>Wise old man veteran who fought alongside your dead father
>36
What the fuck.

>>11806025 (OP)
Animals don't live as long as humans.

>>11806025 (OP)
they all have sex with men lol

>>11806035
Some do and some live longer than humans do. Way to show how dumb you are.

>McLoud

>>11806037
>Average lifespan of a hare: 2 to 4 years

>>11806036
Sex with Peppy Hare

>>11806045
Don't just blanket statement animals like a midwit. Everyone here knows that those animals don't live as long as humans, but those animals also don't become pilots with metal legs and talk in real life. It's a videogame and you're a dumbass.

>>11806050
We'd still outlive them.

>later games make it so peppy retired
I hate this. Peppy retiring is an indicator of how a shit star fox installment is.

>>11806065
We certainly outlived the franchise.

>>11806065
We already did outlive them. Lots of people did not, unfortunately. I'm sure some people's kids were killed by foxes as babies. Its not uncommon for foxes to attack toddlers.

>>11806025 (OP)
All of humanity is getting older due to time compression. For the same reason we are living longer than even our grandparents.
Yes, in the 90s it was reasonable for a 36 year old to be the team's wise experienced guy. The average age threshold to be considered a "young, inexperienced protagonist" is being pushed further and further back in japanese media. More and more works now depict 18-25 year olds as practically teenagers, while 30s are the new 20s.

>>11806075
The plural is "foxen".

Weird how Fox is 25 when most Japanese protagonist are even younger.
Same goes with F-Zero's cast. Damn near everyone is 30+.

>>11806087
It's not, kek. I do like it though.

>>11806082
>Yes, in the 90s it was reasonable for a 36 year old to be the team's wise experienced guy.
I think it's mainly because 36 is gonna be "old" to any kid playing it

>>11806074
They'll make another reboot of the same game for the switch 2

>>11806096
What are they switching to?

>>11806091
As far as I can tell
He was 25 in the original game
Retconned to be 18-19 in 64
And then 26 by Adventures

>>11806097
to being tops
Hence Sex: Men.

>>11806102
How old was peppy retconned to in sf64?

>>11806107
I think 41.
Falco and Slippy were made to be both around the same age as Fox too.

>>11806104
Idk, I could see fox as a tranny. Doing a barrel roll is like having a sex change.

>>11806121
Gonna make a 2 hour video essay to justify this

Slippy wearing prayer beads has such fascinating implications about both his character and this universe of funny animal war criminals

>>11806102
And Krystal is 19 when he meets her, btw

>>11806125
Don't forget to call fox a scrimblow and use the proper pronouns, foxen/foxem

>>11806131
they're probably just convenient gacha-style pods with dried cricket snacks in them

>>11806070
Assault was the last decent Star Fox game thoughever

>>11806270
LITREALLY this.

>>11806102
Making Fox a teenager in 64 made no sense. He's supposed to be an experienced mercenary, not some kid fresh out of flight school.

>>11806050
>>11806045
My Aunty kept hares. Damn, they'd just drop dead randomly. Just like in the middle of eating a carrot or someshit.

>>11806131
Are those puppets?

>>11806285
And also Slippy is the younger one and the rookie of the team. Him being the same as Fox and Falco throws that off.

>>11806292
Agreed. Slippy being 18-19 actually makes sense; old enough to serve, but still a kid and a newbie.

>>11806289
Yes. Well technically no, but yes. The aesthetic for Star Fox was inspired by the marionettes from Thunderbirds, like Team America was too.

>>11806025 (OP)
>some have their species name as first name, some as last name
This creates all kinds of issues

>Slippy has his own name on his cappy
Is this what the young people call *rizz* or *aura farming*?

>>11806331
Ah. Was trying to figure out if SGI machines back in the 90's were good enough to render pics like that

>>11806025 (OP)
People grew up fast in the 90s.

>>11806025 (OP)
>MEN
what

>>11806050
>but those animals also don't become pilots with metal legs and talk in real life
do you have a reliable source for this?

>>11806025 (OP)
Japan's perception of age is a bit different from ours.
Anything over 30 is considered ancient, "your life is basically over" tier.

>>11806025 (OP)
>furrys.... in space!
Yeah.. I'll stick to my post apocalyptic flying dragons but thanks anyways.

>>11806082
>time compression

>>11806331
Hence why nintendo commissioned another batch of puppets from the Jim Henson company when zero was coming out

>SEX : MEN
so.. that's what they're into..?

>>11806479
redditoid detected.
everyone says the same thing in America.

>>11806025 (OP)
Fox is 25. not exactly super young. doesn't really make sense to call someone 36 an old man when you're 25.
if Fox was 18 it would make more sense because at 18 you do think 36 is old and its exactly twice 18

>>11806082

>>11806082
Boomers are expected to have the longest lifespan and it decrease post them.
we're not living longer we're living adolescence longer.

