>Game so bad people have to headcanon the game as being a hallucination for it to make sense
>Thread so bad OP had to make a situation in its head for it to make sense.
>>11911512
>Anon has never heard of the Squall is Dead theory
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:49:52 PM
No.11911871
>>11912009
>>11914096
>>11911519
What will happen when Quistis meets Simon Belmont?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:23:15 PM
No.11912000
>>11912697
>>11911504 (OP)
What will happen when past Ultimecia meets future Rinoa?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:25:07 PM
No.11912009
>>11912071
>>11911871
She eats him and gets holy water blue magic.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:27:13 PM
No.11912015
>>11923186
>>11911519
Its annoying because I don't like the theory... but considering the cutscene that kicked the theory off it does make sense. Still, its not the case, but if they ever did a remake I'm almost sure they'd account for it.
>>11911504 (OP)
Ff8 is not about the plot (which is shit) or the characters (which is shit outside squall rinoa seifer). It's about the sandbox. The game breaking. The playing with GFs your first playthrough and thinking game is mediocre then trying it with full junctions and blue magic and having fun and then doing a full triple triad only run and having a fucking blast.
Top 3 sandbox games all time. They should make a mod to fix triple triad rules in all regions and you're set.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:44:27 PM
No.11912071
>>11912009
I was expecting some BDSM plays, not vore.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:53:09 PM
No.11912096
>>11912194
>>11911504 (OP)
Square was so lucky they struck gold with seven because if this was the first Final Fantasy on PSX itβd be a dead franchise today.
>>11912018
Breaking 7 with materia combos was even better.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:30:03 PM
No.11912194
>>11912221
>>11912096
True but good materia combos only came way late in the game (ff7's biggest mistake but I guess that's the only way you don't easily break early to mid game with insane combos)
The materia combos system was so beautiful wish they did more with that or another game adopted it with more richer options.
>>11912018
This. VIII gives you so many options and lets you play the game however you want. You can moderate the amount of random battles as early as disk 1. You don't have to give a fuck about level grinding, ever. You don't need to summon GFs even once if you don't want to. You don't need to spam the draw command.
And if you ask me the triple triad run is the way to go. I get enc-none as soon as possible, turn off all random battles halfway through disk 1, stay low level and up my stats by modding cards into items and items into magic. There's still plenty of fixed encounters so combat is still relevant but it takes all the monotony out of it.
And if you're autistic enough you *can* fix the triple triad rules through spreading and abolishing, its just more trouble than it's worth most of the time. I finished the Qiueen of Cards quest in my most recent playthrough and I didn't even really try manipulating the rules, just got lucky enough to abolish random in Dollet. As long as you don't spread it you can live with it being the default in a couple places. I usually don't bother completing the queen's quest even during card-based playthroughs because it's not even necessary. You can still break the game easily enough without the ones she gives you.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:38:31 PM
No.11912221
>>11912194
Yeah, I think materia was probably the best jrpg magic system they came up with.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:39:12 PM
No.11912371
I've said it before and I'll say it again. VIII is one amazing game. I hated it on release, played it again when the remaster came out for some nostalgia and I keep learning new ways to play it. It just keeps getting better the more I play it, 500 hrs in and I want to replay it again with even different strats. That's fucking amazing.
The story has asspulls and conveniences galore and I don't care. The chicks are hot, I want quistis or matron to sit on my face. I like the French countryside aesthetics, the gothic european designs, the music, and how you can get fucking rekt by certain random encounters at any level when you get complacent with the easy ones. I just wish there were a few more towns.
I think it's as good as VII, for different reasons.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:29:39 PM
No.11912474
>>11912560
>>11912207
>I usually don't bother completing the queen's quest even during card-based playthroughs because it's not even necessary.
It's strange that the other card sidequest (Card Club) utterly renders the Card Queen moot, considering Club Diamond holds every unique card in the game. And it's far less tedious.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:34:18 PM
No.11912481
>>11932081
>>11911504 (OP)
quistis + rinoa = quinoa
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:43:25 PM
No.11912495
>>11912509
>>11912207
But all that shit is so fucking boring.
Especially since the level scaling makes it so it doesn't really matter what you do.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:46:00 PM
No.11912502
>>11911512
/thread
FF8 living rent free in people's heads for 25 years and counting
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:50:55 PM
No.11912509
>>11912495
I bitched about the level scaling for years.
I played a "fight all encounters unless farming a specific mug or drop" last time and the level scaling actually works and makes sense. There are so many different ways to overcome the scaling. Enemies get new draws and even abilities and attack patterns at certain levels which keeps things interesting and backtracking doesn't mean running into lvl 5 enemies over and over like every other game. The only downside is that it can be exploited for low level runs, but I've done plenty of those and they aren't very fun esp if you know the story already.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:53:28 PM
No.11912512
>>11912540
>>11912018
You forgot the weaponized nostalgic coziness of the balamb garden theme. You can smell the empty afterschool hallways on that track. Shit hits millennial brains like white lightning.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:55:23 PM
No.11912514
>>11912535
>there's so many ways to play!
*spams limit breaks*
>so many builds!
*junctions strongest magic to STR*
>so many summons!
*only casts cerberus because the rest get way too boring way too fast*
>so many magics!
*uses only meltdown, the other spells are underpowered as hell and using them makes his party weaker*
>so many commands!
*keeps spamming limit breaks and normal attacks*
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:04:10 PM
No.11912535
>>11912536
>>11912514
Literally every command is useful, although Mad Rush and Darkside are technically just flavorful attacks. Also how the fuck could you forget Aura.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:05:59 PM
No.11912536
>>11912541
>>11912535
True, but that's included in the *spams limit breaks* point
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:09:20 PM
No.11912540
>>11911504 (OP)
Regarding level scaling, it never occurred to me, I just played the game as any other.
>>11912512
Well said lol
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:09:21 PM
No.11912541
>>11912543
>>11912536
Renzokouken and Duel make the game more engaging and tense.
Just don't use the cheat ones like degenerator and the end. Also, summoning unless required to in a FF game is for literal children.
Yes, you have to handicap yourself a little to make the game balanced and fun just like every other jrpg, boo-hoo.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:10:27 PM
No.11912542
>>11911504 (OP)
"Headcanon" is something dumb kids say because they're inarticulate.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:10:58 PM
No.11912543
>>11916486
>>11912541
>Renzokouken and Duel make the game more engaging and tense.
Anon, Duel can one shot Omega. Degenerator is worthless outside of random battles, and The End is unreliable.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:14:15 PM
No.11912548
>>11912553
>>11911504 (OP)
>IQ is so low you have to rage about a straightforward story to internet strangers 30 years later
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:16:52 PM
No.11912553
>>11912548
>Calls it a straightforward story
>Probably believes in R=U
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:22:54 PM
No.11912560
>>11912590
>>11912593
>>11912474
They didn't want people getting locked out of important stuff in disk 4 which is why you're able to go back to the Ragnarok and access the world map again. But IIRC there was some technical reason why they couldn't have all the towns still available as well. So since you wouldn't be able to complete the QOC quest without town access they gave her cards to the card club as a way of not locking you out of those, either. I guess they figured if you finished the CC quest and were at the endgame anyway they didn't need to gatekeep stuff so hard. VIII is a pretty generous game. They wanted you to have most of this stuff.
And yeah, it kind of renders the whole sidequest redundant but if you do the queen's quest you gain access to all those cards much sooner so it's not completely pointless. Some of the rare cards will give you very OP shit so getting them sooner rather than later is very beneficial if you're trying to break the game. Also, the queen can be useful if you want to change trading rules in a region (although like the rule changes, that's a double edged sword because you can end up with direct, which fucking sucks).
I never hated the idea of the Queen of cards quest. It's a nice bit of worldbuilding and almost kind of fun, it just coexists badly with the way the card game rules work. Trying to lose a specific card with the random rule in place just doesn't work, and getting rid of the random rule in all the places she could possibly go is so tedious most people won't bother. I think they knew that but figured since she's not the only source of those cards they could leave it as it was let and make it an optional thing for the most turbo of autists. I distinctly remember arguing with myself about why I bothered doing it. But I had to do it once because otherwise I'd have beaten the game but not *completed* the game. You guys know what I mean
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:32:37 PM
No.11912590
>>11912560
>But IIRC there was some technical reason why they couldn't have all the towns still available as well.
Lack of space due to the ending cutscene
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:35:00 PM
No.11912593
>>11912620
>>11912560
True, Kiros card gives you Auto-Haste on everyone in like Disc 2 which is insane.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:51:44 PM
No.11912620
>>11912686
>>11912593
You know what's really crazy? I get the Kiros card on disc 2 and still don't mod it until the endgame anyway because I like to wait until I have enough GF's to give everyone their "final" setup and only then start using ability items. If I gave 3 people auto-haste in disk 2 I'd just have to slap it on whatever GFs I had at the time and I'm not willing to do that.
Like I said, autism.
>return damage
>Junction best magic to HP
>Don't junction anything to vitality
>Let the enemy kill itself
God i love FF8
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:12:38 PM
No.11912649
>>11912716
>>11912645
>enemy is undead
game over
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:21:06 PM
No.11912662
>>11912668
>>11912670
>>11911504 (OP)
FFVIII is good though
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:24:02 PM
No.11912668
>>11912662
>first jrpg with a realistic humanoid protagonist
Revolutionary even
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:26:18 PM
No.11912670
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:32:12 PM
No.11912679
>>11912721
>>11929028
>>11912018
>>11912207
Well is it an RPG or a fucking card game then? If the most optimal way to play the game is to spend hours on Triple Triad then it's shit. The music and visuals are also tepid and vomit-inducingly bland.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:35:02 PM
No.11912686
>>11912620
Makes sense. I find Pandemona/Tonberry/Cactuar the best ability targets since they have the only three Initiatives in the game.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:42:08 PM
No.11912697
>>11912000
Argue who have big cup size.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:54:38 PM
No.11912716
>>11912645
>>11912649
>Junction 100 Deaths to status attack
>1HKO 99% of enemies
>get hit with confuse
>1HKO 100% of allies
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:57:22 PM
No.11912721
>>11914110
>>11912679
It's an RPG where you have the OPTION to replace hours of endless grinding for levels with playing the card game instead. Do it how you want.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:29:56 PM
No.11914096
>>11911871
Quistis is actually Squall's mother. The don't show it, but before they went into the cave to fight Ifrit, Squall did a Lionheart on Quistis pussy flaps with his cock
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:35:43 PM
No.11914110
>>11914118
>>11915108
>>11912721
>OPTION to replace hours of endless grinding for levels with playing the card game instead
Great design to be honest
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:38:06 PM
No.11914118
>>11914176
>>11914487
>>11914110
except that you'll spend a similar amount of hours doing Y instead of X. It's no shortcut
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:30:43 PM
No.11914176
>>11914118
Yep. It's a choice.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:47:59 PM
No.11914210
>>11916797
>ff9
>disc 1
>have all the summons
>need 10x your mp limit to summon them
>disc 2
>lose all your summons
>just equip accessories to relearn them
>disc 3
>finally able to stop using garnet because she's shit
>also becomes an unusable cripple on this disc
>completely forget about summons unless you're a chad eiko user
>ff6
>you can now equip espers to learn magic
>include a detailed tutorial explaining this
>press up in the magic menu to summon your equipped esper
>don't bother mentioning that in the game
>limit breaks are also a thing
>don't mention that either
>ff7
>get chocobo summon materia
>try it
>mediocre.jpg
>just battle normally
>pick up more summon materia
>don't even bother trying it
>get to the end game
>use hades on ruby weapon
>use knights of the round on emerald
>no idea what the other 17 summons do
>ff8
>new game
>here is your gf
>name your gf
>here is how you equip your gf
>in battle you can summon your gf
>your first job is to get another gf
>remember to equip your new gf
>you will get more gf
>we all grew up in an orphanage
>Irvine only remembered because he had no gf
>>11911504 (OP)
Thinking of replaying the game, but with some restrictions to make it less braindead. Haven't played it in almost 20 years.
