What went wrong with this game? - /vr/ (#11810656) [Archived: 726 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:12:30 PM No.11810656
4495759-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-windows-other
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:14:21 PM No.11810657
stops being interesting after the sisters
Replies: >>11811203 >>11811725
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:15:29 PM No.11810659
rushed development to beat hl2's release
Replies: >>11811148 >>11812729 >>11813528 >>11828801
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:44:59 PM No.11810701
>>11810656 (OP)
the waifu bait cover art
it tricked coomers into playing it and posers into watching a playthough but both of them dropped when they found out that blond whore becomes irrelevant after the first chapter
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:02:07 PM No.11810728
>>11810656 (OP)
Why no console port?
Replies: >>11810740 >>11810807 >>11822948
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:06:18 PM No.11810740
>>11810728
i honestly think a lot of pc games from 2003-2005 didn't get console ports because they were too ambitious to run on the OG XBox but didn't look good enough to be standard 360/ps3 fare.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:33:11 PM No.11810807
>>11810728
This game infamously ran like shit on the PCs of its time, with like 3 min loading screens. And consoles were WAY weaker than PC's back in 2004.
Replies: >>11811163
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:04:02 PM No.11810852
Capture
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>>11810656 (OP)
what the other Anon said. rushed to launch on the same day that the game's sitting next to on the catalog
Replies: >>11812803 >>11813797
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:50:44 PM No.11810909
>>11810656 (OP)
still better than oot
Replies: >>11810937
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:04:00 PM No.11810930
>>11810656 (OP)
The bullshit named Source Engine doomed this game.
UE2 would have been perfect.
Btw, fuck every half life fanboy
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:09:21 PM No.11810937
>>11810909
Castlevania 64 mogs it completely
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:16:30 PM No.11810945
You can't just say you like this game, can you, OP?
You have to throw out some bullshit accusation and hope other people connect the dots for engagement, right?
You're a joke.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:47:23 PM No.11811148
>>11810659
Why would they do this?
What the heck?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:54:13 PM No.11811163
>>11810807
No it didn't.
Replies: >>11812024
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:05:18 PM No.11811195
>>11811148
1) Ran out of money
2) Marketing dept wanting really hard to be the first game using HL2's engine.
Replies: >>11812729 >>11813528
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:07:58 PM No.11811203
>>11810657
>getting filtered by andrei kino
lol what a faggot.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:12:14 PM No.11811209
>>11811148
So that they could avoid what actually ended up happening, where few people bought the game because everyone was playing the massively hyped and shilled game with the entire gaming media behind it.
Are you dense?
Replies: >>11812729
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:19:07 PM No.11811223
Bot thread
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:06:25 AM No.11811725
>>11810657
>schizo ill woman
Pretty much.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:06:45 AM No.11812024
>>11811163
It ran a lot worse than HL2 which released at the same time on the same engine. You can check Google if you weren't there.
Replies: >>11812172 >>11812803 >>11813797
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:51:20 AM No.11812172
>>11812024
A lot of games ran worse than Halflife 2.
Vampire ran fine.
Replies: >>11812803 >>11820092
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:28:00 AM No.11812472
>>11810656 (OP)
Released unfinished and so buggy it was literally unplayable.

Otherwise there's nothing wrong with it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:59:43 PM No.11812720
>>11810656 (OP)
All sorts of things went wrong but it was a good game at heart. Its lucky its charismatic enough to be able to convince people to put up with its faults enough so as to see it's best side.
Lotta so-called bad games aren't so lucky.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:03:56 PM No.11812729
>>11810659
>>11811148
>>11811195
>>11811209
You guys are retarded. Valve had a provision which banned any other Source Engine game from releasing before HL2. Troika in fact complained they weren't able to release their buggy piece of shit even earlier.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:13:23 PM No.11812745
>>11812729
Activision handled the release, not Troika - they're just the devs.
Replies: >>11813729
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:53:53 PM No.11812803
>>11812024
>>11812172
>>11810852
Reminder that valve fanboys are /v/tards
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:07:29 PM No.11813447
>>11812729
Activision was the one who wanted to release it earlier, which is why they demanded Troika release it as early as possible after HL2 came out.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:08:34 PM No.11813451
>>11810656 (OP)
It wasn't finished, which is why the game falls off a cliff in the last third
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:09:10 PM No.11813452
>>11813447
>release it as early as possible after HL2 came out.
Bloodlines and HL2 were released on the very same day.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:37:58 PM No.11813528
>>11810659
>>11811195
>>11812472
>>11813451
They were baited into using the Source Engine for a complex single-player game project.
