What a great game

Just beat it despite a few troublesome glitches on Popstarter.
Fantastic melodrama I love the all the twists and personal turmoil that the characters go through. The narrative rings surprisingly familiar politically in 2025, especially with one of the main bads resembling donald trump and being the tool of an accelerationist madman who wants to destroy the country out of anger

Unique animations and sound effects were icing on the cake, some really funny battle cries and emotes. Completely unique art style too

Anybody played the Hard difficulty and how did it go?

>>11833919
>saturn exclusive
Damn, I did find the game a bit on the easy side especially if you exploit the exp bonus from using items/spells on high level characters

Btw anyone else hate the Monk class? Sorcerers and Bishops are just too strong to pass up and the Monk spells are mostly pointless and expensive MP-wise.
Swordsmen are a bit weak compared to Guardsmen but its nice to have a a medium power highly mobile character especially when Guardsmen class up to Dragoons and lose movement range

i dont like counter attacks in games like this

>>11833938
>Damn, I did find the game a bit on the easy side especially if you exploit the exp bonus from using items/spells on high level characters

Reason I'm asking is because I've only found one person talking about it online and since it's plebbit I'd rather get a second opinion. The person claims the hard mode is impossible without insane grinding (and note that the Saturn version take out the cheapiest/easiest way to grind by using items in Trials before pulling out and doing it again; so you're left with the only grinding possibility being the magic healing zones in a couple of levels and let enemies heal, as far as I understand) but at the same time he says enemies usually have 5 more levels than on normal mode so that doesn't sound that extreme.

>Btw anyone else hate the Monk class? Sorcerers and Bishops are just too strong to pass up and the Monk spells are mostly pointless and expensive MP-wise.

I had one monk and I liked it. However the Saturn version adds some spells for some classes including Monks so I'm not sure if I made use of it (I know the Hero's bird spell is Saturn addition and that's super useful), iirc it was the Monk which had that expensive spell that made anyone immune to physical damage for one hit and I used that quite a bit to set up bait. The circle healing was good too.

>Swordsmen are a bit weak compared to Guardsmen but its nice to have a a medium power highly mobile character especially when Guardsmen class up to Dragoons and lose movement range

I only had one Guardsmen and 2 swordman and I thought the Guardsmen was VERY strong too, however its low movement range combined to his weakness to spells made him deadweight/left behind in several missions. He was usually 2-3 levels lower than my Swordsmen though he didn't exactly need those extra levels. According to gamefaqs the most OP team is to go with 3 Swordmen and 0 Guardsmen and I believe it.

>>11833868 (OP)
Wish someone would just port the updated script from the Saturn fan-tl into the original.

>>11833987
Honestly, given the port was handled by KCE Nagoya, it wouldn't surprise me if Hard mode was half-baked.

>>11833868 (OP)
i don't like how all the characters look like jews mixed with native americans. nice environments though.

>>11834009
I love it

>>11833987
>spell that made anyone immune
Ohh yeah I forgot to use that one lmao
>3 swordsmen ideal
They are pretty squishy though. I like having two guardsmen because you can form a blockade to protect your casters and archers and put mystic shield on them, then have a couple hawknights running around grabbing items and activating switches

>>11834074
>They are pretty squishy though. I like having two guardsmen because you can form a blockade to protect your casters and archers and put mystic shield on them, then have a couple hawknights running around grabbing items and activating switches

That does sound pretty good

>>11834059
t. brownoid

>>11834114
You're fucking ridiculous lmao

>>11834126

Worst thing about this game is that all of Kira's class upgrades further conceal her delicious round set of poundcakes

Anyone tried II? Battle system looks bizzare
>>11834135
Shutup chud

>>11834162
I couldn't get into VH2. The simultaneous movement threw me off and I didn't like that the characters weren't restricted to a specific class anymore.

>>11834074
Meh. Guardsmen/Dragoons are way too slow. By the time they reach the front line. everything is dead already and that is only if they don't get picked off by mages beforehand.

I got this one downloaded and ready to play. I love how it looks visually and the crazy blood effects look fun. I hope I enjoy this!

