Thread 11787335

Discuss CRT TVs and monitors. post your finds and setups.

Previous >>11751487

stand I found for free on the curb today. has that early 2000s look to it - charcoal gray and glass.

>>11787335 (OP)
>gored out monitor for the OP
This is like posting a skin-suit.
Please spoiler next time.

The CRT hobby is dead

>>11787427
sour grapes much

Do you guys ever get them repaired, or just get new one?
For the former, do you do it yourself or have someone else do it?

I really really want a widescreen crt but I've never seen one

>>11787365
This picture is older than you.

>>11787427
Just buy one off of a boomer, or find it on the side of the road. Stop being a baby.

>>11787427
I found three 27" for free. One trinitron for $100 dropped by $50 already, he would probably take $50-$75, a bunch of Trinitrons under $200, an Emerson and RCA for $25. You're just poor and lazy.

>>11787335 (OP)
Oh shit. I have my 20" component input Toshiba I bought a week before 9/11. It's still working pretty well and I got my N64 and SNES hooked into it. Used to have my PS2 and GC hooked into it with component cables for both. I even made my own homemade switch for it since there is only one set of inputs in it.

I also have my pic related still. It's in storage. Weighs 195lbs and was the last HDTV Trinitron Sony made, and it has an HDMI input. It was glorious playing PS3 and Blu-rays on this thing. I am going to try and sell it since I have no room in my house now. Probably on eBay with local pickup only, unless there is a better way.

>>11787335 (OP)
don't have any recent finds sadly

>>11787647
FB marketplace is better for local stuff, but also has many retarded time wasters on it. Still, it being Sony and CRT it will sell.

yeah i got like 60 pvms for 20 bucks back in 2008, happen to live next door to a tv station and was walking by when they were stacking em' up outside to get rid of em'. just tested all of em' and they still work perfectly. don't really use em' though and ain't gonna sell em'.

>>11787905
Let's see em

>>11787496
What's the rain fall like in these side of the road places? Also
>flytipping
Do people just dump shit by the road where you live? Genuinely curious because I hate flytipping and want to see harsher penalties introduced for it where I am.

How long until composite video purists start making retro RGB to composite encoders out of spare Sony CXA1145 laying around? or is that a bridge too far for Mister-sisters and emufags?

why repost this thread when it is archiving from inactivity? crtfag era is over since all the good sets are bought up an hoarded.
>>11787459
It's simply reality anon. I have more CRTs than you.

>>11788136
>RGB to composite encoders
why would you do that? Why not just use composite output which almost every retro console has

>>11788136
Emufags are already doing composhit via shaders, dum dum.

>>11788423
that has nothing to do with what he asked, retard

>>11788136
You can already buy these from that New Zealand guy on ebay IIRC

>>11787502
Hey, three for free! I’m gonna call you three for free.
I have a PVM and hi res CRT monitor, why do you have three 27” TVs?

So, I'm planning on getting a PS3 mainly for use as a media center, and I've picked out one for cheap that can be softmodded with CFW. But I've heard that when you output directly to RGB, it's limited to 480i/576i, but that this is not the case when you use component cables. Anyone who can clear this up? I only have CRTs that take RGB, not component.

>>11788739
Yeah that's how it works. I don't know of any CRTs that take 480p+ over RGB anyway unless you count VGA/RGBHV

>>11788920
I just googled it to double check after posting and it looks like ps3 can do 480p over scart with a weird sync on green signal. But anything above 480i/576 from scart rgb output is rare

>>11788547
with the original 80s era composite encoder?

>>11788920
I'm not concerned about resolutions above that, just the fact that it's apparently limited to interlaced. Won't that cause issues with some content?

>>11789080
I misunderstood what you were asking. it won't play ps1 or ps2 games that use 240p correctly since it can only output 480i/576i. That applies to component cables as well at SD resolutions. The majority of ps2 games are interlaced anyway but it ill be bad for ps1 especially.

>>11788739
If media is your main purpose, you can use a raspberry Pi as a media center/streamer instead. Much smaller and quieter. I've got a 3B+ running running OSMC outputting over composite to a CRT. Maybe they can output RGB too, I don't know.

>>11789132
Not planning to use it for that anyway, I'll be using a PS2 for that. The Slims don't have actual MIPS hardware anyway. I'm planning to play PS3 games on it though, but that's beyond the scope of this board.
>>11789340
I would need extra RGB converters etc for that, PS3s can be really cheap in comparison and that's why I'm choosing this.

Take the Philips & Thomson tube pill and never look back

>>11789369
If you are playing ps3 it will look fine. interlaced what 90% of people were using when ps3 came out. The real problem on 7th gen is widescreen only games with illegible text.

>>11789407
I think its best to ignore brand and just test everything that seems desirable in size, shape, and connections. You can have all varieties of brands using the same tubes. You never know how good it is until you try it out.

>>11789407
a seller I know has a Phillips 1557AS crt monitor but I cant seem to find it on the database or anywhere else, anyone wanna help me out?