>>11806045
He's not even a hare, he's a rabbit.
>>11806286
>My Aunty kept hares
Likely not. She probably kept rabbits. Hares look insane, as though they've seen the true face of God.

>>11806536
Maybe if you're still in high school.

>>11806568
>if you're in your 30s you don't think 30 is old
Lmao denial is such a fun crutch

>>11806025 (OP)
Whenever I see fox I think of these 2 pics

>>11806581
You'll see for yourself in 15 years, don't worry.

>>11806025 (OP)
for Japanese standards Peppy is already with a foot in the grave

star fox is a surreal fuckin franchise man

>>11806087
it's actually the verb. "The Fox foxen the babies"
>>11806581
30 literally isn't old though. You still have to work for more than your lifetime so far at that point.
>>11806628
ah yes, Stellar Vulpes, with his team mates, Toady Slip, Becky O'Hare (not related) and Captain Falco(n)

>play snes star fox recently
>by the Space Armada level it becomes incredibly clear how technically impressive the game was
>third person to first person shifts, smooth transitions from gameplay to cutscenes, actual sense of depth and scale as you come up on large attack carriers

>>11806025 (OP)
Fox's dad died maybe ten years earlier, making Peppy in his 20s and Fox a teen at the time.

>>11806554
>as though they've seen the true face of God.

>>11806045
First of all those average lifespans are from living in the wild, hares are easy prey to many predators. Not even many predators are easy off. Average lifespan of a fox is 3-4 years, but ones in captivity have lived around 13-15 or so, about as long as pet dogs.

Second there are animals that can live far longer than humans, there are turtles out there which are in their 100s, there is one which is estimated to be around 200 years old.

... also, we're talking about anthropomorphic alien space animal-people here, so I doubt any of the lifespans of normal Earth animals apply.

>>11806050
>but those animals also don't become pilots with metal legs and talk in real life
The metal legs thing was retconned in Starfox64 with the G-Diffuser.

>>11806589
If I enter my 30s and I'm not also entering a vagina at least every other day I will kms myself. There's literally no point of getting old if you're also not getting laid.

>>11806641
>30 isn't old
This is an old meme. If the baby was real and was 1 when this video was made it would be 30. This meme is old as fuck. Saying
>I still have 30 years left to slave before my masters give me permission to die
is not an argument for youth.

>>11806075
Foxes are notoriously skittish, especially around humans. The only way I can see one attacking a human, even a baby, is if it was rabid or the human approached it while it was cornered/protecting it's young.

A fox wouldn't just run up to a human baby and attack it.

You're good; but I'm bettah!

Peppy! Long time, no see!

Andross has ordered me to go down on you~

Uncle AAANDROOOOOSSSSSS touched meeeeeeee!

>>11806739
>>11806743
>>11806747
>>11806750
Fuck you, you suck.

I admit defeat...

NO!
HIT THE BRAKES!!

DO YOU COPY!? SEND REINFORCEMENTS!!!

No, wait. Wrong character quote. My bad.

>>11806289
>>11806331
Very much puppets (being photographed).

>>11806761
We used to have things called "game manuals" and they built the lore and explained the game mechanics to us.

>>11806490
So..... how's that franchise doing?

>>11806025 (OP)
Japanese company, prease understand.

>>11806342
>rizz
FWIG, rizz = game.

>aura farming
aura farming is just pretentiousness, or trying to look important.

>>11806753
>I admit defeat...

Rock Crusher pilot says this. Shogun Pilot is the not-Gundam guy.

what went wrong?

>>11806628
I would've liked this but its so Boruto tier, everyone being just kids of the last main characters
But yeah everything after 64 feels almost insane

>>11806682
Y'know how they say you can't see or know god without going nuts? Well, I mean that these Arkham asylum escapee-lookin' motherfuckers have definitely looked upon the face of God and lost all sanity. Horrifying looking fucking things. I once described them as the transgenic hybrid of a fox and a bunny raised by Charles Manson.
Rabbits are cute.
Hares are the stuff of fucking nightmares.

>>11806682
>>11807316
Ghastly creatures.

To be a "veteran" of something you don't have to be necessarily old, just to have a lot of experience.

>>11807319
But he always seemed to be around James Mccloud's age while somehow only being ten years older than Fox

>>11806025 (OP)
I'd have assumed Peppy was older than James, but that would mean James would've been young as fuck when he conceived Fox. Peppy must be far younger than I thought, for him to be the old man in the group by the time Fox is 25.

generally speaking, how old is fox whenever james gets whacked? I've seen people speculate that peppy finished raising fox.