The engine is horrible and incapable of executing many simple routines . The game went through development hell because of this.
It could have been the next Deus Ex, but choosing such crap engine ruined the entire project.
The Source Engine is just for marketing and to attract neckbeard and dumb PC enthusiasts who still worship the shitty Half-Life 2 game to this day.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:34:40 PM No.11813729
>>11812745
>>11813447
That was Troika's revisionism, in interviews in 2003 they said they were waiting for Half-Life 2 to come out so they could release VtMB
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:35:38 PM No.11813732
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>>11813528
Shame they didn't choose Unreal Engine 2
Replies: >>11813783
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:02:07 AM No.11813783
3q613
3q613
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>>11813732
ue2 had everything needed
Replies: >>11813804 >>11814649
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:08:34 AM No.11813797
>>11810852
>>11812024
>>11812729
Reminder that /v/tards are Valve fans
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:10:46 AM No.11813804
>>11813783
>not including canceled Escape from Dagu plot
Canโ€™t believe this games have three campaign?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:20:40 AM No.11813813
>>11812729
It's the opposite. Troika was actively prevented from working on the game by activision
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:31:36 AM No.11813821
Community patch fixes a lot of issues, makes it more than playable.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:11:33 AM No.11814461
>>11813451
It mostly sucks throughout, as long as you aren't in a conversation with someone. Fortunately the game has lots of conversations in it.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:19:12 AM No.11814465
>>11813729
>that was Troika's revisionism
>proceeds to give an example of exactly what was described
Replies: >>11814752
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:37:16 AM No.11814623
>>11813528
It uses the beta version of the Source Engine. Not the same thing, dumbass.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:39:04 AM No.11814624
>entire is people parroting myths

Have we reached the point where /v/ is now more knowledgeable about video game history than /vr/?
Replies: >>11817349
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:57:17 AM No.11814637
>>11810656 (OP)
It barely works, saves, and community patches stopped working for me after some windows 10 updates that changed language detection
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:04:56 PM No.11814649
>>11813783
>posting a screenshot of a game where the characters are all masked in a discussion about which engine would be preferable for a game whose best feature is the facial animations (apart from the writing)
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:33:08 PM No.11814664
>>11810656 (OP)
It was rushed and very buggy on release. Great game nowadays though when none of that matters due to patches.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:55:41 PM No.11814752
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md5: 4aa30dbd004c2b8828109acf914f8b57๐Ÿ”
>>11813813
That was historical revisionism on their part.
>>11814465
Exactly what I described, a 2003 release from Troika, yes.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:14:24 PM No.11814781
>>11814752
>Troika had to release the game asap because of Activision's demands
>No that's historical revisionism, they said they were going to release the game asap in interviews before release
What exactly do you think this proves?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:34:31 PM No.11814803
>>11814781
>over budget and behind schedule
>"asap"
Replies: >>11830917
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:22:13 PM No.11815636
>>11810656 (OP)
budget / time constraint made it a glitchy mess. still, nothing beats it though.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:43:20 PM No.11816904
>>11813528
>the shitty Half-Life 2 game to this day.
Are you a DOOM fan by any chance?
Replies: >>11817109
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:28:42 PM No.11817109
>>11816904
They both are meh but for different reasons
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 6:36:52 PM No.11817115
>>11810656 (OP)
Nothing

>amazing urban gothic atmosphere
>well written memorable characters
>the best voice acting in the history of videogames
>great soundtrack
>combat is serviceable, not great but not awful either
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:42:12 PM No.11817349
>>11812472
It wasn't really unplayable. A bit buggy and prone to crashing. There was one point late in the game that would crash and you needed a console command to get around it but a patch for that was released soon after the game itself. I played the game quite a bit with just the last official patch and still thought it was pretty great.

>>11814624
No, /v/ was doing the same shit for a while with VtMB. Trying to blame Valve for everything, saying they purposely gave Troika a buggy version of the engine, wanted them to fail so HL2 would succeed, etc. But you can find a dev interview where they say Valve did nothing wrong, sent them engine updates and offered assistance, while Activision frozen development at some point so they just couldn't really make use of it. And Troika had their own issues with deadlines and budget.
Replies: >>11817372
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:47:31 PM No.11817372
>>11817349
It was never unplayable. I skipped school to pick it up and played it religiously for quite a while. Beat it many times straight off the disc with no patches and talked about the game frequently on gaming forums with others who were equally blown away by this game.