>>11789760
https://web.archive.org/web/20000831060942/http://www.nashville.net/~griffin/monitors/Phili11.html

Had to find an archive of a page from 2000 that was mentioned on the list of fixed frequency monitors: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~brians/comp/monitorlist.html

>>11788562
>free
I wonder why.

>>11789850
yeah it doesnt show pictures either, rip. I'll try to ask the guy if he can send me pics of it cause I hear good things about philltra4sips

>>11789854
I have self control so I don’t just take something because it’s free.

>>11789495
I kinda wanna get a widescreen CRT as well but they're fuck-huge and also generally flatscreen.

>>11789879
Yikes, antisemitism.

Help! What is wrong with my CRT? How do I fix it?

It worked perfectly before I move to a new apartment.

>>11791226
Degauss it.

>>11791250
How? I thought the tv did that on their own.
I get my arm hair to stick out every time I turn it on.

>>11791250
degaussing isn't gonna fix that. it looks like he transported it face down and broke the shadow mask. It's fucked

>>11791345
Thanks anon.

>>11791376
Sad the TV died. It's happened to me before. I quit putting them face down after that. Just bring some come alongs

>>11791473
It was the movers.
I found it on the street so I'm sad but not sad-sad.

>>11791535
Damn movers would have been pros at it back in the day. They just don't know how easy they break now

It’s not a big deal, just vaguely annoying, but can I do anything about this shadow near the centre of the screen?

>>11791803
Can't really tell by the photo but it's probably one of two things:
>burn in
You'll have to live with it.
>color purity issue
This you can fix in several ways. If you're lucky, your monitor will have a "Landing" option in the service menu. Adjust that until the color is uniform across the screen. If your set doesn't have that option, you can physically move it so the screen is facing a different direction (the Earth's magnetic field affects CRTs, so having it face magnetic north/south is ideal). If you don't want to re-orient the thing, you can open it up and use convergence strips or disc magnets to correct it. The hard way to fix it would be to adjust the yoke itself.

Is this guy from my parents basement totally screwed? This is the only steady picture I can adjust it to make, about the first inch of picture repeated across the screen. (I know a test pattern would have been better but I wasn't thinking)

Was able to help move the biggest CRT in the world on Saturday. It was fucking insane.

>>11787335 (OP)
I used to make/sell a bunch of those crt aquarium kits while everyone was trying to get rid of their old tvs/monitors. pretty cool, but always thought it was too small to keep fish in healthily

>>11791621
Two 20yo guys, I'm sure they don't even remember CRTs...

>>11791226
magnets
>>11791268
TV's Degauss by actually turning off and not going into standby, turn it off and give it five minutes before turning it back on, if that doesn't work you have to do it manually with a special tool

>>11792339
Where did you move it to?

>>11788562
Based retard, I found those on marketplace.

>>11792339
pretty cool if true, that thing is massive, but frankly the rescue story is the coolest part. are the crt cataracts distracting irl?

Spent an hour tweaking the service menu on my Panny Tau as best I could. Geometry is still a little wonky being a flat CRT and makes me want a curved one, but not terrible. Turning down the color saturation and contrast down and the brightness up helped the image the most.

>>11787335 (OP)
Recently gotten a Daimondtron Apple CRT which doesn't work on Windows out of the box and needs a special board + ADC connector.

Got the connector from a G5 and planning to get the board printed locally.

>>11793256
Curved ones can be a hit or miss too, I've had some with pretty nasty geometry. I think if the sides aren't distorted then some wonky geometry can be acceptable.

I set up my 32" Wega and have been using it for a while. The colors are great and the scanlines are sharp, but feels a little weird to play 240p games on it. 480i games feel right at home in it though.
I think for me a 27" TV from the 90s with S-Video might be peak 240p gaming.

>>11791972
are you sending it a signal outside of its frequency range? if not, i would say the h. hold needs adjusting, but i've never seen that on a monitor. if it's a proper signal and not the horizontal or vertical hold then as far as i know it would require more in-depth diagnosis.

>>11793663
Yeah it was the frequency, I was just rawdogging it into a PC without a second monitor to actually change the settings.
Another question, anybody know how these knobs work? The thing is currently working in 640x480 and these don't really seem to change anything when I change their setting.

>>11793832
thanks, bro

>>11794215
Try aligning the 800x600 pot only and see if it takes that resolution then. If I'm guessing the model correctly then it might only do 1024x768 with interlaced scanning because of it's low horizontal scanning frequency.

>>11793765
Nice setup. The color lights are ugly though. Is that an apple CRT on the left?

>>11794371
those "color lights" are a crt projector bud. and yes that is an apple monitor.

>>11794730
huh i was under the impression crt projectors are insanely blurry and not worth bothering with

>>11794371
>The color lights are ugly though
You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>11794784
That is correct.

>>11793765
Do guys on Grindr compliment you when they come over?

