Lightfoot Village... shit... I'm still in Lightfoot Village...

I'm sure it's a fine game by itself
I'm also sure the Star Fox series, and world even, died here.

FUCK THIS GUY

>>11785995
It wasn't meant to be a Star Fox game. Krystal was supposed to be the main character, but higher ups at Nintendo saw her design, said the looked like Fox, and demanded that it be turned into a Star Fox game. The original game was called Dinosaur Planet.

>>11786131
Wait a minute wait a minute. Next thing you'll be telling me that mario 2 wasn't supposed to be a mario game.

>>11786131
>keep about half an hour of her gameplay before having her fail her mission and say jk it's actually Starfox
I guess that's one way to do it

>>11785987 (OP)
the closest we would ever come to a sequel to Ardy Lightfoot

>>11785987 (OP)
Nigga you're in the forest temple

>>11786114
I can't find any scan of the guidebook for this game but I swear they tell you to take a pen, retract the tip or use the other end, press it on the button, rapidly move it on and off the button.

This is a very vivid memory I have but I can't tell if I'm combining internet advice with the guides "good luck" advice.

>>11786131
Yeah I know. It's basically doki doki panic level information.
Again it just reinforces my opinion that it killed Star Fox's world, which should've just been furry Star Wars(specifically the x-wing dogfights). But a lot of people love Krystal and I'm not gonna yuck their yum.

>>11786114
>>11786329
The internet told me to use a spoon and it worked for me.

>>11786131
>Krystal was supposed to be the main character, but higher ups at Nintendo saw her design, said the looked like Fox, and demanded that it be turned into a Star Fox game.
Not quite correct, there were two main characters you played as: Krystal and Sabre. Sabre looked like a brown wolf (or maybe he was supposed to be a fox) and used a sword while Krystal used a staff, I think he was supposed to be the more melee character while Krystal was supposed to be more of a magic user. IIRC Krystal is also supposed to be his adopted sister.

It was Sabre that the higher ups (Likely Miyamoto, he was the one responsible for the same team turning what would have been a new Starglider sequel into the original Star Fox) thought could be replaced by Fox, and Krystal was then reduced to a damsel in distress role since they wanted it to focus on being a Star Fox game, and also because then they could no longer use the adopted sister concept and I assume they figured having a magic unga bunga fox girl running around with a sci-fi space fox would not make much sense. (Though Fix not being allowed to use his blaster also made little sense, their in-game excuse for it was pretty flimsy). Not sure how much of it was a suggestion or demand though.

>>11786329
This guidebook? Or a different one?
https://archive.org/details/star-fox-adventures-nintendo-players-guide/page/62/mode/2up
I don't see anything about any special ways to pass that test in this one.

>>11786384
Yes, that one.
I probably got pissed that this offered no advice besides "just mash A, bro" and looked up online how to do it.

>>11785995
>I'm sure it's a fine game by itself
No, it really isn't. It's a great technical demo though. As a game it's worthless.

>>11786187
Doki Doki Panic was released without the Mario reskin.

>>11786114
rare developers really did be like "Dude, you remember how much people hate when we put rubberbanding in mashing minigames? Remember how much people hate Canary Mary? ...What if we did it again?"

>>11786114
This part was crazy
I remember i had to ask my dad for help beating it

>>11786131
I mean, we won in the end, but still, Dinosaur Planet had the potential to be a top rated IP on all its own by the looks of it.

>>11786961
>we won in the end
The leaked version is still missing important stuff.

>>11787574
I doubt there was ever a complete version, they likely pivoted to making it a Star Fox game before Dinosaur Planet was close to being in a releasable state.

In fact, isn't the leak that surfaced from when AFTER Sabre was already partially modified to look like Fox?

>>11786329
I invented a technique of waggling the controller beneath my thumb, turning myself into a human autofire. To this day, it is my life's greatest accomplishment.

>>11785987 (OP)
this game should have a remake

>>11786114
I thought I was going to have an anyeurism on this part
I dont think I've ever played a game that demanded this kind of button mashing

>>11786114
The grand filter.
If you didn't beat, you're not a Star Fox fan.

>>11786131
You forgot the part the creator of the franchise wanted her to look more like American adult comic slut.

>Retro was working on a Panel De Pon rebrand reboot
>Gameplay looks like it could be SFA2 but it's looks like some Winx Club spinoff too
>absolute dumpster fire project, Nintendo had to step in put it out of it's misery
If they pitched it as SFA2 with Krystal as the lead, it would have got the greenlight, considering it's success. But i dunno what the hell Retro was smoking back then.

>>11789787
>Both Imamura and Miyamoto both thought Krystal should have more sex appeal.
>Krystal is the first female Rare character that Shigehisa Nakaue really liked.
>Imamura considers Krystal the heroine of Star Fox Adventures.
Literally everyone was obsessed with this fox.

>>11786187
>So this guy who Brits call him "ciggy Shiggy", decides to delay OoT for a year because he thought BK would steal all the spotlight from it. Imagine what he thought when he heard they were making a Zelda Clone.
Did it go something like that or was it one of those happy accidents like the arcade DK?

>>11790860
>When you decide to make an adventure game out of a railshooter and the only "on paper" reason is because you thought the characters looked good.
You then commission Namco to make the "coolest" version of the same IP before the adventure game you always wanted even sells a copy.

>>11786114
one of the most based moments in any game
the trick was to save your energy for when he rubberbands later and then go full pelt at the end

>>11789784
Glad it's dead then, if this is what starfox is

>>11790989
He.
He RUBBERBANDS!?!