>>11806025 (OP)
he is old for being a mercenary

>>11806530
Wish it looked more like Dark Crystal than the Muppets

>>11806025 (OP)
36 is ancient to be in active combat
unless you are in an utter shit hole like the ukraine that already killed all its fighting age men

I saw Starfox at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday.

>>11807769
you get an autograph?

>>11807769
what was he buying?

>>11806375
Yes, it's called nature. You should check it out sometime

Yes, a boy can become a soldier at 16. A bit older than that for a pilot. 36 is more than double that.

>that's our little PMC, right honey?

>>11806714
way to admit you don't get pussy. men who do never treat it like life and death that way.

>>11807428
In 64, around 15? Peppy is definitely some kind of father or uncle figure.

>>11806769
Primed for another entry if you ask me. If SoR, 2d sonic, and Shinobi can get new releases then why not?

>>11808452
>If SoR, 2d sonic, and Shinobi can get new releases then why not?
Sonic is SEGA's main mascot so of course they will still make Sonic games.

As for SoR and Shinobi, as much as I like PD those two franchises are much more well known and popular. All we got in the last 20 years was a remake of the first game.... with a remake of the second game promised years ago but absolutely no word of it since so it's pretty safe to assume it's dead, the last new entry to the PD series was over 20 years ago.

At this point I would be less surprised if they announced Space Channel 5 Part 3 or a new Space Harrier than if they announced a new Panzer Dragoon game.

>>11807390
Do you wanna know something really depressing? There are some men (even in ancient times) going either "oh wow is me. I'm 30 and I've accomplished nothing! Alexander united north Africa in conquest by the time he was 16 years old!" Or worse. "Alexander conquered Africa when he was a teenager! You're 20 years old and you're still in college! Why are you such a loser?"

Alexander lived in a time where the truths of nature were undeniable. It was literally the law of the strongest. He had to learn how to conquer lest he be conquered. There was no US army team to roll in if some barbarians came to town, you had to sort out your own shit.
Then societies grew bigger and started looking after each other and children stopped learning how to be men and started being stuffed in classrooms for 15 years straight learning absolutely nothing of importance to themselves, only so they can be good wagies. This change was slow and steady but today it is undeniable. Even in the 60s. You look at a 32 year old man and he looks to be in his late 40s (spending time outdoors in the sun helps with aging, of course).
If you look at the angry video game nerd, besides the bald, he doesn't look like he's in his mid 40s which he is.

>>11806739
I like it

>>11806036
Is that gay or does beast shit supercede that?

>>11806714
>killing yourself over pussy
Ngmi, mate.

>>11806762
I miss them. S tier toilet material.

>>11806035
the oldest hare ever recorded was 7

>>11806331
Reminder that they had metal feet originally because they'd chopped off their actual feet and replaced them with cybernetics, this was so they could handle more Gs.
Don't know why they changed them afterwards to have normal boring feet.

>>11808667
Reminder that Vlad The Impaler didn't start making Turkish kebabs until his 30s.
You too can be a late bloomer, you just have to keep trying.

>>11806712
>>11808849
It was never explicitly stated and was always likely just a theory.
I still believe in it just because it's cooler. G-diffusers can only work so much, especially since they're working with something more intense than any aircraft we have. It could make gravity more normal but would just be relative, and still do a number on your blood flow.
But by Adventures they have normal boots on.

>>11806025 (OP)
They never said that's what he was in SNES, he became that when they rebooted the story in 64.

>>11809403
I feel like them all being teenagers makes the premise weirder. Fox being an 18 year old leader of a mercenary team seems odd.

>>11809421
It was the only thing he could do because his dad took off a massive 80 year loan for the Great Fox and then died.

>>11809436
>fox inherited his father's debt
sounds like corneria has a population of rats in addition to dogs

>>11806270
>>11806280
They're bombs with sleeping gas in the comic apparently.

>>11809436
>>11809464
I assume it's because he wanted to keep the Great Fox, which was far from paid off. (Though who the hell approved a 80 year loan for a 43 year old fighter pilot in the first place?).

Is it clarified that he wanted to keep it or that he is only keeping it because he is forced to pay it off?

>>11806331
>still no stop motion animation star fox movie

>>11806490
>>furrys.... in space!
Yeah that's why I like it.

>>11807942
The cycle of war, trauma, and violence continues

>>11807256
I wonder if there's any art he did for Star Fox 2. We have Starwolf concept art, none of Mai or Fey

>>11809752
From what I've heard, Imamura didn't have a lot of involvement with Star Fox 2

>>11806134
So what does that make in in sf64? 11?

>>11806025 (OP)
It makes somewhat more sense in the typical weird JRPG worlds where protagonists are like 15, but it's definitely an odd choice here, since Falco isn't even 10 years younger than Peppy yet is portrayed as a cocky young rebel. Would've been better had Peppy been closer to James's age, or even older. Like make him in his 50s or 60s or something to better hit home the wise mentor thing.