>>11794784
You're probably thinking about rear-projection TVs. Those are ass.

>>11794784

CRT projectors can be insanely sharp. high end crt projectors can take inputs from 240p to 4k60 with faster response than any modern monitor. most people don't bother with them because they are big/heavy and annoying to maintain.

>>11794730
Having to sit off to the side seems kind of awkward.

>>11794796
Can't say I've seen one of those before either, and I'm 40. DLP has been around a longgg time.

>>11792392
From a smaller platform to a larger one
>>11792736
Not at all, you can't even see it when the TV is on. Yet there are a million people online who have never even seen it in person that will tell you otherwise. I got into a bunch of pissing matches with people on Facebook who didn't believe me until Shank came out and said I wasn't lying

>>11795808
It can do up to 960 i, at least that's what we did when we were playing on it. Weighed 450 lb and took six people to move, had to swap the TV stand, put it on the pallet, then pick it back up and put it back on the TV stand all to swap the wheels it was sitting on. I've had a ton of fucking sets, about 80 or so, but that was definitely cool to see in person. You really don't understand the curvature of trinitron's until it gets massive like that, gorgeous. Retro tech got pissy and said I was a liar and stole other people's photos until he had to apologize, which sucks because I generally like his content.

>>11795808
When everybody was playing for player Kirby air ride pack it was like everybody had it 21 inch screen, cool as hell. I'd say those flat wegas would never be worth it at this size though.

>>11794730
does the projector handle medium res input? i.e. above standard but below 30kHz? golly, it looks sharp

>>11795818
Retro tech is a clueless fucking retard and you should not like his content. Engineer wannabees are the worst

>>11794796
Wut? colored LEDs are a trend with kids

>>11794730
Ah so you are just a "faggot". My mistake replying to you.

>>11794730
I meant how the room is blue retard. Not the projector

>>11793440
Use a retro tink on the WEGA and you'll never want to go back

>>11796159
why would you use an upscaler on a normal SD CRT?

>>11796143
Maybe it's blue because what's being displayed on the projector is... blue?

>>11787335 (OP)
Found this Samsung monitor on the streets, but it's missing the power supply. Do you guys know where I could get one?

>>11796428
Just plug in a power cable bruv. Every household should have at least a few of these lying around. The power supply is inside the monitor.

>>11796096

Yes, the G70 takes anything from 15khz up to 110khz. 240p scanlines are beautiful. When focused you can see individual scanlines at higher resolutions, up to about ~800x600, if you're into that sort of thing. Some CRT projectors can scan even faster (Sony G90 can go up to 150khz). The 480i flicker is a little more intense on a projector than on a direct view CRT, but higher interlaced resolutions can look really sharp, as they keep the pixel clock down. Also, light gun games are great on here.

My treasured CRT monitor (picrel) that I have loved and used daily for 5 years, which has moved with me from home to University acommodation, to house share with friends, to moving in with my girlfriend and my first home has stopped working and I don't know what to do. One day it was fine like normal, and the next it just wouldn't turn on. I press the power button and the little light just flickers and I hear a light ticking noise, but it never changes, just carries on ticking and flick(er)ing. What do?

My console setup on the other hand is going well, this shitty little ugly 14" CRT/VCR Combi that I picked up for £5 is doing me well. I just got the RCA switcher from Amazon today and now I don't have to unplug each console when I want to play (it has one single SCART connector and nowt else), with just a flick of a switch I can go from SNES, to N64, to PS2, I'm in the market for a better/bigger telly but this will do for the foreseeable.

>>11796457
Change that Pepsi can for a Budweiser and that vape for Lucky Strike.

>>11796428
This nigga can't read the label. Input voltage is right there

>>11796463
>Budweiser
I'm sober these days as I was a daily using opioid addict for around 3 years, before that it was cocaine and alcohol. I actually don't enjoy booze at all anymore so it's more out of choice than out of "I have to be sober" but I either am gonna be an opioid addict, or be sober, so I be sober and spend my money on Warhammer and Retro hardware.
>vape for Lucky Strike
On this one you have a point, a good cigarette can never replace a vape, but I vape for the convenience of just being able to do it constantly. I have smoked on and off since I was a kid, heavily at some points, lightly at others such as now. I am more of a rollup smoker but only really have a few a week and a 50g pouch of Amber Leaf will last me like 3 months.

>>11793765
Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior, that's a nice setup.

>>11796457
Something similar happened to one of my monitors. I opened its back and blew the dust off with a vacuum cleaner, nothing fancy. Put it back together and it turned on like normal.
It's a long shot, but worth it if you don't have much time to mess with it.
Otherwise, learn to read voltages and to solder.

>>11796462
that crt looks nice. i like how the buttons curve in toward the VCR

>>11796428
just use one of your 10 power cables from old PCs and TVs. you did keep them right

>>11796164
this bullshit
https://crtdatabase.com/articles/retrotink-composite-decoding

if you have nicer stuff than me i hope it all breaks down fuck you

>>11797307
This is fucking insane. What's even the point of this besides consoles that output only composite? You could just use a component/RGB cable if you have these inputs anyway.