The "muh unplayable bugs" crowd is always pseuds and secondaries who are angry that other people are having fun with their niche games. PC RPGs have been buggy beyond belief since forever, because they were games with a huge scope and complexity but also small budgets and short development times. VtM Bloodlines ran better on the PC I had at the time than Fallout 1 did on the PC I had at that time.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:08:15 PM No.11817420
>>11817372
Was it on Steam at that point so you may have gotten the 1.2 patch automatically? I don't remember if the physical release was eventually upgraded to the 1.2 patch. But there was that Society of Leopold crash that was pretty consistent in the original release that needed a console command to get around.

But yeah people who likely didn't even play it at the time want to act like the game was completely unplayable and the only thing that saved it were the fan patches. Even though the game was acknowledged as buggy but still getting good reviews and winning awards soon after release lol. IGN even gave VtMB their RPG of the year award. Everything gets a bit exaggerated.

There's a password in the game which is "iluvgabe" obviously referencing Gabe Newell but people want to say Troika hates Valve and Valve screwed them over.
Replies: >>11820114 >>11828720
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:06:07 AM No.11818037
>>11810656 (OP)
Nothing the only 10/10 game
Replies: >>11820454
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:23:36 PM No.11820092
>>11812172
Bet it run on Dreamcast and GameCube
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:35:29 PM No.11820114
>>11817420
Nah, the first Steam game I ever bought was Medieval 2, a few years later.
And I have experienced games that were "literally" unplayable. I didn't play ToEE until a few years after release because the executable didn't launch on my PC.
Replies: >>11828720
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:48:20 AM No.11820413
>>11810656 (OP)
>What went wrong with this game?
The moment you trek down into the barrens and after it is the moment the game goes downhill and where the game shows its rushed development. A lot of levels have a plethera of nonsensical empty rooms in them, missions are relegated to combat, and Chinatown goes away in the blink of an eye opposed to other districts that have a lot of story and side quests in them.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:13:51 AM No.11820454
>>11818037
Arkhamverse Harley Quinn copy her look.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:43:37 AM No.11820724
ughcammy
ughcammy
md5: 9fd4e1a217b89131be5a414fdf179a1e๐Ÿ”
Ugh... Cammy.
Replies: >>11821423 >>11822965 >>11822980
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:33:48 PM No.11821423
malk
malk
md5: 0af3249780d615c46256ac12f2721f87๐Ÿ”
>>11820724
Ugh... Dammy.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:46:36 PM No.11821435
vtmbloodlines
vtmbloodlines
md5: 80e5c41779d1c6841e197d5c97902792๐Ÿ”
>>11810656 (OP)
It's the best bad game ever made
Replies: >>11821556 >>11822453 >>11830043 >>11831024
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:29:59 PM No.11821556
>>11821435
Nosferatu random appears
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:12:48 PM No.11822453
>>11821435
Both of the girls up front look like Heather.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:12:57 AM No.11822853
>>11810656 (OP)
That cover is still as pathetic today as it was back then
Replies: >>11823572
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:39:49 AM No.11822948
>>11810728
deus ex and half life 2 sucks on PS2 / Xbox and so would've VTMB provided you could even port it outside of turning all particle effects off and rendering it at 114p
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:44:27 AM No.11822965
malkavian-dance
malkavian-dance
md5: bbc94dd844bcd1c588490fcefe303ea1๐Ÿ”
>>11820724
made for yuri with female malkavians
Replies: >>11823125
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:48:37 AM No.11822980
Professional Mode Beautiful Woman Bouncing Up And _thumb.jpg
>>11820724
Replies: >>11823125
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:32:40 AM No.11823125
>>11822965
soul
>>11822980
soulless (who shadow figure?)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:46:21 AM No.11823572
>>11822853
I thought my older brother was such a faggot when he brought this home one day.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 2:32:00 PM No.11824319
>>11814752
HL2 is gay
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:02:10 PM No.11824964
Activision
Replies: >>11828831
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:18:32 PM No.11824985
>>11810656 (OP)
It's completely unfinished. It's like they made it chronologically and ran out of time/budget right after that long sewer level. Even the stuff that comes before that feels like "okay good enough for now but we'll come back and finish it when we get the time". That spooky hotel everyone talks about? Very little happens there aside from some cheap jump scares and then you just leave. The level is like 5 minutes long and it's apparently a highlight of the game.
The people that praise are scraping the barrel for compliments because it's easy to see a good game had it been finished, but it's just not.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:22:35 PM No.11825139
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1724186929642
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It's sad that one of the troika guys had a really bad time developing this game and was devastated when he had to release it in a broken state.
After launch, he said he never looked back at the game again. Only years later did he search for a let's play on YouTube. When the game started, he cringed and got depressed seeing how the game looked unfinished.