Biggest mistake I made the first time through was raising my stats too high with magic junction, and spending too much time drawing magics to 100. And since I was focused on stats, I'd almost never use magic.
Also, does the game become easier or harder on low-level runs? I know the enemies scale with your level, but not quite sure if they scale slower or faster than you.
It really fucking sucks how games like ff8 or ff10 require so much planning to make them moderately challenging to play. This gets especially bad in ff10, when you have to restrict yourself from abusing broken mechanics, and you have to know what your stats should be to make each Arena or Dark Aeon fight just the right level of challenge.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:12:10 PM
No.11914271
>>11914327
>>11914214
>It really fucking sucks how games like ff8 or ff10 require so much planning to make them moderately challenging to play
Just run through the games instead of grinding. Focus on completing the game as fast as possible, if that keeps you away from optimizing all the challenge away.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:31:10 PM
No.11914321
>>11914214
I did a very half-assed low level run years ago which went pretty well until I reached Bahamut who is fixed level and completely wrecked me.
I tried again a few years later with more preparation and it went so much better it didn't even feel like the same fight.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:32:43 PM
No.11914327
>>11914508
>>11914516
>>11914271
Running away from every encounter in ff10 eventually leaves you underpowered to the point where you have to abuse mix, items or summons to beat the bosses. So still, you have to tiptoe around the fine line of getting just enough power to keep the fights doable but not too annoying.
This is why I rarely ever play turn based games anymore. Too much planning needed to keep them fun.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:36:03 PM
No.11914487
>>11914118
>It's no shortcut
Who said it was? It's an alternative way to acquire items and magic, not a speedrunning strategy. It's better to be able to spend a few hours doing x and a few hours doing y at your discretion than just be forced to do x and nothing else.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:53:35 PM
No.11914508
>>11914516
>>11914812
>>11914214
>>11914327
>I did the equivalent of grinding to level 99 before the first dungeon and the game was too easy after that
>then I didn't level up at all ever and the game got too hard
Have you considered the issue isn't that the games are badly balanced but you just seem determined to play them in the most unsatisfactory way possible. Stop going to extremes, progress normally, and you'll have a better time.
And honestly these games were intended to be more immersive experiences than brutal challenges anyway. I wouldn't go so far as to call them braindead but they're supposed to be manageable if you just put in the time and learn proper strategy. If you want to get your shit pushed in on a regular basis there's always Wizardry or other such games. FF is not a difficult series
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 7:58:58 PM
No.11914516
>>11914665
>>11914813
>>11914327
>Running away from every encounter
For fuck's sake, how about you don't do that?
>>11914508
>seem determined to play them in the most unsatisfactory way possible.
Yeah this.
Sometimes I can't believe the mind of some individuals here.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:11:00 PM
No.11914665
>>11914516
>individuals
Law enforcement, or just a good goy by choice?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:50:26 PM
No.11914812
>>11915271
>>11921981
>>11914508
Which part of "haven't played it in almost 20 years" did you speedread through? I wonder how intelligently you approached vidya when you were in your early teens. Oh right, you probably still are. At least mentally.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:51:32 PM
No.11914813
>>11914830
>>11914516
You said "just run through the games" yourself lmao and I took it literally.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:00:59 PM
No.11914830
>>11914813
To say it accurately, focus on the main story. No unnecessary battles, side content, grinding, or equipment/material gathering.
You'll find FF 10 to be fairly well balanced for that.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:42:54 PM
No.11914925
>>11915282
>>11915467
>>11914214
Just do what I did and
>Junction best magic to Squall's HP
>enter "critical HP" during battle
RENZOKUKEN FOREVER
It's still risky; he's close to dying, you know? Very engaging, though.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:02:58 AM
No.11915108
>>11916032
>>11914110
you don't have to do hours of endless grinding even if you ignore playing the card game, you can just refine the items and cards you get as drops into magic instead
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:30:24 AM
No.11915271
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:38:49 AM
No.11915282
>>11915327
>>11914925
>auto-renzokuken
Disgusting, although at least it's not auto-Duel.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:11:16 AM
No.11915327
>>11915398
>>11915713
>>11915282
>auto
I don't know what you mean by that. I've only ever played the PS1 release of FFVIII, and "auto-renzokuken" was never such an option; I always pressed R1 on time... so I assume you're referring to some sort of "mod."
If you are, to be fair, this webm was made by a guy who, while using a PC mod version, wanted to show everyone all of Squall's Renzokuken attacks. He made several webms many years ago.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:42:39 AM
No.11915398
>>11915412
>>11915327
There are options for limits on the player status screens. The "auto" option randomly does R1 for you during renzokuken. The other option for Squall turns off the trigger indicator altogether so you have to do it as he strikes which is probably what's used here.
Zell has an auto option too, and Rinoa has all the Angelo abilities to learn. None of the others have anything meaningful.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:51:50 AM
No.11915412
>>11915428
>>11915398
There's a lot of "auto" in FF8 I guess I'm forgetting... (from almost 30 years ago)
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 3:02:58 AM
No.11915428
>>11915573
>>11915412
I used to go through each attribute, now I always do auto-Def and junction status / elementals if need be. Auto limit breaks is cheating imo and takes out the fun of using them.
I use a lot of the transfer all in the magic screen, sometimes I trade individual ones. I keep 3 "full sets" of magic and swap them around with a 4th out-of-party character that holds backup magic I'll probably never need.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 3:31:15 AM
No.11915467
>>11915594
>>11916323
>>11914925
Spamming limits is no less tedious than spamming summons if you ask me. When I replay it now I skip every gunblade upgrade after the second one and only get the lionheart at the very end. That way I can kill 30 tonberries without having to watch that fucking blasting zone cinematic 2 dozen times.
Do what I did and
>Junction best magic to Squall's STR
>equip STR +40 % and STR +60%
>junction 100 deaths or 100 confuses or 100 pains to Status attack
>do limit break-tier damage with normal attacks and either kill or incapacitate most regular enemies with one hit
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 4:20:32 AM
No.11915573
>>11915428
>auto-Def
Fucking why. Nothing in this game hits hard enough to justify it. Just do auto-Atk and slaughter everything before it moves.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 4:29:16 AM
No.11915594
>>11915689
>>11915467
>When I replay it now I skip every gunblade upgrade after the second one and only get the lionheart at the very end. That way I can kill 30 tonberries without having to watch that fucking blasting zone cinematic 2 dozen times.
Nice roleplay, but that doesn't work, secondary-kun.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:12:19 AM
No.11915689
>>11915740
>>11915741
>>11915594
Uh...yes it does? Squall's limit break finishers happen at random but the possible number of finishing moves is determined by what gunblade upgrade level you've achieved. If you never upgrade your weapon past the first upgrades there's only two possible finishing moves. his is not a theory, I've done it in multiple playthroughs now, in the original version and remaster. This is 1000% how it works.
Where did yo think they came from?. Squall's finishers are obviously gatekept because you don't see the more powerful ones until later in the game. You will never see the lionheart finisher without getting the lionheart upgrade. And there's no item or magazine for Squall's finishers. The upgrades each unlock a new one. I thought this was common knowledge.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:28:16 AM
No.11915713
>>11915752
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:41:25 AM
No.11915740
>>11915689
I misread and thought you were under the delusion that upgrading directly to Lionheart "skips" all the other limit breaks.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:43:00 AM
No.11915741
>>11915689
Most kids equate FF8's "Limit Break" to FF7's limit break function:
>max out my bar = unleash a character-specific limit
They don't know, eg Squall, that the limit breaks are tied hidden "Crisis Level"
>Critical HP status "how close am I to dying?"
>The Limit Break Renzokuken strikes any enemy 4-8 times (+CRIT if you press his gun's trigger at the right time). The # of strikes is based on "Crisis Level." Closer to death = more strikes.
>It strikes (most) Bosses variable amounts, but with completely unique animations, and it will strike that Boss exactly the same amount with 100% consistency.
...and that once his Renzokuken Limit Break is over, there's a chance to perform a final "Finisher."
>Closer to death = higher chance of performing a Finisher
>Better timing of CRITS = higher chance of performing Finisher
>Base-Level gunblade equipped = Rough Divide (single strike + single enemy)
>Mid-Level gunblade equipped = Rough Divide, Fated Circle (single strike + all enemies)
>High-Level gunblade equipped = Rough Divide, Fated Circle, Blasting Zone (single + all enemies)
>Lionheart gunblade equipped = Rough Divide, Fated Circle, Blasting Zone, Lionheart (17 strikes + single enemy)
Each blade can be further upgraded (except Lionheart) by investing from the 6-shot revolver handgun to the automatic pistol.
Limit Break occur only when crisis level standards are met (be near death).
Higher crisis level = better finisher.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:52:31 AM
No.11915752
>>11916790
>>11915713
Squall hits harder the lower his life.
>webm related: 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:58:57 AM
No.11915759
>>11916796
I genuinely enjoyed "Final Fantasy: Dissidia" and how they included basically every character's limit breaks into their regular combat moves.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:32:38 AM
No.11915807
>>11914214
If you GF spam the game it fuckin yeets you so hard in mid disc 3. There was a time where the biggest complaint about 8 was the bs difficulty spike during the second half of the game. If you want hard there you go
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 6:41:04 AM
No.11915820
>>11916416
>Game can be incredibly easy or very difficult based on how you play it
>Dosn't tell you jack shit, you figure it out yourself
Hell yeah. I'm about to play it right now.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 7:40:48 AM
No.11915923
I don't remember what I even did in FF8 but it clicked for me almost immediately. I just took magic stuck it in my shit. The weirdest part was I never played a single game of Triple Triad. But then I got a capture ability and went around catching monsters to refine them. I grinder a lot near the end in spots with ultima but I could have just not done that so I dont fault the game.
I also liked the plot for some reason. The whole survivor's of a previous world war with witches was cool.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 9:01:18 AM
No.11916032
>>11915108
>refine the items and cards you get as drops into magic
That's the best option IMO, for a fast and convenient playthrough.
