Thread 11785524

Been playing through these games, I'm now playing Future Perfect and it's dogshit. 1 and 2 were decent but they aren't really proper campaigns with how random and disjointed the levels are, then 1's levels are barebones and half of 2's are terribly unfun with annoying enemies/objectives (Neotokyo, Atom Smasher, Robot Factory with those homing rockets, Aztec, fucking hell).

I guess it was one of those "you had to be there" situations where it was fun with friends

>>11785524 (OP)
>random and disjointed
It's about time travel.

stop making time splitters threads you fucking retard

>>11785524 (OP)
agreed
timesplitters does not compare to goldeneye and perfect dark

>>11785725
I have made like one timesplitters thread like a bunch of days ago when I started playing the first one

>>11785736
Yeah I did like Goldeneye better too. It has the faster, more fun Timesplitters 1 style gameplay with Timesplitters 2's more elaborate mission design, and you get to play as fucking James Bond instead of random ass cartoon characters with mustaches

>>11785524 (OP)
>There will never be another based western developed game
It hurts bros

>>11785769
Elaborate, weeb

>>11785814
I'm lamenting how woke our games are now and we'll never see fanservice as blatant as in the TS games. Some eastern games still have fanservice but anime girls get boring and samey after a while. Western games are essential for a healthy video game babe climate.

>>11785524 (OP)
If this was a Nintendo GameCube exclusive, nintendo drones would worship it like Goldeneye

>>11785869
I am not gonna pretend like I don't appreciate Jo Beth's tits when they are bouncing around on my screen but only fucking losers care about fan service. Fan service, sexual or otherwise, is shallow and insincere by definition. It is just empty key jangling with negative artistic value.

Timsplitters 2 and 3 are the best console shooters of the 6th gen besides Halo 1 and 2. There's no argument against this.

>>11786029
Black is better. CoD big red one is better. Darkwatch, Cold Winter, Nightfire, Killzone, Urban Chaos, the list goes on
Fucking timeshitters such a weirdo fanbase

>>11785524 (OP)
>I guess it was one of those "you had to be there" situations where it was fun with friends
It was. Singleplayer Timesplitters is torture. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are more fun in singleplayer even though they're older.

>>11785869
>I'm lamenting how woke our games are now

How do people never get tired of complaining about this on this board? It's not "wokeness" it's just corporations churning out bland mainstream stuff that follows safe mainstream fashions like they always do. Back then, you could look at clothed ladies with angry faces running around in Quake III or whatever and maybe feel slightly excited by them in the moments before they shoot you to death, while now you can look at nude ladies giving you blowjobs in 2D indie games you buy on Steam. Is this really a step down? Come on dude, video game porn is bigger than ever. And also, according to what I see on the rule 34 booru, video game "babes" are still quite common. Yes there was a retarded controversy over Tracer's butt that wouldn't have happened back in the day, but... both before and after that played out, Tracer's butt was sexier than anything from when Paul Steed was still alive.

Go do an image search for "sexy fortnite characters" and try to pretend that TimeSplitters is sexier than anything 14-year-old boys are masturbating to today. Go on, try.

>>11786162
Black is an okay game, Darkwatch is shit, Killzone is absolute shit, the rest are actually good.

Timesplitters is just better than those though.

Does TS2 map maker actually improve that much over TS1? From gameplay it seems it's just same amount of the same "blocks" as TS1.

Are there more multiplayer maps generally?

Should I just skip 2 and go straight to 3? Story mode is irrelevant to me

>>11786484
>Should I just skip 2 and go straight to 3?
No, 2 is a vast improvement over 1. If you enjoy the challenges in 1, there is much more variety in what you actually do and the maps are actually designed with them in mind better. The story mode in TS2 is an actual game as well and not comparable to the "story mode" in TS1. If you could even call it that.
TS2 and TSFP are where the series define themselves and build a world. Very fun games to fight bots in the multiplayer too.

>>11786506
>TS2 and TSFP are where the series define themselves and build a world. Very fun games to fight bots in the multiplayer too.
Absolutely this.

