Thread 11873118

What do you think about them?

Do you invest in retro games? Have you had any of your games graded? Thinking about slabbing some of my rare games and selling them on eBay for retards to buy.

>>11873118 (OP)
I'm a pirate

obsessing over video games as physical media makes no sense, it's an inherently digital medium
a book is a physical medium because the contents of the book are directly related to the physical amount of pages of the book, but I could have a USB with 250k copies of SMB3 on it or have another USB with just one copy on it and it makes no difference to the actual end result of playing it. games are just ROMs
and before you say 'muh e-books', those are not the same thing in any way

>>11873193
>and before you say 'muh e-books', those are not the same thing in any way
how are they not the same

cardboard and plastic hoarders deserve what they get

>>11873207
your brain doesn't register the information in the same way as when you read books. look it up

>>11873118 (OP)
I was under the impression the whole market was the creation of one company and that company was doing the ranking, valuing, and selling of the game.
basically you would pay a high price to them but if you tried to resell you couldn't find a buyer.
i wonder if they were part of the tiny hat club

If I do want to collect things, I'll either get somthing personally nostalgic to me(games I played in childhood), or games that look like something I enjoy and actually play. Collecting for the sake of collecting just seems silly to me, especially when its just going to be a wall of games that will just collect dust.

I sold my copy of Silent Hill Origins for 30 bux. Now it goes for 150. Fuck collecting, fuck all that shit, I hate that I even know what's rare and what isn't. Makes me quit this stupid gay hobby

>>11873193
A Star Fox cartridge has a little brain in it, whereas Pride and Prejudice is an ASCII sequence. Please be less stupid. You used the "muh" meme as a fundamental pillar in your argument. Your post is a joke.

>>11873193
If you can fit that many copies of SMB3 on a usb drive surely you can hold way more copies of any novel lmao. What kind of argument is that? Oh books do something different to your brain if u read them physically? Yeah the same thing can be said about retro video games, unless u play on a crt w original hardware your brain doesn’t get the same thing as emulating. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN!

>>11873215
The same argument could be made for emulating or using not a CRT, or using a controller that's different than an original. What's your point?

I'm a collector and I think slabbed sealed games are the least interesting thing to collect. I like playing my cartridges, handling the boxes, flipping through the manuals, etc. Sure, maybe it wears them more and causes nicks and dings from use, but I get far more joy out of piddling around with my old games than I ever would from looking at a sealed game in a plastic tomb. At the end of the day, this was all just shit you could buy at a toy store, and I looked at many a sealed game on a shelf, and handled plenty of sealed NES games in bargain bins back in the day, that I don't really find them all that alluring. Sure, they're a novelty to have in addition to a playable copy,;and I wouldn't pass one up if it were cheap, but there's far cooler things to collect for much less money, like promotional goods and official posters and the like.

>>11873954
Absolutely this, collecting stuff without actually enjoying what you collect is glorified hoarding. All that'll happen is you'll sit around with the crap then it'll get thrown away or sold by your family when you die

>>11873402
>If you can fit that many copies of SMB3 on a usb drive surely you can hold way more copies of any novel lmao. What kind of argument is that?
Just about any novel even in just pure text ASCII format is going to be larger than Mario Bros 3, and definitely if it's in something like PDF format.

>>11873118 (OP)
Isn’t this just another way to launder money?

>>11874260
No, it's hyperrich Gen X/millennial nerds in various tech positions. Same energy as new money boomer carbros buying 3 Aston Martins, including 1 just to do neutral drops in

>>11873118 (OP)
The most based thing graders could be doing is fraud - slabbing the box and selling the cart.

>>11873118 (OP)
I understand doing this with shit like the OP pic where it's a mint copy of an iconic genre defining classic that also had 99% of the boxes thrown away but it's annoying that it makes retards think their used crap is worth anything
>>11874290
based

>>11873215
Sounds like bullshit to me.

>>11873118 (OP)
I wouldn't even get a game graded as a joke. WATA and VGA killed collecting. Even if it regulates it'll never be back to normal for people who actually enjoy playing games.
>>11873954
This is honestly the best mindset a collector could have. Why spend that kind of money on a graded game that's functionally no different than a loose or CIB copy aside from the fact that you can't play it when that money could be used for actual rare and cool shit like promo material, original merch and prototypes?

