Thread 58542554

After Scarlet and Violet actually got criticized I thought game critics would finally stop giving pokemon free passes, but I guess I was wrong. The benefit of having like 40 different Nintendo themed “news outlets”.

>>58542554 (OP)
>WAAAAH THEY GAVE A GOOD GAME A FREE PASS
? yeah that’s usually how it works

>>58542583
>ZA
>Good
B8

>>58542554 (OP)
Some of these reviews scream paid reviews kek

>>58542583
Steam's Early Access has clearly brain raped consumers and developers alike.

>>58542554 (OP)
Z-A is actually good and you will never be able to describe how and why you believe the game is bad.

>>58542812
They recycle assets more than a freshman Unity project but still can't make a building look like a building.

>>58542821
>the VIDEO GAME is bad because the scenery isn't good enough
Snoy moviegames have been a disaster for this industry.

>>58542838
>Snoy moviegames
PLEASE don't remind me of Pokemon's attempts at cutscenes.

>pokemon looking like a mediocre n64 remaster gets called out
>immediate seething about Sony
At the very least Sony’s games function, more than what can be said about modern pokemon.

>>58542554 (OP)
You have too much faith in a press that has been bought for years and doesn't know how to hide it.

I gave this game a chance thinking most of the negative reviews were trolls. The game is mediocre at best. The options are nonexistent, all the dialogue is politically correct, it doesn't respect the lore or the decisions of previous games, it doesn't let you role-play in a damn RPG, its propaganda is unsubtle and every character seems to be lecturing you. It's not a game, it's just political propaganda with a touch of fantasy, and yet my trusted "critics" kept praising this crap. Now I'd rather listen to some autistic person screaming their hate on an anonymous forum. Yes, they're retarded, but at least they're being honest, unlike all those YouTubers and critics who sold out for a few dollars or a free sample of the next shitty game.

>>58542588
Fucking This, like this is fucking pathetic, its like the fucker was being held at gun point by Nintendo workers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBjW2HoAuJw

>>58542586
ZA is objectively good. I won't even read replies disagreeing.

>>58542974
>all the comments dunking on him
Good
>”ps2 era charm”
Now that’s a fucking cope if I’ve ever heard one.

>>58542990
>>58542974
no PS2 game looked half this good

>>58542974
that was painful

Has anyone found out what the meta score would be if all the publications with names like “Nintendo fan magazine” were removed?

>>58543001
Ape escape 3 looked miles better.

>>58542838
Video games are a visual medium and Game Freak specifically promised improved visuals in exchange for cutting the dex. What's actually been a disaster for this industry is enablers like you.

>>58543005
Probably would be hovering around 73-70, even with the 10/10's, feels like everyday a Nintendo site gives it a 8 or 9/10

>>58542931
>i ignored reviews because muh pogeymans reviews are astrotrolled and I assumed other gaem reviews were similar and i wuz wrong, whaaaa
(You) issue. I mean, even leaving aside the disparity between the paid and unpaid review scores, we ARE in an era where shitheads have streaming channels and play the new hotness to allow povvos to experience the game, and you DIDN'T think to maybe wait for a let's play to see if it was worth a fuck. Small wonder /vp/ never has a red cent to buy a particular video game, if they're buying drek blindly because "de reviews MUSTEST be rang"

>>58543017
They DID improve visuals. The problem is you took that to mean "we're gunna chase memes like the rest of the industry", which is something they never tried to do. Again, they were 10 years behind the mean in 2003, don't know why you expected them to suddenly jump on-meme like the rest in 2019, when kids don't give a fuck what it LOOKS like (throw a stone these days, you'll hit some shithead cunt who's first game was just as disgustingly behind the times, but she'll defend it to her last breath because it was her formative experience, much like I adore Zelda II and the choices it made, despite IT being the red-headed stepchild of the Zelda franchise as it was the very first Zelda game I'd played).

>>58543017
Graphics are secondary to gameplay, and the gameplay in Z-A is good. The pokemon, the actual thing people care about, have been getting enhanced models and animations. Not that those were worth the dexcut which actually is a genuine problem unlike MUH HD 4K BALCONIES

>Shilling for gamefreak for free
Sad

>>58543065
>They DID improve visuals.
These games are aggressively ugly to look at. The only "improvement" has been the resolution bump from not being on the 3DS anymore.

>>58543084
>Graphics are secondary to gameplay
And Pokemon has always had braindead gameplay, with ZA's mindless Korean MMO buttonmashing being the worst ever.

>>58543112
>And Pokemon has always had braindead gameplay
Pokemon is maybe the most in-depth RPG ever made, even if the campaign doesn't use it. And what's your argument supposed to be here? You were playing Pokemon for the graphics?
>with ZA's mindless Korean MMO buttonmashing being the worst ever.
You didn't play it.

>>58543122
>even if the campaign doesn't use it
Competitive Pokemon still pales in comparison to fighting games, FPS, basically anything that requires players to make more complex inputs under pressure than picking items from a menu, and I say this as someone who likes turn-based RPGs.
>You were playing Pokemon for the graphics?
I didn't make the graphics an issue. Game Freak did that by removing the one true advantage Pokemon ever had over any other RPG, promising to make up for it by improving the graphics, and then still churning out the same old ugly slop, now for a higher price.
It's obvious that you're so addicted to this brand that you'll contort yourself to defend anything they do.
>You didn't play it.
I haven't touched any of Game Freak's games since USUM because I have standards, and frankly, I should have stopped even earlier.