>>11785524 (OP)
>1 and 2 were decent
1 was a barebones tech demo. 2 was the best.
>hey aren't really proper campaigns
Why? Because you say so?
>andom and disjointed the levels are,
And yet complains about the one with the last random level design?
>then 1's levels are barebones
You don't say?
>half of 2's are terribly unfun with annoying enemies/objectives
So are they random or unfun?
>Neotokyo
Easy stealth section and then you shoot shit a lot.
>Atom Smasher
Just shoot a lot of shit quickly.
>Robot Factory with those homing rockets
Homing rockets are garbage and most of the level is just shooting a lot of shit.
>Aztec, fucking hell
OH NOES, I NEED TO PRESS A LEVER AND FIND OUT WHAT IT OPENED!!! THE TRAGEDY!!!

OP is a faggot as usual.

>>11786412
>TimeSplitters is sexier than anything 14-year-old boys are masturbating to today.
It OBJECTIVELY is. Popular games having seductive characters is infinitely more sexy than indie hardcore porn bullshit or rule 34 slop.

Pic related will ALWAYS be a trillion times sexier than some Onlyfans freak taking 20 dicks.

Your brain is fried to shit if you don't agree.

>>11786587
Something being tantalizing is usually more hot to me, I agree. Also based Rayne enjoyer.

>>11785945
You sound like a genuine faggot trying to hard to be mature. Fan service is fine and more than welcome if the core game is good. The problem is most western developers as per >>11786412 aren't doing either because they are aiming for the casual gaming market instead of people that actually like games to some extent and watering down both the gameplay and the aesthetics of the games in the process.

Most games from the retro era, a majority AA to plurality of AAA games form the PS3/X360 era and a handful of modern AA games now have proven that you can have fanservice and good, authentic gameplay and compelling stories.

>>11786456
Mental illness

>>11786659
>You sound like a genuine faggot trying to hard to be mature
No, I am simply mature and you are not. You know this, at the very least on a subconscious level, so you lash out not to feel inferior. But you are inferior, because to you the most sophisticated piece of art is tetris with tits.

Stop jerking off to videogames you fucking loser.

>>11786587
So much this. There's no sense of sexual sensuality and seductive feminine aura in fictional nor real women nowadays. Modern female behavior is just grotesque and modern sexual behavior is so blunt, exaggerated, almost cartoonish to the point where it's laighable and a turn off

>>11787408

You are either a woman or a gay man just based on how self-righteous you are about hot women in video games and how much projection is in this post.

You are such a fucking dork that you can't enjoy life like a normal adult and have to become a mentally retarded puritan about harmless exhibitions of normal male sexuality. You genuinely sound like a unfun unhappy prick no one actually likes.

>>11787440
I am straight as fuck and horny as fuck, I just don't need all art and media I consume to make my pp hard. I still think nudity and sex can have a lot of artistic value (to the point I usually find myself on the other side during conversations like we're having right now) but that is very different from fanservice. Fanservice is when you make characters look like strippers or huge sluts when they are supposed to be like super no-nonsene, dead serious police women. Stuff like that, it's just stupid and distracting and feels out of place, it is just there for the sake of "sex sells" and getting weiners hard.

>>11787408
>Stop jerking off to videogames you fucking loser.
Only porn addicted zoomers think you have to fucking jack off to appreciate sexy visuals.

>>11787408
>No, I am simply mature
kek, were dealing with a distinguished gentle sir here.

future perfect is generic EAslop. 1 is fun but can feel dated and anemic, 2 is amazing, best music, best art style and aesthetics, every gun feels powerful and satisfying even if they do tickle damage like PAR, campaign still retains goldeneye style and isn't as barebones as 1's, best gamemodes and challenges etc.

>>11788792
Never got why people who like 2 dislike Future Perfect. FP has everything one can hope for in a sequel.

>>11786029
Based, though I like TS better because I never owned a Microsoft system. Played a ton of daisy chained 16 player Halo in the dorms back in the day though.