>>11806082
It's true. A 36 year old today has had less life hours to do things than a 36 year old had back in the 90s. Same reason why so many Boomers seem to be relatively active and healthy at ages when Greatest Genners were senile and in old folks homes, despite having been among said "more life hours at 36"ers back in the 80s and 90s.

>>11809853
yeah

>>11806025 (OP)
>sex: men
gay

>>11809479
The more frog-like Slippy’s body is the funnier he is to me.

>>11811000
I like the funny frog man

>>11811372
the star fox comic has a certain unhinged quality that i've always liked

>>11811389
I think it's kino

I still think Star Fox 2 64 could've been possible
Different Arwings with different stats, awings that turn into mechs, Miyu and Fay, it would've been easy money.

>>11811561
Didn't Fox have a girlfriend in that that was neither Krystal (because she didn't exist yet) nor one of the female pilots from the cancelled Star Fox 2?


Btw, Star Fox's intro was mind blowing at the time.
Imagine you're some young 90s lad, used to only seeing barely moving sprites then you stick this cartridge in and see full 3D graphics for the first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyy9tMFCHQc
That tunnel exit along with the adrenalin pumping soundtrack really sealed the deal too

>>11811561
How long is this anyway? I didn't know it had a comic! I'll have to check it out.

>SEX : MEN

>>11811602
>Didn't Fox have a girlfriend in that that was neither Krystal (because she didn't exist yet) nor one of the female pilots from the cancelled Star Fox 2?
Fara Phoenix. Not really a girlfriend but definitely a love interest. She's an experienced pilot too. She also appears in the data or something for Star Fox 2 which is interesting. There's some weird lines where Fox mentions she looks just like his mother, what did he mean by this
>>11811630
About 10 or 11 chapters. As old and "non-canon" as it is, there's some interesting ideas in it and there's a least a few that show up in later games

>>11806025 (OP)
You think a soldier in his mid-late thirties irl can keep up with one in his 20's?

>>11811563
why did they go for a reboot instead of just remaking star fox 2? too difficult?

>>11806039
Play it McLoud.

>>11811782
I mean, it probably made sense to start fresh on a new console.
Keep in mind even to this day Nintendo isn't really one to care too much about making games connected to each other.
sometimes I think starfox only achieved that serialized story escape velocity because it just made the most sense to dinosaur planet into a starfox game to set it as a story that happens sometime after 64.

>>11811827
now which timeline is that ends up connecting the Star Fox universe to F-zero's two timelines?

>>11811650
>>11811561
I always loved the detail of Andross killing Fox's mom with a car bomb specifically.
It's something so mundane in an otherwise fantastical setting. no lasers, no robots, no caught in the middle of a space battle. He simply planted a bomb in James's car.

>>11811827
You're missing a few things. There should be a third branch from Star Fox 1 for the SF Nintendo Power comics, and a branch from Star Fox Zero for Star Fox Guard.

>>11811835
wait. forgot this dude.

>>11808849
that's just fan babble that you read once on Did You Know Gaming or Game Theorists

>>11811840
>It's something so mundane in an otherwise fantastical setting. no lasers, no robots, no caught in the middle of a space battle. He simply planted a bomb in James's car.
It's the most "space opera" thing. Okay not really, but in the way something that would happen over space geopolitics(even though it was Andross over being jealous).
Which I guess that probably isn't what Star Fox is about, but god damn it if they're gonna reboot it so much let's see Andross being some evil space emperor doing space terrorist things. I think I'm the only one who wants to see the succession stuff with Andrew(WITH his goofy voice) and monkey supremacists.

>>11812198
Yes but, counterpoint:
It's kinda cool.

>>11812225
Andrew needs to be kicked around until he has a complete psychotic breakdown until he basically becomes Andross' true successor.
From nepobaby ever his allies hate to emperor nero

UNCLE ANDROOOOOOOOOOOSS

>>11812290
Shame he got immediately merked by space bugs, but that just leaves more room for a power vacuum and different factions trying take whatever they can get. And considering that Krystal is the sole fox survivor of some planet that isn't even part of the Lylat system, there's so much more shit out there.
Literally no excuse to just be reboot after reboot for this series.

>only 2.5 more years until Im older than auron in FFX
>still have no family, career, house to speak of

its unironically, completely, totally fucking OVER.

Assault is actually a decent Star Fox game.
I dislike the new suits they gave everyone. The jumpsuits and silver jackets with scarves were cooler

Do they really count as guerrillas when they got state of the art starfighters given to them from Corneria and just charge right in

>>11806035
Not true, im black and alot of supercentenarians that live past 100 were black

>>11812570
In the comic at least, they were conducting raids on andross's forces on papetoon even before getting arwings.