Even those random draw points matter more when you don't just obsessively grind everything.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:11:19 AM
No.11916190
>>11916223
Renzokuken is such a retarded name. It literally means "multiple swords in a row". Makes sense why they didn't bother translating it.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:28:22 AM
No.11916212
>>11916682
Have you guys noticed how FF8 battle music recycles a lot of motives from FF4? Regular battle has the Baron/Red Wings descending motif and the boss battle is really similar to Zeromus battle theme. I have never played past the ball scene so there might be more.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:33:35 AM
No.11916223
>>11916247
>>11916190
>other languages work differently from English, how stupid!
No, you are the retard.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:54:19 AM
No.11916247
>>11916223
Since you don't know japenis, kindly shut the hell up
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:07:31 PM
No.11916323
>>11915467
>That way I can kill 30 tonberries without having to watch that fucking blasting zone cinematic 2 dozen times.
AP ammo, the berries even drop chefs knives that can be ammo refined into more AP ammo
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:03:34 PM
No.11916416
>>11915820
>>Dosn't tell you jack shit, you figure it out yourself
It does though, the game has constant tutorials people usually skip for some reason. And there's no way to make it "very difficult" for yourself unless it's your first jarpig
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:51:21 PM
No.11916486
>>11912543
>Anon, Duel can one shot Omega.
Duel CAN one shot anything, but I doubt you could pull it off.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 4:41:13 PM
No.11916682
>>11916212
>have never played past the ball scene so there might be more.
Not FF4 but Edea's theme has a motif from FF7. Maybe because her design ess saved from leftover FF7 designs. Also the idea of a blade with a chain on its hilt comes from unused buster sword designs too and of course was used again for Keyblades
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:40:58 PM
No.11916771
>>11916797
FF8 is the jock's JRPG
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:49:00 PM
No.11916790
>>11917874
>>11915752
This goes harder than Cloud's Omnislash
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:50:57 PM
No.11916796
>>11915759
This should have been a late PS2 game
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 5:50:59 PM
No.11916797
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 7:22:39 PM
No.11916941
Ff8 is so bad lol but the ost and series keeps it up. The addon thing called apocalypse or whatever is good tho, makes the fights interesting
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 7:26:59 PM
No.11916949
>>11911504 (OP)
the gooch already told everyone that he was envious that he didn't come up with that earlier and now seems to imply that's canon now
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:11:30 AM
No.11917874
>>11917987
>>11916790
Even his e-buss
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 5:25:42 AM
No.11917987
>>11918843
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 7:22:28 AM
No.11918261
>>11918865
Siefer would have been a better protag. His story is better than squall by a long shot
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:23:59 PM
No.11918843
>>11917987
Yeah right, sissy
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:36:59 PM
No.11918859
His romantic dream was to be a real version Laguna's character from the movie Laguna was in (he even copies Laguna's battle stance with a sword from the dragon "minigame" where you film the movie in that one flashback).
I'd like to know if he forgot the orphanage like the others, because he never equipped gfs.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 3:42:24 PM
No.11918865
>>11923718
>>11918261
His romantic dream was to be a real version Laguna's character from the movie Laguna was in (he even copies Laguna's battle stance with a sword from the dragon "minigame" where you film the movie in that one flashback).
I'd like to know if he forgot the orphanage like the others, because he never equipped gfs.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 4:03:59 PM
No.11918903
>>11919124
>>11914214
>ff10 require so much planning to make them moderately challenging to play
I must have been an idiot as a kid, because I thought the dark aeons were impossibly hard to defeat. Kind of like Omega Weapon and Ozma.
Haven't touched FF8-10 since release, guess I'll have to replay them someday.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:00:35 PM
No.11919124
>>11918903
They are difficult and considered superbosses.
You basically need at least celestial weapons and have done a lot of the monster arena sidequest (where you get items to get the good upgrades).
Or pay Yojimbo a fuckton b/c his Zanmato one-shots every dark aeon.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:06:11 PM
No.11919140
>>11919146
8 being bad is such a bandwagon lol. Just like 6 being phenomenal with no issues and 7 being overrated are. For some reason it's literally impossible for people to have an objective opinion on the Final Fantasy series.
No other JRPG series has as big of an echo chamber as Final Fantasy does.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 6:08:00 PM
No.11919146
>>11919140
This. 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 are all some of the greatest RPGs ever. Calling any of them "bad" is completely laughable.
>Disidia comes out
>Ultimecia uses Rinoaβs weapons
And people still have the gall to deny R=U
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:16:47 PM
No.11919384
>>11919679
>>11919260
>time jannies appear on FF7R
>that means OG FF7 was always part of a multiverse
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:24:43 PM
No.11919405
>>11919679
>>11919260
Disidia came out less than 10 years later and was mostly made by the same people.
FF7R came out almost 30 years later and is made by a completely different group of people.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:31:26 PM
No.11919416
>>11919426
>>11919260
I thought R=U was very obvious first time I played ('02). I didn't realize until 15 years later it was a point of contention at all. Now I could see it either way. The end credits scene has Rinoa constantly fading away in a few scenes, but in the end she's on the balcony.
It's a personal headcanon decision as far as I'm concerned.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:38:44 PM
No.11919426
>>11919434
>>11919448
>>11919260
>>11919416
R=U ruins the message of FF8
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:41:49 PM
No.11919434
>>11919441
>>11919426
I've played this game over 500 hours, it's my favorite game. But I have no idea what you mean, what is "the message" of VIII to you?
Last I checked "the message" was to stop being a whiny bitch, man up, and get in the robot.
>>11919434
The message is to stop being a whiny bitch, open yourself and risk everything for love because it will be worthy. It doesn't become worthy if your loved one becomes the fucking villain of the story. Wanting that to be true is so cynical that only westerners could be obsessed with it. It goes against the overarching message of the series as a whole even, it was never about le grimdark evil twist at the end. I consider it incredibly distasteful. Same with Squall is dead theory, just plain stupidity
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:49:45 PM
No.11919448
>>11919426
What's the message of FF8?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:57:01 PM
No.11919461
>>11919471
>>11919441
>The message is to stop being a whiny bitch, open yourself and risk everything for love because it will be worthy. It doesn't become worthy if your loved one becomes the fucking villain of the story.
Yes that IS the message.
>Your love interest used to be with your hated rival and bully, but man up and she's yours now, don't let it bother you.
>Your love interest is possessed by a time witch (which may or not be her in the future) and you need to save her.
Edea was possessed by Ultimecia and was once the villan, but Cid still loved her.
I lean towards Rinoa being temporarily possessed. But assuming you DO believe R=U, she isn't U now and you have to love her for who she is in the moment. I don't see how that takes away from the message.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:58:33 PM
No.11919463
>>11919441
Based, this guy gets it
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 8:59:04 PM
No.11919464
>>11919441
>because it will be worthy
Not from a non-virginal whore who openly talks about her past fucking a dumb thug, lmao.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:01:26 PM
No.11919471
>>11919485
>>11919461
Message aside, the whole thing falls apart. Sorceresses aren't supposed to have lifespans lasting centuries, they have normal human lifespans and have to transfer their powers at the end of their lives if they still have them. Again, it's a convoluted theory born out of an unsatisfactory feeling with the main narrative.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:06:30 PM
No.11919485
>>11919471
>Message aside, the whole thing falls apart.
The whole damn story is in shambles, over half of the plot was cut in development and they hastily put what was left together to make some sense. It *barely* makes sense, esp if you haven't read the Ultimania book.
Still my favorite game.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:31:52 PM
No.11919536
>>11919580
>>11911504 (OP)
The hate is because of rinoa and not the game fault, faggots had the same issue with bahamut lagoon because of the NTR.
Funny how despite several lines implicating a tifa X barret thing in ff7 nobody minded it (was it because tifa was eating choco bananas and your love interest was anyone you wanted so it didn't matter).
>>11919536
There were zero hints that Tifa x Barret is a thing at all, no matter how much hidden dialog you read.
There is also nothing in VIII saying Rinoa even as much as kissed Seifer, just that she had a crush on him.
You do get to choose a waifu for Gold Saucer, but Tifa and Cloud do canonically have sex before the final dungeon no matter what you do, it's even confirmed in dev interviews. The scene has more dialog if your Tifa hidden rating is high enough.
Also virginity is overrated, who fucking cares?
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 9:54:07 PM
No.11919589
>>11919595
>>11920024
>>11919580
>There is also nothing in VIII saying Rinoa even as much as kissed Seifer, just that she had a crush on him.
You can bring Rinoa into the penultimate battle with him, and he'll say something like
>Why are you fighting me, Rinoa? Don't you remember last summer when we...
If you've gone through puberty, you can infer what this means.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:00:26 PM
No.11919595
>>11919596
>>11919589
That's fair I guess, I guess I'll try to get that dialog this playthrough. It only bothers teenagers and wizards though, virginity is weird and overrated, I like my women to know how to dance.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:01:02 PM
No.11919596
>>11919607
>>11919595
>virginity is weird and overrated, I like my women to know how to dance
Ok bot-kun.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:04:55 PM
No.11919607
>>11919608
>>11919616
>>11919596
What? I'm 36, I don't gaf about some purity bullshit. I lost mine at 18 and she had been with plenty of dudes, some I even knew, it's not actually a big deal. That's probably why it's in the game, to teach young'ns to get over it.
Also, there aren't bots on 4chan, not since Captcha. I remember when there were and it was obvious.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:05:52 PM
No.11919608
>>11919612
>>11919607
>what? I'm not a bot, i'm this many years old!
Ok bot-kun.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:06:20 PM
No.11919612
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:08:29 PM
No.11919616
>>11919607
>That's probably why it's in the game, to teach young'ns to get over it.
>hand rubbing intensifies
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 10:38:31 PM
No.11919679
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:06:30 AM
No.11920024
>>11920026
>>11919589
Squaresost loves NTR back then.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:07:33 AM
No.11920026
>>11920141
>>11920024
Forgot the pic.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:09:12 AM
No.11920114
>>11920115
Anyone know of an easy, maybe printable list, of every card and what they refine into? I'm trying to get some troll stuff before leaving for Timber and I can only win one card at a time rn. I hate alt-tabbing and looking each card up.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:10:15 AM
No.11920115
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:14:09 AM
No.11920120
>>11911504 (OP)
I wish it didn't involve witches and weird time stuff, I loved the idea of being a trained mercenary and going to do crazy shit. The Seed exam is 10/10
Speaking of Final Fantasy.
>about to beat IX
>Disc 1 and 2 were great and the story felt like the stakes were high and everything was moving at a good pace
>get to disc 3
>it finally opens up but it doesnt really feel like theres much going on in the story
>Kuja really doesnt feel like that scary of a bad guy
>you need to stop him, sure... but he's not actively doing too much
>also, you need to play an awful chocobo treasure hunt mini-game to get the best weapons in the game. It'll take about a day and a half
If this game was a 9/10 before, the entirety of disc 3 is lowering it to a 7. It sucks it fizzled out this much. I just hope the end and disc 4 make it worth it. Even the side quests in the open world arent all that interesting. The only one I really cared about with the whole moogle post office thing and why it was gummed up.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:26:33 AM
No.11920141
>>11920145
>>11920026
I gonna correction villainess
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:27:06 AM
No.11920145
>>11920141
You're a cuck if you want sloppy seconds.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:32:48 AM
No.11920151
>>11920392
>>11920125
>it finally opens up but it doesnt really feel like theres much going on in the story
Desert Palace, Oeilvert, and Ipsen's Castle are pretty cool. The story from this point is kinda shit from here but it's fine. Then you've got to slog through Terra, but the final dungeon is neat.