>>11796462
Why do you have those blindbag toys targeted at 30yo millennial women?
And sex and the city?

>>11788136
Mister already has composite support with an adapter. I have the analog pro io board which has it built in. Works great.

>>11797391
My gf's of course

>>11797307
that seems retarded when you can just use s-video or rgb

>>11797409
>>11797352
those are too sharp and destroy muh dithering and developer's intention. you need composite shittiness but not too much.

>>11797419
I think the left picture in that comparison looks better. That retrotink ruins the colors. And if you were going to be autistic about muh dev intentions they intended dot crawl if they intended composite

Recently adjusted the yolk and focus on the 32"

>>11797575
>yolk

>>11797617
You think this is a yoke?

>>11797575
Should've turned the rings to get rid of that vertical bowing as well. It could use an overscan adjustment, too.

>>11787489
I still had a widescreen 32" Panasonic Quintrix HD CRT TV about 13-years-ago circa 2012. It could do 720p and 1080i. It weighed 90kg/200lbs.

>>11797575
lol my hungry ass thought those seinfeld dvds were boxes of macaroni

>>11788739
I use a WD TV Mini as a media player for my 27" Sony Trinitron CRT TV. I also have a Sony VCR hooked up as well. It's a kino set-up. I watched the theatrical cut of Dawn of the Dead (1978) on it last week since I could only find it as an AVI file to torrent online.

>>11797575
I'm fucking jealous and angry you lucky jammy little cunt

>>11797934
Those only seem to have composite output though, and I don't think they were particularly common in my country. The reason I need to use older hardware is because of the need for analog output, otherwise I would just use some modern TV computer.

>>11794806
Ask your dad he came over.

>>11797391
lol this anon lives alone

>>11797575
Me and my wife have that same Ikea trolley.

>>11797868
Hahahahahahaha.

What are some good CRT brands I should look out for?
If Facebook Marketplace isn't an option, is there anything besides eBay that I could use?

Newfag here, been wanting a CRT for a while now, but few questions:
>What are some good CRT brands to look out for?
>If Facebook marketplace doesn't work, is there any dedicated reseller for CRTs, or is eBay the best choice?
>Good furniture for the CRT/consoles and games below it?

>>11797617
lol, am retarded, surprised i didn't kill myself back there.

>>11797868
>It's fusilli Jerry!

>>11787335 (OP)
moving in 2 weeks, my childhood crt crapped out and only other one i got is a huge fuckoff 3 foot wide monster thats been in storage past while. still works but need anons suggestions on the fuck to put it on, i know modern stuff cant handle the weight of that 160lb bad boy, havent had any luck with finding a retro stand for it at goodwill. Might get a utility cart if i can find one for cheap but so far theyve all looked pretty gay and overpriced. any suggestions, anons? used to keep that one on a dresser but its loooooong gone. How do you typically poorfag a fuck off size crt stand? or do i call it quits on the old beauty and buy a smaller trinotron that'll actually fit on a modern tv stand?

>>11798391
Drive to pick anything up, don't get delivery.

>>11798860
Just get a 13" one you can carry, makes life a lot easier. I'm gutted I don't have my 20" one any longer for old media I use but it is what it is.

>>11798391
To add, what size is good? 20" minimum, right?
>>11798873
Facebook marketplace isn't really an option over here...
I plan on getting a JVC or a Panasonic off of eBay along with some SNES RPGs.

>>11798230
It has composite and component outputs, but no HDMI output. That's why I thought it was the perfect match for my CRT. It can't even decode x264 files. I only watch AVI and XVID files on it anyway. I've actually watched a few films on it so far just this year. I have a VCR and PS2 (for DVDs) hooked up to the CRT as well, anyway.

>>11787348
what if someone jizzed on it

>>11788136
I would genuinely use something like this since I have everything in my setup wired with component but I recently added a commodore monitor that only has composite input.

>>11798897
20-27" is what most people like but some people prefer huge sets and tiny ones.

more projector scanlines

>>11798897
i think 13 inches is enough if you play on a desk. but from a couch at least 20

>>11799903
how big can the screen size get on that projector before it starts to get noticeably worse in quality? Looks like probably 60 or 70 inches in your pics

>>11798897
27" if you want two player.

>>11798391
FB market works, just be patient and persistent. That goes for the TV and furniture. Good deals get snatched quickly.

>>11799903
Sick. Colors look vivid

I really need to stop being lazy and pick up the Panasonic vhs set that a guy has had setting out on his porch for weeks now.

>>11789407
Pretty sure I saw a Thompson set recently while I was working my delivery route, but i didn't recognize the brand and had no room in my van. Was going to pick it up off the curb the following day, but someone smashed the screen out, probably because the garbage men wouldn't take it.

