was this game any good ?

play it and find out summerfag

>>11838532 (OP)
yes. the jumping is a little clunky but other than that i found the gameplay to be pretty enjoyable. good variety in enemies and weapons, and weapons can be chained together for combos if you experiment a bit.

i played the original for a long time but the recent vorpalfix mod for the remaster makes it superior to the original imo

>>11838532 (OP)
Like compare VTM: Redemption & Bloodline, Alice: MR was objectively better

>>11838532 (OP)
Visual design and music are top notch.
Gameplay is kinda repetitive.

>>11838549
>Alice: MR was objectively better
lmao no, it's soulless chink garbage
The platforming is less clunky but everything is soulless and the OST is extremely forgettable

>>11838549
true, MR is one of the best 3D platformers from the 10's
>>11838564
false, MR mogs the original in every single aspect
there is nothing more soulless than generic dull looking early 00's PC graphics

>>11838587
>in every single aspect
Your bait was decent but literally no one thinks MR's OST is better than the original's

>>11838532 (OP)
Linear 3rd person action platformer with bad combat and worse platforming.

rabbit!

>>11838532 (OP)
Not exactly retro, but the sequel has some of the best art direction since Majoras Mask.

>>11838532 (OP)
It's great.
Far better than its Chink sequel.

>>11838532 (OP)
very awkward gameplay but its worth playing for aesthetics and the atmosphere. It feels unique. I'm one of those people that thinks a cool framing can carry bad gameplay

>>11838532 (OP)
gameplay and graphics didnt age good, like many early 3d games. i feel the sequel does everything better but it's still worth a try if you love the idea behind it.

>>11838970
Can does MR run on sixth console?

>>11842632
Wut?

>>11838532 (OP)
child abuse

>>11842632
It's ue3slop, it barely runs on 7th gen

>>11842732
In theory, bet it run Wii U excellent

>>11842732
Runs fine on pc and my Steam Deck. Might actually play through it again aftet this thread.

loli good

>>11838532 (OP)
yea actually
its a fun little early 00s 3D action-platformer
the voice-acting is far beyond what you would expect for some literal who game

>>11842796
>Steam Deck
>latest tech slop
Not retro.

>>11842439
>a cool framing can carry bad gameplay
for a 3D platformer released in 2000 on PC and intended to be played on M+K? its actually pretty fucking good gameplay imo
i can think of quite a few games released several years after this with MUCH worse platforming. if anything it was ahead of the curve
certainly was in terms of its visual design at least

Atmosphere and level design is pretty solid throughout. The Cheshire Cat may get kinda annoying, but that's kinda the point of him.

Gameplay is fun later on, but the early levels are a slog. You spend a huge amount of time shrunken fighting ants and stuff with only a very limited weapon selection, and it just goes on and on to the point you're sick of using the mallet and the knife on literally everything until your eyes bleed. If you can make it past that section, the rest of the game is a lot more interesting.

>>11842909
>literal who
He knew Carmack and worked on Doom and Quake before Alice.

So can megee make reimagined survival horror games about classic grimm tale instead canceling Alice Asylum?

>>11838970
Wish they would port this thing to modern consoles. Kinda meh gameplay but it's a trip to look at

>>11838532 (OP)
If you're going to play it, do yourself a favor and don't play on nightmare. The gameplay is already very repetitive, but I think it's worth playing through it once.

Very mishandled series
>obscure PC game
>took over 10 years to get a sequel
>sequel was rushed/botched by publisher
>original game was ported to 7th gen consoles but only as preorder bonus for MR
>wasn't even a download needed the MR disc to even play it but needed a preorder code
>sequel to MR will never happen
>American McGee himself is basically cursed

>>11843618
>American McGee himself is basically cursed

seriously, his mom basically abandoned him as a teenager to go suck tranny dick instead of raising him.

>>11843621
That and the stuff with his sister going missing

>>11843618
>>original game was ported to 7th gen consoles but only as preorder bonus for MR
What?

>>11843630
I might be completely wrong about this now but the preorder bonus for the console version of Madness Returns was the original game. It was a download from Xbox Live but you couldn't actually just buy it you needed the preorder code and you had to have the MR disc in your console to play it.

It was never ported to Steam with MR or GoG. Very strange way to handle a game

>>11843643
the files are actually in the steam version of madness returns as well, you just need to dig around and run them.

>>11843621
His sister disappear while le journalist are shitty bastard…

>>11843621
Yeah but he also happened to live in the same apartment complex as Carmack who made him into what he is today. That, and he's also living in China with his Asian wife and owns a nice boat. He's simultaneously blessed and cursed.

>>11843243
At least Gaiman didn’t rape Lee… he was raping everyone else apparently

>>11838532 (OP)
It was the type of game where its amazing art design made up for the gameplay itself being lackluster

>>11838532 (OP)
>PLAY GAMES AND FORM MY OPINION FOR ME
>>>/v/

Thoughts?

for the longest time i thought "american mcgee" was the name of a company. turns out its actually the creator's legal name. had odd parents and an odd life

gameplay is repetitive and down right annoying at times but the game's atmosphere and creativity is enough to carry it through.

