There is something timeless about Final Fantasy 4

It was just as groundbreaking as Final Fantasy 7

>>11873196 (OP)
>groundbreaking
no

It's a slightly more colorful version of what they did on the NES outside of the Mode 7. FF6 was the real step up in graphics and sound.

FF4 is very similar to FF2. Right down to the dark knight good/bad shit and then having the son of the dragoon from that game. Really FF4 feels like they wanted to do FF2 again

>>11873198
>>11873202
It was groundbreaking in terms of storytelling retards. No other console RPG before this had stuff like deaths, betrayal, love and actual plot twists.

Also you need to be 18+ to post here zoomies

>>11873230
...except FF2 did.

>>11873230
>No other console RPG before this had stuff like deaths, betrayal, love and actual plot twists
FF2 and FF3 had this. Everyone dies in the FF games it wasnt invented in 4. You need to play some famicom rpgs

>>11873230
sorry but there is nothing groundbreaking about jrpg stories. i like the games but literally every one of them is about people flying an airship to collect macguffins to save the world.
>deaths, betrayal, love and actual plot twists
all these things are like 2 lines of text each meant for children

>>11873230
>>11873237
>>11873263
FFIV does more in terms of having sprites act out the scenes than II or III did. Plus the way the music is timed along with the scenes and everything adds a bunch to the experience.

>>11873230
>implying any FF game, including 6 and 7, has a story worth caring a fuck about

This why nobody takes you jarpig weebs seriously

>>11873286
9 and 10 have great, unique stories

you are just being a contrarian faggot

FF4 popularized the horrible fad in JRPGs of constantly being forced into changing/losing party members as the plot progresses during your journey instead of (You) building a party to conquer a certain obstacle at hand.

FF6, of course, being the absolute peak of this bullshit and a dogshit game as a result. It's the first video game I can honestly say works better as a novel.

>>11873318
>horrible fad in JRPGs

Name 5 examples

>>11873327
Games where you are forced into changing/losing party members as the plot progresses during your journey:
Final Fantasy 2
Phantasy Star 2
Mother
Dragon Slayer Eiyuu Densetsu 1
Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei 2
Gdleen
Final Fantasy 4
Illusion City
Tengai Makyou 2
Luna the Silver Star
Dragon Quest 5
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 7

>>11873343
Phantasy star 2 death of nei hit way harder than most. Cutest party member.
And it was 2 years before FF4 released.

>>11873357
It didnt hit me very hard because I died to the boss where she dies so I had to redo the dungeon again and see the scene again.

>>11873343
>Phantasy Star 2
Besides Nei you just gain party members
>Mother
You gain and can trade Lloyd for Teddy

Could've used some better examples, like Grandia. I think changing your party up can be cool anyway.

>>11873373
>Could've used some better examples
you are welcome to post whatever you'd like im just a participant in the thread

>>11873318
I absolutely loved it in 9.

variety is kino and you get to see different perspectives

>>11873302
It's great how prominent stories have become in videogaming. It lets you instantly clock people as illiterate retard autists who shouldn't ever be listened to or interacted with when otherwise you might have to have a tedious and exasperating back and forth before you can be sure.

>>11873375
>you are welcome to post whatever you'd like im just a participant in the thread
Nah bro you did fine, I'm just pointing out that those couple examples don't involved changing your party much besides adding characters to it.

>>11873263
You can read your Tolstoy and also play your silly videogame and enjoy it for what it is. If you're chastising people for following story in a videogame you're probably not engaging with higher media yourself.

>>11873196 (OP)
The graphics are shit but the music is incredible.

>>11873196 (OP)
It was literally more primitive than FF3 in every way except graphics (barely) and the ATB system (that barely worked)

>>11873196 (OP)
But FF4 is just FF2 rehash.
I think Ff2 is more groundbreaking because it had proper characters and story back in the Snes.
Ff2 deaths also had weight and werent cheap feel bad "deaths".
Cain is a Leon knockoff.

>>11873357
Goddammit I was going to play for this cutie and she dies?
HATE fucking Japs killing cuties to fuel the shitty plot.
Fuck off!

>>11873327
Glad >>11873343 had me covered because I was just going to list Final Fantasy games...

>>11873327
>>11873343
SMT 1 and 2 both have human characters joining and leaving the party at almost random points taking all their equipment with them, with the only person left being the female lead (Heroine) but that isn't until at least more than halfway through the game.

>>11873929
forgot to mention that they also take their magic with them since the player character cannot cast any magic whatsoever despite having a Magic stat (needed to level up to 11 to progress).

>>11873196 (OP)
>hmm the king is suddenly misbehaving badly like a bad man
>he wants to destroy the crystals?!?
>i think that's a bad thing to do
>but im only a Dark Knight.....
>but protagonist you must do good!!
>what can i do?!! I am only a Dark Knight.......
>OH NO THIS WAS A RUSE
>the misbehaving king planted a bomb on me!!!
>that's it i wont do bad things no more!!!!!
Riveting writing

(I'm kidding, it's for kids, it's fine)

>>11873230
Mother 1 was 1989

>>11873914
Rika in PS4 is the same race and cute too, and she doesnt die. Better overall game too.

>>11874047
Forgot pic. The cat-elf in a leotard was a good design choice.

>>11874047
you're autistic aren't you

>>11874063
Why are you calling him autistic? He's right.

>>11874063
What do cute spacecats have to do with autism?

>>11874063
You say that like it's an insult here.

Personally I hated all the forced drama in FF4. Every other scene is supposed to be really dramatic or tragic, it gets so predictable.

>>11873230
Every single Final Fantasy fag should be legally forced to play Dragon Quest 4 imo.

>>11874339
DQ4 truly is a groundbreaking storytelling experience that doesnt significantly compromise its teambuilding freedom like FF4 does.

>>11873397
this

Niggers need to read a book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8