Any JRPGs with characters not looking so eh, effeminate?

This is infinitely better and cooler than spiky haired teenagers in mesh shirts and mall goth shit

>Any music recommendations to someone whos deaf?

>>11876804 (OP)
Silva Saga series

>>11876832
booty cheeks

>>11876804 (OP)
No? The J is for Japan

>>11876804 (OP)
Sure the main character is a girl, but look at the manly feats in the background

>>11877274
>4 party members
>One is teenage girl
>One is cat
>One is femboy wizard
Peak machismo here. Rambo would shake in his boots

>>11876804 (OP)
I don't find any man or depiction of a man "effeminate"
If you look at a man and see traits of your opposite sex that's an issue on your end.

>>11876804 (OP)
FFV. Nothing but pure masculinity here

>>11877417
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this website.

>>11877443
Said like a real closeted homo

>>11877284
>femboy wizard
Your brain has been poisoned.

>>11877437
Who even is this character
I swear Amano would just draw some random dudes and then was like
>so uhh yeah this is uh, the guy, you know, the one with the sword
>wow Amano sensei this design for our villain Karkafloof will fit perfectly in our game
>rrright, that's him

>>11877417
>see picture of a guy wearing makeup and a dress with a stuffed bra
>nothing effeminate here bro
you tried to be ebin by subtly implying that you could never possibly think of a man in a womanly way, which would be commendable if not for you being a pseud and failing to realize "effeminate" literally means a man acting in a way common for a woman that is inherently inappropriate. at best, you are a retarded straight guy, but based on the content of your post, my diagnosis is that you are a retarded fag.

>>11877467
A man sees another man and simply does not register "woman"
See a guy in makeup and a dress? That's still just a guy.

>>11877465
This dude's art is so pretentious and gay. It's funny when somebody posts the AI stuff of his work and newfags go "wooow amazing, he was so talented".

>>11877474
>See a guy in makeup and a dress? That's still just a guy.
and that's why "effeminate" implies a man behaving in a womanly way that isn't socially appropriate. you're conflating "effeminate" and "feminine". please learn to read bro.

>>11877478
What's pretentious about it? It's good art of fantasy settings, where's the pretence?

>>11876804 (OP)
OP they look like this in-game.

>>11876820
Yeah no, old FF art always looked so gay.
It's no wonder it got big when ff7 ditched that weird shit

>>11877486
Your party is made entirely of gigachads

>>11877486
They only do if you play the shitty version of the game

Mother

WTF is this thread? Seriously this isn't even funny in an ironic way

Just cause your dad beat you up so you "wouldn't turn gay" doesn't mean you gotta take it out on Final Fantasy

>>11877516
>baiting to talk about the FF7 crossdressing and bath tub rape again

>>11877516
They were both gay, just 80s vs 90s gayness. You went from David Bowie to Trent Reznor, both fags one just thinks he's dark

>>11877631
The Amano madness never showed up much in the actual games though, whereas Nomura's awful ideas did, thanks to the curse of 3D graphics.

>>11877536
I'm sorry the what?

>>11877731
the shitty version of the game

>>11877852
Are you allergic to old games or something?

>>11877853
No, just busted garbage version of FF2

>>11877852
So what do they look like in the other versions?

>>11877854
That's not FF2.

>>11877857
Then that's on you, for saying it looks like that when it's not even the same game

>>11877860
Are you a special type of retarded? Do you know what the first three games look like? Are you aware of what the art for each of them looks like?

>>11877863
Are you? OP mentioned the gayness of Firion, and you presumably posted a sshot of FF1 saying it looks like that in-game

>>11877865
So what's the difference? Because OP can complain about Amano art as much as he wants, it all looks different in-game.

>>11877874
well the gigachads in your FF1 image aren't in FF2 is the difference

>>11877882
And yet...

