Thread 11814828

Did kids like this?

I remember playing it at the time and just got frustrated by the controls and the gameplay. Maybe I was just a dumb kid, now I can look at it and appreciate what it's doing but it seems a bit too heady for kids.

Probably because it's not for "kids", I liked it as a 7-year old though, very frightening and mysterious to play.

>>11814828 (OP)
I first heard about it on an episode of Icons on G4 and it talked about Oddworld like it was some beloved series, but I think it's pretty obscure

>>11814843
It's not unknown but it was a bit of a cult thing to be into, the online community during the 00s was quite tight knit. I don't know how widely-played the Xbox games were. The New 'n' Tasty "remaster" seemed to do more harm than good and I don't think the momentum is there anymore. I don't think you really need more than the first two games anywhere, they're pretty rich and imaginative.

>>11814828 (OP)
You know the stats nowadays, were half of all players don't complete the first few achievements of video games? Modern video games are easy.
I am fully convinced that every kid out there was cheating their asses off on games before... 2006 or so. Either noodling round the first few levels forever or seeing everything in an hour thanks to god mode. Like people who just read adventure game books to see the nifty traps.
The people here doing 1CCs and so on are not a statistically significant proportion of gamers and never were.

>>11814828 (OP)
I played that on a demo disc when I was probably 10, and specifically asked to have the full game for my birthday. The humor and atmosphere absolutely appealed to a kid back then. It felt really mysterious too because it took me a few years to actually beat this, possibly after Exoddus, which was even scarier but also easier thanks to quiksave.

It's not "heady"; it's an alien who farts and giggles and blows up enemies with his mind. As a kid I loved that shit, and I spent a lot of time drawing pictures of the enemies from the manual, which was excellently made as well. Oddysee and Exoddus were my favorite games on PS1 until much later that I started to appreciate other games with more dialogue, like MGS and Final Fantasy 7 and 8.

God what a disappointment this series has been past Exoddus.

>>11814868
I was shocked to discover how common it is for people to go "OH MY GOD I LOVE THAT GAME I'M SUCH A HUGE FAN" and then you find out they got like 50% of the way through the game and never went back to it. Like ok you're allowed to like a thing you only saw half of but to fanboy out like that is a bit odd to me.

>>11814932
If I may: time spent, enjoyment/focus, and game completion aren't correlated.
I used to be a huge Tomb Raider head, bought the comics, spent ages dreaming up levels, etc. I SUCKED at the games. Worse, I used to get real life frightened enough to have to stop playing. Until I was in my twenties, I think I legitmately progressed through... three iterations of Lara's Home and about six levels total.
The thing is: the real impact, the fantasising and the interest in other topics the game spurred really did have a profound effect on young me. What being a "real fan" is doesn't have to relate to skill or ability at all.

>>11814828 (OP)
I recall looking at the box of Abe's oddysee in a PC store, but I chose Duke 3d plutonium/atomic edition instead. Abe's Oddysee looked interested but it didn't beat out duke for 9 year old me.

>>11814932
Enthusiasm went further back before everyone wanted an acute measurement of everything fictional online and fanwiki fags demanded everything miscellaneous had a name.

>>11814937
To me, that just makes you sound like a bandwagoner. It's insincere to soiface about a thing when you're not even knee deep in it. It's not about qualifying as a "real fan" so much as it's weird how emotionally invested people get in things they don't even really have much interest in.

>>11815004
I was very interested at the time! Seriously, I had notebooks full of TR shit in 1998. I was about 10, to be fair.
Fundamentally, I spent a lot of time and mental energy on it, even if it would take about fifteen more years before my other abilities caught up to the point I could handle the gameplay.

>>11815004
>soiface
No one in the real world did that.

>>11814828 (OP)
Depends on what you mean by kid. 12 yo kid me loved it. Perhaps you just needed an N64.
>>11814843
>but I think it's pretty obscure
First game sold 3,5 million on the PSX. It was a massive success. The problem is that the series were grossly mismanaged and fell out of relevance over time.

>>11815004
That is a very obnoxious thing to say and it makes you sound like a huge neckbeard. The other poster had legitimate passion for the series and it left a huge impact on him, he just sucked at it. What more do you want?

>>11815409
>The other poster had legitimate passion for the series
But he didn't though. He liked the superficial elements and didn't actually like the games. So to say "I like Tomb Raider" would be a huge exaggeration.

