Thread 11915131

Still the best sci-fi RPG of all time.

>>11915131 (OP)
How compelling, please face the wall now.

>>11915131 (OP)
Liara is the best waifu and has the best character arc across all three games.

>>11915131 (OP)
I wish we had the option to join Saren. Overall the choices in the game weren't bad especially for the time but it would've been cool to have the option to be evil instead of just slightly mean but still a goody two-shoes.

>>11915173
You misspelled Tali

>>11915131 (OP)
>Still the best sci-fi RPG of all time.
Well they did "borrow" from the best

>>11915187
It is funny in lair of the shadowbroker you can find out that she is masturbating to Shepard

Not retro.

>Open thread to game I haven't played
>Game just amounts to waifu wars
WRPGs, not even once.

>>11915131 (OP)
Not so fast bioshart fanboy

>>11915173
>t. BioWare shill

Retro...

>May 28, 2008
Not retro, zoomertranny

>>11915213
Who’s your fallout waifu? For me it’s Cass, I got that bitch walking around with her titties out.

>>11915220
I’m not a shill. Pirate their games if you want. Post EA BioWare is a skinwalking abomination.

>>11915240
It's Veronica obviously. I like me a girl with stars in her eyes and a pneumatic gauntlet on her hand.

>>11915265
She’s a lesbian anon

>>11915131 (OP)
keep trying

>>11915240
I never recruited anyone in the first Fallout game. I cleared the wasteland like a true lone ranger.

Fuck yeah, not even the sequel could match it, i replay it every year.

>>11915209
Okay, i will now your tv show.

>>11915131 (OP)
Atmosphere, worldbuilding, and writing are absolutely untouched. I really need to replay it.

>>11915293
Sequel went to heavy on the side quests. Why am I helping people with their personal issues when entire human colonies are disappearing?

>>11915173
I think she was most likely the writers favorite given how she was pushed hard on the player. She does have a nice character arc though and I like that she genuinely seems to love Sheppard the most compared to the other girls. Tali would be a close second though. I like Ash a lot as well but the writers did her dirty over the trilogy.

>>11915326
If anything, I feel the smaller-scale scenarios and general bumming around with the squadmates are a lot more fun than the overarching Reaper/Collector threat.

>>11915328
Miranda was the hottest, but they did her dirty too by making her a C tier side character in the third game. Her rebelling against Cerberus gave her a lot of potential to work with in the plot too.

>>11915326
I'm doing that shit right now it feels like whole game is padded with side quests. Genuinely feels like I'm playing proto swtor. It's still good but I'm so fucking over helping the companions

>>11915386
All the ME2 veterans were screwed over in 3. It felt like they really didn't know what to do with any of them.

Fuck scanning asteroid this sucks dick. At least in the first game you could throw on a podcast while exploring empty samey planet number 11 but this is just mind numbing

Want to upgrade your gear? Just spend 15 minutes going up and down on a sphere three times every time you play

>>11915395
I think Miranda’s voice actor got cast in a television show which cut her availability for the third game

>>11915424
They make it way easier in three

Fuck off back to /v/

>>11915276
Even better.

not retro >>>/v/

>>11915131 (OP)
PC version didn't come out till 2008. Please take this to >>>/vrpg/

>>11916062
Not to mention most people here talk about ME2 and 3 shit, which is even less retro.

Kill all zoomers

>>11915131 (OP)
It's a pity the trilogy as a whole didn't live up to this game. ME2 and ME3 certainly had their moments, but they didn't capture the adventure ME1 was.

In my opinion, Mass Effect should have been four games rather than a trilogy. An extra game could've helped a lot.

>>11916062
>>but it came out in 2007
I thought the “peecee always retro” was already a huge nonsense stretch but yeah this is insane. Otherwise, KotOR if it were a third-person-shooter.

>>11915386
Damn I forgot about how shit they treated Miranda in ME3. She isn't even a companion despite basically being the poster girl for the third game.

>>11915395
What's even more strange is that they brought in all these D list celeb characters like Freddy Prince to voice the most bland characters ever instead of using the established characters people loved in ME2. For better or worse ME2 really boosted the series' popularity so not giving ME2 fans any red meat was an odd decision.

>>11916601
>I forgot about how shit they treated Miranda in ME3
Mordin got closure on the whole genophage arc, Thane at least got to go out like a badass (even if it WAS against that faggot Kai Leng), but the best Miranda got was a total recycling of her ME2 sub-plot with saving her sister. They REALLY had no idea what to do with her.

And Vega was decent enough for a sudden debut character from nowhere, but he was definitely no Wrex or even Grunt.

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>>11916126
>NOOOOOOOOO this game that falls within the boards rules isn't retro because....well because! It needs to be played on CRT monitors and be pixelshit 2d to be retro! REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

>>11916632
Well, until this thread gets nuked, I'm enjoying having a Mass Effect thread that's not mindless like on /v/.

>>11916687
Even so, the game came out for a platform that was not launched in 2001 or earlier, and the PC release was beyond the December 2007 cutoff date. The PC bias here has been big here post-sitehack.
>a Mass Effect thread that's not mindless like on /v/.
There's some irony to this after (you)'ing and posting immediately after the thread's first basedjak.

