Thread 11802917

Why hasnt it been remade yet?

Yeah the game with beautiful timeless 2d sprite artwork really needs a remake with modern zoom zoom graphics

headline consumers make me sick

Stop begging for remake

It's embarassing

>>11802923
I wanna see
my family
my wife and child
waiting for me

I sincerely don't understand why people like this game, aside from it's visuals and OST. The actual moment to moment gameplay is awful.

>>11802925
It's Castlevania, what's not to get?

>Devon Lord-Mincrief
Couldn't get a more dicksucking name even if he tried

>>11802927
>can't die from falling to a bottomless pit
It's not Castlevania

>>11802927
A severely watered down version of it, sure.

>>11802917 (OP)
your parents should remake you

>>11802920
here's why

Castlevanias historically are not million sellers
The only ones that did crack a million are SotN and Lord of the Shadows.

A shitmake would do even less and Konami has been picky with their ideas (unless you're a Onions Hell fan)

>>11802927
>generic jarpig
>Castlevania
Yeah and the gaylo fps clone that is Metroid Prime is Metroid.

Who in their right mind would call any game that isn't Final Fantasy™ VII the best game of 1997?

>>11802962
You made this thread just so you could post that image

>>11802931
>>11802932
>>11802946
Better for a series to try new things in a new game rather than trying and failing to recreate the original when you can just play the original.

>>11802965
cringe

>>11802965
But you'll never prove it.

>>11802973
quick photoshop work

>>11802967
There's a third option. It's called "refinement", which is what they had been doing through Rondo to great success.

>>11802967
Agreed, which is why im waiting for a proper 3D Metroid that isn't FPS reskin and a 2.5D Metroid that isn't another Fusion rehash.

As for Castlevania, i like to see something creative like with what Bloodlines did.

Chrono Cross redditors gotta be the most unfunny sect of algozoomers on 4chan.

>>11803002
Yeah because this was definitely a necessity, not a detriment for anyone who just want to play an advanced nostalgic release.

>>11803014
He's making fun of remake zoomers though.

>>11802917 (OP)
>I want the same experience but different but the same and I want to pay full price!
Mental illness

We did get Rondo remake

>>11802946
>gaylo clone
>Metroid Prime
Anon is insane

>>11803029
more like demake

>>11802917 (OP)
I thought they already did on the PSP or was that Rondo of Blood

>>11803029
This remake was shit because you had to play through enough levels just to unlock a port of Symphony on the PSP

>>11802917 (OP)
Because remaking or remastering old classics is gay and they should instead be making spiritual successors of similar quality.

>>11802967
Is that why the following games kept recycling this SotN over and over? IGA even said the reason why SotN was allowed to be so different from the series' norm is because it was conveived as a spin-off.

Also Castlevania 64 pulled what you claim much better without forfeiting its roots.

Why does this board get so defensive about even bringing up remakes? What's the reason for that? Do you have similar issues with remasters or just plain ports too?

>>11803085
I imagine I'll get dogpiled for this, but I don't even like translations desu

>>11803085
hate em all. play originals.

>>11802995
I wouldn't know, I play originals

>>11803085
most of the time they don't add anything worthwhile and are just straight downgrades

>>11802917 (OP)
>random konami shovelware
>best game of 1997
k lol

>>11802917 (OP)
SOTN isn't even the best 2Dvania that goes to Ecclesia

Don't we have ports on Ps4 and shit? That's good enough.

>>11802946
Ignore this obvious troll retards. And I don't mean troll in the bastardized modern "person I disagree with" sense, I mean this is someone looking for a reaction
Anyway
>best game of all time
It's great but lol

>>11803002
>yo unc this shit is hella outdated no cap 2D gaming is some ohio no rizz thang frfr
? This was an extremely common opinion in the mid-late 90s. 3D gaming was the future and 2D games were retrograde. Zoomers obsess over 2D indie games, especially when they rip off Earthbound.

a remake would actively devalue it. you can play it on modern systems and phones already.

I am so sick of hyperbole. No, it's not the best game of all time, and it's not the worst game of all time either.

>>11803193
>extremely common opinion
Success with the masses- with that one drops in my respect forever; failure- I prick up my ears and begin to respect.

>>11803058
>NOOOOO WHY CAN'T I HAVE EVERYTHING UNLOCKED FROM THE GET GO????
>WHY CAN'T I BUY DLC???

>>11802917 (OP)
>why hasn't this been ruined yet?

>The Best Game of 1997 is Still the Best Game of All Time
Mega Man Legends? I agree!

>1997
could have been made in 1992

>>11802946
Wait they turned Castlevania into a fucking RPG? Why the hell would they do that?

