What is the most divisive game you know? I mean the kind of game where half the players love it, and the other half hates it.
To me, probably Mario Sunshine and Zelda Wind Waker.

Zelda Wind Waker was only divisive in 2003. If you don’t recognize its genius now in 2025, you’re just fucking wrong.

Now FF8 remains devisive and I can understand why. I like it, but damn it’s a tough pill to swallow

The nice thing about FF8's divisiveness, is that it's a clear divide being smart people and dumb people.

>>11822220
It's a divide between my bruthas and the other people. Everyone else just sees the weirdness. But your people? They see the poetry.

>>11822207 (OP)
probably Silent Hill 4, human beings like it and subhumans hate it
>>11822217
fuck off, Wind Wanker is still regarded as the worst barebones sloppy zelda game

>>11822207 (OP)
Majora's Mask

>>11822207 (OP)
>Mario Sunshine and Zelda Wind Waker
These arent divisive for the people that played them. They only seem decisive because they are targets of people that hate the brand.

>>11822257
We're not in 2000

Now 99% of people love this game

>>11822264
Nope. I still don't like it, especially now that I have played all of them.

>>11822262
I like these games but their have big problem and feel very rushed/unpolished(because they are)

The objectively superior sequel despised by nostalfag

>>11822217
What genius? If anything it's more crap now that there's actual survival games where you can build boats and travel across islands. Now Wind Waker just looks like a crap version of that

>>11822268
>tfw no 2000s Toonami Mario cartoon
You ever been nostalgic for a place you've never been to

Shenmue
Sonic Adventure

>>11822217
>sail in one direction across empty sea for three minutes straight
>do this 80 times per game clear
>multiply that by 5 or 6 for completionist runs
truly a work of pure genius

>>11822264
fuck majorass. only 4 dungeons, tedious side questing, the whole back half of the game is just not fun, anticlimactic final boss
the only cool thing about majorass is the core concept. groundhog day: link edition. they could have done something so cool with that

>>11822298
Shenmue is the right answer. It's either the best /vr/ story game ever or it's just Yakuza with all the fun sucked out.

I gave FFVIII a fair chance about four years ago, but I couldn’t stand the level scaling, what’s the point of playing the game if I should avoid fights?

>>11822335
>avoid fights?
..why? I played 8 like a neurotypical person and had no trouble.

Most art games, pathologic being the most glaring example:
People most often don't have the "look". Then they get shafted because they're boring or a slog or just too clunky, but sometimes all it takes is a little patience to understand the themes that are just a bit farther than you can reach, to just wait a bit and look at the good sides and not at the glaring downsides and you can really see the message and how the themes of the game work wonders if you can, really, really get it.

>>11822220
Lol this, to this day I can't understand how people don't get the junction system. I simply can't. I didn't even go to college and I instantly understood it.

>>11822207 (OP)
Because most people were newfags to final fantasy and were mad it wasn't Final Fantasy 7-2. They didn't understand each game was completely different

>>11822504
Especially if you played 6 or 7. 8 is basically 6's magicite and accessories rolled into one.

>>11822220
Imagine unironically arguing "You need a high IQ to enjoy this mass consumer product" in 2025. You're not special, unique, and especially not intelligent for being a contrarian about a universally divisive or even bad game acting like it's some misunderstood masterpiece that only the intelligent can understand. You're just being an idiot and/or a troll.

level scaling always sucks
anyone who disagrees shouldn't be allowed access to a computer

>>11822562
No, he's exactly right. I've never seen a smart person who liked FF8

>>11822361
Levelscaling is always overblown by the people who never bothered to play the game to begin with.

>>11822581
And by autistic grinders

>>11822207 (OP)
Kingdom Hearts you either appreciate the gameplay and story or die of disney anime cringe and hate it.

