existing function.

>>58484478
On cards with broken abilities and stats its justified for sure. 3 energy is doable if the deck has support

Got a proposition but it's okay if you just call me a faggot. Later today I'm gonna do a 10pull on GA. Regardless of what I get I'll be at 1250 PP & if someone has a spare Oak I will FOR SURE buy whatever 2Star you want for it (Misty, Erika, Sabrina, etc).

But then again we don't know when 2Star trading will go live, so I'm just testing the waters as it were.

>>58484518
3-energy cards are only good if they have some other way to ramp or deal damage. 3 turns doing nothing is a very long time.

>>58484478
honestly hydreigon is the only thing i can really imagine being all that good aside from the new megas. rampardos is STILL a relevant card, and it's basically rampardos 2.0. not being a fossil is a bit of a double-edged sword since you can't guarantee your lead to be type null, but it can also mean you just lead with deino and rare candy into hydreigon turn 3 which is an instant win against a lot of decks.
aegislash? greninja but worse. lilligant? the extra hp is worthless, grass mons are already hard to one-shot thanks to leaf cape.

>>58484535
How is Aegislash anything like Greninja? It's much closer to Lucario.

>>58484532
too bad you weren't pulling STS or i'd take you up on that
i really want a mars

>>58484534
Good thing those 3-energy cards are an instant loss if they die, almost makes it worth sacrificing two points at the start of the game

>>58484554
Pinsir might be able to get away with having Leafeon set up for it.

>>58484549
both cards effectively increase the damage output you can do in a single turn. there is zero functional difference between using greninja's ability on the active and simply doing 20 extra damage with an attack, as there's no way for the opponent to respond to ituntil their turn.
aegislash boosts your output by an additional 10, however greninja can snipe the bench for cyrus plays, kill retreated babies for a free point, or just poke their next attacker on the bench because your attacker is already going to KO their active, which are all things aegislash cannot do.
simply put, nearly any deck that would consider running aegislash would be better off with greninja.

>>58483606
Mega Venu is easily going to reach 300+ HP when it comes out.

megas FEAR her

>>58484568
if it comes out

>>58484584
Meet potential 1-hit kill!
0 heads
0 points
7 lost matches

>>58484584
>hit for 60 with Suicune
>hit for 20 with Greninja's ability
GG

Let's wait for the supporters. This is a supporter game

>>58484566
Functionally, Greninja can KO their active before your attack.

>>58484647
we already saw the supporters though >>58483198
lisia looks really good IF your deck runs 50 hp basics

As much as the Guzz17 deck is more successful, it's pretty much just Guzzlord itself doing all the heavy lifting with just 1 Celesteela rarely chiming in with A Thrusters if any.

Buzzwole on the other hand gives it way more opportunities to do shit even outside of Big Beat shenanigans.

Oh well, maybe there will be a Rocket-WaifuEX down the line.

>>58484284
Which cards would you trade one for?

>>58484659
No way there's only 3 out of 3 packs. Kanto had 8 or so.

>>58484666
guzz17 is only good because suicune exists. guzz + friends has a notably higher winrate against the vast majority of non-suicune decks, it just loses really hard to suicune.

>>58484666
>He doesn't know the joy of bonking that stupid fucking bird with a Moombahton
sad

>>58483198
is it just me or is may really fucking good? the obvious comparison is comm, but unlike comm may lets you choose which pokemon you put back in the deck AFTER the draw, so you can use it when you have something that might be useful to keep without fear of losing it for something useless in the current situation.
and you can also draw 2 even if you only have one mon in hand, so you can dig crazy hard for that one mon you need to win.

>>58484682
Are you implying it can't do that in the Grass variant? Because it definitely can in both, at least with Buzz you have multiple turns & mons to KO it without solely relying on the that 1 card that could be at the bottom of your deck.

Only upside to Guzz is that you have more slots for Will(s).

I'm fucked aren't I?

>>58484750
Yes.

>>58484750
>bonus picks show up hourly
>40% chance to get a ticket
>12 hours until the event ends
i dunno i think you're fine

godpack wp time
wish me luck boys

>>58484794
Mew for you.

>>58484794
Enjoy those free hourglasses :D

>>58484794
FUCK

>>58484794
the fuck you lucky basterd bitch

>>58484810
RIP, unlucky basterd bitch

>>58484766
>12 hours until the event ends
Anon...

