Thread 11835152

This is where Zelda starts and ends.

>>11835152 (OP)
I'm a sucker for 3D action adventure so yes these are peak for me as well.

Any more recs in the vein of:
Megaman Legends
Kings Field
Tomb Raider
Soul Reaver
Gothic

Hard to say what connects them, I guess really good connection between the world and the player? Kinda spiritual, not too autistic

>>11835168
Okami and Darksiders

>>11835174
Definitely gonna play Okami eventually, Darksiders seemed kinda soulless when I tried it around release

>>11835168
Psychonauts

>>11835152 (OP)
Never liked the series so I completely agree.
Good music though.
>>11835174
Okami is a good game to watch somebody else play. That's...some type of game. Just not a fan of these types of games I guess. Get the whatever thing, do the thing.

majoras mask was a mistake so it really ends at oot

>>11835276
Bro has performance anxiety from a zeldor game xD

>>11835152 (OP)
OoT
TP
The perfect duology

>>11835276
Bro couldn't figure out the first cycle

>>11835276
This. OoT is the game they wanted to make. MM is the game they were forced to make.

>>11835314
I'd rather not see the two pitted against each other
They're like night and day, they compliment each other
Ocarina is the sober, rational, direct experience and Majora is the deranged, twisted nightmare that comes after

>>11835194
the first darksiders is a decent OoT clone. the second one pissed me off, though. the fucking prince of persia climbing just ruined it for me.

>>11835152 (OP)
>commercially beloved series with multiple 99th percentile entries actually only has one good game!
I have no idea how people can have this opinion and not realize they are severely retarded. Its like the guy who goes to the doctor to complain that everything he touches is in severe pain when in reality its his finger thats broken.

>>11835649
Its generic as hell dude, complete opposite of what I wanted.

>>11835152 (OP)
Somewhat true. Ocarina of Time was a reboot that did away with the cutesy, cartoony Zelda games that came before and began transforming the series into a lore-driven cinematic adventure. Majora's Mask is more of a companion piece to Ocarina.

>>11835152 (OP)
I prefer the 2D entries. Even for 3D I enjoyed Windwaker more.

>>11835168
>Any more recs
Beyond Good & Evil
Outer Wilds

These are your best bets

>>11835659
OoT is honestly significantly better overall than the rest of the series though. Like, Zelda might be the best game series there is, but a large number of the games might be very strong in some area while being quite weak in some other way, while OoT has the most exceptional strengths paired with some of the least damaging weaknesses. OoT is, honestly and with no exaggeration, like half of the reason why Zelda is so great. The series is full of games that do exceptional things to degrees that are unmatched, but OoT is just a unique total package of an experience that nothing else really replicates, even if other games can be incredibly clever.

>>11835873
I really don't know why this board obsesses over OoT so much, must be 64kiddies. OoT hasn't held up nearly as well over time or on replays as other Zeldas.

>ALttP: timeless 2D artstyle that aged like wine
>OoT: ugly early 3D abomination with muddy textures

>ALttP: smooth, tight, precise, responsive 60fps
>OoT: runs at 15fps, extremely sluggish and laggy

>ALttP: dense overworld full of secrets
>OoT: empty overworld full of wasted space just to hold stick forward through

>ALttP: can see entire room at a glance so puzzles require unique ways of interacting with the environment and thinking outside the box
>OoT: entering first person and looking at a wall is consisered a """puzzle"""

>ALttP: starts you right in the action, can approach dungeons in your own order at your own pace with little bogging you down.
>OoT: constant cutscenes, constant exposition dumps, game treats you like a retard with tutorial every two minutes

>ALttP: combat is fast-paced and challenging with a huge variety of enemies. Spacing and positioning are important
>OoT: Z-targeting removes any challenge of spacing and positioning and makes the combat just a glorified rhythm game. Every combat encounter just involves circling around the enemy, waiting for them to be open to attack, and repeat. It's just a boring, drawn-out slog

>ALttP: dungeons are complex and labyrinthine and require you to create a mental map and learn how rooms are connected
>OoT: dungeons are largely linear on-rails where you just solve the """puzzle""" by entering first person and looking around the room or jumping on some platforms

>ALttP: bosses are challenging and memorable requiring unique methods to dispatch them that you must figure out
>OoT: booses are pushovers that are just a glorified tutorial for the item you conveniently just found in that dungeon

>>11835881
Your points have some validity to them but literally muh atmosphere. Also OoT is a beautiful and sonorous game. I find aLttP visuals to be pretty hit or miss
>Pink hair

>>11835881
All this to say
>it’s no masterpiece

>>11835881
there is no dungeon in alttp that is even 1/3 as complex as forest or water temple

>>11836402
Ganon's Tower mogs.

>>11835276
>>11835314
I don't believe you that you actually believe this. try again

>>11835152 (OP)
Put Link's Awakening in the beginning and WW at the end. For me, my Zelda timeline was like this...

>Funky island. What's Hyrule?
>Ohhh.. this is Hyrule. how comfy.
>Well.. I saved Termina. time to go back home!
>*gets flooded*

>>11835881
/vr/ will be contrarians about every other game except Ocarina. It’s annoying. It’s not even a top 5 Zelda game. It’s not even the best Zelda game on the N64!

Based born in 93-97 microgeneration type of post

>>11837037
We are elite
We carry the future in our hearts

>>11835152 (OP)
Nah.
>Zelda 2
>LTTP
>LA
>Oracles games
>WW
are all good.