>>11786335
>yuck their yum

go back to your hugbox and die

This was the first starfox game I ever played and it is the only good one. I was super disappointed when I went to the other games and fox never gets out of the spaceship even ONCE. The original games are retarded spaceshup shooters when Fox is obviously a run'n'gun/beat em up protagonist.

>>11791273
I think this was the reaction of everyone who learned about Fox from Smash Bros., which was most people

>>11791273
>I was super disappointed when I went to the other games and fox never gets out of the spaceship even ONCE.
But he does, in Star Fox Assault (also 64 in multiplayer, unlockable).
I mean, it's not really necessary for these games when you have the Landmaster and Walker.

>>11791258
I've been here fore 19 years, redditor. Sorry to yuck your yum, cry somewhere else faggot

>>11791273
Assault is also mainly the Fox crew out of their ships, which a lot of people didn't like
>Fox is obviously a run'n'gun/beat em up protagonist
There's too many of those, not enough simple straight forward space ship shooters that weren't shmup dribble

>>11786367
>their in-game excuse for it was pretty flimsy
What was the excuse?

>>11791434
To quote General Pepper at the start of the game: "It's always the same with you, Fox... shoot first, ask questions later. Your mission is about saving the planet, not blowing it up!" Minutes later, Fox encounters a faction that is clearly hostile, but he found a stick so the possibility of using a gun is never really brought up again.

At least with a landmaster, stupid as it might be, we can imagine something related to Fox needing to open forcefields in order to land. It's still stupid when you get to Dragon Rock, a man says you need to break shit, and Fox - the leader of a space-faring mercenary team with access to aerial support and orbital bombardment, or at the very least man-portable high explosives - says "What am I supposed to use, this [staff]?"

>captain scales wasn't meant to be fought against in the original Dinosaur Planet and instead the final boss was a surprise giant floating head, just like Andross
What are some other "did you know" memes that went full circle?
Other examples being that Yoshi's Island's original japanese title was going to be SMB5: yoshi's island, effectively making it a sequel to SMB4: SMW, and doki doki panic actually starting development as a super mario game

>>11786114
I really should replay this game at some point, because I don't remember this part being hard at all. I think it took me like 3 tries back then.

>>11787624
>In fact, isn't the leak that surfaced from when AFTER Sabre was already partially modified to look like Fox?
Sabre's model was also on the leaked build AFAIK

>>11786114
Easier than the MGS torture scene and the Metal Slug 2 subway cars. Test of Fear was more frustrating.

>>11791707
Still ridiculous that he's not allowed to even BRING his blaster in case of an emergency, that's some reckless endangerment from Pepper. Unless they are trying to imply that Fox can't be trusted to bring a blaster and only use it in an emergency. While I haven't played ever Star Fox game, from the ones I have played while Fox can be impulsive he doesn't come off as THAT impulsive or reckless. Falco maybe, but Fox seems to have more self control than that.

Like I said, it was a pretty flimsy excuse to try to explain why the Sci-Fi space fox with FTL tech is running around using magic unga bunga weapons, since the game was never originally supposed to star sci-fi characters in the first place.

>>11791734
Starting to feel like it's exaggerated. I remember when I replayed Psychonauts and everyone was talking about this one hell challenge/achievement on Steam near the beginning of the game that's near impossible to do, your character in-game even has a PTSD-like comment when it's referenced by some NPCs later.. yet.. I did it first try with no effort. Same with Spyro 2, played it on PS1 for the first time a little while ago, I heard everyone talking about some infamous trolley level, apparently even the trailers for the remake referenced this.... took like 1-3 tries. This is coming from someone who is not good at difficult games mind you, not that I would call Star Fox Adventures, Psychonauts, or Spyro 2 difficult mind you.

>>11791916
Isn't the one on the ROM just an older partial version meant for some specific animations or something?

If Adventure didn't leave people confused, mixed, and with a bad taste in their mouth, Assault would be better remembered as a interesting experiment and not just "why is Fox out of his ship again"

>>11786114
This is the only time I enabled the turbo function in dolphin

>>11792475
>why is Fox out of his ship again
Because Miyamoto needed to sabotage someone else's work.

>>11785987 (OP)
Tribal dinos are so sexy

>>11793009
Can you blame him? He saw Krystal and knew his fursona needed a waifu

>>11793210
>He saw Krystal and knew his fursona needed a waifu
I forgot that he literally turned into Fox during E3 2015

>>11785987 (OP)
The biggest problem I had with this game was the absolutely fucking retarded decision and reasoning for not letting you use your blaster.

>>11791273
>The original games are retarded spaceshup shooters when Fox is obviously a run'n'gun/beat em up protagonist.
Smashbaby detected
Are you also going to say that "F-Zero is a retarded racing game series when Captain Falcon is obviously run'n'gun/beat em up protagonist"?

>>11793568
Captain Falcon doesn't have a gun

>>11793573
You should take those pills

>>11793568
>>11793573
Captain Falcon is a gun-wielding bounty hunter in the lore.

>>11786114
doesn't this one actually base the next difficulty on how well you did the previous round?

so it actually makes it preferable to sandbag the first rounds of this shit

>>11793573
he has two guns

>>11795428
Someone saw the outfit and decided that he's just Judge Dredd.

>>11795428
I could have sworn Capture Falcon shot first

>>11793568
I wouldn't say that because the original f-zero (the only one I ever played) artwork doesn't have anything to lead me to believe that the game would be a run 'n' gun. Starfox SNES has Fox outside the ship with his gun. I should expect at least a portion of the game outside the ship.

>>11795428
I've never seen this stuff, but, if this media were a lot more prominently promoted, then yeah, I would say it's fair to assume that F-Zero is a run 'n' gun if this were all you saw.

>>11796543
He kinda of is. Falcon is an ex-cop, turned bounty hunter and racer.