Thread 11785380

Why do the fuck do they not remaster/remake these classic and beloved Zelda titles?

>>11785380 (OP)
I imagine the original game boy components are so far removed from what a remaster would need to be for modern consoles that the games would essentially have to be recreated from scratch, and the link mechanic or whatever it was called wouldn't really translate at all.

>>11785380 (OP)
they aren't both getting a remake treatment, they're planning to "paraphrase" the two games into a single "new" game. The Legend of Zelda: Oracles

Your bot is malfunctioning.

>>11785398
They should have a 3 in 1 game where your save file in one game affects the gameplay on the other games. And 3 because this would be the perfect opportunity to create a new game from scratch and pretend that you are going to release the unreleased third game

>>11785380 (OP)
Why do you retards want remakes, just play the originals ffs

Indeed. Maybe then they'll make a Gameboy Zelda I actually like. It wasn't until [not /vr/] that Nintendo made a portable Zelda I enjoyed. As bad as I found the Oracle games, at least they weren't Shittish Crap. That was poopies.

>>11785380 (OP)
Buy a ModRetro Chromatic and play it the way it was meant to be played.

>>11786628
This

>>11785430
this
>t. uncle works at Nintendo

>>11786761
Shigeru Miyamoto here, thank you for exposing the leak, your uncle will be fired, blacklisted from the industry, prosecuted, tarred, feathered, drawn and quartered, sterilized, lobotomized, tenderized and pasteurized.

Have a nice day.

>>11785380 (OP)
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Capcom """Zelda""" is a romhack fanfiction of Links Awakening

>>11785380 (OP)

Just play the fucking games dude, they don't need a remake. No game needs a remake. The LA remake was a complete kiddy shit downgrade anyway and in no way an improvement. Is that what you're looking for?

>>11786628
Most people are too retarded to learn how to emulate (and in the case of Nintendo fans, they are terrified of it and think Mario will personally haul them off to prison)

>>11786870
anon he got deported

>>11785380 (OP)
I've been very worried that they will remake these with the Link Between Worlds/Echoes of Wisdom plastic toy graphics. i really hate that art style

>>11785398
>the link mechanic or whatever it was called wouldn't really translate at all
Both games read each other's save files and triggers the unlocks accordingly. Not hard.

>>11786865
didn't another team make link's awakening?
also Minish Cap is Capcom and also beloved

>>11785380 (OP)
Why bother? Just put on the VWF patches and the games are essentially perfect.

>>11790367
Disgusting

>>11790367
what do these patches do?

>>11790381
VWF = Variable Width Font
Look at the image

>>11790381
VWF=Variable Width Font
It just takes the text and generally makes it nicer to read while letting more of it fit into the boxes at once. Picrel is the original font.

>>11790384
it shrinks it and makes it illegible

>remaster/remake
fuck off back to /v/

>>11785380 (OP)
>LA was literally the greatest game of all time
>got seasons thinking it'd be just as good
>get bored 15 minutes in
>put it away for years
>eventually play it all the way through
>meh/10

>>11785380 (OP)
Because all remakes and remasters are trash and you should neck yourself for thinking they (and you) aren't complete garbage.

>>11785380 (OP)
Both of these feel like someone trying to make a Zelda game but having no idea why the formula works.

>>11791005
>Because all remakes and remasters are trash
Pokemon FR/LG and HG/SS were both objectively better than the original games, and only retards argue otherwise.

>>11791005
It’s funny how uppity /vr/etards get about this shit

>>11790461
>grampa forgot his glasses again
lol.

>>11785380 (OP)
i really like these games, particularly Seasons

>>11791023
DS remakes running on engines that manage to be more sluggish than freaking GBC games are in no way "objectively better."

>>11785380 (OP)
Screen resolution.

>>11793606
I would actually like to play a version of the Oracles that didn't change the graphics but allowed you to view a full dungeon screen at a time without scrolling (since unlike overworld screens, dungeon screens are too big to display on the GBC). I'm really curious to see if that would have an impact on the experience.

>>11785380 (OP)
I'd be happy if they used the same engine as Link's Awakening - and I'd buy a switch 2 just to play them.

>>11785617
Nintendo will never give up the opportunity to sell you the 2 games separately - as in the original release and literally every pokemon game.

>>11785398
The link feature could work since both save files would be on the switch (or sd)

>>11786789
kek

>>11786628
I played Awakening and I’m only partially through one of these
I’d like to play another Grezzo game or two in addition to the Zelda Zelda game that I enjoyed
>>11794985
You’d think so but they put the Awakening Color game on the Nintendo Online thing after the Grezzo version became available

>>11790997
>LA chad played through an unfinished game next instead of Oracle of Ages
Sad to hear, anon.

>>11795969
I imagine the logic was: people will play the remake and want to play the original to compare - thus prompting people to buy the game AND get the Nintendo Online.
So still technically double dipping imo.