>>11788834
Me either, FP and SOCOM 3 both do a good job of chasing the Halo high and adding vehicles.

>>11788834
>>11789005
>why do people who want goldeneye dislike game for people who want halo & cod
GUUUUHHH DURRRRRRRRRR

>>11789018
How the literal fuck is Future Perfect more like Halo and COD more than Timesplitters 2 is?

>>11789263
Anything resembling a cohesive campaign is called slop by the average chan zoomie.

>>11787479
I just like seeing hot women in games if I can. I agree that there are a lot of games like TimeSplitters 1 have rather shite looking female models that would be better off not existing, but that doesn't mean that eye candy is automatically pornographic fap material. Sometimes dudes just like looking at attractive women and there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself, especially when it doesn't detract from a good gameplay/story experience.

Well I just beat Time Splitters 1. It kinda sucked but I wasn't expecting much anyway. Looking forward to playing 2 for the first time, then Future Perfect for the first time since I was a wee lad.
I played about in the map maker for a few minutes and got blasted with the most intense nostalgia I've had in my life from the music, it brought me back to my childhood, making maps in FP on hot and humid summer nights, with a breeze blowing gently through the window. Damn.

>>11785524 (OP)
These are couch multiplayer games, numbskull.

>>11785524 (OP)
>I guess it was one of those "you had to be there" situations where it was fun with friends
probably yeh. However, iirc Arcade Mode in TS2 was the best part for single player gaming. Getting gold/platinum was some euphoric shit. Forget the story mode and play through those instead.

>>11785524 (OP)
Actually the Timesplitters games are super based, you're wrong, and you're probably retarded.

This meeting is adjourned.

>>11790279
>doesn't mean that eye candy is automatically pornographic fap material
Zoomer have been beating off to porn since the moment they hit puberty. They cannot fathom looking at something erotic without fapping.

It's these types that call normal people 'degenerate coomers'.

>>11790279
>>11792267
There's the matter of sexism and objectification when you needlessly oversexualise female characters but I doubt I can have reasonable discussions about these topics on here so I am not going to bother. Just having mentioned the words is probably already enough to get people to go on shit flinging schizo rants riddled with buzzwords

>>11792773
>There's the matter of sexism and objectification when you needlessly oversexualise female characters

Sounds like a you problem honestly. Women are hot and God made them that way. All I do is follow God's will and thank Him for making His creation so beautiful,just as you should find mathematics, science, waterfalls and scenic views beautiful.

>but I doubt I can have reasonable discussions about these topics on here so I am not going to bother.
Because it's mostly a stupid point. If a woman isn't being exploited or demeaned in the process and doing all this shit willingly there's nothing wrong with finding them attractive. Simple as.

Here's your (You). Don't spend it all in one place.

>>11792773
>buzzwords
Ironic.

>>11792929
>Sounds like a you problem honestly. Women are hot and God made them that way. All I do is follow God's will and thank Him for making His creation so beautiful, just as you should find mathematics, science, waterfalls and scenic views beautiful.
God gave women more admirable characteristics than just their hotness. He didn't even give a lot of women any beauty at all. Focussing on just the physical aspect is disrespectful of the whole. Imagine if all people would ever say about Einstein is that he had a really fucking hot pair of balls. Like yeah I'm sure Einstein had nice balls people but is that really all we're going to appreciate him for? If I design a fictionalised version of Einstein, should I make a character design that is 90% focussed on drawing attention to his sexy scrotum or should I instead focus mainly on making him look like an extremely wise and intelligent scientist?
>Because it's mostly a stupid point. If a woman isn't being exploited or demeaned in the process and doing all this shit willingly there's nothing wrong with finding them attractive. Simple as.
I never said there is anything wrong with finding women attractive. Your weiner does what it does. I'm talking about choosing to portray them a certain way can be disrespectful to the character to reduce them to just a sex object, and it could even be disrespectful to irl women because you may make the implication that sex appeal is the only quality of a woman that matters.