>>11833868 (OP)
Nice, I'm playing the Saturn version right now. Pretty good game
>>11834059
Me too, real shame that it seems they went with photorealism for the sequel
>>11834139
No kidding. You go the archer route and she's lugging around whatever the hell this is supposed to be. What were they thinking. Should've gave her the same big ass crossbow Amon has, he looks cool

The nice thing about this game is that it makes great use of 3D terrain. Coming off Shining Force 3 and playing this I was constantly being surprised by enemies using terrain in ways I wasn't expecting.

>>11834675
play the take turns hack

>>11833875
go away janny . this isn't your >>>/pol/ board for starting flame wars.

>>11834139
2derpy4me2fap.

>>11833987
i healspam monks to make them overlevelled and powerful. then get other characters to use items on the overlevelled monks to get more XP due to high level difference. all the healers are very cheesable.

>>11833875
go back to plebbit you fucking faggot.
Accelerationism would be opening the border to a never ending horde if violent welfare parasites.

>>11835787
>>11835812
Wow... lol

>>11833875
>he's going to ruin the country with tax cuts and deporting brown people bro
lol

>>11836015
Literally who is going to fix your roof and feed you cheap delicious food and run your hotels

>>11836015
Also deporting immigrants would cause a massive spike in wages so you literally know corpo-bro Trump would never actually do that

>>11836093
none of this would be a problem if you weren't a soiboy failure and your father had taught you how to use a hammer and start a grill

>>11836119
Yeah my dad who doesn't know how to do any of that and still voted trump lmao. I'm a better cook and handyman than my right-wing cowboy-movie dad who worked an office job his whole life

>>11836139
>who is going to le heckin make my chipotle!!!
>n-no seriously bro i can cook and use tools and shit, btw mt father is a fag and loves trump lol
i don't believe anything you said except the implication that your dad failed to raise a heterosexual son in spite of his better efforts. anyway, it doesn't matter, le trumptards won and all you can do is cope with ackshually's. stay mad.

>>11836148
>chipotle
Lol
>trumptards won
Corporations won
Trumptards got played as per usual because you're all gullible as hell
>failed to raise a heterosexual son
I have bedded over 25 women and zero men
>inb4 "y-youre lying!"
Cry more little chud

>>11836165
>Corporations won
which would be the case with literally any candidate of any party. you choose the corporation that best serves your interests and hope for the best. that's life, bud.
>I assure you, I am not a faggot even though I'm a liberal commie pinko who hates his father, in fact I have has sexual relations with at least twenty-five women (no men, no gay thoughts either)
lmao
have a good day man

>>11836179
Never said I hate my dad but he's pretty gullible and politically foolish but that doesn't make him a bad person. Fox news did a number on his generation
>Corporations always win in this system
No argument there

>>11833868 (OP)
I'm playing 2 right now. It's...it's a challenge.

>>11833868 (OP)
Which version should I play?

>>11836452
The Saturn version has a few new items and spells, and if you play with the fan translation you get 240p vertical res like on PSX.
Only drawback is that items/equipment no longer have visual icons, and also sprite scaling doesn't seem to look as good as on PSX.
(Saturn also has exclusive hard mode and new maps if you manage to beat that but you do not want to try that on a first playthrough)

Saturn version also allows 2 in-battle saves (internal memory and RAM cart) if you're interested in exploiting the shit out of that, if not that can easily be ignored

>>11836093
>fix your roof
all of the construction crews in Ohio are white
>more your lawn
we mow our own laws
>cook your food
I cook my own food, but if I went to a restaurant those are white people too.
>run hotels
Couldn't give even a trillionth of a fuck but I'm pretty damn sure white people can run a fucking hotel

you think people in countries like Norway and Slovenia have roofless homes, 6 foot tall grass, and no ability to cook food?

brainless faggot. We don't need you, we don't want you, fuck off and die.

>>11836194
corporations want open borders, you brainless r_dditor faggot.

>>11836492
forgive him, he's a victim of fetal microplastic exposure and corn syrup poisoning. he can't help being a dumb faggot.

>>11836492
Liberals are absolutely convinced that society can't function with brown people doing menial labor. It never occured to them that western society was doing just fine before rajesh and pablo showed up willing to do shitty, accountability-less work for half the pay. It's funny that one of the main things they soapbox about is fair wages when having illegal aliens in the country is what drives employers not to pay people a living wage.