Ching chong repro shit is the future of retro gaming. The market is fucked.

It'll rot in the box!

>>11873118 (OP)
I have a few games I'd like to get graded. I have a couple really shitty sealed N64 games I'd like to get graded as a joke. I have a rare variant of a sealed Super Mario Kart and a sealed cardboard Earthworm Jim. I don't seek out sealed games, but I have these in my collection and I'm never going to open them because I'm not retarded.
Some recent adds to my collection were three loose puzzle games for Gameboy that I got to the lot for about $15. One of which is a tetris clone I've wanted ever since I saw an advertisement for it when I was eight years old.

>>11873236
Why are you here? You can't cope and you're choosing to seethe. I sold a copy of Origins for $20 because I hated the game and didn't care what it was worth. Which was only $40 at the time. Quit being retarded.

>>11875401
Here where? In this gay thread? Because I like to make fun of your stupid material obsession.
Why are you replying to me? Just to say that you did the same thing? Yeah it's retarded that manchildren are this obssessed with plastic, you should've just said that and agreed with me

>>11873118 (OP)
i don't think at all about that old packaging. i have all the ROMs on an SD card in a cart already

>>11875356
do they not even put dessicant inside?

>>11875412
>obssessed with plastic
And here I thought you couldn't get any more pathetic. Don't bother replying.

>>11875417
I am bothering to reply, since your own reply was so pathetic. Not even a single argument. How sad

>>11873118 (OP)
>signs of the virgin retro collector cooomer

>>11873118 (OP)
>What do you think about them?
I think """people""" who grade their games or buy graded games should be thrown off buildings

>>11873118 (OP)
It pisses off poorfags but what do they know? They failed at everything.

>>11873118 (OP)
Slabbed games are retarded. The point of a video game is to be able to take it out, leaf through the manual, pop the cart in and play. Granted, I'd probably just use a flash cart with real hardware, but I still like owning physical CIB. I do enjoy looking at the box, I do actually look through the manual. It's like having a nice library of rare books that you don't necessarily leaf through when it'd be safer to read an e-copy.

I don't consider buying CIB games an investment. If anything, it's a huge money sink. My collection is probably worth $100k, and I have about another 100k to spend before I consider my collection "complete". I could've invested that money more wisely. But eh, it makes me happy. I like this hobby. I love video games. I don't buy just anything. I buy games that I enjoy or want to play, or are weird and unique, or which have some sort of significance to me.

I get why people call it hoarding, but I also don't fuckin care. There's enough bullshit in the world, so why should I obsess over someone else's opinion about what *I* enjoy? It sounds like jealous cope to me desu.

>>11875584
Oh also, the only graded game I ever bought was a copy of Power Blade 2, and only because I couldn't find a decent CIB for a good price. I fully intend to break it out of its plastic tomb.

>>11873118 (OP)

>Buy game
>Can't play it

Why would you do this

I started selling most of my physical games.
There's no point especially long term as everything goes digital or doesnt get you the whole game on the disc/cartridge anymore.
Having it cut off at the PS2 because of that is lame so why bother.

Sealed games appeal to me but none of mine are graded. No problem with graded for authentication and preservation. If I want to fondle the contents I simply buy another used copy because I'm not poor.

>>11873225
Yea it is a group of investors behind all of this shit:
>Jim Halperin, founder and co-chairman of Heritage Auctions
>Deniz Kahn president of WETA that does the grading and slabbing
Jim sits on WETAs advisory board and they worked with a group of investors to sell rare graded games to themselves to pump the value and gain national media exposure that "graded games are a
Good investment". They created an industry overnight and were in charge of all grading and selling of the premium games, but since they mainly sold to each other it was really just a ruse to draw in investors and advertise their game slab service. They were sued in 2022 over all of this fuckery but it is here to stay now.

Owning a slabbed game immediately invalidates all gamer credibility a person can have. Be sure to relentlessly bully and call them cucks if you see someone buying one or showing it off on social media. Even if its a friend on discord be sure not to hold back with the verbal abuse and let them know how badly they fucked up and no longer have a soul.