>>11800350
I run it with an 80" screen, the projector is about 83" from the wall. It's rated for 1200 lumens which is pretty low compared to modern projectors. I would run it at 100" (~1.5x area compared to 80", would be ~2/3 as bright) if I had more space and better light control, but beyond that it would get pretty dim. No complaints at 80".

Anyone know of any good technical writeups or videos about how CRTs worked? Like how the video signal is processed and how the electron gun displays the image on the screen? And so on. I've been wanting to research the topic a bit for fun.
>inb4 wikipedia

>>11800841
Which projector do you have? I have wanted one for years but don't really know how to sort the wheat from the chaff

>>11800959
Sony VPH-G70
Check out Curt Palme's projector rankings page.

>>11800841
very cool. How did you come across it? I've never seen a CRT projector anywhere for sale in the last 10 years. I'm guessing there aren't many of them that still work.

>>11799903
That looks so much better than any other pics I can find online of the same projector.

Okay let’s settle this once and for all. How do you prevent dandruff from getting inside your CRT? I’m tired of the smell.

>>11800337
Mine is only 5.8" and works well.

>>11801031
Saw it on fb marketplace about six months ago and knew I had to have it. Wasn't looking for one at the time and didn't really know anything about them. The tubes are usable for about ~10k hrs if you don't run them too hard, which is much longer than a typical DLP projector's lamp life. Considering how they were used (home theaters, businesses, universities) some of them are still in decent shape. It might take a few months but I think you can find a good deal if you're looking and willing to drive.

>>11801051
I think that's mostly down to getting the exposure right on the camera. If you're looking at pictures from a reddit thread, you're likely looking at the same exact projector, the OP was the previous owner.

>>11801081
Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for one.
>>11801076
It's how you use it anon

>>11787335 (OP)
do you guys use your crts to play newer stuff to or only old things, ive played like all the switch pokemon games on mine and also the 3ds ones and the ezio ass creeds games via ps3 i think they look great on it

>>11788739
>I'm planning on getting a PS3 mainly for use as a media center
ps3 is honestly awful for media palyback even with homebrew

>>11796462
>I picked up for £5 is doing me well.
how on earth did you get one so cheap all shitty crts like this are on facebook market listed as like "retro gaming tv" for 100 quid

>>11801094
when you google it there's a dozen different people with them and they all look worse. I don't think he's the guy from reddit. There's multiple people with them that posted and they have different setups

>>11798230
>>11797934
teh 1st gen apple tv is a pretty good system you can add kodi to it the best build is kinos2 https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=363320 it does clean componenet output, and if you add a broadcom crystal hd it does 1080p video up to 8 bit. its what i used until i got a decent hdmi to component converter

>>11798860
instead of tv stands cant you jsut grab some like used wooden coffee table

>>11802154
I'm genuinely impressed that an apple product actually had RCA component video output and not some severely autistic proprietary connector

>>11802149
It was a second hand furniture shop/recycling centre where they get all their stock donated and they sell it on, tthey have old people and down syndrome spastics "working" there, it actually had a sticker on it for £20 but I just swapped it out for a sticker that said £5 from another item and the down syndrome guy didn't question it.

>>11802217
kek based surprised they even had crts i thought they werent allowed to be sold assumed thats why they just end up in the tip never see them in charity shops etc. they always have so many in the tv cage when i go down the tip been tempted to go in and take one but its scary lol i got a wii + box of games from the electronics bin when i was down there last year theres always so much good shit there but its a giant metal skip thats like 4 metres tall or something so you can only grab stuff when its full to the top

>>11802217
Why did you steal it instead of fully paying for it?

>>11802267
Hey I'm no nigger pal!
But honestly, because replacing a sticker is a lot easier than picking up a CRT TV and running out the door with it

>>11802249
Thanks anon. I got it when I was visiting home for Christmas and I lugged that thing on a 6 hour Megabus from Reading to Leeds in a Sainsbury's bag for life lol. But to your point yes only some of them even take CRTs, I saw another CRT in a similar place in Leeds a few months ago, it was an absolute behemoth, like 30"+ big but unfortunately I was alone and on foot, gf was at work with her car and couldn't get hold of my mate to come pick me up with it so I left it, went back to see if it was still there a few days later and it was gone.
>but its scary
Honestly mate just go for it, you won't regret it, they're only getting more scarce and in the rare event someone asks you what you're doing or whatever offer them a tenner for it, which they'll probably decline and just leave you be

>>11802316
well i dont exactly need one i have >>11802141 i drove up to liverpool to buy it like 2 years ago was a 10 hour round trip lol but maybe ill see if i can be ballsy enough next time im there and sucks about that 30 incher

>>11797307
I think left looks much better. Either way, composite looks weird on a big set. I'll reserve my Wega for component gaming and use composite on my smaller 20" set.

there's a mounted crt still in use connected to a security cam at an autozone near me. would hipsters pay a premium for a tv with an autozone entrance burned into it?

>>11803374
No. Unless its sony then probably.