>>11877631
80's gay will always be better
Elegant, flamboyant yet reserved. Fancy clothing and trying to look important. 90's gay is just dildos and shit

>>11877516
>went from guys with swords and crazy armor(just like real knights) to metrosexual twinks in fluffy jackets(NOTHING like "Fantasy")

>>11877901
https://youtu.be/88sARuFu-tc?si=dlqdJGwcbXxIt2x2

>>11877464
even at my most boymode, i get creeps categorizing me as "sex thing" and acting creepy just because i'm not fat or bulked, and have some hair

>:(

>>11877464
actually he was deliberately designed to be androgynous

>>11877970
It's the "femboy" part I take umbrage with.

>>11877465
kek

>>11877465
hey if you insult this art you're racist

>>11876804 (OP)
lol no
probably not

>>11877465
It’s Faris, btw

>>11877464
>>11878349
iirc the lady who wrote the story actually unironically wanted him to be some sort of genderswap space-ranma bullshit
it was naka and the rest of the ppl at the office that talked her off the ledge and said it was too weird. probably called her a fujo and told her to go take a bath

>>11876804 (OP)
Manly boss:
https://files.catbox.moe/pstvn6.webm

>>11878624
That's still very far away from being a femboy. Hell, looking androgynous on purpose is somewhat textbook for the enligtened magic user type, especially in a scifi setting.

...however, I call pedantry. Sure it's not the correct word but I got the point, lmao.

>>11876804 (OP)
Muscle-bound masculine guys like the West likes was/is the gay stereotype in Japan, you won't find too many

>>11877467
>see picture of a guy wearing makeup and a dress with a stuffed bra
Hey, show some respect, those guys founded the USA

>>11880597

>>11880605
It's funny how less outlandish the original Final Fantasy trilogy looks when you consider how certain people dressed in 16th century Europe.

I like Amano’s watercolors and anyone who doesn’t sucks cock by choice.

>>11880606
Yeah, in general people have a very distorted view of history, and fashion is no exception.
I was reading a 13th century document about city laws in Florence regarding public decency: basically the husbands of wealthy women were complaining that dresses with very deep cleavages (down to the belly button) were in fashion, so they felt the need to do something about it.
They passed a law that forced dresses to "have fabric that covered the abdomen up to neck-lenght".
Of course women started using the exact same dresses but they sewed transparent silk over the holes so that it technically had fabric of the legal lenght.
Or in 17th century Venice laws had to be made about a particular kind of shoe that became exceedingly popular among men because they started making them bigger and bigger with more elaborated decorations.

>>11880627
> was reading a 13th century document about city laws in Florence regarding public decency: basically the husbands of wealthy women were complaining that dresses with very deep cleavages (down to the belly button) were in fashion, so they felt the need to do something about it.
>They passed a law that forced dresses to "have fabric that covered the abdomen up to neck-lenght".
>Of course women started using the exact same dresses but they sewed transparent silk over the holes so that it technically had fabric of the legal lenght.
Kek, women have always wanted to display their bodies to as many men as possible even when fucking married. The eternal thot.

>>11880635
>women have always wanted to display their bodies to as many men as possible even when fucking married
That may be true, but it's more about dick measuring contest.
The will to flaunt anything to say "I am better than you" is inherent in any society in both men and women.

>>11880635
For the upper classes, sure. Paupers meanwhile still lived in mud and burlap sacks.

>>11880671
>Paupers meanwhile still lived in mud and burlap sacks
When the prior post said
>in general people have a very distorted view of history
kek the irony
Did you learn history from videogames?

>>11876804 (OP)
FF7
>Real men who keep it 100
>Cloud aka Mr.IDGAF, has countless women trying to get some
>Blackest man in video game history Barret
>Alcoholic chainsmoker womanbeater Cid
>Womanizing Turks
>Main villain uses his powers to make other men beat women
>Gambling on horse races
>Checking out women's underwear then telling everyone about it
>Most testosterone-laced movie ever with non-stop ass whuppings being handed out

>>11880693
>Blackest man in video game history Barret
>is a devoted single father
???