When it's brought up in an interview with Tim, he gets visibly distressed just remembering the development of VTM.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:29:31 PM No.11825159
Santa Monica is great and the only real good part of the game.Unfortunately it lasts barely an hour.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:48:05 AM No.11826070
smug meadow
smug meadow
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>>11813528
>it could have been the next deus ex
are you out of your motherfucking mind
Replies: >>11826680 >>11830050
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:39:45 PM No.11826680
>>11826070
Did you play Human Revolution? It's basically VTMB
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:41:52 PM No.11828720
>>11817420
>>11820114
>steam
Not retro.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:24:11 PM No.11828801
>>11810659
I don't understand why people blame Activision for VTMB1 being an overscoped, buggy mess when all of Troika's games were overscoped, buggy messes. The only reason the game even shipped was that Activision cracked the whip.
Replies: >>11828848
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:43:26 PM No.11828831
>>11824964
>Prototype 3 cancelled
Unforgivableโ€ฆ
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:58:18 PM No.11828848
>>11828801
ToEE didn't have those problems.
The only other game they made was Arcanum, which had issues but it was nowhere near as broken as VtMB was at release.
Replies: >>11828851
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:01:07 PM No.11828851
>>11828848
>ToEE didn't have those problems.
You're joking?
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:16:44 PM No.11828897
>>11810656 (OP)
very little? it had awesome memorable characters, excellent writing and voice acting, fantastic setting and level design, intriguing story, abundant role-playing opportunities, and terrible clunky mindless combat. luckily the combat is infrequent and you're often rewarded for bypassing it with dialogue or stealth which is more fun and fits the game's theme better anyway. it's possibly the most replayable rpgs ever made in spite of its rocky development, relatively short playtime, and bad combat. i would argue even that the short playtime adds to the replayability. its a great example of flawed software and good game design being better than flawless software and mundane slop design. any time some nt journo-pet starts pissing all over themselves over a buggy release or lack of technical features i point to this game.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:13:55 AM No.11830043
>>11821435
What the fuck is this picture?
Replies: >>11830943
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:16:42 AM No.11830050
>>11826070
Fuck...You!!!!
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:37:51 AM No.11830380
>>11810656 (OP)
>have Jeanette as cover image
>but she wasnโ€™t main playable
Oh downside here
Replies: >>11830406 >>11830841
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 5:00:49 AM No.11830406
>>11830380
If she was the player character you wouldn't even see her 90% of the time
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:13:12 AM No.11830841
adam seriously hopes you guys don't do this
adam seriously hopes you guys don't do this
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>>11830380
>playing as a w*man
Replies: >>11830947 >>11831228
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:08:54 AM No.11830908
>>11810656 (OP)
It blew its load too early with that haunted house with the axe murderer in it.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:19:19 AM No.11830917
>>11814803
thanks for letting everyone know you don't know what asap means
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:46:28 AM No.11830943
>>11830043
White people culture, you wouldn't understand
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:48:01 AM No.11830947
gayo
gayo
md5: 5b4e1f4dfc4be57fa227e314ed44c6b3๐Ÿ”
>>11830841
>wanting to stare at a man's ass all game
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:53:58 AM No.11830952
I want to remind all people that say the game was rushed or unfinished because of "reasons" that Troika NEVER produced a finished game. They pioneered the release of unfinished unplayable games as a business model. Whats more, they never even considered to fix Bloodlines and quickly put the money from it to the production of a asset flip based on Werewolf. And while Bloodlines is a interesting game never forget that it was shipped with bugs that prevented anyone from finishing it.
Replies: >>11830956
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:57:02 AM No.11830956
>>11830952
Being unfinished and missed potential is a staple of the WRPG genre, along with every female love interest not shutting up about all the guys she got fucked by before she met your character
Replies: >>11830959
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:58:57 AM No.11830959
>>11830956
Fallout 1/2 Baldur's Gate 1/2 all released in playable and finished states. They are remembered as the greats of the genre. Bloodline devs worked on them and there was no problem. The problem was Troika and it's business model.
Replies: >>11830960 >>11831052
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:00:07 PM No.11830960
1679931016266
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>>11830959
>Fallout 1/2 Baldur's Gate 1/2 all released in playable and finished states.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:05:43 PM No.11831024
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>>11821435
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:21:39 PM No.11831052
>>11830959
one half fallout one half baldur's gate? woa sounds zased
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 3:28:47 PM No.11831228
awooga
awooga
md5: 901401ec556857dd5e6ac6ac773a478e๐Ÿ”
>>11830841
Why not playing as futa vampire?