Star Fox rebooted itself after one game. So ignore that.

>>11812891
one RELEASED game
there were two canceled games between og and 64

>>11812982
Two?

>>11806479
Don't nips all live to their hundreds tho?

>>11813009
Yeah, there was a Virtal Boy game that almost nothing is known about.
It shows up in this video around 0:38.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10SJ3_NnDE&t=38

Snes star fox is harder than 64 for some reasons.

>>11813053
>there's a vb star fox
Of course there is

>>11806039
Chief?

>>11806641
>You still have to work for more than your lifetime so far at that point.
True, but by that point you're considered too old to have fun. You're expected to fade into the background. Nobody will ever think you're cool unless you made it big 10 years ago. Your hair is probably falling out and your back is starting to hurt. Most people expect you to own a house and have a wife and kids. If you're a man without kids at that age you're a creepy uncle. Zoomers even use the word unc to refer to people in their mid 20s.

>>11813405
peppy has a daughter, thought

>>11813405
>Zoomers even use
YAWN
sorry anon I'm just SO sleepy

>>11809403
>>11812891
>Falco was the head of a space biker gang
I think the comic implied this

>>11813408
I think Command is somewhere like 20 years after 64

>>11813405
Very effeminate post, please take your neurotics elsewhere.

>>11813646
What gives you that impression?

>>11813405
>Zoomers even use the word unc to refer to people in their mid 20s.
Have they picked that up from their Korean slop?

>>11813147
Because it was
SNES and SEGA games were still designed by coin-op arcade game principles, they were kept hard to make it hard to complete them quickly because usually they were pretty light on content.
Saveable games were pretty rare on the SNES, less than 200. If you weren't going to complete it one sitting you'd have to leave your console on, then you'd come home from school to find your mum's unplugged it to the use the vacuum.

>>11813718
>If you weren't going to complete it one sitting you'd have to leave your console on, then you'd come home from school to find your mum's unplugged it to the use the vacuum.
64 is the same way tho

>>11813707
Presumably the whole air of everyone being old and ready to retire, but there are timeskips mentioned in each game;
64 -> 8yr -> Adventures -> 3yr -> Assault -> 1yr -> Command
It's only been 12 years

is it the best snesfox level?

I fucking love my star furry gundam wars

>>11814096
fox is more of a luke skywalker nod, isn't he though?

>>11814096
>t. guy who has only seen star wars

>>11806070
The indicator was the Greatfox itself. The ship was literally the lifeline of Starfox and was on loan from James Mccloud before Fox. And of course in the last "good" starfox, Peppy retiring in assault and yeeting the greatfox was literally "the last kino moment". They rightfully gave it to him. Everything after was downhill, they replaced the greatfox with a dogshit dropship in command. It was like watching the series die in real time.
>>11806628
See? All downhill. He fucking peggle arted every ending and then retired from Nintendo to become a comic book artist GOD what a big mistake.
>>11813646
Adventures, Assault and Command take place in like a 4 year timespan.

>>11814174
I just started Zeta a while ago

>>11806025 (OP)
Correct, most join the military young, possibly 17,18 at that point he could have nearly 20 years of experience.
That is an experienced, long time veteran.

>>11813408
Frog pussy would be crazy wet

>>11814242
the great fox wasn't in the snes games though

>>11814359
There was something roughly similar to it in Star Fox 2.

>>11813053
Isn't that just Red Alarm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO8jCls8F24

>>11813718
>SNES and SEGA games were still designed by coin-op arcade game principles, they were kept hard to make it hard to complete them quickly because usually they were pretty light on content.
>Saveable games were pretty rare on the SNES, less than 200. If you weren't going to complete it one sitting you'd have to leave your console on, then you'd come home from school to find your mum's unplugged it to the use the vacuum.

Saving was pretty common by the time SNES rolled around, it was NES where that was rare and they were mostly going by arcade rules, and yet even the NES had a lot of longform games that would not have been at all a fit for arcades. Super Mario World sure as hell was not a hard game, neither was Super Metroid, nothing like many NES games were.

>>11813408
>>11814337

>>11814398
Similar, but no.
Probably why it got scrapped though.

>>11806025 (OP)
>sex : MEN
no wonder krystal left him. poor girl got tired of being his beard.

>>11814359
>the great fox wasn't in the snes games
Which changes nothing about what I said. The ship was literally the lifeline of Starfox.

>>11814174
you don't see it?

>>11806035
Lobsters are essentially immortal.