>>11803787
i dont get why people like sonys so much theres way nicer jvc/panasonic units and theyre cheaper because theyre not sony kek

>>11804163
Youtubers and reddit bandwagoning. But this is good, let them have all the Trinitrons with 40k hours and fucked convergence, while we get much better stuff in the meantime

>>11804163
>>11804180

Many prefer the aperture grille look over slot and dot masks, and not just for hipster aesthetics but also for measurable performance. Aperture grilles can produce brighter and more saturated images with the same amount of power because the grille blocks fewer electrons. They are sharper because inline electron gun configuration and vertical phosphor strips allow for better convergence and focus.

>>11804256
This is only true if you are talking about brand new units. Trinitrons wear down faster losing brightness and convergence quicker than shadow masks. If you compare sets with moderate usage a trinitron will typically look worse in uniform sharpness and brightness.

I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that trinitrons are sharper. They are less sharp than shadow masks even brand new and lose sharpness faster due to alignment drift. Their main advantage is brightness and more accurate colors. And they lose both of those advantages to shadow mask once they have a decent amount of hours on them.

>>11804180
Is there a correlation with hours and bad convergence? My Wega has pretty nasty corner convergence, but I've seen pictures of the same model that looked fine.

>>11804273
You raise fair points, especially regarding long-term drift and phosphor wear. Trinitrons can degrade faster in some scenarios, especially in consumer sets without regular recalibration. But in terms of brightness, vertical sharpness, and color fidelity, they start out ahead and often dominate in professional use cases (broadcast monitors, high-end CAD, color grading). Whether they look “worse” over time depends a lot on the specific unit, usage patterns, and maintenance. A well-maintained Trinitron still beats most shadow mask sets in critical image quality even after 10,000+ hours.

Hi /crt/! I'd like for yall to post your setups!
I need references. I have a 10ft wide room and have a 4 foot wide desk, and a good 36 inches in my right corner to add a small shelf with a CRT on it. However, I cannot find anything that fits well, so I'm wondering if choosing a new desk entirely (curved desk) where the front is my current setup, and to my right is my old games and shit with a shelf (see pic rel)
Any advice? I've already got some choices if I have to stash the furniture in the corner but a new desk is something more appealing

>>11804630
what game is she playing?

>>11805047
She's watching the hubby play bomberman

>>11804503
I've never been able to discern a brightness difference between a shadow mask and trinitron that are properly calibrated for blacks. A lot of what you are saying is sony marketing fluff. Trinitron doesn't have better "critical image quality" whatever that means. There are advantages to both and shadow masks usually have superior uniformity and sharpness. Maybe the trinitron has hypothetical higher brightness but you don't want your monitor any brighter than proper blacks. I've never seen a side by side comparison that favored a trinitron over a high end shadow mask.

Recently picked up this CRT. My workmates' gran died and nobody wanted it. Got the stand from marketplace for £5. The 2 consoles and the computer, I've had since they were released pretty much.

>>11805150

>sideways photo

No idea why that happened

>>11804518
I suppose I’ve got a really wide setup

>>11805069
There are controls for both ends of the spectrum though. You calibrate blacks with "brightness" and how bright the whites can get with "contrast". Shit has been mislabeled for ages, but I'm sure they meant the second one with "Trinitron is brighter". Not like it matters much, it has to be really sunny and bright for me to go beyond the half of the scale with contrast on my Sony, I usually keep it down as I like to play in a dark room.

>>11797575
pretty good cat drawings honestly

>>11805351
Whether you are talking about contrast or brightness trinitrons aren't necessarily superior. It's just marketing.

>>11805158
my samsung phone does that when i upload photos. vertical on my phone but sideways on 4ch

My CRT died months ago so I bought this picrel 19inch bravia from goodwill never been happier.

>>11805676
You've got to be fucking kidding me? Though I have enough systems and games to start a rental service. I have a few portable crts and a nice large Trinitron too. Would it be lucrative to open a store to rent systems to play? there was an arcade called rays video when I was a kid that let you rent systems for an hour at a time in the store. It was the coolest arcade around, had a play house area, used games/videos for sale and a nice little arcade section to boot. I remember buying b.o.b for SNES and alttp there. Good times.

>>11805906
Yuck. LCD peasant.

>>11798860
Make a stand

>>11805906
Are you retarded? just use a modern LCD with better upscaling. There's no reason to use old LCDs.

>>11804424
Not in theory I think, but I've never seen a high hours Sony with good convergence, especially in the corners. If I had to guess, it's probably heat from working for so many hours that loosens up the yoke and the little magnet strips. I currently have a 4k hours and 30k hours Trinitrons and the convergence is much, much better on the 4k one.

>>11804163
it's like an iphone vs android thing. Even if there are better features on a cheaper phone iphone fags are brainwashed by branding to never consider the other

>>11802141
on crt monitors, sure

video games?

