It's starting to feel this way.

Fan PC ports like Harkinian too.

Owning the games is an imposter. It's about downloading roms from the web for free, not spending money on media.

>>11896245
Owning the games from back in the day, then

>People who don't own a Mister are CONSTANTLY screeching and sperging about those that do. Shitting up interesting threads about core developments and the future of FPGA emulators. Even mentioning a Mister core is seen as a paid shill effort despite being an open source hobbyist project.
>Mister owners do not care at all and very often use other software emulators themselves in addition to their Mister. They mostly just want to be left alone to talk about their device.
Also very interesting that the Mister seething has dropped off quite a bit now that we have cheap clones from Taki that even third worlders can afford. Was it just sour grapes all along?

Never a big emulator fan or user, recently tried a few to play some game without setting all the physical shit up, and was amazed at how much issues there still are, whether graphical, crash-related, input response, etc , even for the major games on a console. Wtf happened? Did they only focus on Playstation and SNES or something?

>>11896279
>Did they
You mean random people who decided to reverse engineer a console? Maybe you should give it a shot if you're so unsatisfied

>>11896279
>at how much issues
>, etc ,
Which system and game where you trying to emulate, Mr ESL pajeet? You've got to be more specific. I really don't trust "saar I am seeing issues on screen!" anymore ever since I read a few GitHub bug trackers and found a huge chunk of them were from brownoids who don't understand the need for BIOS files or that old games displayed in 4:3 not 16:9.

>>11896241 (OP)
>emulation
>emulation of roms
>emulation of the good old days
And all imperfect. If you do any of those things you simply haven't even played the game. Release date in native region and you need to be aged 8-12 during that period. Memories aren't valid either as those are imperfect.

>>11896241 (OP)
Not putting pirate games instead of mister, are hipsters so desperate for confirmation.
Mister is an emulator and nothing else no matter how you paint it is the same you use on pc.

>>11896279
Jeez, man. SNES and PSX are much simpler and easier to emulate than anything newer.
You have to be willing to experiment with everything yourself to get settings that match the game to the emulator and the emulator to your PC (even on SNES and PSX games sometimes). I know, you want there to be a site that handholds you and lists "perfect settings" but that isn't how it is.
Emulators aren't going to be 100% perfect no matter what. I still use 'em if there's no PC port and only occasionally find games that I can't get working well enough that I don't notice It is what it is.

>>11896282
>>11896286
By the first two posts it seems I am in for people really getting offended for no reason, but anyway:
>P64
Smash Bros. hangs and crashes randomly. Emulator also freezes up. Input response is bad.
Mario 64, whatever it is called when textures aren't there and it's just black in certain areas for a second.
>Fly-whatever for DC
Sonic Adventure huge issues rendering graphics, hangs for inordinate amounts of time during loading sections.
Have to do some workaround to get the VMU screen.
>Dolphin (seems to be the best one out of what I tried)
Doraemon, aspect ratio constantly bugging out.
Pokepark, issues with the aspect ratio and motion RoM.

>>11896298
>Jeez, man
You have people ITT saying emulators are trash and you didn't play the game, yet everyone piles onto me who just gave an honest reaction to trying them for the first time in many years. If anyone runs an emulator and Mario as well as Sonic don't run right, they are going to be surprised. Obviously not an expert, but I am guessing input issues can't be fixed and will be trying a different emulator if there is a next time.

>>11896263
I don't think of you at all

honestly with newer monitors and shaders, emulators are by far my preferred way to play despite owning a massive collection of physical games

shaders just look better than actual crts now and xbox controllers are comfier than holding an actual nes controller

>>11896308
>PJ64
No one uses Project64 except for Ukrainians with potato laptops. It's been outdated for years and years. Use Ares, Simple64 or Mupen64 with Parallel RDP. N64 emulation has come a very long way in recent years but retards still think its stuck in the 2000s because their PCs cant run anything more taxing than Project 64.
>Dolphin issues
Lock your aspect ratio to 4:3 or 16:9 rather than Auto.

What the fuck is MISTER? What the fuck is an "EVERDRIVE"?