>>11785380 (OP)
Because these games were made by Capcom, not Nintendo, and that's a licensing mess these days

>>11790384
I'm all in for those mods, but not really for portable games. The GB screen is already small enough.

>>11793602
They’re turn-based RPGs, the engine being a little bit slower hardly matters when there were so many other gameplay improvements. Hard to say if it’s really even slower overall when the originals had a bug where the HP bars would drain at a comically glacial pace if the Pokémon had a high enough amount of HP

>>11785380 (OP)
I wonder how many kids weren't allowed to get both because their parents thought it was another Pokemon situation(both versions being the same game).

>>11789045
It's going to happen whether you want it or not. It's just how modern Nintendo is.

>>11796534
>I wonder how many kids weren't allowed to get both
i only grew up with Seasons. i never knew about how you're supposed to play them together and when i did i explained to my dad and he got me a copy of Ages and a dual game guide book. i really loved guidebooks as a kid. I'd read every single word and absorb all the information

>>11794970
this would be cool

>>11786628
more content better

>>11785380 (OP)
There's a literal foid art lead/director at Gr*zzo who thinks the 2D Zelda direction should be all Funko-styled chibishit.
They're going to keep going with it, because current day Zeldafags are total pigs to anything on the Switches and the fact she's mad Nintendo won't let Grezzo make more games of their OoT ripoff.

It's been downhill here.

>>11791058
Found the stagger retard.

>>11791023
>Pokemon FR/LG and HG/SS were both objectively better than the original games
Okay retard.

>>11786865
>Capcom """Zelda""" is a romhack fanfiction of Links Awakening
You're retarded, it was originally Zelda 1 remakes and Miyamoto told them to make original games instead.
Also Oracles' engine is far superior to LA.

>>11799673
Ah yes, because people really enjoy led new content like Dampe's gay chambers.
It was so gay, all the dissapointment was only to be met with Aonuma saying they'll never truly make a real (and good) Zelda Maker.

>>11796006
He would just get filtered by the brilliant dungeon design that is Jabu Jabu's Belly and Tokay Island anyways.

>>11799691
She must be the Aya Kyogoku of Zelda

>>11790367
There’s a rom hack that increases the difficulty of one of them. I’ve played them so many times that I want to check it out.

>>11796415
>the originals had a bug where the HP bars would drain at a comically glacial pace
Proof?

>>11796607
>Brady Games
Can't imagine there was much information to absorb from that one

>>11800532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE-BfsFgZVM

Wait until the part with Blissey to see it at its peak

>>11800631
This is still faster than one-shotting a Blissey in Gen IV.
They actually made it slower.

>>11800663
>This is still faster than one-shotting a Blissey in Gen IV.
No, it's actually a bit slower in GSC, compare that previously-posted video to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBfPgLiNEXM

>>11791023
Here is the blurb on the back of the box for Pokemon Silver:
>Enter a whole new world, with new Pokémon to capture, train and battle! Meet Professor Elm and get the all-new Poké Gear. (...)
>Dozens of never-before-seen Pokémon! Find new evolutions for some familiar Pokémon and discover whole new species. (...)
>A whole new world! Explore Johto, where there are new gym leaders to beat and eight new badges to earn.
>Two new types! Introducing Dark and Steel-type Pokémon.

Imagine if it said

>Enter the same old world, with no new Pokémon to capture, train and battle! You already know Professor Elm and get the Poké Gear again
>Dozens of seen Pokémon! No new evolutions for familiar Pokémon and discover nothing.
>A world! Revisit Johto, where there are gym leaders to beat and eight badges you earned 10 years ago.
>No new types!
>We made it so hecking fire punch scales with attack!

what a hit! Remakes are objectively terrible.

>>11800846
They could have put selling points like
>Play the content of GSC but without all the shitty bugs from sloppy coding! Apricorn balls actually work now, and you can catch more Johto pokemon in Johto! Kanto actually has its landmarks restored and Viridian Forest is no longer reduced to a shrub maze! The Post-game facility is now a full-fledged Battle Frontier and now has actually decent rewards instead of shitty vitamins! Re-battle Gym Leaders with more powerful teams after adding them to your Pokegear, which no longer has a miniscule contacts limit! Re-balanced trainer teams because they were consistently too fucking weak in the original releases!
And so on.

>>11799696
>Has his Dragonite literally blast a Rocket Grunt with Hyper Beam at point-blank range
>Has the gall in HG/SS to accuse the Rockets of fighting unfairly
HG/SS Lance is a hypocrite.