>>11837167
>zelda 2
it's not that it didn't have good ideas, shit like super chibi knight did something awesome with the same bones. but adventures of link is just janky garbage.
i honestly really liked skyward sword though, i think people are way too harsh on it

>>11835317
i like your words, magic man

>>11838423
T-thanks buddy

>>11835152 (OP)
Indeed, I'm going to replay them soon for the first time on my 65 inch on the fantastic PC ports. This will be amazing.

yeah, it's true. 2D zelda just establishes the fictional canon. these two games actually utilize it. everything subsequent is disneyfication.

>>11835276
>>11835296
>>11835305
another MM dunning kreuger effortlessly outed as a retarded despite overconfident puffery. good work, /vr/

>>11840473
>dunning kreuger
palpable irony

>>11840507
He's right tho

>>11840507
Good one. Doubly so.

>>11835881
>i don't like it therefore it's bad
The post.

>>11835296
>>11835305
death to zoomers

>>11840691
>It's not as good as a top 5 game all time therefore it's bad
No

>>11835152 (OP)
Needed a third game.

You can't defend MM while calling tears a romhack rehash.

>>11835152 (OP)
>top
Reddit
>bottom
Kino

>>11840854
MM is different enough from OoT, despite the reused assets. TotK literally uses the same map as BotW, it was executed as lazily as possible

>>11843407
it doesn't even matter, because shit of the wild isn't a zelda game anyhow. it's open world slop with a zelda paint job.

>>11835168
>Megaman Legends
Bad EVA zelda ripoff
Rest are pretty good

>>11835881
>>ALttP: timeless 2D artstyle that aged like wine
PFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
that's rich
ALttP in-game is peak programmer art

>>11835152 (OP)
>3D
nah

>>11844943
>Bad
The controls and the dungeons are peak. Overworld, story, game events are a bit halfbaked but overall the experience is great

>>11836402
Except... those dungeons are awful to actually have to do. I have to dedicate a session to those specific dungeon and as I think about it... fuck (you).

>>11845000
>those dungeons are awful to actually have to do

Nuh
Uh

>>11844950
>he picked the dark world fairy who is ugly because the dark world is meant to be a twisted mirror of hyrule
why are you such a nigger?

>>11844950
Absolutely iconic. The first time you leave that house, you just get chills, you know are about to play one of the best games of all time.

>>11835152 (OP)
The Legend of Zelda-Start
Skyward Sword-End

After that they abandoned everything they built and reimagined it as AAA slop. Decent slop, but slop none the less.
>>11835194
Okami is wonderful. A bit on the easy side but its art direction, ost, and dedicated bark button all make it amazing. The only downside is that it's painfully easy... which sucks, because the battle system feels like it could accommodate some cool fights if there was a harder difficulty. It's one of those games that reminded me why I love video games in the first place though.

If you are desperate for more after play Okamiden. Its a wonderful little low poly sequel.
>>11835649
I remember it having an okay start but the cracks really start to show as you go. The combat isnt as tight as you'd want and the puzzles later felt more tedious than fun. It has been too long since I've played it, but I remember just hating the late game.

>>11845905
*the combat is painfully easy
Is what I meant to say

>>11845905
that's lame. Haven't played Okami, but challenging combat is what makes ALTTP so compelling.

>>11845926
Yeah. There are brief moments where the combat shines through and you see what could have been (two boss fights in particular), but most of the time the combat is just "serviceable". I dont think it'd kill most people's experience, but it is noticeable.

Also, if you do eventually play it and beat it, make sure to look up the Japanese version of the ending song. It was one of those cases where they had to cut the lyrics in the eng version. Sucks because its a really chill song that ties the feelsy ending together. I'm so, so worried that the game has a sequel coming. I really hope beyond hope it just gets canceled.

>>11845960
>I'm so, so worried that the game has a sequel coming. I really hope beyond hope it just gets canceled.
mental illness

>>11845974
Considering Capcom has an entire team dedicated to maximizing diversity led by a drag queen and the leaked documents, there's nothing mentally ill about not wanting a creative vision tainted by a bunch of leeches who get paid to spread their cult like ideology in places it doesn't belong.

>>11845905
I hate how disconnected everything in Okami is.
Every single combat puts you in a parallel dimension and it stops to explain every little thing.

>>11835152 (OP)
>crappy Link to the Past ripoff
>crappy ripoff of crappy Link to the Past ripoff

>>11846002
Link to the past is not that tight
Pretty loose in fact

>>11846004
Your mom is loose

>>11846006
It's to be expected

>>11835659
Lol
You stole that example from House Md

>>11835152 (OP)
Except MM is where it starts to become a mere money spinner.

>>11845926
>erm the sword being shit is actually good game design

>>11848029
The sword in LTTP is shit? what the hell are you talking about?

Zelda 1 sword shit because you can only poke? Maybe. Zelda 2 sword shit because it's the length of a boxcutter? Absolutely. But how the hell is the sword shit in LTTP?

>>11848032
he got filtered by the hinox when he first got the the dark world, most likely.

>>11848032
Play LA and get back to me

>>11848058
> with the red tunic and a an attack shard i can one-shot everything that's not a boss, and even kill some of the bosses in like four hits

that's not lttp being shit, that's just LA being broken.

>>11848068
>red tunic
are you retarded? Link's Awakening isn't in color

>>11848068
Moron

>>11847846
Its a very old joke that was also used in house md

>Link to the Past Fans excited to play their favorite game for the first time

nobody actually likes it, you are just pretending

>>11835168
not retro but demon's souls