Thread 11902529

A link to the past is 10/10.

Ocarina of time is 9/10.

A link to the past is just raw, unfiltered gameplay. The story is great, even epic, but kept to a minimum. There is a manual and an introduction video, the rest is left to your imagination.

The world is fucking gigantic. You got 2 entire worlds filled to the brim with stuff and 12 fucking dungeons.

The music is fantastic and iconic. Ocarina of time refined it, but ALTTP pioneered it. That game pioneered everything good about Ocarina of time, therefore it deserves to be 10/10.

>>11902529 (OP)
True

>>11902529 (OP)
>not posting the superior japanese cover

>>11902529 (OP)
Pretty cringe take considering what a huge downgrade ALttP was from the NES games.

>>11902584
>proud faggot Link doesn't have his pink hair on the cover, and the character art contrasts with the background in an cheap, ugly way
Duplicitous slop

>>11902584
I miss when Link was some some vaguely elf/goblin-like creature like piccolo and not some andogynous pretty boy that homosexuals fantasize about.

>>11902529 (OP)
It's bland and not as interesting as even the handheld Zelda games. Sorry you're feeling insecure about the fact that LTTP lives in the eternal shadow of OoT though.

>>11902619
It did more for the franchise than those fanfic tier games you fucking zoomer

Learn more about gaming history, most games have mechanics that can be directly traced back to ALTTP. It was fucking revolutionary.

>>11902616
I feel like Link appeals to fujoshi much more than gay men.

Way to piggyback off my post(you know what you've done, you thought I wouldn't notice?) and make a much weaker argument

OoT magnified aLttP's strengths to make a much more impactful and fun to play experience. OoT has cooler bosses and better dungeon theming . aLttP dungeons are mostly bland

>>11902628
How so?

>>11902636
Oh really?
>start playing OOT
>10 minutes of intro with slow as fuck text
>go to the tree
>5 minutes of slow text
That whole game is slow as fuck. It's more like a movie. ALTTP is an actual game.

>>11902616
>I miss when Link was some some vaguely elf/goblin-like creature like piccolo and not some andogynous pretty boy that homosexuals fantasize about.
pic not related

>>11902646
You're supposed to grow out of your hates-reading phase

>>11902672
Not an argument

>>11902590
In what way is it a downgrade? It's the opposite really, they improved on nearly aspect and I loved Zelda 1 (Zelda 2 was okay..)

>>11902681
The argument is that the text is good
>No it isn't
Yes it is. Get over it and eat your vegetables you big baby

>ALttP: timeless 2D artstyle that aged like wine
>OoT: ugly early 3D abomination with muddy textures

>ALttP: smooth, tight, precise, responsive 60fps
>OoT: runs at 15fps, extremely sluggish and laggy

>ALttP: dense overworld full of secrets
>OoT: empty overworld full of wasted space just to hold stick forward through

>ALttP: can see entire room at a glance so puzzles require unique ways of interacting with the environment and thinking outside the box
>OoT: entering first person and looking at a wall is consisered a """puzzle"""

>ALttP: starts you right in the action, can approach dungeons in your own order at your own pace with little bogging you down.
>OoT: constant cutscenes, constant exposition dumps, game treats you like a retard with tutorial every two minutes

>ALttP: combat is fast-paced and challenging with a huge variety of enemies. Spacing and positioning are important
>OoT: Z-targeting removes any challenge of spacing and positioning and makes the combat just a glorified rhythm game. Every combat encounter just involves circling around the enemy, waiting for them to be open to attack, and repeat. It's just a boring, drawn-out slog

>ALttP: dungeons are complex and labyrinthine and require you to create a mental map and learn how rooms are connected
>OoT: dungeons are largely linear on-rails where you just solve the """puzzle""" by entering first person and looking around the room or jumping on some platforms

>ALttP: bosses are challenging and memorable requiring unique methods to dispatch them that you must figure out
>OoT: booses are pushovers that are just a glorified tutorial for the item you conveniently just found in that dungeon

>>11902529 (OP)
>A link to the past is just raw, unfiltered gameplay
the mechanics of this game suck dick, alttp is more of a puzze game

and it's not even a particularly good puzzle games people just feel extremely rewarded by solving something and then hearing that wow you are so smart sound

>>11902690
...what? ALTTP is clearly combat-focused. It's pretty light on puzzles, dungeons are mostly combat gauntlets with light puzzle solving and exploration.

