Thread 11908670

Is it considered cheating if you drop a game on emulator and come back to the spot you left off? What's the ethical stance of "fake" passwords and saves?

Finally beat Ninja Gaiden 2 without save states or rewind and it was smooth sailing up until the final boss who made me rage quit cause it sent me back to the beginning of the level. But when I booted up the game again where I left off, I realized the final boss keeps the last phase you fought on rematches, so I kept at it until I won. I kinda wish the game just had passwords or something cause it made the win feel kinda fake.

>>11908670 (OP)
>Is it considered cheating
It's a single player game, who the fuck cares?

>>11908741
the legend himself Motherfuck Mike Matei would take issue with it

>>11908670 (OP)
It's simple, anon: if the question arises at all, it IS cheating. Always.

>>11908670 (OP)
It's simple, anon: if the question is ever, "Am I trying to earn the approval of losers who I'll never meet" then it's time to log the fuck off. I've beaten Ninja Gaiden 2 twice in one sitting, trust me, prove I didn't, prove anyone who tells you any of their "feats" on here didn't

>>11908670 (OP)
Yes. You're also committing doping as you've played far more games than you did when this was released which is cheating according to the WWVGF ethics code. You didn't beat, nor really play the game.

>>11908670 (OP)
>But when I booted up the game again where I left off,
I don't get it, did you use a save state to go back to the boss?
If you're not using it as a sort of "rewind" feature and just use a save to come back to where you left the game off, then it's not different than leaving a console on overnight to pick up again the next day, and it's technically not cheating imo. There was that one japanese guy who had (has?) a Super Famicom on for like 2 decades so as to not lose his Umihara Kawase hi score. (Not sure how the fucker avoided power cutoffs for 2 decades)
If you load up a save state to go back to the final boss after getting a game over when the game sends you back to the beginning, then yes, it's cheating. Gotta do it all over.

>>11908670 (OP)
Resume savestates are fine as long as you don't abuse them. Everyone pretends like it's like "leaving the console on" but in reality nobody would leave the console on 24/7, they'd only do it occasionally, and would account for your mom noticing and turning it off or power failures? Also if you start using resume savestates for several games at once then yeah it's definitely out of the original boundaries.

>>11908826
>prove a negative
wow you're fuckin retarded huh

>>11908808
good thing no one knows who that is

>>11908921
Isn't it the guy who posted a picture of another man's penis claiming it was his, all whipe being aware that underage people were following his account?

As a soon to be 40-year-old depressed man, I don't have the will to beat old games in one sitting anymore. I will save my progress (but I won't exploit saves). The other day I beat SoR 1, one stage a day, with saves.

>>11908943
I'm also almost 40 and I use the PSP's suspended mode function, mostly play while on the shitter.
Sometimes I will play for a long time and I forget I'm sitting on the toilet for hours.
Also don't feel bad for being depressed, it's not your age, it's the general world. Young people are having it rough too.

>>11908670 (OP)
In my opinion, anything other than original software on original hardware is technically cheating, though using new technology like save states to bridge old hardware limitations like lack of a native save function is acceptable. But as >>11908741 said who actually gives a shit, if it prevents you from enjoying it then it's not worth adhering to.

>>11908670 (OP)
Did you enjoy playing it regardless? Cause that's the only thing that really matters. If you liked it enough, play it again sometime. You've likely picked up enough from the first run that another run to the end without 'fake' passwords or saves

>>11908950
cope. depression is just a fancy word for "gave up". be a fucking man and make something of your life

>>11908826
t. cheater

Just pretend that you are leaving the console on

>>11908670 (OP)
>How do you do fellow Humans?

Savescumming is the issue, not savestates. But at the end of the day, YOU know whether or not you cheated. Asking about it here just proves that you like dick.

>>11908670 (OP)
what

>>11909604
If they would just remove the paragraph spacing and keep the posts shorter they would be a lot more believable

Did you do anything that you couldn't do on original hardware? If not then no. People can leave consoles on overnight.

>>11908670 (OP)
I'd say what you did is cheating, but who gives a shit? Play singleplayer games the way you like. Cheating is only bad in multiplayer.