>>58543112
And they were like that when you were 7 too. But you didn't give a fuck, you just saw the critters instead of the gwaffix. Small wonder kids today don't give a monkey's about them being "aggressively ugly to look at". Here's a tip - can always fuck off and find something age-appropriate and considerate of spergy 20-something shutins desires for how their games should be presented. But you're kinda stuck with putting up with what you're served if you MUST limpet to Pokémon as if your life depends on it. It's not made for people past the age of 12 because the millions of people aged between 7 and 12 each year are a FAR more valuable market (hook 'em right, they're a sale for life).

>>58543157
>for a higher price.
Nintendo's and the game industry's fault kid. Nintendo wanted Game Freak on the home console, because the market shit ALL over the 3DS and they (Nintendo) weren't building a babytablet to go along with the hybrid. And in case you missed it, the industry put the price up across the board (I love the new DOOM series, Doom Dark Ages is in no way an $80 game however but that's its listed price). Get a job, most of us have had one and been able to spend the money on games we desired while you were bugging mummy to buy pogeymans.

>>58543183
The kids aged 7 to 12 are playing Roblox and Minecraft if they're even playing games at all. The audience for Pokemon games now are nostalgia-obsessed manchildren in their 20s and 30s who just keep lowering the bar and making excuses for Game Freak instead of closing their fucking wallets until the product improves.

>>58543209
Games are not required to launch at the absolute maximum full price. Nintendo and Game Freak chose to charge $60-$70 this generation for shovelware that isn't even worth $20, and the rest of us are free to criticize them for their greed.

>>58543214
>closed my wallet to Pokémon after sun and moon
>even all these years later and they’re still breaking sales records while delivering less and less
It feels hopeless sometimes but I’m sticking to my guns

>>58543214
You bastards have been saying that 15 years. Newsflash - it's still hitting their market, which is why they don't feel the need to aim at older children, teens and adults the way Digimon leaned HARD into the "scantily clad females" shtick so that little boys could play it for the plot.
Gamer Freak didn't decide shit, you retarded monkey. Nintendo BOUGHT the fucking game (which they own master trademarks on, by the way) off Game Freak for their own console and what do you know? They chose to charge $70 for it on Switch 2. Just as EA decided to launch 2 different versions (or three for FIFA, dunno) of FIFA and Madden and 2K released three of the new WWE game and $70 was the cheapest they were on launch. Industry's putting prices up, should have considered that before you voted for a fat senile paedophile who ran on a ticket of taxing dross cunts on EVERYTHING they bought.

>>58543157
>I haven't touched any of Game Freak's games since USUM because I have standards, and frankly, I should have stopped even earlier.
Thanks for admitting that your opinion on this game is based on nothing but your imagination and thus completely worthless.

>>58543157
>i had standards after 2017
So, if my maths is semi-right, when you turned 13ish and went to big-boy school where all the rest of the boys didn't talk about pokémon?

>>58543368
NTA but I was 19 and after seeing the spagetti coding I was done, and it looks like I was correct to do so.

I'm glad it turned out this way. I used to feel bad for liking Pokémon because the games aren't what they could and/or should be, but eventually, I saw the majority of fans are different flavors of whiny cunts who are incapable of feeling happy yet demand satisfaction nonetheless.

Now, I've come around to enjoying the games out of pure Schadenfreude because I fucking hate this fanbase more than I could ever hate these games.

Every little bit of jank, every visual blip, flat texture, bit of pop-in, I can feel how mad it'll make them, how they'll make sweeping declarations swearing off the franchise for good, just to hatestalk it for the rest of their lives. Everything I experience in these games that I know will upset them, I enjoy.

I can't wait for Gen 10 now, the leaks already have some people pissing themselves in anger, the meltdowns will be glorious once the games are revealed and as more is shown throughout the year. I know /vp/ won't let me down in this regard, you never do :)

>>58543214
voting with your wallet means that you can get outvoted anon
"b-b-but codslop"
yeah, you know what? Maybe CoD and FIFA keep selling too because they capture an appeal other games don't. If things were getting worse for real, you would see a downturn, look at something like Marvel.

>>58543574
>IT SELLS SO ITS GOOD
Children and cultists aren’t a good quality measurement.

>>58543214
>"Vote with your wallet!"
I'm sick and tired of hearing this corporate lie, and I'm tired of pretending that these words have ever worked.

>>58543214
I defer to this: >>58543870
The people responsible for the games selling so well aren't unhappy with the way things are, a few thousand whiney faggots on the internet not spending $70 doesn't mean shit. People will continue to do what makes them happy, even if it's at the expense of the autistic manchildren on the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that, they don't know you, they don't owe you anything.

>>58543232
It is hopeless if you're hoping for a course correction based on your abstinence from the games, but I admire your integrity nonetheless, assuming you're being honest.