If you're on a version with speed boost throw that on in Chocobo Hot & Cold - the timer doesn't speed up with the boost so you can usually get the max 8 items every round and it isn't so bad. It's boring as shit so idc if I cheat it.
Have you gotten Excalibur (one) by getting auction items, selling them to nobles, and then talking to the old man in Daguerro? There's tons of hidden stuff, scenes, treasure, and dialog in disc 3 that makes up for the weird story stuff to me.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:46:15 AM
No.11920172
>>11920125
> FF9
> Dagger's adopted mom sits in the cuck throne while her 2 pet clowns rape Dagger's eidolons out of her.
> Dagger meets Ramuh, asks his help, he sends her on a quest to figure out what he's about to do to her.
> What does he do to her? Full Ugly Bastard, grandpa edition.
> Dagger, stares up at him in absolute horror as he finishes inside her.
> Then it's Shiva & Ifrit's turn.
> Dagger groans spread eagled while Ifrit exhales smoke on the nape of her neck.
> Shiva grabs her hair and wraps her legs around the back of Dagger's neck.
> Later: Odin, Odin's horse, Atomos gaping her, Bahamut is huge.
> it's all for the good of Alexandria.
> Then it's destroyed.
Don't get me started on Freya, Beatrix, Steiner, Kuja, Dr. Tot, or the entirety of Tantalus.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:14:14 AM
No.11920392
>>11920417
>>11920151
Excalibur is next, then I've pretty much done everything. I'm grinding at the moment just getting ready for the final stretch.
I didnt have access to any of the speed cheats as I'm emulating it via the eboot on vita, so I'm just playing the vanilla psx version. I still wouldn't go so far as to say its a bad game by any means, but man did this final stretch really kill how much I was enjoying it. Where as I had a hard time putting the game down on disc 1 and 2, on 3 I'm having a hard time picking it up.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:25:11 AM
No.11920415
>>11920428
>>11920993
>>11920125
>an awful chocobo treasure hunt mini-game
Chocobo hot and cold was unironically one of my favorite parts of the game
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:28:52 AM
No.11920417
>>11920428
>>11920392
I think the final dungeon Memoria is a slight reference to the og FF1 poster. The Four Fiends are even a mildly difficult on low level runs which is nice - the game being easy is my biggest complaint so I handicap myself on reruns.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:35:57 AM
No.11920428
>>11920550
>>11920415
Its the random chance of not getting the chocographs that kills it. There are some people that got real unlucky and hit level 99 before they got the final piece. I was mildly unlucky and had to spend a day and a half replaying it till I got them all. If it wasnt for that aspect it would have been okay.
>>11920417
I'm just about there, neat to know the reference though. Just hoping the story really picks back up here before then and ends with a bang.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 6:53:20 AM
No.11920550
>>11920584
>>11920428
>hit level 99 before they got the final piece
And what problem does that cause? Don't think I even bothered getting anywhere near level 99
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:12:28 AM
No.11920584
>>11920550
No, I'm saying they attempted to get the chocographs so much but its so RNG dependent that some people didn't recieve it till they had maxed out the chocobos level from failed attempts. So thats hundrered of attempts and hours upon hours of playing a very bland mini-game just so you can get several of the end game weapons. Not terribly good game design.
>>11919580
So those lines doesn't hint anything for you?.
>Tifa : maybe barret is mad because i'm not paying too much attention to him.
>tifa: what do you mean cloud? I was in seventh heaven all night.
Those are on the start, i started playing it a few days ago for the first time and those lines just tell a lot, then you have the whole jhonny spending a whole day with tifa.
No complains about that i was suspecting something like that after bahamut lagoon and ff8.
>>11920605
I don't think either of those lines are sexual. Barret rambles on and gets emotional about shit. The bar's name is Seventh Heaven... I don't know if that's a euphemism in japanese but it could be a double entendre in english and that's fine if you headcanon it that way idc.
I think she totally fucked Johnny in Costa Del Sol.
But, again, this obsession with 'purity' is why I've known so many virgins in their 30's. I got over worrying about that shit in high school, and I especially don't care in fiction. But if you want to spend your life obsessing over it then you do you.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 12:22:28 PM
No.11920993
>>11920415
Same, I was fucking obsessed with it as a 9 or 10 year old.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:04:40 PM
No.11921050
>>11920605
You're completely mindbroken
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:31:10 PM
No.11921206
>>11920624
That Rinoa girls looks to be trying to cast a spell! She seems to be joking, in some extroverted social way, but maybe there's strong irony about this interaction... not that FF ever has any irony!!
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:12:46 PM
No.11921278
>>11921549
>>11920605
get off twitter and youtube man, touch some grass.
Tifa's overarching theme as a character is that she's actually a tease and fawns only for Cloud.
Aeris is the slut.
>>11920624
>I think she totally fucked Johnny in Costa Del Sol.
lmao even.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 6:45:36 PM
No.11921549
>>11921278
Tifa fag long time without seeing you, as was said before both are sluts and the remake makes it more clear.
>remake :tifa introduce you to the owner of the appartments, the old lady gives you a mission to fix the plumbing on the building.
>tifa says she is gonna help but needs to prepare.
>tifa goes to her room and as soon you get close to the door tifa moanings can be heard but cloud can't enter her room.
There are lot of stuff that can be noticed in the game about tifa but most saw one scene and assumed shit when romantic partner could be anyone but the main was aerith seeing the romantic value.
>aerith +2.54
>tifa +0.89
>yuffie +0.75
Checked the romantic value (relation points) and with tifa you start at 3 points, with aerith you start at 34 points and with yuffie you start at 14 points, so is kinda obvious tifa wasn't main girl.
>>11911504 (OP)
Well the game is just part of kingdom hearts lore tie in, so people won't understand it.
What makes it clear is that several characters from ff8 are friends with sora and rikku making it clear ff8 is a prequel or sequel or something in those lines.
Take other characters and you notice they are from other worlds joining sora like the ff7 characters yet silphie is childhood friend of rikku, sora and kairi.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:43:17 PM
No.11921964
>>11922574
>>11920624
And how do you reached that anon cared about purity?.
Tifa and aerith are similar and i agree with lot of users that say both are sluts and even anon said he wasn't complaining about that.
The game isn't clear with main girl only the remake that pushes tifa (which walks like she had sex and is afraid cum will drip if she walks normally) since original has relation points but nobody knows how they develop, and checking my saves with black chocobo i don't understand since i had tifa on my party all the time, took her to the date in gold saucer yet her relationship points are quite low after checking the save close to cosmo canyon since tifa had 18 points, yuffie had 34 points, barret had 19 points, aerith had 99 points, caith sith 16 points and so on with main in party being tifa (from start as healer) and yuffie.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:52:32 PM
No.11921981
>>11914812
>I wonder how intelligently you approached vidya when you were in your early teens
Moreso than now. I don't take videogames nearly as seriously as I used to.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:27:48 PM
No.11922060
>>11922574
Squall is alive. Rinoa is not Ultimecia. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:40:31 AM
No.11922574
>>11922618
>>11921964
I just figured he was another guy from earlier in the convo.
>The game isn't clear with main girl only the remake that pushes tifa
Tifa does have sex with cloud in the original before you enter northern cave, devs confirmed the original plan was for them to sleep in the stables and have a scene where Cloud sneaks out in the morning with more obvious hints. She is basically the main girl.
As far as the relationship stuff for gold saucer works. There are multiple guides online (some newer ones are more accurate) but some of the stuff is really obtuse. Like talking to the npcs in Kalm and answering yes or no gives or takes points, only if those characters are with you. You can ezpz guarantee Yuffie by going through the recruitment scene 3x answering all the questions right except the last. The points carry over after the date and you get more dialog, like Tifa before they do the dirty saying more love and life stuff.
>>11922060
I don't think anyone actually believed the Squall is Dead thing. It's just a fun thing to think about since you technically could make it work in your headcanon because of the time compression and all that weird warping out of reality stuff in the end credits.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:19:50 AM
No.11922618
>>11922574
Advent children says different which was made to finish the tons of letters from fans pestering square with "did tifa and cloud had sex before blah blahh".
So the game director and writers went with making a movie to end any questions, with cloud wondering alone still suffering after aerith loss with aerith being part of the movie theme even if she died while barret and tifa mama adopt a new children denzel (with barret calling tifa "mama") so there are no doubts about couples and who is main girl unless you didn't watch the movie.
The first game makes it more clear since the first girl introduced like a classic anime love development being aerith (jessie was shown first but nothing can be done) after that you get introduced to tifa.
The only thing i liked about tifa was that she was a clone of an eroge girl that was a fighter and massive slut.
The northern cave thing well who knows, i don't recall it because played it 20 years ago but if memory doesn't fail me it was yuffie for that playthrough so that event would give sense to the relationship points and event will change depending on who has the highest points.
>>11920624
jesus fucking christ the shitmaster looks so incredibly awful. might actually be worse than ffx. just fucking nuke square enix for good already, they havent done a single thing right for FUCKING DECADES now.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:45:01 AM
No.11922845
>>11923070
>>11923184
>>11922813
Oh yeah? Well I think it looks better. I even downsized that, I'm playing it in 4K. I played the original when it came out, I still have my original discs, I play the version I prefer.
There's no need to be upset, (You) can play it in 320x240 with the absurdly slow original speed and I'm not going to bitch about it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:24:38 AM
No.11922908
>>11923184
>>11922813
Remaster looks good, i will rather play that one that the original.
The original not even using the whole upscale and other stuff on emu will look good hence some complain about the remaster because it shows them the reality that the original will never look as good no matter how many shaders are made or how much they upscale it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:41:25 AM
No.11923070
>>11923083
>>11922845
disingenuous comparison. show me the battle models instead of the field models that we will never look at up close anyway.
>>11923070
>disingenuous comparison
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.
I currently play 4k (2160), here's a battle screenshot of remastered at "only" 1440 - along with an embedded shot of the PSX running native resolution.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:57:58 AM
No.11923097
>>11923123
>>11923083
>muh pixels
Iβm not a PC fag, so I donβt give a shit.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:58:23 AM
No.11923101
>>11923123
>>11923083
>heres a shot at 1440p because the lifeless sharp models and blurry backgrounds look even worse in 4k
keep coping kiddo
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:00:25 AM
No.11923106
>>11923123
>>11923083
>muh ps1 native resolution
anyone playing the OG is either using a CRT or upscaling, literal non issue.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:10:01 AM
No.11923116
>>11923083
That looks absolutely fucking disgusting and the new character models not only stick out like a sore thumb, but are hideously designed and look nothing like the characters from the original's pre-rendered scenes.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:14:44 AM
No.11923123
>>11923132
>>11923097
>>11923101
>>11923106
>The hivemind told me the original of everything is better!!!