>>11816043
Not until I eat them. Jellyfish I think are as well.
That kinda fits with more aquatic animals being connected to weird mysterious cosmic entities in space, though Command still has fish people(but Aqaus in 64 implies there must be some ancient underwater civilization on that planet)

>>11816091
treating space as an ocean is pretty common in fiction. like the navy flavoring of star trek

>>11816115
Yeah I know, it's older than L Ron Hubbard deciding to start a cult, though I always felt that Star Fox treated it more as an extension of air-based combat for obvious reason.
Space as an ocean is usually more about tactics and spaceship warfare, though I guess aliens(native to space itself and not a planet) being weird fish beings stems from Lovecraft too.

>space whale in sector y
>black hole
>out of this dimension
snes sure did have a lot of secrets compared to 64

>>11808703
it makes it even gayer

>>11806331
So they made puppets just for cover art and nothing else? Damn. I feel like they had potential. Wonder where the puppets are now.

>>11806628
True that. Its a shame its forgotten by nintendo though. They should bring it back for one more game. Same with punch-out.

>>11812198
>that's just fan babble that you read once on Did You Know Gaming or Game Theorists
this.
both Miyamoto and Dylan Cuthbert went on record to say the reason they have metal legs is because they thought it looked cool, nothing more or less than that.

>>11817120
>Wonder where the puppets are now.
undoubtedly rotted out

>>11817254
hot

When ever I see StarFox brought up nowadays its always people clamoring for a "proper" sequel to SF64. I disagree, story wise we've seen where this leads and it is stupid. I fully agree that gameplay needs to mirror 64 as close as possible but the story ends with the death of Andross. Any attempt to continue leads to some lame knock-off villain (or literally just Andross again as in the case of Adventures) and just takes away from the great victory that was earned from the Venom hard route. My ideal StarFox revival is a prequel. Have it star the original team: James, Peppy, and Pigma. Tell the story of Andross's banishment and Pigma's betrayal. Maybe have the tutorial level be Fox in the academy in a flight sim. This can be accomplished with the same minimalist story telling and fast paced on-rails action as SF64.

>>11806025 (OP)
>100lbs
It's like carrying a child

>>11806025 (OP)
Why does Falco weigh more than that fat piece of shit frog?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n01fWKm0W4

>>11817303
>I disagree, story wise we've seen where this leads and it is stupid
No imagination. Very restricted mind.
>My ideal StarFox revival is a prequel.
That could work though.
Retro wanted to make a Starfox game based on their mercenary work, going around accepting jobs and getting new recruits to play as, etc.

>>11806025 (OP)
Animals reach adulthood at 3 years old
The fact Peppy is 36 is already pushing it.

>>11817747
It's measuring in rabbit years.
That's why he's in his forties by the time 64 came out, and why Fox became younger.

>>11817303
I think there's potential in a SF game that acknowledges the fucked up continuity and makes it a plot point.

>>11818148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Afs2IsFsT0

>>11813331
kek

>>11814083
I love Titania for its gimmick, music, and the boss fight under the bridge with the shadow of the bridge moving in the water waves.
Space Armada is great tho and when I was a kid I thought the part where it does that scripted movement through the tunnel inside the last ship was the coolest thing ever, it was just like Star Wars in my mind.

>>11817741
>No imagination. Very restricted mind.
Read the rest of my post. The stakes were already as high as they can be. The Lylat system was under an existential threat from Andross. Now that he has been defeated you are left with two options:
A. Create some new big bad that will always come off as a cheap knock off of Andross (Aparoid Queen, Anglars or whatever the fuck from Command)
B. Sigh...somehow Andross has returned (Adventures and StarFox 2)
There is a reason that four of the eight Starfox games have told the exact same story with slight variations here and there.
>Retro wanted to make a Starfox game based on their mercenary work, going around accepting jobs and getting new recruits to play as, etc.
That sounds like it would lead to some open world shit. I personally don't want that, but yes the game should should make use of the fact that they are actually mercenaries, perhaps hit points translating to currency which can be used for upgrades like in Ace Combat.

>>11818297
>That sounds like it would lead to some open world shit.
From what I read, no. They seemed to have wanted it to be exclusively around shooting and flying, so I guess you just win over members after fights, I dunno

>>11812448
Neither did Auron. Cheer up buddy. There's still time to murder that exhibitionist stripper who said you could kill the devil.

>>11806025 (OP)
>They all have sex with men
How progressive

>>11806289

>>11811650
Holy shit, this explains a lot. Itoh actually worked on the official Japanese strategy guide for Star Fox 1, and includes both original art and panels from the Nintendo Power comic. So it's less of a surprise that some aspects of the comic intended for an American audience ended up appearing in later games.

>>11809479
Why would you make a necklace of gas bombs?

>>11818804
A mention of the g-diffusion system predating Star Fox 64.