>>11800861
Or they could have made a new game that I haven't played before. Remakes are intrinsically tethered to the original game, essentially parasitic, and cant stand alone. Its false valor, you didn't present this new world to explore it already existed. If I took my Pokemon Gold game and scribbled "Dokemon Gold" on it and distributed it I dont get to claim I made a game just as good as gamefreak I didn't do anything. If you strip away all the aspects of HG/SS that are from the original game then you're just left with a kimono girls cutscene and a working apricorn ball, completely hollow.

>>11800931
Lance was always a cheater, with his under-leveled Dragonites and Rock Slide Aerodactyl

>>11800936
>Or they could have made a new game that I haven't played before.
Just for consistency's sake, were you also bitching about Yellow and Crystal back then?

>>11800937
The CPU cheats with illegal Pokemon/moves all the time. Lance is nothing special in that regard. It's more hypocritical in his case because he's supposed to be representing fairness and love for Pokemon and people.

>>11800936
>If you strip away all the aspects of HG/SS that are from the original game then you're just left with a kimono girls cutscene and a working apricorn ball
Among other things you're also left with new routes, a new Safari Zone, the Pokeathlon, a Battle Frontier that didn't exist in the original, a much-improved Mt Silver, Pokewalker integration and an actually-updated Kanto instead of one that was stripped bare

>>11800942
I dont consider either to be better than RGB or GS. Yellow is particularly terrible because its an anime tie-in.

>>11800948
>much-improved Mt Silver
>Now requires Rock Climb to even so much as enter when you didn't need any HMs before
No.

>>11800931
This is why the original script is better because at least he's honest about it.

>>11800948
If your reply to me essentially saying that you can stack as many doodads in a remake as you like it doesnt change the fact that the core of the game does not belong to the remake it inhabits, is to list a bunch of doodads the remake has then I think we're done here. You can talk about DS pokemon games freely on the pokemon board.

>>11800976
An improved version of the game with extra stuff that is well-implemented is just the definitive version of said game. Pokemon used to do remakes well, Resident Evil also does them well. Remakes are often lazy cash-grabs, but not always.

>>11799691
>woman has lead position in Animal Crossing
>goes to shit
>woman has lead position in Zelda
>goes to shit
I'm sensing a pattern.

>>11785380 (OP)
>beloved
I feel like Zeldafags consistently avoid playing these two games, so I'm not sure how "beloved" they are. I've only played Oracle of Ages and LTTP (with OoA being the only one that I actually made meaningful progress in before stalling) so it's special to me, but none of the people I've talked to who claimed to have played a lot of Zelda games have ever played either of the Oracle games. Out of the pre-Gamecube Zelda games, the ones most people played are usually Ocarina of Time, LTTP, and Link's Awakening. Then you have a few people who played the two NES Zeldas and fewer than that who finished Majora's Mask, and basically none of the Zeldafags I've ran into in my entire life have played either Oracle game. So it's not shocking that they keep not getting remakes.

>>11790461
Unless you're actually playing in 144p on your monitor, it'll look fine.

>>11785380 (OP)
Capcom developed them

>>11796534
>>11796607
A neighborhood friend and I were both into Zelda and got different ones at launch, and since they came out around summer break were able to finish them and then trade carts. it was kino

>>11801137
why the fuck would you play it on a monitor, it's a fucking GBC game

>>11801742
Anon, let's not pretend most of us aren't emulating. And besides, 8 pixel high variable width fonts are still plenty easy to read. You're just a blind old man.

>>11800994
>the definitive version of said game
its not said game though its a different game.

>>11800861
Clearly /vr/ isn't the place for you

>>11801083
>and basically none of the Zeldafags I've ran into in my entire life have played either Oracle game.
Totally has nothing to do with Majora's Mask's release.
Capcom Zelda historically get fucked over by timing of releases and the deadlines Nintendo keeps pushing forward.
That's why they stuck with Kirby before Capcom recalled Flagship Ltd.

and it's funny, GBA games like Minish Cap would have benifitted a lot if it got a DS release like with PMD Blue Rescue Team and Squeak Squad.

>>11786865
>Nintendo hates these games
While there's no real evidence, it seems to be the case. The Oracle games and Minish cap are the only ones not referenced by Hyrule Warriors Legends, seems a bit of an odd specific group of games since they were all made by Capcom.
>>11785380 (OP)
The release date was awful, they came out like a month before the GBA which had all the marketing blitz behind it. By this point people were getting tired of the two versions of the same game formula everyone had copied off of Pokemon, many assumed it was just the same game with slight differences. Gamecube came out months later as well, just too much money for the average Nintendo fan to spend stuff on and the 8 bit Links Awakening looking game with less marketing just didn't make the cut.

>>11799716
Getting filtered by those sections yourself doesn't make Ages a lot of fun and interesting for LA fans. LA has some confusing sections for retards, too, yet still remains one of the best 2D action-adventure games.

>>11799716
Bleak. Good thing for constant new translations and hacks of retro games and emulation for them getting better every day.

>>11805563
*doesn't not make