>>11791226
Note: I'm a gifted psychic so you should listen to me above everyone else**
What you need to do is move back to your old apartment. In your new place there is very bad auras from past trauma and it is interfering with the TVs divine energy waves. (Your TV not working is the least you have to worry about with this.)
I hope this helps if you need any more assistance and have cash app please let me know!

>>11807910

This guy is cuckoo. It's not divine energy, CRTs electromagnetic waves are influenced by the Earth's core as well as cosmic radiation from space. Wrapping your CRT in aluminum foil blocks these energy waves. I give this advice for free to all

>>11798897

Completely depends on what your viewing distance will be. If ebay is your only option, I wouldn't get above 13 inch shipped as the risk/cost increases dramatically above that.

>>11805158

Take photos with phone horizontal.

>>11805158
You need to send the photo to your computer and post it from your computer.

What is a good, inexpensive way to capture footage from a CRT and stream it on Twitch/Discord to friends?
Is it really still just an AV/HDMI and a Elgato?

>>11809365
RGB SCART splitter with a GBS-C and an HDMI capture card of your choice.

>>11809370
>inexpensive

>>11809365
There are cheap composite capture cards on Ali. You could use the av out from the TV and connect to one of those. I'm not sure how well they work though.

>>11802142
only if you plan on playing hd stuff. i use my ps3 exclusively for playing old 4:3 tv shows in 480i and it perfect.

>>11797393
None of that would be authentic to 1980s era composite video encoding.

>>11807681
give me a 14l5 right now

>>11810186
ah okay when i got mine i tried using it and it just made me mad lol

What happened to /g/ CRTs threads? Did they finally catch that german guy?

>>11800956
anywhere you look you'll find the same thing about crts: elecron guns create three electron beams, which are accelerated and excite R G and B phosphors on the face of the crt. if you want more details than that, pick up a book. sams, grob, what have you are good for older sets. get an older book for explanations of older technology. off the top of my head i don't know any books for crts with ics specifically, but go ahead and keep looking. i would also recommend having a more broad understanding of electronics. no matter what the technology used, tvs from the beginning of color to the advent of hd all are doing pretty much the same thing, so any book should explain the way the signal is processed for display. as an aside, there are also books about hdtv signals. for specific details about how a certain model of tv works, the circuits are in the schematics. sometimes service manuals even include written descriptions of individual circuits. for technical details of the color signal itself, you can look at the ntsc (or pal or secam or whatever) specifications. wikipedia might be a fine starting point. not all of this information might be what you're looking for, but these two articles give a pretty broad overview:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_television

tl;dr: books

>>11801067
it is unfortunately unavoidable

>>11811294
How do I go about learning how to fix a CRT? Let's say I have one that does not turn on at all, what should be the first thing to check and how?

I know this is the worst place to ask, but are CRTs actually kind of a meme? I recently got one for the first time in about 20 years. The only thing really good is the motion clarity, and the glow that illuminates the room when playing at night. The graphics I could take or leave. Playing 2D games on my LCD with scanlines look just as good, and in some ways better because of no geometry issues. I also can't help but notice the sound is a bit clearer. Maybe my CRT speakers are just aging or something.

I don't know. Using a CRT is fun but it just feels like I'm clinging to the past. It doesn't blow my mind as much as I thought it would after going so long without it.

>>11811820
The fuse would be the first thing to check. As long as the TV is unplugged it's safe to replace it if it's blown. If the fuse blew at your house you might want to figure out why first though.

>>11812021
You either have a shitty CRT or a really good modern TV. Or both. Sound on old TVs is usually better but you should be running your audio to real speakers anyway. Built in speakers all sound like ass compared to a sound system.

I thought it was immediately a huge upgrade to to playing retro upscaled. Are you using a good connection type? Composhit and RF look awful when you are used to the sharpness of modern displays. If you still aren't impressed using at least s-video then I would say it's not for you.

>>11810320
sorry bro, i need it for the closed captions (not a single device in CIS is capable of that)
>>11811820
you look up the how a crt works in general first.
https://www.repairfaq.org/sam/crtfaq.htm
how power suply, horizontal deflection, protection systems etc. work in a given device.
check supply voltages (circuitry won't work without them), check B+ dc high voltage (horizontal won't work without it), etc.
basically you deduce the cause of the problem starting from the power supply, most of the time it's cracked joints or bad capacitors, sometimes bad semiconductors.

>>11811820
visual inspection first, look for obviously bad parts, cold solder joints, circuit board cracks, etc. i'd say for no power check the power supply first, including the power button. modern crts have a standby circuit for turning the tv on when it's off but plugged in. check that, too. checking the power supply basically entails measuring voltages to see if they're correct, from ac input to all the voltage rails. having a schematic is useful here. don't try and measure voltage that your multimeter can't handle, be careful not to accidentally short anything while probing, and shut the thing off fast if you have a collapsed raster. obviously don't touch high voltage. use an isolation transformer and the one-hand rule if there's no power transformer. if the problem is a bad component, make sure the replacement you put in is suitable. if it's a fusible resistor replace it with a fusible resistor. if it's a capacitor make sure the voltage rating is equal or higher. that sort of thing.