>>11802917 (OP)
Because NO, it shouldn't.

>>11802942
Circle of The Moon was the first one who sold 1M worldwide

>>11802962
>>11802917 (OP)
Castlevania 64 remake on Super Switch (second generation)?

>>11803453
>Avoid launch version/standard edition to get special edition
DLCfags ruined gaming

>>11802917 (OP)
The PSP dub might as well be a remake.

>>11803468
Saturn port already exists.

>>11802919
>Yeah the game with beautiful timeless 2d sprite artwork really needs a remake with modern zoom zoom graphics
I wouldn't mind if they put it in 16:9 and remade the sprites and backgrounds for modern large sized LED displays, maybe throw in some extra content and challenge modes.
Doesn't need to happen, the game is fine but I like when old games are updated for modern displays. I get why some people are reflexively against it when shit like picrel happens but there are remakes that put in the effort. Ninja Warriors Once Again, Wild Guns Reloaded, R-Type Dimensions and Cotton Reboot immediately come too mind.

>>11802931
>can't die from falling to a bottomless pit
It's the best Castlevania

SotN was 10yrs too late. Best game ever made came out in '86.

>>11802917 (OP)
>sotn gets a full 3D remake
>its a souls-like

Why would it need a remake? At most, I want a version of the game which adds a Hard Mode toggle and then also some of the stuff which was exclusive to the Saturn version, just for the hell of it.

>>11803085
I like some remakes, but many aren't good, and many remakes and remasters in the last decade have just been incredibly underwhelming. There's also that whole "... for modern audiences!" cancer which is going around these days, and which makes me wish for for these people to die.

>>11803029
>>11802962
eerily similar

>>11802917 (OP)
People who say this game is great are not really interested in the "game" part of "video game".

>>11802917 (OP)
if you've played the Rondo remake you'll know why you don't want a remake of SOTN.

Also Konami how they are now I don't want them anywhere near any video game period.

>>11803568
Why are you a dishonest and hateful faggot?

>>11803582
He's right.

>>11803582
How can you say this game has good game design with a straight face?

>>11803589
You're a pitiful hater and a nigger. What brought you down to this level?

>>11803032
He's not wrong
>Prime 1 was reintroducing the Metroid series as a Halo competitor
>Prime 2 ripoff Halo multiplayer to compete with Halo 2
>Hunters, while Quake-lite, lore-building was trying to set a le epic universe ala Halo lore
>Prime 3 was straight up Halo, where even one of the artists jumped ship to Halo 4
>Feddie Fart was Halo ODST
>Prime 4 might become where nu-Halo was since or Reach

>>11803581
>Also Konami how they are now I don't want them anywhere near any video game period.

This. So much this. A lot of studios in Japan have been taken over by marketing executives and people who don't know anything about game design. Konami is one of these casualties. Any attempt at a remake would be marketing's attempt at fanservice with no idea of what really made the game good. The guy who made Castlevania into Castlevania is not with Konami. He now does the Bloodstained series.

I'd love to see an HD version with the same sprite art, just with the ability to upscale to modern screens. But you know it would go wrong. We're all better off just playing Bloodstained instead of wishing for a remake at this point.

>>11803596
Have you played any other Castlevania games, by chance?

>>11803593
The exploration is fun, the wide variety of differing equipment to try out is interesting and sometimes fun, and it has a very nice presentation overall.
I don't think it's the best game ever, it's kind of a hodgepodge in some ways, and it's very easy, but it's enjoyable. The GBA and DS games refine its formula much further.

>>11803640
Yes.

>>11803632
>The guy who made Castlevania into Castlevania is not with Konami
There was years of Castlevanias before Igarashi was put at the helm, don't get too hasty.

>>11803645
Great! Do you pay attention to the games you play closely enough to describe the differences in behavior between the Axe Armor in Rondo and the axe armor in SotN? Or, perhaps, the bone-throwing skeletons?

It really needed a no exp mode and grinding caps, like make it random for the first 100 enemies of a type you kill and then a guaranteed drop, but if a player is willing to kill a thousand of them for an item then there is no reason to make them waste all this time.

Also they really have to fix those retarded inputs for the spells, they really don't work most of the time.

>no matter the case, a Xenogears remake will be ruined by SE, it's consultants, and credit card pedophiles/watchdog groups telling companies what to do
>and they'll let it happen while Nintendo gatekeeps Mother 3 from any western release
pic related is honestly better than what we'd realistically get. I don't like the Octocrap look, worse use of pixel art ever.

>>11803650
I haven't played either in almost a decade. Is your point that SoTN is much easier? Because everyone knows that.