>>11822207 (OP)
Twilight Princess
All zoomers unanimously love Wind Waker

>>11823012
Twilight Princess was the best-selling single title in the series until it was surpassed by The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild in April 2018

>>11822262
I mean, it could be that they wildly changed the gameplay and presentation of their series to make them considerably more child-like in a time when most games were moving away from that, but sure. I'm sure no sunshine or WW haters play any other Zelda or Mario games, and it has nothing to do with gamecube games trying their hardest to visually appeal to toddlers

>>11823036
It was also supposed to be a Gamecube game, got pushed back for years to put it on the Wii and add shitty motion controls, and mirrored the entire game because they were too fucking stupid to remember that Link is left handed while most people are right handed. The Gamecube version was the better version for its controls alone, but it had a big fly in the ointment regarding almost everything about its release. Okami even came out around the same time and made the wolf portions feel like shit by comparison. Still a great game and sold very well, but it definitely was not universally liked.

>>11823012
TP is the ugliest game in the franchise and would be as reviled as Skyward Sword if it weren’t for goddamned Imp Tatl.

>>11823186
>The Gamecube version was the better version for its controls alone
No no no that's backwards. Have you played it on Wii? GC even has less item buttons.

>>11822335
It's much more fun if you actually fight (and rarely card) most enemies. I've beaten it at lvl 8-14, but you have to skip most of what makes the game enjoyable.

>>11822574

>>11822207 (OP)
Ikaruga, Cavedrones hate it because it BTFOed Dodonpachi in sales, and it's actually different and doesn't play like a regular shmup.

>>11823197
Yep but it doesn't have motion controls making it the objectively better version. There were still problems with the gamecube version but i didn't feel like flailing around like a literal limpwristed faggot every time I wanted to swing my sword. It was ass in SS as well but at least it didn't feel like they took an analog function of a button and haphazardly threw it on a gyro sensor. The swordplay in TP was hyped as why we had to wait for years to play it, and it was the biggest wet fart of the game.

>>11823210
*snipes you with lightgun aiming*

>>11822207 (OP)
Chrono Cross

>>11822581
>>11822604
The only person I know who called VIII hard was the guy who grinded to Lv100 before visiting the Fire Cavern.

>>11823310
Frankly, Square should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to reduce grinding.

It's gotta be either Chrono Cross or Yoshi's Island. You either love these games or seethe about them endlessly.

>>11823310
Doesn't 8 have a weird leveling system where you only ever need like a thousand xp regardless of level? I feel like getting to max level at the starting zone in 8 would be so much easier and quicker than any other game.

Croc and Croc 2.

People like to say Chrono Cross but I've only seen it being "divisive" on here on 4chan. It's always the same people too, evident from their style of posting and the points the like to use.
I love both games, I really do. But it's sad I can only discuss one but not the other. Actually, crossfags are also starting to act up too, ruining trigger threads whenever they can.

>>11822335
>what’s the point of playing the game if I should avoid fights?

That's your problem for believing in memes. As long as you're not retarded, when level-ing up the gains outweighs the con. When you lvl up, drawing itself becomes easier, enemies have better spells to draw, they drop better items (which can be turned into spells), and there are innate stat boosts. It is much easier to gain APs and spells when you play the game normally, otherwise you really have to go out of your way to get anything.
This is coming from someone who did a no lvl-up run way back when, only using personal knowledge, before it was cool to do so and before there was a single guide on the subject. Yes you can break the game by not leveling up if you know what you're doing, but anyone that recommends others not to lvl up for their first playthrough is a gigantic idiot who I can promess you, did NOT play it like that on their first play.

>>11823908
Yeah, grinding for levels only screws you over if you overdo it AND have shit junctions. Abusing various mod abilities to get top tier spells in the first half of the game will override any issues caused by over levelling. Plus if it doubt, Meltdown+Aura+Renzokuken/Duel carries.

>>11822207 (OP)
feel like that applies to a lot of mascot platformers
like i don't really care for mario at all, but I like sonic
didn't grow up with sonic either, grew up with mario a little.
love dkc though

SMB2-USA

>>11822335
Kek