>>11902694
the combat is just filler or do you truly believe so many girls love this game because it's combat focused
who plays this game for the combat? do you?

>>11902687
>can approach dungeons in your own order at your own pace
Can you though? Doesn't it imply to just a few of them?

>>11902701
Ah, so just a stupid troll. Carry on retard.

>>11902529 (OP)
I’m not gonna contrarianfag enough to say it’s a bad game at all but this review is 100% nostalgia bait

>The story is great, even epic, but kept to a minimum. There is a manual and an introduction video, the rest is left to your imagination.

The opening is kino…but that’s kinda it? A manual isn’t a substitute for a story. Inb4 “good for its time” — LA had 10x the better story on a game boy no less.

>The world is fucking gigantic. You got 2 entire worlds filled to the brim with stuff and 12 fucking dungeons.

Overworld is the best part for sure but I wish there were more towns/outposts/etc. even Zelda II did this better.

Dungeons are by far the weakest part of this game and it’s the only Zelda I’d say there’s too many. Skull Woods and Ice Palace are the only memorable ones (and maybe the final gimmick of Thieves’ town) otherwise they’re all kinda generic, don’t make good use of previous items, and it really doesn’t help that the music is the same for every one.

Music is good.

Overall it’s great but every Zelda after it is better (minus four swords and other weird spin off slop).

>>11902707
hurr durr climb a wall of dicks faggot

>>11902642
The closest IRL gay analogue to Link would be a twink. But twinks aren't really "pretty" or "androgynous," they're "boyish." They look and dress unambiguously male, just underdeveloped. You don't really see them with very long hair, or tunic-skirts. Gay guys just don't really like femininity. This is particularly true among nerds. Most gay nerds seem to like their men muscular, chubby, or somewhere in-between, and pretty much always quite outwardly masculine. On the other hand, Links androgyny is very much so in line with what fujoshi are into. Although fujos would probably make him a bit wider eyed and more sparkly.

>>11902718
>I wish there were more towns/outposts/etc
>Dungeons are by far the weakest part
These might be the reasons why LTTP feels like an arcade game instead of an adventure to me.

I'm not a big fan of OoT's dungeons either, but they had character, and belonged in the world.

>>11902685
Combat and art style took a massive hit

>>11902739
Do you have a PhD in faggotry?

How do you know all this stuff?

>>11902759
There are gay people on this website, anon...

>>11902760
What makes you think link is not a twink?

How are you so sure he is androgynous? I'm still confused

>>11902529 (OP)
>The world is fucking gigantic.
i thought so most of my life but i replayed it for the first time in many years a while back and i was amazed how small it felt. its hard for me to tell how much i would like this game nowadays if i never played it as a kid. its a great game but theres just something about the original. those are the only 2 games in this series i play. never liked ocarina and that was it for me

>>11902749
The complete opposite actually

>>11902778
LTTP overworld is small but very dense with secrets and things to do.

I do probably like Zelda 1 overworld better, I think they nailed that, but in all other aspects LTTP is better

>>11902529 (OP)
I genuinely like the not-retro sequel better for two reasons:
1. controls like butter
2. better incentives exploration by only marking gates between worlds on the map AFTER you've found them

I love ALttP but marking every objective on the map holds it back. And you'd think with the implementation of a way to test breakable walls with your sword, they would've had the balls to put more unmarked secrets in there.