>>11815439
There's no joy in your soul.

>>11814937
This is honestly an underrated post because this is what the experience was like playing games you weren't very good at as a kid, you might not have gotten far but you could avidly enjoy what you were experiencing. For someone to be able to say what they liked about something only for someone to go "uh no you don't" is a new level of contrarian.

>>11814828 (OP)
Loved it as a kid.
Played it at my uncle's when I was 7, and traded him Gran Turismo for it.
Became my favourite game for over a decade. And still Top 3.

>>11814828 (OP)
Should I feel bad that I never beaten it, yet somehow a blind guy managed to speedrun it?

HELLO.

>>11815439
Read:
>>11815449

If you carry yourself through life with this current attitude I think it will be incredibly detrimental to your likeability and social prospects.

>>11816597
>Read:
I did, and I rolled my eyes because it wasn't a post worthy of a response.

I played plenty of games for a few hours as a kid, never got to finish them, loved them BUT I did go back to them and finish them when I got the chance. Because I'm here for the video games, and not the cultural social bullshit you all seem obsessed with. If you actually like video games, you play them, you don't dip your toes in and coast off superficial experiences. "Fake fan" "Real fan" whatever the fuck, I don't care. I care about people who actually play games and enjoy them enough to beat them not just halfheartedly participate for the sake of "fitting in".

>>11816618
There was no social cultural bullshit we were getting obsessed with as kids, you brought that into the thread and darkened everyone's doorstep.

>>11816618
Oh you rolled your eyes? Damn, did you stomp your feet and make an anime facial expression too? Your autistic screeds sure owned that guy for DARING to enjoy Tomb Raider as a popular media franchise in its heyday despite finding them too difficult to complete. You sure showed him!

>>11814828 (OP)
I was into it. It felt like more offbeat 90's humor, which I was into.

And despite being action titles, the Earthworm Jim games were getting me to be more accepting of strange concepts, so I wasn't necessarily looking for Oddworld to play like Contra or something.

>>11814828 (OP)
>Did kids like this?
yes
>but it seems a bit too heady for kids.
only if you're the kind of kid that rides on the special bus with the special kids.

>>11814868
>I am fully convinced that every kid out there was cheating their asses off on games before... 2006
If you don't KNOW what went on before 2006, then you're not old enough to be here.

>>11815443
>breh where's your freaking WHIMSY?
>so miserable UGH just let people enjoy things omg

>>11814828 (OP)
I was 10 and I liked it.

Of course, I'd already played Flashback and Prince of Persia when I was even younger, so I was totally set up for Oddworld.

>>11814836
Right it was for teens and college age people. Stoner game you played with your buddies after your shift in your part time job

>>11814828 (OP)
I was born in 97, the same year it came out
I was young enough to remember it, because my older brother would go to the gamespeak menu and make out like Abe was talking to me and then hiss at me and stuff to freak me out. it scared the shit outta me
we must've got it on a demo disc a few years after it came out, since I remember seeing Tomba a lot as well and that was on demo discs later on
back then I had no idea what it really was besides the weird scary game, but years later I'd go on to play it and it turned out to be my favorite game of all time and still is
the atmosphere, music, worldbuilding, creature designs, animations, CGI are all top shelf and the game is a lot of fun. whenever I need a game to use as a yardstick for quality I go to Oddysee

>>11816857
I'm not sure when cheat codes stopped being a thing, is all.

>>11814828 (OP)
>Maybe I was just a dumb kid

I certainly was. But I only played the demo.

>>11815439
He was 10!

>>11817093
were you unable to recognize posers when you were ten?

>>11817000
PS2/Gamecube/Xbox was the last time cheat codes were huge, by PS4/Xbone/Wii U they were extinct. It's almost a 1:1 correlation with the rise of DLC and microtransactions.

>>11814828 (OP)
>Did kids like this?
I didn't. it is more a puzzles game than a platform. And it is harder than metroid. I didn't had time for this shit, so I never finished it. I bought it on platinum because of the graphics, but they are kind of misleading because they are all pre-renders.

>>11817108
I think you mean achievements

>>11817471
I guess you were retarded.