I think the main difference between the 64 canon and the SNES canon include stuff like James being Fox Sr, and disappearing in the black hole instead of being betrayed by Pigma.
In the comic, the >>11816091 space whale is actually an inter-dimensional spaceship with James on board, and only appears like a whale in our dimension

>>11818831
oh yeah, and that also explains why the whale gives you extra stuff, it's James helping his son.
And this rat guy apparently is the only person to enter and survive Out of this Dimension according to Japanese the strategy guide

Also I just think the cover's neat

>>11818831
Another difference is that James seems to have been officially part of Corneria's military, and not just a mercenary like Fox.

>>11813405
This isn't the 1990s anymore. Western society has changed.
>Nobody will ever think you're cool unless you made it big 10 years ago.
>Your hair is probably falling out and your back is starting to hurt.
You should come back in 10-15 years and tell me yourself how this is bullshit.

there's a crazy connection here if you think about it.

>>11809479
>>11818809
Probably a reference to the necklace of fireballs from DnD or some shit

>>11820512
>I want to lunch action soon!
Felling hungry?

>>11820140
I'm assuming it's some classic frog=ninjas connection that Japan does

>>11818838
This guy actually gets briefly mentioned in the Japanese manual for 64, so he's somehow still canon

>>11806628
>2 blue characters
COME ON

>>11806025 (OP)
To be fair, 36 is getting old for a fighter pilot.

G-forces are so intense on the body, reaction times so vital, and the equipment so expensive, that literally only the best of the best of the best qualify to be fighter pilot.

That said Slippy sounds like a literal child but he's 19, so the exaggeration is working in both chronological directions away from Fox: To him, Peppy nearing retirement, while Slippy is (literally) green and has only just begun his career.

I've never read Farewell Beloved Falco

>My favorite toad is "Slippy Toad" if you know what I mean...

Fox! That's one of ours!

Starting without me, boys? I'm crushed...

>>11806025 (OP)
Would Star Fox have been more popular if it had human characters?
The mascot characters add nothing to the franchise. The setting and gameplay have nothing to do with furry creatures. "But mascot creatures were popular." Yeah and the majority of those mascot creature franchises died. Even in their heydays, the most popular games were still games with human characters.
Admitedly some games do work better with mascot creatures. Donkey Kong works well in the original arcade games because he's the King Kong type antagonist to a human character, and in Donkey Kong Country they created the whole setting around the idea of jungle animals which works extremely well. Sonic works because his special abilities would look silly on a human, but the ball and homing dash fit a cartoon animal well.
What do the animal characters add to Star Fox? It's a series about piloting spacecrafts in a futuristic sci-fi world and fighting in space and various planets. The animals add nothing to this - in fact, they're opposed to it. If they had cool human pilots instead, the games would look cooler than with the animals. They can still keep their animal names, it works well for Solid Snake as a kind of codename.

>>11821875
The AI slop makes me hesitant to reply to this genuinely.

>>11821405
>G-forces are so intense on the body, reaction times so vital, and the equipment so expensive, that literally only the best of the best of the best qualify to be fighter pilot.

Wouldn't that only apply in an environment WITH gravity...?

Although dulling reflexes wouldn't factor in with or without gravity.

>>11821943
I'm not an artist and the only example of an humanized Fox McCloud I could find turned him in an anime girl

>>11821875
the animal characters make for family friendly racism

>>11821993
I think the animal characters give it a charm and Miyamoto chose it for a reason. Star Fox was made to be a technical marvel but time catches on, but anime people fighting in space is still appealing to me even after triangles and squares stopped being technologically impressive.
It essentially makes them all aliens, fitting with the sci-fi space opera stuff but also all literally based on the Japanese version of "fighting like cats(monkeys) and dogs", which keeps it fun

>>11821949
>Wouldn't that only apply in an environment WITH gravity...?
No. Gravity has no bearing on g-forces caused by rapid acceleration.

>>11821875
peppy is a little too handsome here, i feel

>>11808849
Google Douglas Bader. A fun little bit ofnknowldge for you on thiansubject

what was his problem? why was he so adverse to nintendo owning the music he composed for the game?

>>11822186
A lot of music guys have been like this, they think they own the rights of everything they made for a company.
Which I do understand how it feels for artists, but it's just not how things work

>>11822186
Signing away the rights to your work to some (even at the time) multimillion dollar company is peak retard behavior.
If they want to use it, they can pay for it.

>>11822226
I feel like you see it the most out of the music guys. Feels like artists usually treat it as a job, but music guys are far more passionate about holding onto what they create.
maybe it's because music is less tangible than a character design? Feels more fleeting.

>>11822259
I said feels a lot here

>>11821875
>Would Star Fox have been more popular if it had human characters?
When is the last time you saw anyone talk about Star Glider? There's your answer, no, it would not have been.