>>11902776
I kind of feel like I've already outlined this. He has the underdeveloped look of a twink, but takes a few steps into outright femininity with the long, girly hair and attire that I don't think anyone would describe as "masculine." He looks only slightly less feminine than the very female-coded princess from Magical Pop'n. Frankly, as a gay, they're pretty much equally sexually unappealing.

>>11902829
I just don't really see OOT Link as that feminine. He has significantly shorter hair than breath of the wild Link, who is indeed a little feminine. And a tunic... well, I wouldn't wear it, but I wouldn't start a fight with someone because he does. He still wears pants.

But it makes sense that a homo has far harsher requirements for masculinity lmao.

>>11902859
I'm not sure if tunic + skin tight leggings is more or less masculine than tunic + bottomless. But, either way, the margins are quite slim...

>>11902529 (OP)
Every other top down Zelda except 1 is better than alttp. Ocarina did everything alttp did but better. Being first doesn't mean shit when you're worse at it.

>>11903003
ALTTP shits all over OoT. see >>11902687

>>11902889
>skin tight leggings
They're long john underwear, that's why there's both sleeves and leggings. Koizumi confirmed this in Iwata Asks for OoT 3D.

>>11902776
If Link was a fag, then all the girls' gaydar would ve going off and they'd be treating him completely differently. Instead, they all have a lady boner for him.

>>11902529 (OP)
OoT > LttP

Cope and seethe

>>11903581
see
>>11902687

LA is better

>>11902529 (OP)
>Ocarina of time refined it
ocarina is a primitive foray into the 3d medium, and its extremely unrefined. lets not be dishonest.

>>11902687
based write up. oot zealots unable to refute anything, and seething in shambles.

>>11902584
This is actually the best cover

>>11903526
Nah, you are retarded

>>11903581
Correct

>>11902529 (OP)
Both games are 10/10. They are the best Zelda games.

>>11902590
>better graphics
>better music
>better story
>bigger world
>longer to beat
>inferior to the NES version
got any more of that nostalgia ?

>>11905936
The only thing I am retarded in is being stupid, so you are not wrong.

>>11903581
Based

>>11902616
Nigga I like 2d zelda more than 3d zelda but alttp link going bottomless is gay as fuck

>>11902646
>another "OoT is a movie game" kid
Where do they come from?

>>11909814
>going bottomless is gay as fuck
How is that gay? Going commando has literally never been associated with faggotry. Quite the opposite. Only the chadest of chads free ball it.

>>11911746
Shiggy specifically went out of his way to invent movie games, this isn't a debatable opinion to have.

>>11911787
Retard doesn't know Miyamoto was talking about the camera movements

>>11902616
same

>>11911792
Retard doesn't understand what attaching movies to the character means

>>11902687
tldr

>>11912274
It's an issue with the translation.

>>11902623
>It did more for the franchise
>caring about a game for anything but the game itself
lmao I don't give a fuck if pong is the granddaddy of games, I'm not going to pretend it's better than fucking Super Metroid or something. Same for this pile of bland crap

>>11902529 (OP)
>ALttP
>10/10
Today I will remind them:
>faggy pink hair Link
>bouncy house combat
>sword sucks ass
>buck tooth skulls
>8 rocks
>retarded art style in general, also a hot bed for misinterpreted sprites
>can only use one item at a time
>dark world (aka pee and poop world) sucks ass
>light world is tiny and mostly barren
>every single dungeon is just multiple square rooms of different colors

>>11902529 (OP)
One of the peak moments in gaming is approaching the master sword. Beams of light poking through the trees, smoke in the air, squirrels and shit crossing the path as you walk up. You pull the sword and the smoke is dispelled from the forest and then you triumphantly head to the castle and smash some knights with your new beams and such.

>>11902529 (OP)
If it's so DAMN good, why is there no co-op? Neither built-in nor hacked in, which is especially strange given that it's been decompiled and when it'd be so easy to do as a single-screen affair. There's only "shared progression" garbage out there. What a crock of shit.

>>11915609
8 rocks?

>>11916364
>co-op
That'll be the cost of another console, controller and cartridge per player. TYVM.