>>11843909
American... had a hard life.

>>11843283
I'm just glad it runs well on pc. Its terrible when an underrated game has an awful port. Apparently you can access the first game through the steam version of the sequel as well.
>>11843913
Same could be said for Madness Returns. Maybe a bit more serviceable with the Zelda lite gameplay.

>>11843952
Did anything ever come of his missing sister? That really was horrible.

>>11843904
Sexo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtyqBWOZSqY

>>11843649
And just barely that. On pc you just need to download the og files for Alice 1 and change a single line of code from "false" to "true". On the Deck it's even easier.

Gonna finish up the game I'm playing at the moment then do a run through of the series I think.

>>11838532 (OP)
gameplay it's not great, but atmosphere, design, music, and voice lines are excellent

>>11838536
also this, jesus.

>>11843909
>had odd parents and an odd life
that's putting it lightly

>>11844034
She never turned up. American thinks she's most likely dead.

It’s closer to Quake 1 in atmosphere than any of its sequels.

>>11845658
Sucks. I mean, its expected, but it would have been nice for him to at least get some closure.

>>11845721

Happy, healthy people never create anything potent

>>11845658
Gamegate must have broke schizo lefty

Bump wonderland

>>11843618
>American McGee himself is basically cursed
Back when he posted videos talking about Alice: Asylum I would feel bad because him trying to convince EA to make another sequel was clearly futile.

https://youtu.be/eqRLiAXV-zY?si=kX-nfzADh4d_wYZA&t=2346
>

>>11843786
Snadman rape everyone in their sleep.

>>11838532 (OP)
I like it until tranny come to the picture.

>>11846524
S o u l

>played first game as kid
>developed crush on Alice, way before I knew what a waifu was
>years go by until sequel finally comes out
>all comes rushing back
>start to fall in love with her all over again
>entire game is about her going insane because her therapist is mind breaking her in attempt to fuck her and sell her into human sex trafficking
>game ends with line between sanity and reality blurred
>Alice's fate is unknown

Where is Soviet Alice posters?

>>11846524

I liked it, but I also had a goth girlfriend at the time who liked watching me play it inbetween fuck seshes.

>>11848964
I prefer ganguro girlfriend

>>11848964
>gypsy dreams

>>11843630
Wonder that too

Tea party: the games

I never played it. It was one of those "new games" that I thought one day I would play. And now it's on /vr/? What the hell happened.

>>11838532 (OP)
I played the squeakel and I want to play this. How do I play this old game in the year of our lord 2025 on either Windows or Linux?

>>11851890
get the remastered version and install the vorpalfix mod

>>11851890
>>11852119
Now someone need port it on Wii U and PS4

>>11851696
Mouse not invited

>>11843243
Crossover with lollipop chainsaw?

The first game was great excepting the SecuROM bullshit EA forced on it, which later versions of Windows simply banned. Luckily there are patches for that.

>>11838532 (OP)
It is simplistic, but unlike the sequel where I kind of got bored with it overstaying its welcome, the original I played all the way through (twice, PC and as DLC for the sequel). It has the feel like those X-men or racing total conversions of Quake, bolstered by its macabre artstyle. It lacks the polygons and shaders the sequel was able to push to fully realize the intended visuals, but is just so much better paced.

>>11854937
i thought of getting a physical copy of the game after playing it but i ended up getting this poster which i love

>>11854937
>the sequel where I kind of got bored with it overstaying its welcome
I am barely at the end of the industrial world, so at the beginning, and just want to get to the world with the card games... I am already bored lol

yet I somewhat appreciate it, must be one of the last games (if not the last game) that follows that oldschool mario/rayman style 3d platforming

>>11838532 (OP)
the game has some sort of input lag on the ps3.hd release, is it like that on pc too?

>>11855063
Yeah unfortunately. The game has a slight delay on mouse movement by default for whatever reason. There are console commands to get rid of it, but I don't think you can use it on PS3?

seta cg_camerascale "1"
cg_camerascale "1"

Those are the commands if you're able to use the console or edit the config files somehow.

>>11854937
The vault of darkness need modern gen console port

>>11855076
>>11855063
>360/PS3
Not retro

>>11855008
That is quite a brilliant poster featuring the wonderful art of the original game. There is an artbook for the sequel which has a lot of amazing images as well worth getting prints: https://archive.org/details/alice-madness-returns_202401

>>11855037
They have a habit of showing how you have to do something 3 times over in 3 sections in an environment, but they really should have limited it to two or one and leave the remainder as "cut content". Another possibility would be to have the game randomly choose one path per playthrough roguelike-style, just to make replays not exactly the same, so there'd be no fatique with the environments. The Chinese devs even made a Chinese environment which they made some excuse just to have it in the game, so while nice the director didn't want to constrain the creative team, should have attempted some workarounds like my ideas to cut some content in the sequel.

>>11855520
EA and other publishers typically packaged a large variety of games together in one affordable bundle once the games have become old. Just to squeeze out the last bit of revenue from the properties, but gave budget gamers like myself a chance to play the games. It is definitely a positive unique element I enjoyed of physical media in scrounging through clearance bins for games I'd like.