Also, Xenogears da bess.

>>11803654
The issue isn't that it's easier. Easy games have their place. The issue is the way that it's easier.

>>11802925
>The actual moment to moment gameplay is awful.
weird way to describe symphony's problems. the momeent to moment gameplay is ok, alucard controls fluidly and enemies behave as you'd expect. it's just really unbalanced stat wise.

>>11803753
I disagree. The most efficient movement option for half the game requires inputs likely to cause an RSI, and many of the enemies have severe design flaws. Flaws that are very obvious when you compare them to their Rondo counterparts. Alucard's stats being over-tuned is only mildly problematic in comparison.

>>11803029
DXC is legit a great remake with new content, better level design and more challenge than the original.
Only posers hate it.

>>11803770
>The most efficient movement option for half the game requires inputs likely to cause an RSI
"the most efficient movement option"

>>11803828
That's what I said, yeah.

Truth be told, those who beg for remakes or modern re-butcherings should be banned off /vr/ on principle.

>>11803835
Do you actually find yourself compelled to do the fucking backslide constantly when playing, or am I misunderstanding you? You come off as a deranged freak.

>>11802917 (OP)
Because it was popular before modern style remakes got big
SotN got an XBLA and PSP port, ten years after it first came out

>>11802917 (OP)
because it's already the best. it's impossible to improve upon. zoomer

>>11803892
You seem uninterested in having a productive discussion, so I don't think I'll be engaging with you further.

>>11802927
circular reasoning fallacy, try again

>>11803902
That's true. Unfortunately XBLA and PSP are dead now so we don't have access to those ports.

>>11803938
The XBLA port is still available on backwards compatible Xbox One and Series systems, and it was available on the 360 store right up until that got nuked last year
The PSP port is still available on the PSN. You'll need to buy it on PS3 or a PS Vita but you can still download it directly on a PSP. The PS1 original is also available on the PSN for PS3, PS Vita and PSP.
Cost is between 10 and 15 bucks depending on your region.

>>11803541

Outrun isn't even a good game.

>>11802917 (OP)
I will literally petition AGAINST a remake for this game. It's one of the few games that's perfect exactly as it is. Don't fuck with perfection.

>>11802917 (OP)
it's already been remade several times with glorified handheld reskins

>>11803773
This, but it only looks right on a PSP screen

>>11803632
Thoss shallow 8-bit imitations they call Bloodstained will never be on the level of proper classic Castlevania.

>>11804049
Yep, true

>>11802917 (OP)
it's timeless and doesn't need a remake

we're probably getting a new CV collection for Steam and modern consoles next year with SoTN, Rondo and whatever else there's left to port

>>11804461
Collections are a thing of the past. They'll share a launcher that's free to download, each game will be dlc and cost $60-$80 each. This will be marketed as for the consumers benefit since they won't have to pay for games they don't want to play.

>>11804461
I thought Sony had exclusive rights to Rondo and SotN, which is why only PlayStations get any re-releases of them.

>>11803482
Ikr, so gay, just like Adi Shankar

>>11803493
>No sauce
Contrarian of the Moon sold jack

>>11803029
>>11803773
Cringe and not retro

>>11802917 (OP)
>Western gamers didn't want 2d games anymo-

>>11804714
It's a remake of a retro game and it's allowed.
Also, nobody cares about /vr/'s rules after the 2020 fraud.

1. Never met anyone who genuinely thought that was the greatest game of all time.

2. Because Konami hates video games more than they love money ? IDK

All they would have to do is pay any of the the dudes who makes the bloodstained/blasphemous/DEADCELLS/etc games to remake it and they’ll easily turn a nice profit.

>>11804678
When did that happen ? Assuming after the Saturn port of SOTN ?

>>11804730
Sleeper hit

>>11802946
Metroid Prime gigamogs all the jap Metroids (and gaylo) thoughbeit

>>11803628
>Prime 1 was reintroducing the Metroid series as a Halo competitor

Do you lie to your family with that mouth?

>>11803938
>Xbox Live is dead

Another lie.

>>11804678
why does snoy have rights to a pc engine cd game

>>11804752
At least sometime after the X360 port.

>>11804979
Because they had the money to buy it.

>>11803932
fallacy fallacy, idgaf

>>11804713
Is Google-fu that hard for you to use, retard-kun?

According to this infographic, it did 600k in Europe and North America combined by year-end (?) 2002.

Bonus:
>Vice President of Marketing at Konami of America Chris Garske reported Mario Club, the internal Nintendo product evaluation team in Japan, gave Circle of the Moon a 97%, which is the highest score it had ever given to a third-party game. “We feel this speaks very highly of the game’s quality,” Garske said in the press release.