>>11814828 (OP)
I thought it was one of the best video games I had when I was a kid. It stuck with me because it very obviously had an underlying message, and it was effectively conveyed through the plot and the unique atmosphere. Once you experience something a bit "headier" than what you were used to, your old games look shallow, simplistic, or juvenile by comparison.
>frustrated
I found it refreshing that if you fail a challenge, you restart from just prior to it. It's a lot better than a game with 10+ minute levels that are trivial until the end portion, and a mistake means going back to the start. The iteration/improvement cycle in Oddworld is very fast.
>>11816618
You are totally wrong on this topic. I'm sure if you take some time to reflect on the exchanges on this thread, over the next few days, you'll realize the block in your thinking. You seem intelligent enough to make that change.

>>11814828 (OP)
I watched someone play it as an older kid. It looked cool and alien but also sort of sickening, like Earthworm Jim or Heart of Darkness or something. Same for the sound effects, I can still hear the farts and LOOMOOMOOM. I think it was like a puzzle game but the puzzles seemed hard as fuck since it had abstract alien logic and rules that I didn't learn since I wasn't playing or paying much attention, and the olderer dude playing it seemed to be having a hard time even though he made decent progress.
Basically it was a cool game to have on while we hung out, but at no point did I have any desire to play it myself. Even then I wasn't sure what they were going for with a complicated sinister-looking game with fart sounds and gross characters, just knowing about it felt kind of occult.

I really love the ambient track that plays over the main menu and during the credits. This and Exoddus might have been the games that kickstarted my interest in ambient soundtracks and soundscapes.

>>11818717
>you're wrong but i won't say why
>n-not because i can't though, just figure it out yourself!
he's not wrong

>>11814828 (OP)
No game had a bigger impact on me as a kid than this. It was scary too, but I was a pussy. The loud squark sound when the PAL anti-piracy screen appears on startup used to frighten me, and I'd try and mentally prepare for it but it always got me.
I was too young to play it properly and never got back to Rupture Farms II, but I never gave up on it and eventually finished it. Completed it 100% much later

>>11814828 (OP)
10 year old me sure did and still does, puzzle game, story, and everything else.

>>11819028
Did the NTSC version have an equivalent to that? I remember it being so cool that they made the copyright screen seem alive. The whole logo run of publishers and developers was actually frightening too.

>>11818975
He is, and it's obvious. So obvious that he can figure it out quickly if he uses his brain. It isn't some sneaky twist of logic, nor does it rely on some obscure fact.
Telling people why they're wrong often doesn't make them change their mind, whereas letting them realize their mistake for themselves can be a lasting experience.

>>11819195
Have you ever considered that you might be wrong? Who made you arbiter of right and wrong?

>>11814828 (OP)
no. i remember being weirded out by this game with ugly dark graphics and ugly main character.

never played it as a kid.

>>11819195
Ok.
Well I'm going to continue siding with his argument, as he actually bothered to make one.

Yes kids loved it, the either:
A) Liked the game as intended
or
B) Liked farting over and over and getting all the mudokons killed

>>11814876
Stranger's wrath is a solid game but is essentially an entirely different franchise and genre in all but name. I can see how someone that loved the first two games might have no interest in it.

>>11814854
New n' tasty was ok (even if it was two steps forward, one step back). Soulstorm is what killed any oddworld comeback.

>>11819089
>Did the NTSC version have an equivalent to that?
Don't think so, just PAL regions
>The whole logo run of publishers and developers was actually frightening too
Jesus the sound effect over GT Interactive logo scared me so much, I used to dread hearing it, but I couldn't stop

>>11819621
these, but both are possible.

>>11814828 (OP)
It was a weird and goofy game with clunky and frustrating controls. It was kinda cool but also really difficult.

>>11814828 (OP)
I like the unique aesthetics of this series. In an era where every platformer was trying to be colorful and cutesy they went with alien and industrial. The problem is, all of these games besides Stranger’s Wrath seem mechanically frustrating to play.

>>11821971
Just learn the controls, they're not hard.

>>11814828 (OP)
I liked it as a kid (like 10 years old). But I never finished it or even got far. Farting on people was funny.

>>11814828 (OP)
I first played at age 4 and fell in love with it and Exoddus.
Never cared for the later games.

>>11821971
Actually, I dropped Stranger's Wrath because the gameplay is very wonky. The first two games are highly polished though, and I can only imagine them being frustrating for someone who is just flat out bad at in general.