I love the character design and art for this game, you won't find them anywhere else. In fact a lot of early SRPG's like Shining Force, FFT, and the box art for Ogre Battle had unique art styles you didn't see in other RPG's
Of course the one guy that hates it shat up the thread with faggot satanic /pol/ bullshit

>>11834139
I remember the artwork of her in the PS1 instruction manual literally had one of her ass cheeks hanging out just like that too. Took it into the bathroom and jerked off to it at least once or twice.

>>11834675
>>11835494
Even with that hack I found the game to still be well, bad. I just never was able to enjoy playing it. Doesn't help I found the art unappealing.

>>11833868 (OP)
I started with both but I like Vandal Hearts 2 more.
I already started my second playthrough.
I will do a second run of 1 with different classes but man 2 is so good.
Will play that mod that turns it into a generic player/enemy phase game after my second run.

>>11837235
It does this thing where skills are tied to equipment so you're just grinding out skills from a weapon so you can then toss it out. I hate that system. I think tactics advance did that too, drove me crazy. Some people like it though, so lucky them I suppose.

>>11837001

>>11837351
>It does this thing where skills are tied to equipment so you're just grinding out skills from a weapon so you can then toss it out.
I mean they work as standard weapons. Once there is a new one no reason to stick with it just like the first game. Except for the daggers since some daggers give +1 mov so say the Joule gives you the act again skill which you can pass to other daggers but since they dont give +1 move you have to decide wether the damage tradeoff is worth it. Which personally think it doesnt since Joule also has more skillslots.
Anyways I prefer its gameplay to 1 since most classes not magical only have single attack and magic progression is kinda fucked since you get Phase Shift at which point you are waiting for Salamander.
VH 2 is constantly giving you skills with each weapon so it feels more rewarding progression

>>11837404
>11837404
Phase Shift is pretty broken when you first get it but I'll be damned if it isn't fun to use. By the end game though even two casts doesn't even cover half of the enemies HP

>>11837404
It's a silly pet peeve of mine. Never liked the system and I'll drop a game if it has it or something like it. Someday I'll probably try again, I would like to believe there is more then one good Vandal Hearts game. And maybe the story really picks up steam after the first hour or two but that's as far as I ever got with the sequel. Never touched that one I saw that came out on PSN or PS3 or whatever digitally.

>>11837450
>And maybe the story really picks up steam after the first hour or two
Why didnt you like it? I absolutely loved the first few hours.
Playing as country bumpking kids looking up to the swordman as the protag soon realizes there is no justice for peasants and wanting to be more than that really hooked me.
The game really grabbed me from start to end but its maybe because I didn't grew with 1 that the sequel being completely different from didn't jarred me as much.
One thing thats very weak is that characters other than the protag, his love interest, the old man and Nicola dont get much development.
I like how in 1 everyone has some demons that they grow from.

>>11837462
I don't even really recall. I just remember it was a large wall for me to climb when I tried the game out cause it had so many things about it that pushed me back. Like the skills system, the art, the simultanious turn thing. Most of it rubbed me the wrong way in those first hours so I got off the Vandal Hearts 2 train at the next stop. This was forever ago though. So another attempt is probably in order.

I think they kept the insane blood spurts if I remember correctly from the first game. So well done there VH2.

>>11837410
That is why you upgrade to Salamander. It's a beefed up Phase Shift, but it doesn't look as cool.

>>11837462
>that pic
That fight is my favorite in the whole game. It's a ton of fun to wipe out all the enemies instead of just running to the exit.

>>11837806
I tried doing that and I got my ass handed to well. I managed to escape with only the Hero left alive with 30 HP and only because I got lucky and an enemy missed

Since I got the two ground items so I decided not to re-do the mission

>>11837914
Best way to do it is trick enemies into grouping around corners and then bombarding them with AoE spells from your Sorcs, Monks, Paladins and Bishops

>>11833868 (OP)
this game on your memory card triggers a voice line from psycho mantis in mgs
he says something along the lines of 'you like konami games'

>>11837934
Also, block paths with boxes and funnel them into choke points.

>>11838725
Blocking paths can cause enemies to loop around the entire map trying to approach you from the other side, this can be exploited in that specific mission where you are supposed to run away to trick the enemies into spreading out and thus diluting their attack power

>>11834139
Sad to think Konami was this daring back then.