Star Fox was originally just going to be another entry (Or possibly even reboot) into Rare's Star Glider series. Before they had joined Nintendo they had made two similar games called Star Glider 1 and 2, and thanks to the Gigaleak we have builds of Starfox from before they added the animal characters, where it was just called "SG" back then. I believe there was also an interview where they said originally they wanted to design the FX chip for the NES to make Star Glider on it.

Few ever talk about Star Glider without it just being a footnote in Rare/Star Fox's history when talking about Star Fox, and even fewer care about the series. How many other series that started out as FX games survived? None!. Nothing came of Dirt Trax, Stunt Race, World Gold, Vortex. Star Fox is the only one that became more than one game.

It would have just been Star Glider 3/a reboot of Star Glider, and been as forgotten as all the other FX games otherwise.

>The setting and gameplay have nothing to do with furry creatures.
Neither do most mascot franchises

>"But mascot creatures were popular." Yeah and the majority of those mascot creature franchises died.
That was when everyone was trying to copy Sonic with a "Mascot with attitude", no surprise most of these copycats (some literal) failed.

>>11821949
>Wouldn't that only apply in an environment WITH gravity...?
G-Force refers to the forces to acceleration, not gravity. You would still experience those when accelerating and turning even in space. Also, half the levels take place right above a planet's surface as if they were airplanes.

>>11822056
>I think the animal characters give it a charm and Miyamoto chose it for a reason.
After finding out it was originally a Star Glider game, the cynic in me tells me that reason is so they could own the IP.

>>11806131
It's cool that their triangular belt buckles would stab into their crotch when they sat down in the cockpit

>>11822383
>How many other series that started out as FX games survived? None!
Incorrect. Yoshi's Island survived.

>>11822557
You mean "Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island", as in part of the Mario series, as in it definitely did not start out as a FX game.

That's like saying that Doom started out on the FX.

>>11816091
This comic is wild

>>11822584
are you retarded? it's the first entry in the yoshi's island series
you might as well argue that wario land started with 2 because the first had mario somewhere in the title so it doesn't count

>>11822970
Nobody considered it anything other than a Mario game back then, and it was even officially labeled as such. Regardless, trying to act like something with any Mario IP in it is something new comparing to actual new franchises like Star Fox is retarded.

>>11823002
you don't know what you're talking about and it's very obvious

>>11823010
You were not even alive at the time and it's very obvious

>>11823035
>n-no u!
aw, poor baby

>>11823091
I accept your concession

>>11823132
>yoshi's island is FX game
>yoshi's island became its own series
>"yoshi's island isn't part of that series because uh well um"
lol ok kid lmao

>>11823140
>Acting as if Yoshi's Island is it's own thing and not connected to the Mario IP
Peak retardation

>>11823149
???
are you being retarded on purpose?

>>11822962
It doesn't end there, see >>11818831 and>>11818838

>>11822962
Just wait til you hear >>11818831 and>>11818838

>>11823283
Butt Explosion? What?

When you fall asleep after eating Taco Bell and you wake up violently shitting your pants.

>>11823290
In the SNES canon, Fox's dad gets suck into a black hole after Andross tries to kill him with an explosion after failing to do so with a car bomb the first time, killing Fox's mom instead. So Fox assumed his dad died in the explosion.
The draaaaawwn ooouuut woooords is just the comic trying to depict altered reality inside a black hole.

>>11823312
I can't tell if this is making it better or worse

>>11823312
>depict altered reality inside a black hole.
same thing as Star Trek The Motion Picture innit?

>>11822383
>Rare's
>being a footnote in Rare
Argonaut. Rare only did Adventure. Assault was done by Namco. Unfortunately Argonaut's track record is kinda soiled by Command.
I didn't know or assume that Starfox was originally intended as a another Starglider game, I just assumed they focused on gameplay solely and let Nintendo do the art and fluff like characters. They did another game for Nintedo, X on the Gameboy, but it was released only in Japan. It does similar impressive feats to Starfox but on even limited hardware, I don't know if that's technically a Starglider game either. I don't know about the gigaleak stuff so if that's true, it probably did originally get birthed as a Starglider game.
Another game that really influenced Star Fox was the arcade game Starblade by Namco. Just look it up, the 3D is amazing for 1991, and you'll see that the Armada level in Starfox 1 took a lot from it. But that's another game that I only know in a line of things that influenced Star Fox like StarGlider before it. I really do think the funny animals in space make players more attached. It fuels the imagination.

>>11823405
>Argonaut. Rare only did Adventure.
Right, my bad. Got Rare and Argonaut confused with each other. And it was definitely a Star Glider game initially. They had made two Star Glider games before, they said they wanted to create the FX chip to make an NES Star Glider game, we know they didn't initially plan to put animal characters in it, and in the alpha versions from the Gigaleak that are before they added the animal characters the game is referred to as "SG" not "SF" or "StarFox"

>>11821654
>Sex: Men
no clue what you're talking about