Emulating is not so much about money, I have enough money saved up to buy all the retro games I play, emulation is just the superior way to do it. Downloading a ROM is infinitely faster (and more convenient) than buying a physical copy. Not to mention, the physical copies degrade, which software never does. And to be autistic, games are software, not hardware. If the game is on your hardware, which you legally own (your PC's harddrive) then you "own" the game.

Not to mention the real advantages that you get when emulating, over using so-called "real" hardware. You can slow down or speed up the game, you can even reverse the emulation, save-states, live recording, using any controller you like, you get access to achievement databases, and Netplay on systems like NES which is totally impossible on an old NES.

I had a short time when I thought that "real games" on "real hardware" was the supreme way. But during that time I saw myself becoming a "coollector", I started basically hoarding old plastic instead of actually playing games. Now I've fully embraced emulation, I don't even keep physical copies of games anymore (with two exceptions; One DVD to confirm ownership of my Steam account in case of a ticket issue, and one non-functioning diskette of a childhood game that I keep just for memories or to use as a coaster)

>>11896241 (OP)
idgi

>>11896263
What's the point of using other software emulators when you have a mister?

>>11896451

>>11896462
I'm NEET:ing, I just had my coffee, I have nothing better to do this morning so I can take a moment to respond to the bait ...

>>11896448
Thanks for the info.

Okay.
You can keep arguing, I'll be playing games.

>>11896241 (OP)
Why is one of the emulator people on the bottom left?

>>11896263
Paying for emulation isn't a scam anymore when the price is reasonable.

>>11896241 (OP)
>Shit of Hotcaca

>>11896263
i still havent even looked into whatever tf that shit even means desu
i couldnt care less
all the emulators i frequently use have already been working fine for like a decade. sometimes even longer looking at kega fusion, which was basically perfect like 20yrs ago

it's more like lois (way getter graphics)

>The thirdie seethe being directed at this post
Lol

>>11896606
It's because misterfags believe they are among the elite, when in fact they're just a spin on emulators, a brother to the sister. The picture is layered satire.

>>11896881
Mister emulates the hardware, so that each game performs like native, right? And there's support for analog outputs

if I got that right, Mister is absolutely going to be more accurate than an emulator.

Emulation is yesterdays news. If it's not a decomp or recomp I want that shit native

>>11896241 (OP)
I have an FXPak Pro and still play most SNES games on my PC for the sheer convenience of emulation.

>>11896895
Do you think emulators don't emulate the hardware?

>>11896903
They approximate it

>>11896930
Weird they're called emulators instead of approximators.

>>11896895
If it's perfect, why do they keep updating their cores? Anon who you quotes is right, mister kids pretends to be seen on par with people who play on original hardware but in reality it's the same as software emulation.

>>11896245
Getting an Everdrive is basically a happy medium. You load the games onto the actual console and then play them from there

Mister is still just emulation

>>11896942
Because it's brand new and they're still ironing stuff out?

Like I said, to my understanding there's a difference between emulating the console using software and hardware. Hardware emulation, if done fully successfully, is essentially like PS2s that have PS1s inside of them or Wiis with GameCubes inside of them. There's some minute differences in presentation, but there aren't going to be the sort of issues software emulation can run into like seams on what are supposed to be semi transparent textures, and other major graphical glitches. Not to mention the massive overhead for software emulation compared to physical

>>11896994
You have zero clue what you're talking about.

>>11896881
By that logic the Everdrive should be in the same boat, it also emulates the cart and any special chips on it, there are Genesis Everdrives that even emulate the entire SegaCD on their FPGA.

>>11896942
>If it's perfect, why do they keep updating their cores?
If Everdrives are perfect why do they get updates too? Why did the Saturn and PS1 even have later models with updated firmware?

Also you realize not all of the MiSTer updates are for the emulation itself? Many add features or are just a framework update.

Nobody shitting on Mister has yet to explain how hardware emulation is equivalent to software level emulation other than "dey have same wurd in dem"

>>11896994
We have hyper autists who have made perfect hardware emulators for PC if you want them that badly. Nobody uses them because of how little difference it makes.