I'm not telling other people what to do, that guy got buttmad just because I posted a remaster screenshot. I don't go around to random threads saying I don't like what or how others play. I don't care what you play, but I think the remaster looks better so it's what I play and screenshot, get over it. It's the same game.
>>11923123
ps1 version looks better but the sped up draw animation and no encounter toggle makes the remaster worth it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:34:37 AM
No.11923156
>>11923162
>>11923132
The speed boost is why I got the remaster in the first place. It even makes the game harder since it's ATB, I keep it on even for bosses. I've beaten it 5-10x already (2x on PS1), I appreciate being able to lose if I fuck up.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:41:03 AM
No.11923162
>>11923193
>>11923156
The reason I haven't played 9 ever, is because I heard it's even slower. I don't know if the remaster speeds it up. I don't like playing with fast forward.
No encounter toggle sounds good. I hate travelling in these games because it's interrupted by constant trash fights.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:49:22 AM
No.11923172
>>11923176
>>11923180
>>11923132
>no encounter toggle
ps1 version already had this howeverbeit.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:51:16 AM
No.11923176
>>11923172
Required quite a bit of grinding iirc
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:54:45 AM
No.11923180
>>11923172
>howeverbeit
Is /o/ your main board, by chance?
>>11922813
>>11922845
The remaster is a very mixed bag. If you've never played the game before in any capacity it's an acceptable version. There's no major omissions or ill-advised changes and it actually includes pocketstation emulation so I could finally play the chocobo world minigame and...realize I wasn't missing much all these years. The soundtrack is still top tier and sounds good. The character models are fine. The redrawn triple triad cards are actually a nice touch.
But the backgrounds are fucking ass. I don't know what
>>11922908 is fucking smoking because the remaster's "upscaling" is just blurring the shit out of everything until it's not pixelated any more. It sacrifices rough edges for blurriness and it's a bad trade-off. The whole game looks out of focus, which is a tragedy because those fucking backgrounds were beautiful on a CRT. It was just jarring and I could never get over it. No excuse for that. You lost the assets or whatever? Fuck, man. Bite the bullet and draw them again. You completely remade the character models in 3D but no one a square enix can make a pre-rendered background any more?
And what also really chapped my ass was no more force feedback, which is also fucking inexplicable. No rumble for the gunblade just takes the absolute piss out of literally every encounter. Honestly can't remember another port where the rumble function was somehow too much of a technical hurdle to overcome. The fact that they didn't deem it important enough to figure out is an indictment of their attitude towards the whole project. It wasn't an incompetent port, but it was still made with a minimum of passion. Nobody who actually gave a shit about FFVIII could just blow off force feedback like it didn't matter, or be okay with the terrible presentation of previously fantastic pre-rendered backgrounds.
I'm not always a sticker for original versions but honestly the original disk version running through my ps3 was preferable to the remake
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:58:36 AM
No.11923186
>>11912015
It doesn't make sense because the camera switches angles and shows it went through his shoulder where the heart, lungs, kidneys, and brain are.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:00:48 AM
No.11923193
>>11923162
The newer IX releases have a speed boost that helps a lot.
If you add Moguri Mod you can cut out the battle intros, have whatever speed boost you want for the game, and a separate battle speed boost you can set at whatever speed. None of it messes with the music.
The PSX FFs are my favorite games but I just can't replay them without a speed boost, they were time sinks made before everyone had high speed internet or phones - it almost feels like they were intentionally slowed down for padding.
>>11923184
>If you've never played the game before in any capacity it's an acceptable version.
Look, it's my favorite game. I've easily gotten 500 hrs, probably more like 700 in there. I played it on release, and beat it 2x on PSX on CRT 20-25 yrs ago. Yet, I prefer the remaster's graphics, I really do.
This board has a thing where people want to act like "gaming OGs" ("I AM Kirito!") so you only play they play the original on CRT. But I already did that and, guess what, it's the same game with tiny differences. It blows my mind people tie their egos into acting like they played games before others - I'm from the '80s played this before most and it doesn't mean a damn thing.
I can handle the contrast between upscaled models and stretched backrounds (picrel), I can handle the no rumble (I never liked rumble desu). It doesn't mean I don't like the game, what even is that? This isn't a competition, we don't even have usernames.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:38:12 AM
No.11923242
>>11923229
>This board has a thing where people
Gotta learn to ignore it. Any disagreement or negative comment will be voiced, like in the mind of a neurotic person, but it's just noise.
>>11923229
Your pic shows exactly what I was talking about: razor-sharp high-rez character models incongruously floating amidst a background that look like a colorized old photograph passed through a xerox machine 100 times and then photographed underwater. The foreground is as out of focus as the background. I keep having the urge to squint just looking at it. And you not are not bothered by this; you find it preferable? Anon, get your eyes checked.
And as for
>I never liked rumble desu
coming from someone who claims this is his favorite game...I don't even know what to say to that. That's like saying a BLT is your favorite sandwich but you never liked mayo
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 10:50:56 AM
No.11923315
>>11923287
>And as for
>>I never liked rumble desu
>coming from someone who claims this is his favorite game...I don't even know what to say to that. That's like saying a BLT is your favorite sandwich but you never liked mayo
i'm not that anon but FF8 is also one of my favorite games, i kinda grew out of rumble once i got a stereo setup with good bass
i also prefer the OG graphics but like them at a bit higher resolution with proper texture mapping
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:50:44 AM
No.11923373
>>11923229
planet retard called. they want their copium back.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:53:32 AM
No.11923378
>>11923492
>>11923827
>>11923287
shitmaster looks like eye rape but cmon dude, a rumbling gunblade attack is hardly in the top 50 most essential aspects of ffviii. I like it too but its hardly a big deal. a BLT without mayo is more like playing ffviii with the sound turned off.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:57:37 AM
No.11923382
>>11923405
>>11923229
playing this handheld on my switch lite the backgrounds really didnt seem that bad but blown up on a big screen, holy shit what were they thinking. what a fucking disgrace. I love how squeenix will but a jillion dollars into retconning ffvii into gay nomura ubislop or a million hd2d wanks but couldnt even pretend they gave a fuck about remastering their most acclaimed trilogy of games. they deserve death, unironically.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:07:52 PM
No.11923405
>>11923382
I don't like Squenix after FFX came out either. This remaster was outsourced ffs.
They did upscale some things in the remaster without upscaling others which creates a contrast. But the original had the same backgrounds and that wobbly polygon shit. We all know the original background files were lost; this is better than nothing.
I guarantee if you played the remaster in the same res (240p) as the original, the remaster would look better to anyone. It really isn't that different from the original, which is why I'm so confused as to why people get heated about this.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:16:36 PM
No.11923486
>>11911519
>>11911504 (OP)
Fuck off back to rebbit headcanon tranny. R will never be U and U will never be a woman
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:20:17 PM
No.11923492
>>11923617
>>11924030
>>11923287
>>11923378
Rumble is absolutely necessary, the new graphics suck ass, and mayo is what beaners eat on their corn. Real men eat their BLTs dry
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:26:40 PM
No.11923606
>>11923184
Ok but wojak is gayer
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:29:17 PM
No.11923609
People who prefer the remaster befuddle me. They completely changed Squall's face to fit the anime boy mold, he doesn't look anything like his old renders/CGI. It's disgusting. Quistis was also kinda ruined.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:35:01 PM
No.11923617
>>11923492
>dry BLT
lmao go say this shit to /ck/, you will get laughed out of the room for being an utter taste pleb
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:39:33 PM
No.11923718
>>11918865
In the orphanage flashback you can literally inspect the TV and it says that an old video about a knight fighting a dragon is playing and that Seifer always watched it.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:41:16 PM
No.11923827
>>11923898
>>11923378
>>11923132
>ps1 version looks better
no matter how much you upscale bad looking stuff it will still end up looking bad.
at least bait better.
everyone is aware that modern crt shaders are shit compared to blarg ntsc but sadly most dropped it when their favorite troon developer told tthem "is not accurate to my memories" and followed his chant (even if his memory is failing).
The speed is the same in both, the hate for remaster is because made something good and was remaking the models all over and remaking the backgrounds to match the models.
played the original back then with a crt tv and pc connected to CRT, tried to replay the original again but is too fucking ugly to even be played so got remaster which was a great upgrade (not hive mind).
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:08:41 PM
No.11923890
>>11923898
>>11924354
remaster is what some consider a direct attack.
>better models.
>better maps.
>better animations.
despite all this most consider it an attack because defies their headcanons thus start hating it... not because is bad but because is better.
>nooooohhh how do they dare to change muuuhh realistic characters to look like anime, square enix is evil!!.
even if remaster just made the characters based on designs and in line with FFX characters.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:12:26 PM
No.11923898
>>11924114
>>11923827
>>11923890
You're having a meltdown because others have a different preference.
>pixels bad!
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:46:02 PM
No.11923953
>>11924036
>>11923184
Which version of the remaster allows me to play chocobo world? I miss that little bird
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 5:48:21 PM
No.11923959
>>11923184
Pocketstation emulator is included in the PC version of the original. I used to run it in background.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:23:11 PM
No.11924030
>>11923492
>Rumble is absolutely necessary
correct
>the new graphics suck ass
correct
>Real men eat their BLTs dry
are you insane
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:25:08 PM
No.11924036
>>11924039
>>11924068
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:25:56 PM
No.11924039
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:42:21 PM
No.11924068
>>11924308
>>11924036
Yeah I like the convenience of playing on my phone anymore. Need to fill in the commute to add from work
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:11:40 PM
No.11924114
>>11924141
>>11923898
>You're having a meltdown because others have a hive mind.
sorry for having different opinion to the hive mind.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:27:42 PM
No.11924141
>>11924376
>>11924114
>I love eating shit
>That's good because it means I'm not part of the hive mind!
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:53:11 PM
No.11924308
>>11924068
>on your fucking Phone
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:16:39 PM
No.11924354
>>11924403
>>11925657
>>11923890
The problems with the models aren't that they look bad or are poorly animated but that they're not consistent with the artstyle or the other parts of the game.
The original in-game models were rough as fuck, yes, but they were consistent with the rest of the game's aesthetic. The new models have better textures, details and animations, yes. But they look like assets from a completely different game dropped into an much older one where they don't belong because that's essentially what they are. The character models got better but the environments they were placed in didn't so they stick out like a sore thumb. They took a game that was rough around the edges but still seamless and consistent and turned it into a frankenstein of part made for different purposes at different times by different people. The seams show.
And again, I'm not saying the remaster is unplayable. I just played it all the way through. But acting like it was some across the board improvement is just flat-out lying. It's a compromised vision.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:27:24 PM
No.11924376
>>11924141
>final fantasy 8 original is like curry it tastes great but still looks like shit.