>>58484822
oh...

>>58484584
Beware of Bewear

>>58484822
What am I looking at here?

>>58484869
Nothing. The event is over.

>>58484478
We get this retardry every month
Dude just uhh always start with your three card combo

>>58483922
Nigger read the second half of the sentence before replying

>>58484669
Besides lmaoOak? Dunno. Prolly Giovanni, Silver, Leaf, Irida. Idk if anyone would trade those for Lusamine though.

lisia searches swablu which is pretty interesting since mega altaria looks like a good card
also pidgey but we don't know about mega pidgeot yet
and sweets relay gets a pretty nice boost since it searches cherubi and milcery but that deck is definitely not viable in a world with megas
and of course the babies, but i dunno which decks would give up a supporter specifically to search babies

Do the mega cards release in a week then

>>58484967
I would trade Silver for one
I'll shout you out when trades open if you're still interested

>>58483878
are you stupid?
just use a baby pokemon to ramp it

>>58485049
nah man they're releasing in 2026

>>58485063
Oh hell yeah! Looking forward to it : )

Damn I want this to be the Lillie card so badly.

you know what's interesting about hydreigon? it doesn't actually have to be ran in a dark deck. the thing generates its own dark energy without needing to be in the active, so you can just charge it on the bench and use it like a magnezone.
sure it can't attack twice in a row, but you can easily lyra/leaf into another attacker (or a second hydreigon if you're lucky), and a 130 hit is a hell of a lot more powerful than zone's 110 since it hits the 150 benchmark with red. as a bonus it also cleanly KOs giratina thanks to type advantage.
i won't know how it measures up to zone until i get to actually play around with the card, but there's genuine non-meme potential there.

>>58485466
Supposing you don't pull Lillie, what would you offer for one?

>>58484766
The WP portion already ended.

>>58485466
Lilliebro... we are CURSED...

>>58485623
It's got damage like Giratina and requires less time to charge up. I think we're in for another Dark season.

I hope the time between Mega Rising and B1a is as long as it was between Genetic Apex and Mythical Island.
Three packs at once is quite a lot...

>>58485697
Same question to you >>58485675

>>58485675
I only play as a collector so I guess anything really but I actually use the candy card when I battle so not that one.

So we didn't see
>Colorless Mega (likely Pidgeot)
>Metal Mega
>shit ton of items and Supporters
The focus on Megs would lead you to believe this was gonna be a Kalos themed set but then they showed May as a Supporter instead of Serena, so I guess it's just Gen 6 in general including ORAS.

>>58485675
>>58485713
Is there anything you want? Let me see if I have it.

>>58485754
i wouldn't necessarily say it's pidgeot, there's a non-zero chance it's kangaskhan or lopunny. though lopunny might actually be a fighting mega, it wouldn't surprise me one bit since altaria is a psychic.

>>58485809
When an evolution adds a new type, that's usually the one they go with. See: Crabomidable

>>58483034
I'll trade giratina for gholdengo

>>58485840
i dunno, shit like GA poliwrath stayed water despite both prevos having exclusively colorless costs. alola raichu is electric instead of psychic, lucario remains fighting instead of being metal, etc.
seems like they just do whatever they feel like.

>>58485809
I lean towards Pidgeot because why else would they showcase a shitty 2 cost 30 damage Pidgey in the trailer?

>>58485860
no problem!

>>58485723
>>58485766
I'd be happy with a Cyrus

>>58483344
Full on discarding is a huge powercreep jump. On only a 2 energy basic? Everything so far has only been 3 energy on evolved pokemon, let alone just shuffling it back into the deck.
Blaziken is probably the best mega deck with the new revealed cards.

>>58484621
Kek

>>58485926
Sorry. Don’t have the fancy version.

new fire item will make charizard ga viable again
will one shot a bunch of megas as well
can't wait for flex my golden chari and the limited two stars one

>>58485986
I'll probably end up asking for an Oak. I'll surely get one somewhere, even if not here. Until then

>>58485901
i mean, why'd they showcase the starters in the WSS trailer if they were all just going to be totally unplayable shitmons? why put alola meowth and the useless oricorio in the CG trailer?