>>11909664
You wouldn't leave the console on 24/7, you'd only do it occasionally. You wouldn't do it for several games at the same time. Occasionally your mom would find out, turn off the console, and you'd get a scolding, so realistcly to account for that you should delete your resume savestate once in a while and put a blanket over your device to pretend that you're hiding the fact that it's still on from your mom. At least once a year you should also delete the resume savestate to account for power failures.

Otherwise you didn't beat the game.

>>11908670 (OP)
Who
fucking
cares?

What is LITERALLY wrong with you that you can't just decide how to play video games yourself. Like how on earth could this possibly matter? This is a rhetorical question, don't even fucking reply to me, I'm close this yet another utterly fucking braindead retard zoomer thread.

YOU
DON'T
NEED
PERMISSION
TO
PLAY
VIDEO
GAMES

I've beaten all Ninja Gaidens with savestates
Sue me

I've beaten many games like Battletoads and Gradius 3 arcade and Ghosts N Goblins arcade legitimately so that earns me the right to use savestates on any game I want.

>>11908826
I've personally sucked off Ryu Hayabusa. It was overall a good experience, but I feel that poor Ryu didn't get much training for this, probably busy spinning around or getting flocked by birds. Still, I consider it an integral part of the Ninja Gayden experience.

If you didn't suck him off, you didn't beat the game.

>>11908808
Sorry, the only legend for me is Scott the Woz.

>>11908670 (OP)
>caring about how other people play single player games
Do whatever the fuck you want.

>>11911026
What if I'm Batman? Then I could afford to have multiple consoles turned on 24/7 and would have no parents to scold me. You can't prove I'm not Batman.

>>11912447
>and would have no parents to scold me

>>11908670 (OP)
Back in the day, people would just pause their game and leave the console on when they had to leave, or even just leave it on overnight. As long as you don't refresh back to the savestate once you die, it's no different from said method of just leaving the console running.
That said, do whatever the fuck you want, unless you're playing for a competition or other bragging rights, then yeah, don't use rewind or savestatescumming or whatever.

I'm about to fucking save state because holy shit who thought ANY of act 6 in the first game was fun

>>11914571
Act 6 itself is pretty fun, dying to the boss and starting it from the very beginning is what sucks

>>11911842
Okay but what if you dropped the blowjob and then came back where you left off. Would that be an ethical blowjob?

Yes.

If you aren't wrapping your console in tin foil and a heating blanket in a race against time before it overheats and destroys itself then are you really playing?

>>11908670 (OP)
I do this all the time but only where I would be able to save anyway. So I can skip the annoying passwords and start screens

>>11914638
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>>11914642
Okay anon that is not enough, I need the rest of the story.

>>11914610
Yeah? As long as he's fine with it, anyway.

Why are ethics even a question here? The purpose of the blowjob is enjoying ourselves, not appeasing some invisible jury.

>>11908670 (OP)
It's cheating and I'm personally against it because I feel like it takes away from the experience... but if it doesn't for you, and you disclose that you cheated when discussing the particular title, I don't see any issues, especially since its single player and our fun will always be the most important aspect about our playing experience, I just feel that for me the challenge adds to the fun of it.

>>11916943
I personally see it less as challenge and more as commitment.
I don't know if I consider it "cheating" if you play, say, a 1 hour game in short bursts of 10/20 mins, maybe less. As long as you play by the game's rules of starting over if the game doesn't have infinite continues, it's fair.
Not using save/sleep mode to resume later doesn't make the game harder, but it requires more commitment since you will have to play it all in one sitting. But again, there's the fact you can also pause a fame and leave it for hours on real hard too.

Nah, I save when I want. Like when some fucker puts the save point before a cutscene/scripted sequence.

Though I tend to play arcade-style games on 1CC without save states since they stop being fun when you're just using endless continues/loads..

>>11912470
Fucking kek

As always, /vr/ fumbles all over itself trying to answer this question without any recognition of the fact that there are many, MANY different degrees of cheating and with little recognition that the question of whether such-and-such constitutes cheating is 100% independent from the question of whether any particular act of cheating is bad.