Again, I am not trying to say sexy designs and sexuality in media is by definition evil ir something. It can be a very positive thing and it can have a lot of artistic value but if you cannot justify it from an artistic standpoint and your whole reasoning boils down to "well I like looking at sexy stuff" then the only value it has is pornographic. And I'm fine with porn too man but there is a time and place for it.

>>11792773
>I can have reasonable discussions about these topics
You're not being reasonable though, you're being pretentious and shallow despite trying to put others down for claiming they're doing the same thing. People are allowed to appreciate whatever they want from someone or something, regardless of whatever made up rules you created in your mind.

>>11785524 (OP)
>I guess it was one of those "you had to be there" situations where it was fun with friends
It was the cutoff of console splitscreen [FPS] excellence before Halo came in with LAN and then Halo 2 with Xbox Live, which was the utter end of sitting together.

But yes, the level editor and the customization of multiplayer made TS2 in particular reallly good. And people liked the music.

>>11793802
>People are allowed to appreciate whatever they want from someone or something, regardless of whatever made up rules you created in your mind.
Really, your argument is just "well uhm but that is just your opinion bro and my opinion is valid too!"? That doesn't invalidate any of my criticisms, you're barely even saying anything.

>>11791953
They are just schway at best, maybe even keyed, but not based

You fags need to stop talking about my series. You don't deserve TS. You know literally nothing about these games and you'll never be able to fully appreciate them. Pearls before swine.

>>11792773
>>11794382
Not that Anon, but sex sells and that is basically the end of the argument. I don't want to put words in that OP mouth, but it sounds like he is trying to say live and let live. Most people get annoyed by your argument, because if leads to censorship. Something that people have been doing since the inception of video games. I am old enough to remember how both political sides defend this BS. It boils down to think of the children every time. It's all so tiresome. I hate culture wars. Everyone is a hypocrite.

>>11793701
go back to blue sky.
>>11793701
>God gave women more admirable characteristics than just their hotness. He didn't even give a lot of women any beauty at all. Focussing on just the physical aspect is disrespectful of the whole.
ok, how gigantically fat are you?

>>11796047
>but sex sells and that is basically the end of the argument
So something is good if it sells? Is Avengers:Endgame the best movie ever made, better than Casablanca and Citizen Kane and the Shawshank Redemption?
I am not talking about reaching big audiences and making money, if you focus on just that you usually end up with pure slop. I'm talking about artistic value, but I'm starting to feel like you guys don't even see games as a (potential) art form or just don't care.
>Most people get annoyed by your argument, because if leads to censorship
Well I'm not advocating for censorship. I think people should be allowed to make whatever the fuck kind of game they want (unless you are making a game where you rape babies or something but you know what I mean). I don't think devs should go the way some modern games go either where they completely ban sexy outfits no matter what the character is like. I think Mortal Kombat is a good example. They had a noticeable shift from making every character look like a literal stripper to covering literally everyone up and I feel like the some characters actually benefit from getting covered up more while some fit much more at home in the "stripper" era. Like Mileena's design and character works best when she looks like picrel, but for a character like Sonya Blade it just felt embarrassing to see her run around in these revealing outfits and she got a lot better when they covered her up. You shouldn't mindlessly sexualising or desexualising EVERYTHING in your game, instead be mindful of it. Characters should be allowed to be sexy but don't overdo it. Don't make it "fanservice"

>>11796095
>no counterargument
I accept your concession

Btw I'm a hot twink and girls tell me I look like Kyle Maclachlan

>>11785524 (OP)
You're clearly a zoomer that new played couch co-op before. You know, when you played video games with people in person, and not just faceless retards online? Oh, that's right, your generation doesn't know what that's like.

>>11796221
But we did play couch co-op. Why are you so angry about zoomers anyway?