>final fantasy 8 remaster is like curry pan it tastes great and looks great.
make better bait.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 9:41:36 PM
No.11924403
>>11924354
is final fantasy mate, most end up looking similar so having final fantasy X like models on the remasters based on original illustration was great, yest it looks a bit different to some cinematics but is more consistent in the overall theme unlike original.
what you are doing is similar to the complain some have about the ff7 remake because tifa walks like she just had sex and is afraid cum will drip if she walks normally and behave more flirty/slutty overall with a better character design which is what some old fags hate which is changing the design from their headcanon to a modernized look based on illustration made back then which isn't bad is just technology catched with what the designer had in mind back then but couldn't do which is what they hate and it makes it obvious why there aren't more mods for it because any mod of character could improve the game since anyone could make the char models look like the original designs, is same ff7 shit all over again.
>fags hate mods ports from modern versions
>fags hate original mods based on the designs
>fags complain if someone make the characters from battles being used on field.
reason being simple because it shows them something they don't want to admit, while the chibi looks kawai animations are still the same so some stuff don't look as obvious when using the battle models in field.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:27:41 AM
No.11925005
>>11925025
>>11920624
Can't AI do something about those backgrounds
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:35:33 AM
No.11925025
>>11926141
>>11925005
There are AI upscale mods, none seem to look great in screenshots but I haven't tried.
Here's "Angelwing: Ultima" mod.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 2:37:50 AM
No.11925029
You can also get upscaled battle backgrounds.
https://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=19218.0
VII and IX seem to have better mods. A lot of the VIII ones take artistic liberties.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:25:00 AM
No.11925657
>>11911504 (OP)
I started a replay. I forgot how much I enjoy the setting and characters.
>>11924354
Characters pop out due to low res in the original, and pop out due to high res in the remaster, it seems
play it with a CRT or a good CRT filter and the original looks the best by far.
it needs some gameplay rework mods like FF7 got with New Threat or FF6 got with Brave New World, imo. FF8 has a really really good story and visuals but the game is just kinda too flexible and therefore, too easy
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:41:24 AM
No.11925682
>>11925701
>>11925679
Visuals sure but the story after disc 1 is batshit goofy
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:50:57 AM
No.11925701
>>11925682
ah, no. not at all.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:10:06 AM
No.11925721
>>11925679
>too easy
A blessing for grown ups, since it means I don't have to grind a jrpg like it's a job
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 3:09:43 PM
No.11926141
>>11926339
>>11925025
That looks better, I wonder if newer AI models can improve some of the issues with the tree leaves
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 5:52:52 PM
No.11926339
>>11926578
>>11926141
I mean, it's not wrong to say FF8 "looks worse" on modern-day monitors because of the pixelation comparisons. But
>>11925679 is right when he mentions it genuinely just "looks better" on CRT television screens; the game was designed for that, and yes, it DOES make a significant difference.
Also, if you're asking about "wonder if AI helps," yeah, it does. The Moguri Mod for FFIX is mostly AI buffed and it makes a remarkably wonderful improvement for modern monitors. I'm unaware of what's available for FF8, though, and lack of investment by the modding teams can make it look outright stupid. Be careful.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:13:35 PM
No.11926578
>>11926339
Are those mods PC only or can they run in emulators too?
>>11920125
Whelp, I beat it. Its a bittersweet feeling because even though I loved the world, exploration, monsters, characters, ost, and the super wholesome story it cemented one thing for me... I just can't get into turn based combat and I gotta come to terms with that. I love every other aspect of jrpgs, but the core turn based gameplay always burns me out towards the end to the point of just doing the best I can to break or skip it. It really sucks, but thats the reality of it.
Glad to get another childhood game that I always wanted to beat off the backlog, but man was I sick of random encounters and turn based combat by the time the credits rolled. Arpgs, love em. Srpgs, fond of em, for some bizarre reason, dungeon crawlers, can't get enough of em... but traditional JRPGs just burn me out so bad that by the end I'm always debating watching the rest on youtube.
At the end of the game I just accepted that these games arent for me and it really sucks.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:56:40 PM
No.11926686
>>11926683
For those of you that do find standard JRPG's fun, just know I am eternally jealous.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:02:01 PM
No.11926693
>>11926683
>random encounters and turn based
It's always padding. Slop. Too much. I'm losing interest usually 20-30 hours in, give or take.
>>11926683
>man was I sick of random encounters
Just turn them off.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:05:34 PM
No.11926697
>>11926708
>>11926683
I have a friend who feels the exact same way about jrpg's, but he loved Chrono Trigger, said it was just different. Have you played it?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:12:52 PM
No.11926708
>>11926739
>>11926696
Talking about 9
>>11926697
No, maybe I'll give it a go later. Gonna play some Layton games for now to kinda cleanse the palate and just because the ff9 atmosphere really reminded me of them.
To this day the only JRPG I've attempted that I beat and genuinely enjoyed through and through was Dragon Quest XI and I think a big part of that was due to being able to fast forward the combat and in the late game theres a nice method thats still somewhat challenging that can completely circumnavigate the grind to level 100.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:23:00 PM
No.11926739
>>11926806
>>11926708
Also, I gotta say that I really did love the ending. You just don't get happy endings like that in media anymore or they are tainted with some weird subversive tropes. Juat a genuinely good ending where even the villain (who I felt kinda bad for throughout the story) got a good send-off as well. For all my misery towards the end, the ending made me genuinely smile and I don't come by that too often now of days.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:41:37 PM
No.11926802
>>11926823
>>11925679
I would do terrible things for a ffviii new threat. segacheif, please....
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:43:59 PM
No.11926806
>>11926739
I hated the ending because its just happy ever after slop. 7, 8, 10 all had way, way, way better endings. but those are just far better games in general so what do you expect.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:50:43 PM
No.11926823
>>11926862
>>11926802
He was working on it but I guess he gave up. There's no fixing that pile of shit mechanically speaking.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:00:48 PM
No.11926858
>>11928076
>>11928187
how to ffviii:
>one gf per character at a time
>one draw per character per battle
>no card or item refine
>no aura or meltdown
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:03:07 PM
No.11926862
>>11926823
just guessing, but I think the most likely reason he gave up and why there's been very, very little done in the way of hacking ff8 is because it's just hard to do.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:32:06 PM
No.11926967
>>11927795
>>11919580
This anon knows what's up
>>11920605
Ntr hentai has warped your brain.
>Rinoa and Seifer
Had a summer romance and Squall is jealous. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest they fucked though
>Tifa and Johnny
Two friends catching up, Cloud is jealous however. Nothing to suggest anything beyond friends getting together to talk.
>Tifa and Barret
I think it's too late to simply turn off the BBC porn at this point bro. You have thoroughly rotted your brain to the point that you're inventing scenarios to satisfy your fetishes.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:25:00 AM
No.11927795
>>11927829
>>11928373
>>11926967
Watch the movie it confirms tifa and barret dating HAHAHAHA!!!.
What will your gen of fags will know about something sexual if they find american pie offensive and too over sexual.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:27:08 AM
No.11927803
>>11928129
>>11928367
>>11919580
Advent children has barret calling tifa "mama" like if they were couple, tifa even called barret papa (in game and movie) so was all over it fag unless your braindead or too retarded to read more then 20 characters.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 3:36:22 AM
No.11927829
>>11927795
>Watch the movie it confirms tifa and barret dating
Are you a schizophrenia? That is not only not true, but Cloud and Tifa are living together by the movie.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 5:27:18 AM
No.11928076
>>11928121
>>11926858
That sounds like hell. Everyone is going to be level 100 in the middle of disc 2 with nothing to show for it
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:04:21 AM
No.11928121
>>11928076
grinding a ton of battles to get past the draw limit would just kill the point of the challenge run. I do it and it makes the game feel actually balanced and I dont need to grind at all, just be strategic about my junction setups.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:08:55 AM
No.11928129
>>11927803
To me the only canon is the original international version of the game. Maybe you can include the [original] Ultimecia Omega book or maaybe direct statements by devs. Same with any game, really.
The original devs grow older and change like anyone else. Their retcon bullshit in later games and movies is just as much of fanfiction as actual fanfiction.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:37:47 AM
No.11928187
>>11928237
>>11928442
>>11926858
>>one gf per character at a time
This makes the game better. Better balance, but you also cut down on bullshit like getting magics and switching junctions between characters.
Only 1 GF and for the most part you only need one junction, so no matter what you do, you don't have to spend time on it. I refine items because it's over quick and I can focus on the game
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:59:04 AM
No.11928228
>>11928274
>tfw no gf
cant wait to finally man up and end it all.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:04:56 AM
No.11928237
>>11928289
>>11928442
>>11928187
So for 3/4 of the game you just put magic on str and hp? You don't naturally get that much magic, and the junction skills for gfs need to be learned. This just seems to extend the grind. The story is actually really short for a square jrpg and your method adds grinding from what I can see
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:23:11 AM
No.11928274
>>11928228
Nah, stay alive in spite of it all. That's what I'm doing. No reason to check out early.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:39:49 AM
No.11928289
>>11928312
>>11928237
I played two hours, became a SEED, and had maxed Zell's STR with fire, refined from the crap you get from random encounters. I did a full playthrough playing this way few years ago
>your method adds grinding from what I can see
Nope, the opposite. Open your eyes
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:51:11 AM
No.11928312
>>11928349
>>11928289
There is no possible way to get Zell to 255 strength by junctioning fire. That is not something that can happen in the game. Nice larp ig
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:06:49 AM
No.11928349
>>11928361
>>11928312
>There is no possible way to get Zell to 255 strength by junctioning fire
Then MAYBE I didn't fucking mean 255 STR in two hours with fire
I can't tell if you're being seriously dumb or baiting
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:10:45 AM
No.11928361
>>11928382
>>11928349
Then what is max strength? Some arbitrary number? It can be "strong" if you are doing a low level run but junctioning fire is not going to help much in a "casual playthrough" like you are claiming. Chill. Fire is going to make your strength 40 vs 20. Great. That is not going to be helpful for long
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:12:33 AM
No.11928367
>>11927803
Ntr cuck porn has rotted your brain
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:15:26 AM
No.11928373
>>11927795
>ESL headcanons Tifa with a brown guy
Sad, many such cases. Sorry to ruin your goon sesh but Tifa is strictly for Cloud.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:20:39 AM
No.11928382
>>11928394
>>11928361
>Then what is max strength? Some arbitrary number?
Whatever it is with a full junction at the time
>That is not going to be helpful for long
By then I can refine better magic
You guys worry too much about minmaxing
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:27:14 AM
No.11928394
>>11928504
>>11928382
You are misremembering a "casual" or "fun" run of this simple game and trying to advise others to play it in a crippled way. I just think you are doing more harm than good. The game doesn't need to be "minmaxed" in the slightest. If you get any character to 255 strength (not required or recommended) every enemy melts
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:54:20 AM
No.11928442
>>11928515
>>11928187
>>11928237
I think a good gamedesign upgrade would be
>Each character has their own character expression (akin to FF4, 5, 6, etc.) via a unique attribute/limit*
>single equip GF
>GFs offer "class/job" kits, ie. Fighter, Black Mage, White Mage, Monk, Ninja, etc.