>>11873118 (OP)
It's a bubble. Slabbed games are functionally a scam, a retarded game of hot potato between speculators selling their game for more and more, until the unlucky guy who paid a million has the bubble burst on him and he sells for a tiny percentage of his initial investment. Never buy slabbed games. Stupid trend

>>11873118 (OP)
i blame comic book and trading card boomers for bringing their retarded ideology to vidya. motherfuckers would seal a box of cereal in a heart beat.

>>11873118 (OP)
>slab gaem
>battery cannot be serviced
>battery leaks over time
>game ruined
cool

Mental illness

>>11876380
>battery leaks over time
It's a coincell. Not a barrel battery, retard.

>>11876280
Oh no. Someone sealed their fragile comic book or trading card that's worth a couple thousand dollars. My fake sensibilities.

>>11876864
You just went full retard.

>>11873215
I looked it up, it's psychosomatic

>>11876472
>Trunks Open
Imagine the smell

>>11876891
Doesn't understand what he's posting.

Other than text, nothing could be easier to capture and preserve than pre- / non-DRM software, especially the kind that was mass produced and widely available in its heyday. Advancements in emulation over the past quarter century mean that only speculators and diehard nostalgiafags (aka manchildren) should ever really care about physical game media. Slabbing is just another clownishly hyped speculative bubble.

>>11876864
>he has never lost a gameboy or nes game in his life
>he has never bought a thriftstore game to find it "doesn't save"
you must be 18+ to access this website
never return

>>11877769
Dead coincells don't leak you absolute retard. They just lose voltage. How fucking dumb are you people?

>>11877769
>you must be 18+ to access this website
You don't even know what a varta battery is.

>>11877814
>>11877816
What does cause what happened in that picture? Most all of my dead GB batteries have, as you said, simply run dry, but one used game I got had a dead battery, plus a whole bunch of dried greenish whitish residue on the board, plus the battery had a dark spot which appeared to have been the origin of the gunk. Everything, including the smell, reminded me of what happens when batteries leak after being left unused in a device.

>>11876867
That's the point, boomer, it has no business being worth a thousand dollars. Damn, you're retarded. People like you are the reason nobody can afford a house anymore. Kill yourself

>>11877816
VARTA is a company.
They make several kinds of batteries with different chemistry.

>>11873118 (OP)
Not something I'd do but it shows you how much people value video games.

>>11877941
Markets determine what things are worth, not your feelings, whiner.

>>11877720
You're the same kind of fucking moron who thinks that streaming music is superior to actually owning albums. You are a clown.

>>11873118 (OP)
Anon the people "grading" them are the same people selling them and often to each other just to inflate value. It's a complete scam.

>>11873118 (OP)
It's nuts

>>11878931
Sure, you're a real hard businessman with your little toys sealed in plastic. You got your big boy pants on. You're the kind of sucker that actually pays those prices and makes the scam work

>>11879074
What actual acoustic difference is there between listening to a CD vs listening to a CD rip in FLAC vs listening to an AAC stream created from the original masters? Or are you just one of those dorks who fondle themselves thinking of all the exclusive 20th-century media they own that is slowly rotting away and will eventually become lost to time?

>>11879174
I do think there are legitimate outsiders who get roped in, but yes, I definitely think that a decent portion of the market is the same group of speculators buying and selling from each other. Early on it was absolutely, even admittedly, an inside job (and ultimately a marketing stunt), with the infamous $100,000 Super Mario Bros being a group buy between some of the bigwigs in the scene, with the seller being one of their friends.

>>11873118 (OP)
I don't think the Cult of Products will last the test of time.

The most retarded thing one can do to pose as a "retro fan".
If you spend a fortune on a game to NOT PLAY IT you're just posing thinking retro games are a fashion statement.

I would never slab a game or do anything that would otherwise make it unable to perform it's primary function: To be enjoyed.

By locking it away you are denying a game it's sole purpose in life. You are sentencing it to a shameful sad existence, never to be played again. Do you really want that? How do you think the game feels?

>>11880182
Boomers have been doing this since the dawn of time, with everything imaginable. Stamps, Comic Books, Insects, Butterflies. They would do it to their wives and children if they could. It's the boomer way of life. Things aren't meant to be enjoyed, they are just status symbols to make you feel better about wasting your whole life as a wagecuck

>>11877941
>it has no business being worth a thousand dollars
Damn, you're retarded.