>>11880698
That's oldschool black man, not new school zoomer black manchild
Old school stick around to make sure the kids have a fresh ass whupping waiting for them everytime they get home

>>11880525
>That's still very far away from being a femboy
no
its actually pretty much dead on for what shipped in the final game: he just ended up being a really gay looking space wizard
meanwhile, "femboy" actually isnt even gay enough to accurately describe what he was originally supposed to be. he was literally supposed to be a magic space tranny. his gender would change according to how you, as alis, played the game and made decisions during the story

go look it up, its pretty well documented
naka and the boys were like, "no, thats fucking weird, go take a bath". and presumably, she did, because hes just a dude wearing gay clothes in the US ver

>>11880707
Regardless, OG Phantasy Star is real man shit with no maps, countless merc'ings, obtuse secrets and an almost impossible to figure out final dungeon that I don't even know how I got through

>>11877274
>>11880707
That guy in Phantasy Star 1 has always reminded me of Sypha from CV3

>>11880690
Yes I'm sure peasant women had the same pull that middle and upper class women had.

>>11880698
He's the daddy that girl needed (did you really fucking think a white girl was legitimately his?)

>>11880705
>barret is pre-crack epidemic black dad
actually probably literally what happened
90s japan was still on the early 60s-80s black culture stereotype, blissfully unaware of the ongoing niggification of the nogs at the time

>>11880714
yea its so awesome i love that game
i really wish the first-person dungeon crawl became the "normal" for jarpigs. instead of the overhead, see-through-walls shtick, that usually just results in boring 2D mazes with dead-ends you can literally see coming.
PS you can actually get lost in, or even trapped in, the dungeons if you keep forgetting where the false floors are. gives it a flair/thrill you only got from western CRPGs at the time. actually threatening dungeon crawls

>>11880705
>That's oldschool black man, not new school zoomer black manchild
How oldschool are we talking? Deadbeat black dad memes go back a long way.

>>11880734
> boring 2D mazes with dead-ends

>>11880756
yea exactly
the entire genre and this series just never did it ever again, and i just cant imagine why. it was THE thing that made PS stand out from FF and DQ. well, maybe the high-fantasy space setting/cinematic cutscenes too
but u kno wat i meme
it was an important part of that games magic

>>11880727
>the same pull
Peasant women did the exact same shit rich women did on a smaller scale with less resources
They showed off and had internal fashion trends relative to their small villages
You don't need to be a rich noblewoman to remove some fabric from the breast area of your holiday clothes and add extra material around the shoulders to make the other women at the Spring Festival seethe
Also the statement
>Paupers meanwhile still lived in mud and burlap sacks
is absolutely retarded and makes it clear you have a fantasy vision of history based on fictional narratives

>>11880776
The Enlightenment really did a number on perceptions of Medieval Europe in general. Might have been history's first Reddit moment, if that honour doesn't go to The French Revolution.

I seem to recall that one of the phantasy star devs was also genuinely simping for nei and wanted them to be in games after psII as well, to the point where Rika/Fal was supposed to just be Nei originally. I believe there's even an actual fanfic-tier side story where Nei shows up to kill some clone with the mc but he gets conveniently memory wiped.

>>11880776
Bet you vote blue.

>>11876804 (OP)
Langrisser 4 protag looks very CHAD.
Cloud looks very effeminate now with all side content but he looks great in FFVII proper and official at the time art.
Vandal Hearts 2 has a realistic and gritty artstyle so the protag looks like a man.
Vandal Hearts protag Ash also looks manly.
Claude Kenni from Star Ocean 2 is a kid but has an air of "will grow to be Chad".
Hector from Fire Emblem gba looks very manly. Ephraim from the sequel isnt that far off.
Dragon Quest V protag is a manly mage who survived years as a slave.
SMT nocturne protag looks scrawny but his Demi Fiend form is edge kino.
Holmes, Tear Ring Saga second protag is manly and based.
Denam from Tactics Ogre is normal looking.
Maxim from Lufia and the men party members are manly.

>>11880887
>Dragon Quest V protag is a manly mage who survived years as a slave.
Not a huge fan of V but that shit goes hard

>>11880853
Bet you're a nigger

>>11876804 (OP)
Genuinely one of the most retarded threads I've ever seen.
>any comic books with characters not looking so eh, effeminate?