>Using a stat with magic junctioned to it depletes the magic, just like casting the magic would
Now I'm not saying FF8's flexibility in vanilla where you can approach the game in almost any way you want is bad, I'm just pointing out how it could be a really neat RPG with a few tweaks
*Squall has signature 100% attack accuracy, has the sickest limit breaks, Selphie has a boost in drawing magic, Quistis has a boost in directly casting drawn magic, Zell depletes his junctioned magic at a lower rate, Irvine's attacks always use bullets that he funds by stockpiling magic into those bullets, Rinoa is unchanged (a jobber who gets rage-magic after sorceressifying)
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:27:10 AM
No.11928504
>>11929462
>>11928394
>You are misremembering
Based on what, your imagination?
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:33:10 AM
No.11928515
>>11928728
>>11928442
>GFs offer "class/job" kits, ie. Fighter, Black Mage, White Mage, Monk, Ninja, etc.
That's basically what they do.. Iirc Ifrit is a fighter with elemental attacks, Siren a caster with status effect attacks, Diablos a mage
There's no labels or costumes, but otherwise they're pretty much classes
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:37:48 AM
No.11928728
>>11928739
>>11928515
While somewhat true, the way you can junction more than one GF and the amount of universal stuff they have kinda dilute that.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:41:12 AM
No.11928739
>>11928728
True, that's why I recommend distributing them among the party. That way you don't have to worry about junction switching when characters change between scenarios, everyone is already set.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:25:27 PM
No.11929028
>>11912679
I donβt even think breaking it is that fun or intended. All you do if find a way to get late game spells to stat into gf to 1 shot everything in standard auto attacks
Its no arpg just some goofy bullshit that was probably trying to find a way to not have a mp bar
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:32:09 PM
No.11929040
>>11912018
>The playing with GFs your first playthrough
You're not supposed to do that?
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:05:09 PM
No.11929462
>>11929484
>>11928504
Based on the way the game works. But go ahead and post proof of your characters at the end of the game after only equipping one GF per character. Is it a revolving door of swapping GFs out or is a character stuck with a single GF?
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:19:12 PM
No.11929484
>>11929782
>>11929462
>Based on the way the game works
Meaning?
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:21:00 PM
No.11929489
>>11929492
>>11929618
>>11911504 (OP)
There was no way theyd match the masterpiece of 7. I remember being so disappointed i returned it a day early
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:23:14 PM
No.11929492
>>11929528
>>11929489
In the long run I think FF8 won just by virtue of not getting a bunch of terrible spinoff games and extended universe crap shitting all over it. I'm hoping its haters stay loud so we never get anything like FF7: REBIRTHMAKE
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 6:39:42 PM
No.11929528
>>11929492
FF8 deserves a similar remake though
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 7:20:19 PM
No.11929618
>>11929958
>>11929489
ff8 surpasses the juvenile attempt at cinema that was ff7 in every way.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:26:02 PM
No.11929782
>>11929818
>>11934430
>>11929484
Meaning that you are acting like the game throws so much garbage at you that you can waltz through the game refining items for all the spells you need to junction WHILE only limiting yourself to one single GF per character. You never specified if you restrict a single GF for the whole playthrough or it is more of a rotating door policy, but either way you will get road blocked in a way that forces you to grind. It is possible to play the game with your restrictions but it certainly adds more grinding than a "casual" playthrough. If you don't grind for no encounters the enemies are going to out stat your characters. If you don't draw there is no way you happen to have enough magic to junction enough to kill the fake president on the train. You are the one who is insisting it is a easy way to play but it is causing you to grind just as much as min maxxers. I am sorry you are getting upset for some reason. I am just trying to make sure you don't fool people who might be interested in trying the game who will certainly be frustrated if they try your method
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:42:18 PM
No.11929818
>>11929825
>>11929782
You're going through emotional turmoil and coping. All those hours you spent grinding FF8 were pointless and dumb. Sorry.
Try my method next time
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 8:45:00 PM
No.11929825
>>11929818
lol okay guy. Way to go
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:32:47 PM
No.11929958
>>11929964
>>11929618
It makes me laugh that you guys pretend FF8 is some kind of Tarkovskian high art when the entire narrative advances because everyone is an idiot
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 9:35:49 PM
No.11929964
>>11929958
I don't think something has to be high art to blow past FF7, but in the end they're probably both on about the same level of dumb goofy overly ambitious bullshit. That's why FF7 and 8 are fun.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:26:11 PM
No.11930101
>>11930117
>>11930126
>>11926696
Kids don't even know you can "Escape" or "Flee" from battles.
No, seriously. They don't know L1+R1 during battle EVEN EXISTS.
>Nothing told me!
Encounters always meant fighting, and Run Away was IMPOSSIBLE.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:32:49 PM
No.11930117
>>11930101
The amount of times I'd try to flee and almost got KO'd made it not really an option. It was less risky and faster to just spam my most powerful stuff and kill them.
Some of you guys need to stop assuming the worst.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:35:44 PM
No.11930126
>>11930168
>>11930101
Actually FF8 teaches fleeing during the first mission..
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:50:04 PM
No.11930168
>>11930359
>>11930126
It makes you do it, even, iirc.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 10:53:17 PM
No.11930176
>>11930245
>>11911519
>Squall is dead
>Theory
Not a theory. Wake up and smell the coffee. The new meta is trying to debunk the "Squall is Alive theory"
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:25:31 PM
No.11930245
>>11930176
I don't know what's more annoying, the ntr cuck faggots or the fanfiction .net headcanon faggots. Either way you both are extremely sad, pathetic creatures
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:11:36 AM
No.11930359
>>11930458
>>11930510
>>11930168
Yes, you have to escape from the spider robot a few times
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:48:37 AM
No.11930458
>>11930359
You can avoid it every time but the first, but you can also kill it.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:06:29 AM
No.11930510
>>11930665
>>11931324
>>11930359
β’ The first time is a must-fight
β’ The game formats the Dollet Town as a "puzzle" that rewards you for selecting correct/fast paths to avoid every encounter with it
β’ If you fail to avoid it (bad path choices or being too slow), you can simply fight it and it cripples it for a few extra seconds. Then, it's back to running from it.
β’ You are depleting its HP; you can kill it.
Ever notice the Quistis FMV where she gets on the mounted machine gun on the boat and kills X-ATM092? That same FMV won't appear if you destroy it. You get a lot of AP, SeeD points, and Force Amulet, too.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:57:38 AM
No.11930665
>>11930676
>>11930510
Well shit I had to fight it a few 3 or 4 times. But if you can fight it, it makes sense that you can draw cast Protect from it to make the fight easier..
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:03:00 AM
No.11930676
>>11930783
>>11930665
You don't have time to do defensive shit. If you want to beat it and escape in 20 minutes you need to grind your GFs on Seifer and have 100 Tornados on attack from card grinding. And finally, you're responding to a bot.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:13:31 AM
No.11930703
>>11930749
>dat cozy model train themed hotel in Timber
I spent almost all of last night farming items, lvl 30 before the 2nd Laguna flashback. It's a much better game if you fight most battles and actually level up.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:33:49 AM
No.11930749
>>11930703
Yeah if you aren't scared of gaining a couple of levels you can get a lot of enjoyment
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:46:37 AM
No.11930783
>>11930815
>>11930862
>>11930676
I'm not a bot for having wonderfully structured posts, dork. β’β’βββ’β’
I also happen to know FF8 because I've played it many time since it came out in 1998.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:54:21 AM
No.11930815
>>11930783
Only fools think there are bots on 4chan. There used to be, before captcha and post timers, and it was obvious (Oh, suddenly the catalog is full of illegal porn -_-). The only way to botpost now is to have a 4chan pass that you're willing to burn.
Anyway, it's been many years, I'm not flaming you, but for the record VIII came out in '99 - 9/9/99 in north america so it's easy to remember.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:18:05 AM
No.11930862
>>11930869
>>11930783
>it many time
SAAR YES PLAY MANY TIME I AM NOT BOT SAAR
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:20:50 AM
No.11930869
>>11930871
>>11930862
>keyboard eats a single letter
>now you have to be an Indian
one of the most tiresome things of nu-4chan, and I'm not even that anon
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:21:57 AM
No.11930871
>>11930886
>>11930896
>>11930869
Oh, the random charmap characters which require going out of your way to make didn't clue you in? Stupid faggot.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:28:19 AM
No.11930886
>>11930889
>>11930871
Jumpscare:
Β―\_ (γ)_/Β―
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:28:54 AM
No.11930889
>>11930886
>funniest chatbot
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:32:44 AM
No.11930896
>>11930904
>>11930871
He's talking about the game; you aren't.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:35:16 AM
No.11930904
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:37:43 AM
No.11931324
>>11930510
you can ALSO duck into the bar when the spider is chasing you, and when you get to the beach the spider will already be shot up so you skip the FMV as well
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:21:43 PM
No.11932079
>>11914214
If you don't have to junction magic on the character stats, for unknown reasons for the game is asking you to do so, instead, what do you do? Present to Ultimecia and fight her at level 1, without anything junctioned on the characters? And you call this a "good game"?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:22:58 PM
No.11932081
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:30:02 PM
No.11932087
>>11932138
Let me guess, you also believe that the Iifa Tree is Necron. Fucking idiots.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:42:59 PM
No.11932105
>>11932174
>>11926696
I was pleasantly surprised it only takes 30 AP to halve random encounters
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:56:50 PM
No.11932138
>>11932087
never heard that one before.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:08:04 PM
No.11932174
>>11932553
>>11932105
FF8 really puts "do it your way" as a priority.
if you want to just remove random encounters and play card games for power, you can do that.
inventory items are also stupid strong
spam limit breaks
spam magic
spam summons
junction your stats and spam attacks
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:27:19 PM
No.11932553
>>11932174
>do it your way
I'm sad for kids, these days, who demand to be told how to do it someone else's way for things to be "fun" anymore...
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:09:50 AM
No.11934321
>>11935459
>200 AP to unlock stealing
The biggest flaw of FF8
I collected the unique cards from Balamb, now going to the second mission.
I checked and I can already refine Firagas and Curagas lol, the scales of balance have tipped
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:23:37 AM
No.11934430
>>11934523
>>11929782
>If you don't draw there is no way you happen to have enough magic to junction enough to kill the fake president on the train.
Uh so what was supposed to be the issue with the president?
Is this just some pointless trolling
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:17:25 PM
No.11934523
>>11934645
>>11934430
>issue with the president?
forgetting to have a character with 'Item' junctioned so you can just throw a phoenix down at him
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:23:56 PM
No.11934537
>>11934556
>>11911512
>OP had to make a situation
This site has existed for over a decade:
https://squallsdead.com/
And people were talking about that theory for years before that site existed.
What kind of a person that actually existed during Gen 5 has not heard the Squall is Dead theory?