>>11878061
Thanks for proving me right. :)

>>11879352
It's nuts how fucking rare a NIB Warcraft on floppy is.

>>11880509
Oh god forbid someone protects a stamp in their collection. You can't mail a letter with a slabbed 1938 two cent stamp. Complete failure for that stamp to do its intended purpose.

>>11879916
>I don't think the Cult of Products will last the test of time.

>graded games
Completely separate "hobby" from actual game collecting. It's just investment bros thinking that they're going to be rich when they sell it to the next sucker.
The topic is more fit for /biz/ and honestly has nothing to do with /vr/

>>11882842
it's not.
i don't think a mass produced print of a game will hold more value over time.
the newer generations don't give a shit about people's old physical NFTs.

>>11873118 (OP)
>What do you think about them?
They're retarded.
>Do you invest in retro games?
No.
>Have you had any of your games graded?
Fuck off.

>>11873215
buncha bullshet

>>11873118 (OP)
>he thinks people actually buy these

>>11873118 (OP)
I don't do the whole graded thing, but I have a few sealed n-gage and gizmondo games.

>>11884302
>old physical NFTs
BrainRot

>>11882841
why even talk to boomers lol you people are worse than toddlers

>>11885162
they want to NFT their blankie for $1,000,000 because it's sentimental to them.
watch Antiques Road Show and you'll learn everything you need to know about these people

>>11885346
they'd appraise & sell off Rosebud if they could.
the irony.

>>11873118 (OP)
>What do you think about them?
I think you should return the slab

>>11885162
Take your L retard

>>11887276
There is no L to be taken. Everybody hates boomers and everything they do is pointless at best and earth-destroyingly retarded at worst. Everybody knows that. A bunch of sad fucks that wasted their lives and made the lives of their descendants worse deliberately. A generation of psychotic failures, easily noticable with behaviour like putting useful things in plastic to make them useless and more expensive

>>11887362
>Boomers have been doing this since the dawn of time, with everything imaginable. Stamps, Comic Books, Insects, Butterflies.
You're argument is so broad that it blames boomers for inventing the concept of museums.

>>11887373
A museum preserves unique things and does research on them. What do you think the concept of a museum is Anon? For people to look at shiny things? Nope. They do public displays to finance more research. A boomer slabbing old mass consumer products for nostalgia reasons has nothing to do with a museum at all

>>11887385
You think books, insects, and butterflies are shiny things? Again, take your L retard.

>>11887401
>the boomertoddler speaks again
No, champ, I don't. See, that's just how people talk. They call it 'figure of speech' - thats a fancy thing that people with an iq over 85 do sometimes

>>11879352

>$4500
>not even the original release
>ghastly huge magazine shite pride of place on the cover

tasteless

>>11887405
What a retard.

>>11873118 (OP)
whats stopping nintendo from just "reprinting" these carts again and crashing the market with no survivors?

>>11887439
Magazine sticker makes it worth more. Also if it was on CD rom it'd lucky to worth a quarter of that price.

>>11888416
Manufacturing. Also it wouldn't matter that much. The box would be plastered with modern amenities like website addresses and the such.

>>11873118 (OP)
It's gay. Take your games out and play them. Games aren't supposed to be some speculative market. Classic commodification of hobbies. You can't just play anymore, you've got to buy and sell.

>>11888443
>Take your games out and play them.
I thought you people like to emulate and play them for free?

>>11888457
>you people
what did he mean by this?

>>11888469
>You people
You people: A phrase used for a group of people or collective outside of what someone identifies with.

>>11874519
its honestly crazy how cheap getting repro cartriges + boxes + manuals is now

>>11876864
zoomie spotted

>>11879894
zero and thats what makes them seethe

>>11888868
Are you retarded? Or just so young that you think you know something about shit you know nothing about?

>>11889481
coin batteries can leak

>>11889517
Yea, maybe but it's pretty fucking rare compared to a modern Chinese alkaline AA battery or guess what, a fucking barrel battery. Coincells leaking and spilling caustic juice is so rare it might as well not even be thought about.

>>11888405
You didn't even tell me to take the L this time, loser
>hurr durr retard
thats all you've been saying this whole conversation lol you're the retard, boomer, and not only because you compare slabbing games to museums kek