>>11812021
What TV did you get? Not all TVs are good out of box, some need adjustments to get a cleaner picture.

Hi /crt/. I have a general question.
Trying to do a modern PC setup with a CRT to my side. Cannot decide on a l shaped desk, or a long desk that goes wall to wall.
Any suggestions?

>>11812592
kek'd

>>11813172
im pretty happy with how mine fits right in the corner of the L on my desk
i think it depends more on the layout of your room

>>11799427
No ifs about it, I definitely did.

>>11813849
Actually really good set and easy fix, but way too heavy.

>>11802142
What's wrong with it?
>>11802154
Can you make it output RGB? None of my CRTs have YPBPR input.

>>11813849
That one showed in my feed too. You must be in the southeast. He's going to have a hard time giving that away given the size.

>Live in Latin America
>Basically have unlimited CRTs all around me
>But not a single HD one or a PVM
I just want a widescreen one, that's all I ask for.

>>11815250
Those are rare everywhere.

got a free 13" w/ a built-in VCR for free while garage saleing today. VCR works which is cool, and unexpected. I have it on my computer desk for maximum ADHD-mode.

Got a 13" for free while garage saleing today. VCR works, which is cool and unexpected. I have it on my desk for maximum ADHD-mode.

>>11815250
I live in LATAM and my city ran out of good CRTs.
I regret not picking up a 16:9 Panasonic Tau when it appeared, it was a bit above $100 which was a little too much for me.

>>11802141
Looks pretty good, what kind of connections do you use to hook up your modern consoles on that?

>>11787427
it's been dead for over a decade

The PC I was using for retrogaming died. Not sure if it's just the RAM (2 sticks at the same time? What are the chances?) or the motherboard, but it made me realize shit's old and I should look for an alternative. Should I get a Raspberry Pi? Or would I have to then spend extra on accessories and connectors? Could I plug my old GPU with CRT Emudriver with that?

>>11814830
oh it just sucks for most hd media it wont work properly
>>11814830
i have no idea about rgb i dont think so though ive never seen that mentioned anywhere

>>11815702
i use one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Component-Converter-Scaling-Function-Compatible/dp/B0CT3LGDPS a little pricey but it will actually downscale to 480i ive tried a bunch of the cheaper options and could never get them to work and returned them

>>11816407
A Pi on its own only does 240p through composite, if you're fine with that it's good. It's not extremely straightforward but it works. The whole kit including power supply, memory card etc. should be around $50. Crtemudriver is Windows only.

>>11816852
Nah, they do RGB through a hat really well

whats a decent composite/s-video switcher? also should i just cheap out and get one of those dual composite/s-video cables for my consoles? i dont really want to spend 50 bucks on s-video cables for my saturn/dc over a third of that by comparison.

>>11816859
>on its own
Is someone selling them? I did a quick search and it looked like everything was years old and not being made anymore.

>>11816885
yeah insurrection industries makes em

>>11816885
RGB-Pi is a pretty cheap and easy one
It also automatically scales to what you want

>>11816894
>>11816897
Thanks, guess I have more options than I thought, once I get a TV with more inputs.

bump

>>11815314
based i got a vhs player recently to watch the pokemon movies i quite liked the ads at the beginning lol

>>11788739
I don't have the answer to your question, but I have been using a CFW PS3 as a media center for about a year now and would like to share.
The PS3, without any modifications, can play most video files off a USB or external drive. I use a 3TB external drive loaded with movies, cartoons, and anime that are 4:3. Right off the bat, the two biggest problems were overscan, which the PS3 natively suffers from, and the fact that .mkv files are not supported. Another issue was the lack of support for subs, which meant needing hard-embedded subs that would usually get cut off due to overscan.
The solution to these problems came with the homebrew program Movian. Movian lets you adjust the scale of the video, which lets you get around the atrocious overscan. It also has support for subs, but it isn't as versatile as any other PC media center app, so I still use hard subs.
Movian also supports .mkv files, with the big caveat that there may be slowdown due to the way the file was encoded. I'm not gonna pretend I know a lot about video files and video encoding, but basically, if the file was encoded in 10-bit, it's not gonna play at the correct speed and will stutter like hell. Another big problem with Movian is the lack of DVD and Blu-ray support. You can't pop in an official release of something and play the video using Movian, so you're still stuck with that horrible overscan on DVDs. As a side note, Blu-rays on PS3 will also play incorrectly, as they suffer from extreme underscan.
I'm sure there are other means of setting up a CRT media center with more versatility and support, but I still like the PS3 due to PSX and PS2 support with a wireless controller. And the fact that I'm retarded and struggle with most computer stuff.
TL;DR Movian saves PS3 as a media center, but you're gonna want hard subs on anime, you're gonna need to make sure every file is encoded in not 10-bit, and to avoid all of this is you're using DVDs or Blu-ray. I just use PS2 for DVDs instead.