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:32:36 PM
No.11934556
>>11934537
Zoomers come here with a total lack of knowledge and then pretend to be the authoritative source on all things retro because they watched Scott the Woz once. If you partake in /vr/ discussions these days, you get gaslighted every day by these fuckers.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:19:06 PM
No.11934645
>>11934665
>>11934523
Does that one shot it? I cast Double and about 4 Cures on it while squall and zell pummeled it, and that was it.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:35:00 PM
No.11934665
>>11935117
>>11934645
It one shots the second form, you have to kill the president form with damage but thats trivial, he has under 800 hp max
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:46:15 PM
No.11935117
>>11935125
>>11934665
The issue is that if you are doing a "super casual epic one GF per character no grid chill AF run" through the game you are not going to be able to defeat the president. Unless you grind, which you would do to meet certain benchmarks you are already aware of, which defeats the whole claim of a "no grind ez playthrough" I am not saying the game is difficult, I am saying that restrictions like 1 GF make the game impossible without grinding stuff out which makes it just another form of min maxing, which is fine and what makes the game good. It is not the way anyone should do a blind first playthrough
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:48:57 PM
No.11935125
>>11935142
>>11935117
>not going to be able to defeat the president. Unless you grind
Tell me why exactly you still think that? Because I did it without grinding.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:57:52 PM
No.11935142
>>11935162
>>11935125
Oh my lord. You can't have an honest discussion without trying to pick at the most insignificant details as if it would make my argument invalid. Are you the one who was getting double or firaga from evrolet? That means you very high level for that part of the game. Which means you are not doing a casual run. This is all very simple. If you didn't grind you would not be able to get high level spells junctioned. If you don't cheese the dead president he blinds and berserks your party. You wouldn't have a way to handle that if you waltz in there with minimum stats and 1 GF. Does that make sense now? Can you put together the very basic information presented to you? You just played the part of the game, right? Can't wait to see how the goalposts move now for an "ez 1 GF run"
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:08:03 PM
No.11935162
>>11935403
>>11935142
>Are you the one who was getting double or firaga from evrolet?
No.
>president he blinds and berserks your party. You wouldn't have a way to handle that if you waltz in there with minimum stats and 1 GF. Does that make sense now? Can you put together the very basic information presented to you? You just played the part of the game, right? Can't wait to see how the goalposts move now for an "ez 1 GF run"
You get double and esuna straight from the president.
I see now that you are simply an unintelligent person.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:59:57 PM
No.11935403
>>11935162
Fair enough for gerogero. They do a great job of giving the player opportunity to make it through most everything, especially in disc 1. It is another thing I enjoy so much about the game. Most early bosses or monsters will have a cure spell to use if you are going to die.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:22:09 PM
No.11935459
>>11935496
>>11934321
Thankfully stealing is almost completely worthless outside of a few bosses and Curse Spikes from Tri-Face.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:37:12 PM
No.11935496
>>11935513
>>11935459
I don't know, I just thought I'd get extra items to refine into magic, and having a thief in my party would add some diversity.
Although if I leveled it up I'd be half way to Mug already, since I've been running around this tomb labyrinth for an hour. I haven't found a way to the proper boss fight yet.
Ultimecia castle is the best final dungeon in any J-RPG
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:45:09 PM
No.11935513
>>11935496
>I haven't found a way to the proper boss fight yet.
Nevermind. Now the bridge had appeared, and I haven't done anything except save the game after I last visited this screen..
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:47:48 PM
No.11935520
>>11935503
Based and truth pilled
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:24:39 PM
No.11935636
>>11935661
FFVIII is like the Star Wars prequels of JRPGs. People grew up with it, therefore it's good, and any criticisms are a meme or from boomers who can't let go of the previous entries. And they resort to weird mental gymnastics to justify why it's good. Sorry, but the fact that you can break the game before the Dollet SeeD exam isn't much of a defense. And it's just so fucking boring. Last time I played it there was like a three hour segment where I did nothing but random battles and rush through dialogue. I couldn't even get to the world map. It's like Squaresoft saw that people loved FF7's romance, minigames, cutscenes, amnesia plotline, vaguely sci-fi aesthetic and impressive summons and they thought damn, let's go all in on that instead of making a game or, you know, any of those things fun or interesting.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:31:08 PM
No.11935661
>>11935636
>FFVIII is like the Star Wars prequels of JRPGs
Oh so that's why it's so awesome
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:45:13 PM
No.11935691
>>11935503
It definitely gives Kefka's Tower a run for its money.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:35:43 AM
No.11936007
>>11938078
I finished disc 1. It's cool seeing Squall grow into a leader. Maybe Laguna was a good influence.
A remake could make a good story out of FF8, there is potential.
I also refined the minotaur card from the tomb into dinosaur bones into Quakes for everyone to junction, so that's taken care of. The diablo card can also be turned into a shitload of Demis if need be.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:24:34 AM
No.11936504
>>11937037
Nice. Disc 1 squall is best squall. Get ready for the story to get bizarre
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:52:49 AM
No.11937037
>>11936504
Just like your jewish mother giving up on you.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:50:39 PM
No.11937492
>>11937494
>>11911504 (OP)
The obtuse gameplay mechanics are what have kept me from playing this for years. Now I'm an old man and I feel like I'd need a strategy guide to play it now lol.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:52:32 PM
No.11937494
>>11937492
Just listen to what NPCs say and check in game tutorial through the main menu if you need to. It's not rocket science and nothing's "obtuse" when every little thing is explained.
And whatever you do don't listen to the retards telling you not to lvl up
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:45:21 PM
No.11937589
>>11911504 (OP)
This game made me quit playing Final Fantasy games. It was that bad to me.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:49:15 PM
No.11937596
>>11938041
>add magic to stat to make magic go up
>select your battle abilities from list
>DOOD ITS SO LE HECKIN OBTUSE
>straightforward time loop narrative
>ITS SOO CONFUSSING AHHH SAVE ME
>game allows you to break it early on but only if go out of your way to do so
>NOO ITS FORCING ME TO DRAW 99 SPELLS AND PLAY THE CARD GAME FOR HOURS WHY DID SQUARESOFT MAKE ME SO AUTISTIC
has any game in history filtered more retards than ffviii
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 6:44:00 PM
No.11938041
>>11937596
>straightforward time loop narrative
So if Edea literally saw Squall put Ultimecia to death, why did she start SeeD? She's already dead. Time paradox.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 6:45:58 PM
No.11938047
>>11938064
The flashback sections where the worst part. I don't know how anyone can defend those.
The game already has a cast of terrible characters but then it gets replaced for even more boring ones for very little pay off.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 6:57:32 PM
No.11938064
>>11938071
>>11938047
They're good and an important part of Squall's story.
My problem with them is that they take too long. Too much combat for quest characters, and how their junctions are handled is clumsy. Like the big guy wielding a fucking harpoon inherited the mage setup from Selphie. It's a bit awkward.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:01:49 PM
No.11938071
>>11938064
>and how their junctions are handled is clumsy
>use Edea in the only chance you have
>get punished immediately afterwards with a Laguna flashback because the Junction Switch menu doesn't work with guest characters
Yay.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:03:57 PM
No.11938078
>>11938093
>>11936007
IMO disc 2 it the best. Other than the filler arc in D-Prison ofc. Disc 2 is where Squall's rigid world crumbles around him
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:05:15 PM
No.11938079
>>11935503
I agree. I love it. I think it's the best realization of the sort of final dungeon vibe a lot of 2d FF games wanted to have, but couldn't.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:11:56 PM
No.11938093
>>11938112
>>11938078
I think I have previously missed on some Squall & Rinoa moments. You can give Rinoa a tour with litte scenes (where you joke about her being Squall's gf), but it gets skipped if you get interrupted by a messenger. I loaded a save to check out the scenes before triggering the story (NORG part)
>>11938093
yeah. it's actually one of the biggest flaws of the story. that stuff shouldn't have been "optional" like that. two different people playing the game one time can end up with completely different impressions of the characters because they dont' even see the same scenes in regards to rinoa+squall
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:18:14 PM
No.11938115
>>11938120
>>11938112
What are you referring to, specifically?
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:20:43 PM
No.11938120
>>11938125
>>11938115
several options to not having rinoa with you (or having rinoa with you) will miss scenes, playing the wrong music for the ball in disc 2
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:22:04 PM
No.11938125
>>11938142
>>11938120
>is not specific
As I thought, bot.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:28:31 PM
No.11938137
>>11938139
>>11938162
>>11938112
>two different people playing the game one time can end up with completely different impressions of the characters
You sound like the type of person that can't think. "Writers implied? I have to infer? Too much, I just want TikTok."
FF8 was a wonderful game and marvelous to play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHiHp-xHHgU
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:29:54 PM
No.11938139
>>11938137
>You sound like the type of person that can't think
True, because it's a chatbot. Big /vr/ problem.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:31:29 PM
No.11938142
>>11938146
>>11938125
you gotta be mean to Rinoa and exclude her until disc 2, then include her as much as possible starting in disc 2 especially in bringing her back to garden during the missile base segment. if you leave rinoa with selphie you can get an extra conversation between Squall and Rinoa when they meet again in FH, but then conversations in space and the end of disc 3 will make less sense.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:32:43 PM
No.11938146
>>11938142
>if you leave rinoa with selphie you can get an extra conversation between Squall and Rinoa when they meet again in FH
I guess this is a sort of tortured kind of "specific." You're still a bot, though.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:40:39 PM
No.11938162
>>11938206
>>11938137
you're being dense. I actually enjoy ff8 for actually expecting the players to read between the lines and infer. Seeing Squall's thoughts and not recognizing he's not supposed to be a perfect protagonist and is in fact a majorly messed up kid is a significant failure of most of FF8's critics. I'm just pointing out there's a lot of very worthwhile scenes between Squall&Rinoa that are skippable that really shouldn't have been skippable if the story wants to be fully coherent with itself. It's probably a consequence of the changes and cut content during development.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:00:37 PM
No.11938206
>>11938218
>>11938162
I'm happy to hear you actually enjoyed playing Final Fantasy VII.
But, when your own words are
>>11938112
>it's actually one of the biggest flaws of the story.
>that stuff shouldn't have been "optional"
>two different people...
>...dont' even see the same scenes in regards to rinoa+squall
I have to assume you're presenting a negative opinion of "exploring" or "replaying" a video game, especially a Role-Playing Game where its imperative you choose actions, party, dialogue, quests and other variables.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpfp5_5Xjms
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:06:33 PM
No.11938218
>>11938206
Nta but you're overreacting a bit. Chill, guys
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:08:05 PM
No.11938223
>>11938308
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:49:09 PM
No.11938308
>>11938223
>open door just leads to another puzzle
So good.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:55:33 PM
No.11938326
>>11938330
>>11938367
>take Rinoa back to Balamb Garden
>when Garden takes off and lands in the sea you go to the 2f floor to see what's happening
>special cutscene if Rinoa is with you
>do this on ePSXe in the mid-2000s
>cutscene doesn't play, game hangs
>search online when that used to be possible
>1000 results on that one emu site complaining about the exact same thing
>every thread has the same retard saying that it's not a ePSXe bug
>all the people with this problem are using the same corrupt pirated copy
>but that can't be true because I ripped my own disc
>we don't allow piracy so enjoy your ban, also thread locked
>10 years later
>ePSXe gets updated
>it was a bug after all
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:57:01 PM
No.11938330
>>11938371
>>11938326
Oh shit, bot-kun finally found what the fuck he was talking about!
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 9:10:55 PM
No.11938367
>>11938371
>>11938326
I feel sorry for people who only play pirated copies. You miss out.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 9:12:01 PM
No.11938371