>>11897054
Dito in the other direction other that "it hardwur tharfor it betta"

>>11896241 (OP)
Once you get over the mental obstacle of needing the absolute highest possible accuracy when playing the games it becomes impossible to go back to playing anything else than emulators. The convenience and quality surpass every other option in every other regard than sheer accuracy.

>>11896263
Bad faith post. There were a great many Mister shitposters bragging about their superiority.

>>11896241 (OP)
Only on /vr/. It's not the 2000s anymore, emulation is really damn good.

I emulate gen 6 and 7 because emulators make these games run and look better than any console or scaler could ever do. The only exception is the wii.
Everything prior to that is original hardware with ODEs and flashcarts.

>>11897159
>Dito in the other direction other that "it hardwur tharfor it betta"
Wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMMiBEhnizE

>>11897339
>no test suites
waste of half an hour

>>11897176
You mean there were a great many trolls who got butthurt any time the mister was mentioned, like that one person who would sperg out and post that copypasta in every MiSTer thread since 2022, he was still doing it as of March of this year.

>>11897348
>Explains why a FPGA has fundamental advantages over software emulation
>"But there are no synthetic tests!"

There are, and MiSTer cores can pass test that fail in most software emulators, but if I posted those you would then complain then are synthetic tests and don't translate to real-world usage, which is shown in that video. I know how people like you love to move the goalposts.

>>11897359
post them

>>11897363
Literally just did, on both counts

>>11897283
>The only exception is the wii.
You mean for those games that are dependent on motion controls, right?
Wii games look fantastic in HD, and you can remap the controls to remove waggle from a lot of games.

>>11897371
Yeah, you cherrypicked the Saturn, the one console where the Mister is actually more accurate that any software emulator. But guess what, that's not down to it being FPGA. That's simply down to the people working on Mister having the drive and tenacity to do it. It's not impossible to make Saturn accurate in software, it just hasn't been done.
Also if you do post test results, you should bother to post them for both sides you're comparing, not just one.

>>11897378
>Saturn doesn't count!

>>11896241 (OP)
>Fan PC ports like Harkinian too.
No, that's just emulator cope.
Full decompiled ports are based as fuck.

>>11897381
I never said that, I literally said it is more accurate on Mister, but not for the reason you think it is.
If there was something about software emulators somehow preventing perfect accuracy other than lack of people bothering to implement it Mister should have better test coverage across the board.

>>11896245
TOP COPE

>>11896612
You were never paying for MiSTer. If you payed for the software that makes a DE-10 a MiSTer you're retarded and you got scammed because you're retarded. MiSTer is free and has always been free.

>>11897376
Honestly, I just keep it for light gun and rail shooter games. I know I can get it all setup on PC but it's quick and easy for when friends are over.

>>11896241 (OP)
Everdrive has emulators on cartridges you have to buy. normiecucked product

>>11896994
Didnt ps2 have an internal ps1 emulator

>>11897354
What the fuck is an FGPA?

>>11896241 (OP)
Never tried mister or everdrive but I wonder if paying for things causes you to psychologically perceive it as better. I had a ps2 I played often for a decade til I stopped caring to fix it again and PSCX2 was an on par or better experience. Any issues were minor (I dont remember much off the top of my head) and I could use any usb controller. I got into emulation in like 2022

>>11897649
It had an internal PS1, which it used for audio and inputs, and backwards compatibility. And even that had some compatibility issues sometimes.

>>11897660
Faggot Gaming Product Accessory

>>11897664
>Faggot Gaming
That's kind of redundant.

>>11896967
Everdrives and a lot of flash carts actually emulate a lot of things. but it's the same outcome

>>11896263
I thought about it, but after realizing you can’t even play PS2 or Dreamcast games on them I ditched the idea indefinitely. Not paying $600 or even $200 taco udon clones for something a junkyard laptop can do

>>11897708
The only reason I got one is easy output to a CRT. You would have to be retarded to buy it to use on a modern TV instead of using a PC