Thread 11813539

The ULTIMATE debate

>>11813539 (OP)
CD for sure

>>11813539 (OP)
Sonic CD has the best soundtrack and its shocking how good the soundtrack is for that game.

Sonic 2 is the overall best sonic game. You would think its Sonic and Knuckles combined with Sonic 3 but actually when you play Sonic 3 (or S&K for that matter) theres too many moments where things just slow down into a slow ass platformer rather than the fun speedy sections that litter Sonic 2. Also they made S&K unnecessarily difficult.

1's Palmtrees are iconic and the best looking. Simplicity at its best.

oh is this a thread about music? then CD (JP) > 1 > 3 > 2

Stage quality? 1 > 3 > 2 = CD

>stage 1 trees
1 is the best
>overall
2 is the best
>best music
probably still 2

Sonic 1 trees are probably the best. CD's probably do the best job of capturing that overall "90s Sega feel"

Chaotix mogs them all

>>11813539 (OP)
I like all of them. Palm trees are the best.

>>11813559
This is 100% true

>>11813539 (OP)
1 and 4. 2 is half assed and 3 is too much visual clutter. That was CDs major problem.

>>11813539 (OP)
Sonic 1 palms look best. They are simply but have a cool 3d effect with the leaves.

Best
>trees
1
>overall game
1
>special stages
CD
>music
CD
>2p mode
2
>end boss
2
>hacks
2
>power ups
3
>replay value
3 (if you have the other games, otherwise, CD)
Search your soul. You know this to be true.

>>11813571
It's bizarre how bad the Murican soundtrack is for that game. They didn't even bother changing the Past tracks, I believe it was. It's just a mess.

>>11814216
Replacing the past tracks would've been too much effort, since they used the Genesis' sound capabilities instead of the CD-audio capabilities by design.

I prefer the JP soundtrack, but I'm not against the US soundtrack.

>>11814225
Why even change the soundtrack in the first place? They just made it worse for no reason.

>>11813852
Its 2025 and theres still no rom hack that gives chaotix level design

>>11814287
3 is by far the ugliest. the first zone of that game is so contradictory to the geometric aesthetic of sonic in general. maybe cause its called angel island and not angel hill zone? mushroom hill is much more closer to what i have in mind.

>>11814287
i want to like chaotix but yeah the levels felt very... airy and pointless

>>11814256
Needed to be more grimdark for those American edgelords

>>11814287
it's unsalvageable bro

>>11813539 (OP)
Sonic 2 on SEGA Master System.

>>11815017
Nice palm tree retard.
The answer is Sonic Chaos (which is also secretly the peak of the series)

>>11815025
Here you go then, not a palm tree, but still a nice tree. Sonic Chaos was great too, so good choice, anon.

As a tendie, polygonal style is iconic

>>11814256
>Why even change the soundtrack in the first place? They just made it worse for no reason.
The JP soundtrack had a lot of unauthorized samples in it, and Sega of America didn't want to go through the legal trouble of clearing them all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnx7EBUHv_s

>>11815271
>tendie
Falseflag or genuine /v/ console warrior?

>>11814287
>>11814290
>>11814426
you're playing it wrong

>>11813539 (OP)
Sonic 2's palm trees look great with composite video

Sonic 2 is the best game and has the best art design and the best song in the series (Aquatic Ruin's 35 second arrangement of Chick Corea's Spain)
Sonic CD has the best soundtrack overall.
Sonic 1 has the best title theme and first level theme in video game history. Also the best palmtrees.

3&K is just overrated because late Genesis games looked super cool and it bumped the review scores up a few points. The music, even the supposedly MJ music, isn't as good as the first 2 games or CD. Half the levels suck. Knux is better than Sonic 3 though.

I feel like a weird amount of Sonic autists rate 3&K poorly as a form of contrarianism or just not engaging with the game properly.
3&K isn't just a series of individual levels held together by a story blurb in the manual, they aimed to make it one cohesive adventure with proper ups and downs throughout.
You were never meant to play these levels individually in order to master them in an arcada-like set up, by this point Sonic's already evolving into a game where each stage is a piece of a larger whole rather than something to be experienced in a vacuum and so the levels are paced accordingly - hell if you look at where the series went after this it might still be the furthest they've ever pushed this concept.
It's a game that feels way more fun and fulfilling to play front to back than Sonic 2, with its slap dash selection of levels and wonky back half, ever could.

>>11813559
>Sonic CD has the best soundtrack and its shocking how good the soundtrack is for that game.
You should genuinely kill yourself. It's a good soundtrack but not for a 16-bit sonic.

>>11816750
I think you're looking to deep into it, the Sonic fanbase is vast and there are dozens of different prefences regarding what Sonic "should" be. We have people who prefer 2D, others who prefer 3D, among the 3D fans we have the Adventure fans and the Boost fans, etc. In 2D, there are the ones who only like the Genesis titles, others who rate the GBA ones well, the DS ones, even fans of the 8-Bit titles, some who even prefer them to all of the others. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the most ambitious and most beloved online by far, has been for many years now, but not everyone likes it that much and it's not just for the sake of just being a contrarian.

I personally find the levels too big, and that they overstay their welcome compared to Sonic 2's.

>>11817287
Your parents are divorced.

>>11817292
My parents have been happily married for 34 years actually, and still going strong.

>>11813539 (OP)
If we're just judging the trees, it's 1, and the reason why is rather obvious: The rest are all knockoffs trying to avoid looking cheap through asset re-use while also having to disguise the lack of a fresh idea.

>>11814426
Technically it has all the assets and the factors to be able to make something interesting, the devs just were lazy cunts about actually making levels and didn't know how to do anything but make you abuse the ring tether for "puzzle platforming".

>>11813539 (OP)
The real question is:
Are Sonic 2 tree "leaves" supposed to be blended with composite?

>>11817484
i'd assume so, considering the existence of so many other dithered assets, especially the horizontal pipe segments with vertical stripes, and the vertical pipe segments with vertical stripes, and the diagonal pipe segments with vertical stripes.

Very few consumer sets had even S-video, Genesis didn't ship with anything but composite or RF (which carried composite), and almost no one even thought to upgrade the cables on anything prior to sixth (6rd) gen

>>11817301
It’s really weird for siblings to be married to each other.

>>11817292
>>11817502
not the same poster btw

>>11817502
Not in your family apparently

>>11813539 (OP)

2 is beyond shit. 3 is retarded. 1 is the best and 4 is ok.