>>58485998
ga zard will still be bad because it gets blanked by oricorio and gets raped if it goes first/can't lead moltres

Aw, can't turn copies into dust anymore...

Why are people doubting mega gyara? It seems fine if you go all in on it. 4 energy is bad but we have mantyke now. Also 210 is comical this fucker isnt getting ko’d

>>58486208
It can have Magby set up.

>>58486344
kek, of course

>>58486372
mega gyarados is bad because gyarados ex does the same damage for the same energy and still has 180 hp so it's not getting ohkod by anything relevant to the actual game. the discard from deck effect is a meme on par with trapping, because if your opponent doesn't have their board online by the time you're swinging with a 4 energy pokemon you were going to win regardless.

>>58486472
Red card into discard seems pretty effective, or mars into discarding. No offense but you saying its bad feels wrong because we have no application of this effect yet. We don’t know how impactful it is since we havent gotten a chance to see what it can do yet.

>>58486472
Idk about that, 210hp is a notable upgrade and destroying your opponenets deck after shuffling a big hand back into the deck seems plenty good. Its all on how fast we can evolve and get the card online.

Mega ampharos is a strange card, i have no idea how to feel about it. Its doesn’t seem bad like people are making it out to be and electric and offer it 3 energy fast with no issue. That said, the bench effect is always random and unreliable.

>>58486587
Of the opponent has only one card on the bench, it automatically takes 60 damage.

>>58486541
ultra necrozma has had that same discard effect for quite a while. we know how it works in practice, which is to say that it just doesn't.
even in an absolute ideal situation where you swing with ultra necrozma on turn 5 which is about as fast as you can get mega gyarados online, it just doesn't matter. discarding cards your opponent doesn't have yet doesn't actually do anything for you unless they don't have the cards they need, and if they don't have the cards they need then you already won because this game is so insanely fast.

>>58486562
210 doesn't hit any breakpoints aside from stormzard and dragonite. nobody runs stormzard, and dragonite doesn't run guzma or red so caped regular gyara ex survives that regardless. sure 30 hp is 30 hp, but 30 more hp isn't going to save you from a giratina 150 into a darkrai 100. not even with irida.

>>58486587
It beats oricorio, just constantly cyrus stuff in.

>>58486633
Necrozma is a dragon type with dual energy, its a piece of shit why leave that out? Mega Gyarados is much more practical to play

>>58486654
ultra necrozma is bad, never argued otherwise. the point is that we already know the discard effect is dogshit, dumbass. if it's turn fucking 6-7 and your opponent still doesn't have their stokezard, or their greninja, or their solgaleo, or whatever, then you already won the damn game. if they do, then the effect might as well not even exist because you're not achieving anything with it.

>>58486671
Turn 6-7 is lowballing really hard when water has shit like Misty, manaphy, irida, mantyke, etc. In shining revelry, a slow ass meta people were getting out gyarados comically fast when shit was slower.

>>58486708
and yet, nobody plays gyarados right now. it's trash tier.
and now mega gyarados is going to come online at the same speed, do the same damage, have a less useful effect, and give up 3 points when KO'd, and it's just going to magically make gyarados great again?
at least gyara ex could work on a second gyarados after a lucky early misty. mega gyara has no such luxury.

>>58486671
Im thinking you mars your opponent into 1 card, then you make them discard. Assuming they have everything they need already is false, so many games come down too the opponent having a cyrus, or other support card on the final turn. With Mega gyara you are trying to make them discard and lose support cards, you are only factoring in them losing evolution pieces.

>>58486738
if you mars the opponent and they don't draw the card they need, you won because of mars, not because of gyarados. in fact, if they still have a lot of cards in the deck then using gyarados can actually be counterproductive because it has a high chance to mill cards they didn't need in the first place, making it MORE likely that they then topdeck their cyrus or whatever for game.

Give it to me straight bros
How bad is ampharos mega?

I'm getting fucked up fomo on this expiring pack.
Have only spent minimally so far. Really want to whale...

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>>58486988
>>58486988

>>58486946
probably the worst one revealed so far. in a format with pokemon running around that instantly win you the game when KO'd, random bench chip with shitty damage to the active is far from an ideal attack for a pokemon to have.
really sucks because i adore ampharos.