>>11796239
Stating facts isn't being angry. Amazing how fucking stupid people are.
>But we did play couch co-op
Larping/10

>>11796243
You sound mad though

>>11796179
To be honest, I am not very interested in having a deep discussion about sexism in video games, on /vr/ no less. Timesplitters characters and art is obvious satire even if it is cheeky and provocative. My honestly reaction is, if you don't like something, don't buy it. There are plenty of games out there that fit your profile of what you want. Enjoy those games. We have endless variety now. Bitching about a 20 to 30 year old game seems kind of pointless.

>>11793701
>Focussing on just the physical aspect is disrespectful of the whole.
i dont care. people dont deserve my respect.

>>11796297
you dont hate EA nearly enough

>>11796297
I was more bitching about 35 year old virgins wanting more bimbos and fanservice in games just for the sake of muh dick, than I was bitching about specifically Timesplitters (although Timesplitters does have a lot of examples of tasteless and pointless sexualisation). I think that part of gamer culture is absolutely retarded, and it only reinforces the idea that games are nothing but shallow toys for kids and losers who live in a basement, instead of an art form.

But sorry for bringing up a topic that this board doesn't like and doesn't know how to deal with

>>11796413
Anon, you are being really passive aggressive and I was very polite with you. It doesn't help you are using a fuck ton of buzzwords. You really don't sound like someone who comes on /vr/, or is in their 30's / 40's. It's not that people don't want to have conversations here, it's you just sound like are wanting to have some twitter debate in bad faith. I think games can be art, and one of my favorite games of all time is Ico. It doesn't mean I am going to start throwing rocks at everyone who don't personally agree with my opinion on everything. Maybe if you want people to respond to you positively, you should come at them with respect. /vr/ was one of the best boards on 4chan IMO. I learned a great deal from this place. Maybe you should relax a little and people will be more welcoming.
>>11796403
I know, along with a lot of other companies completely misunderstanding the vision of Timesplitters.

>>11796456
>You really don't sound like someone who comes on /vr/, or is in their 30's / 40's
Well I am not, I'm a zoomer and I don't post on this board a lot.

I also don't really fit the typical 4chan views at all, I'm very left wing and progressive but of course that will very often make anons sperg out into a violent rage so I try to edge my posts up a little (add a little slur here and there you know) to soften the blow. So yeah sorry if I maybe went too far but it's just such an impossible topic to bring up on this website, people will not respond positively no matter what you do

>>11796498
Congrats for shiting up a thread for one week with politics and off-topic shit. I'm sure it left a good impression on everyone. Now fuck off.

>>11796586
It's my own thread and I didn't even bring it up in the first place.

So sorry if I was being rude maybe (on 4chan), but nobody was able to prove me wrong anyway

>>11796598
>It's my own thread
You aren't needed anymore.

>>11796601
Am I being kicked out of my own thread? My own thread that I built with my own hands??

You cannot do this... I'll call the jannies!

>>11796498
It's okay. There are may young posters on this board and most of them are really cool. I just don't think it's the best place to start slinging shit for an unrelated topic in your own thread. People aren't going to respond well to it. Just be yourself and you'll fit in. Don't try so hard Anon. /vr/ was really a wonderful place around when it first opened. One of the kindest boards where you could learn anything about retro vidya games. If you want to make some thread about this topic, made a thread about it. I don't think anyone is going to care about a stealth sexism thread in a TimeSplitters bait post. BTW, don't lock yourself in with us vs them ideas. Trust me, peoples opinions here and everywhere are wide and vast. We aren't a monolith.

TS2 was the first game I ever bought with my own money. Spent years playing it with friends, unlocking everything, making cool ass maps, and did the exact same for TSFP. Never complained about the controls because I dom't suck at video games, loved the hot half naked chicks because I'm not gay. The games hold some of my fondest gaming memories. One of the coolest series ever, was too pure for this gay earth, and everyone in this thread is a fag except me. Get the fuck away from my 'splitters.

>>11785524 (OP)
It was made to be a 2 player game where you got high and shot baddies. It's not a 1 player game really.

>>11796997
Yeah I spent too much time on the worst boards on this site and kinda forgot that other places can just be chill.

I appreciate your chill vibes.