>>11803927
Sidedashing is the fastest way to move in Zelda OoT, but no one ever mentions it as being utterly ridiculous or the only optimal way of travel.
Exploiting the back dashing is the same; most people won't do this because they are not deranged speed runners

>>11803193
No actual person thought this, only retarded gaming journalists

>>11805240
Thank you for confirming my suspicion that you're not arguing in good faith.

>>11803535
>Night Slasher
Should work into a sequel

>>11805249
I wasn't even the guy you were replying to, but from the sounds of it, you have no argument.

>>11805296
In that case, I'd encourage you to go back and re-read what I wrote, and reply to what I actually said rather than ascribing positions to me that aren't mine.

>>11802917 (OP)
It's a great game but some of GBA games are better, unfortunately for them the GBA is much worse hardware resulting in games that aren't as pleasing to look at nor listen to.
Also
>Image by some jeet name
Why are Indians taking credit for Ayami Kojima work?

>>11804049
>>11804360
Looks better on a Vita screen

>>11802917 (OP)
>some retarded nobody made a blogpost
>this justifies my opinion on it
Absolutely dumbshit take, anon.

>>11804730
It sold less than Turok.

>>11802917 (OP)
remakes are for retards

>>11805638
>>11804730
>>11803839
>>11803773
>>11803559
What about Nintendo PlayStation demake?
>>11779592

>>11803652
Its very hard to ruin shit.

>>11805724
Will you please knock it off?

>>11805848
Let you know.

>>11805724
>"Doom on a calculator" #57685475436
what a waste of time, should've added the Saturn content to PSX instead, at least that would have had some merit.

>>11805394
wrong resolution and wrong colors

>>11806148
>Saturn content to PSX instead
Konami might well release that for Super Nintendo Switch and PS5

what are peoples thoughts on playing the nes games on emulator vs anniversary collection? I have both setup but not sure which one I wanna bother with

>>11806876
It comes down to whatever one you prefer. I'd go off which controller you like more, IMHO.

>Study the lore behind EVERY weapon in SotN
>All but one is based off of a story or legend from the real world.
Wtf is the Sword of Dawn?

People who beg for remakes shouldn't be allowed near video games.

>>11803193
British gamer reviewers must be the most joyless excuses for humans in the world

>>11807841
Damn, they reached all over for some shit.

to elaborate on remake hate: these older games are beloved largely because they were well-done for their time. Now there's a million metroidvanias, good and bad, all over the place. But the games that did it first, and really well, are remembered for that exact reason. Asking to remake a classic video game is like asking to re-carve the statue of David, re-paint the Mona Lisa, re-film The Godfather, or re-build the pyramids, "but better this time!" Just leave it alone. You can perfectly emulate the experience if you want to relive it. There are mod communities to change things if you want. Truth is, original classics can never be truly remade.

>>11802917 (OP)
SotN is cool but come on

Castlevania has always been clunky shit gameplay. Contra is better.

>>11807924
What if Contra...was a rpg like SotN?

>>11805626
And? Turok was a huge deal.

>>11807927
Speaking of contra, why hasn’t Konami make new entry for TG-16/PCE?

>>11802919
>>11803535
Shouldn't be hard at all. We have AI upscalers now. It'd literally be free. Some details will obviously be lost in the process, but at least it'll hurt your eyes less.

>>11808019
And doom, and duke 3d, and Wip3out, and Crash, and Spyro, and Mario 64....

>>11808035
Autists on this board tell me Doom is a 2d game.

>>11808037
Mostly 3D, it just skips one or two things. It's got an X, Y, and Z axis, everything has a height and defined width which is factored into (almost) all collision/hit detection, things are just a bit primitive compared to later technical developments.

>>11802917 (OP)
>Why hasnt it been remade yet?
That's interesting, if they actually rebalanced the whole thing, make the inventory smoother and put all the fucking consumables in a different menu on top of adding content from PSP and Saturn versions, I'd be willing to play it.
Unfortunately when it gets inevitably remade, it's likely they'll change the script to a worse one, keep the gameplay as it was on PS1 and add shitty 3D graphics or something

>>11802924
this

video games and politics are stupid distractions

both are unfulfilling and boring

>>11803193
>Music sounds like an afterthought
Kvetching over 2D vs. 3D is one thing, but this opinion is fucking bonkers.

>>11802923
If a game is already pretty good, what is there to remake.. I get remaking a game which had good concept but fell short, for example.

>>11808032
Asking for AI upscales for a 2D Castlevania should be punishable by death

>>11805249
>arguing in good faith.
Ironic

>>11802917 (OP)
That is not DOOM.