>>11915131 (OP)
I just remember more time spent rolling up hills with the Mako than much else. The story really picked up to me towards the end, but ultimately the whole experience sort of reminds me of my favorite DOS game: Star Control 2. I do like it for having more role playing aspects than its more action heavy sequel (I have not played 3 yet), as there's no heat for guns so it still left aspects to the imagination like reloading a new whole slab for bits to be shaved off leaving the focus more on the role playing story. Its locales do leave a bit of wonder which adds to the magic, but I think the game still picked up after their experience in doing the KOTOR games.

>>11916062
PS3 and 360 are 20 years old, they are retro grandpa.

Jannies complete abandoned this board. Might as well start spamming nigger scat porn to chase these zoomer scum away

>>11916960
None of them is 20.

>>11915131 (OP)
Death Stranding 2 shits all over this game!

>>11917034
The hack utterly mindbroke them.

>>11915131 (OP)
StarCraft is way better!

>>11915293
sequel mogs it to oblivion

>>11917414
No, combat is slightly better while everything else is a massive downgrade

>>11917086
Good, this board had the worst jannies with maybe the exception of /ck/

>>11917414
In some ways...yeah. Illusive man was great and the story felt more relatable in the sense of fighting for humanity. Shame that the game is just a filler arc though. The cinematography also took a big hit and some of the gameplay tweaks were not that good. Things like making biotic powers only work on unshielded enemies made some classes feel gimped.

>>11916929
>I just remember more time spent rolling up hills with the Mako than much else.
I loved the Mako bits personally and wish they'd incorporated them into later games. It was always funny running over geth.

Gen 7 is allowed now?

>>11917794
It basically is since mods don’t feel like doing anything about it.

>I WANT /VR/ TO DISCUSS THE SAME GAMES AS /V/
Why are you like this?

Why is this thread still up?

>>11917870
>Why is this thread still up?
No idea especially when a new thread about Halo 3 just got nuked

I hope you know, this is the end of /vr/. They'll let unironic 7th gen threads and shit like that retard's "lol dude what do I play while high on coke?" stay up, which would have gotten deleted within an hour two years ago.

The funniest part is, they'll still delete Floigan threads. They literally hate a silly meme more than 7th gen and drug discussion.

>>11917924
They just deleted two non retro threads, janitors must like Mass Effect.

>>11917927
The jannies probably made this thread and are only deleting 7th gen threads they deem to be shitposts while allowing ones like this to persist as a way to normalize "legitimate" 7th gen discussion before they change the rules outright. I don't know what their angle is anymore. The site is half dead after the hack, maybe they're trying to encourage site traffic by letting as many zoomers in as possible. I don't know. I miss the /vr/ of 7-8 years ago. We thought babbages gramps and OoT shitposting was bad, now look at where we are.

>>11915217
base

>>11917924
7th gen is retro by now, I'm sorry you can't take it, millenial fag.
There are a lot of 30+ adults who played 7th gen in their childhood. Hell, it came 20 years ago. This board was created in 2013, and ps1 was first released in 1994-jan 1995, which is less than 20 years. See my point?

Die

>>11918438
/vr/ was made because discussions of older games too often got pushed off of /v/, which was especially bad before the integrated catalog view. Today, 7th gen games don't have this problem. You still see regular complete threads about Nu-Fallout, Minecraft, Dark Souls, as well as the consoles themselves. 7th gen will never be retro.

>>11918457
Most threads on /v/ are gachaslop, how long since you've been on /v/?
> 7th gen will never be retro
It already is.
5th gen wasn't retro 10 years after it started, btw.

>>11918469
Finna dust off my PS3 and play some quintessential retro classics like Dark Souls 2 and Black Ops

My favorite sci-fi game is Helldivers 2.

What? That game is retro. It came out last year gramps!

>>11918438
Can't wait to be discussing PS4 games on /vr/ in 7 years by this retarded logic.

>>11918597
If you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the concept, that doesn't make the logic retarded.
It's true that gen7 won't ever be retro FOR YOU, because you probably weren't a kid back then unless you're a zoomer hipster, in which case just kys. Just like gen5 probably isn't retro for some 50+yo geezer who remembers getting atari 2600 as a kid. It'd be easier for you if you accepted that "retro" is inherently a subjective term, and conventional doesn't equal The One Truth, and every attempt at defining it with absolute criteria is simply pathetic.
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>>11918561
Kek, keep seething.

>>11918619
Don't you like Helldivers 2? It's my favorite old game.

>>11918457
>Today, 7th gen games don't have this problem
Except for portables. Go ahead and start a thread about some random PSP game on /v/ let's see how that goes. No place to discuss PSP/DS unless it's something as big as Layton.

>>11918619
That's not how retro works, how many times do we have to explain this to you? Stop shitting up the board.
>>11918631
They don't really have that problem, make better threads. If current indie games don't get bumped that doesn't mean you can just post them here. There are multiple retarded boards for video games, vr doesn't need to be packed full of all this shit.

>>11918654
> That's not how retro works
That's exactly how retro works, and you've explained nothing to me, except this:
> that's not retro because... because it's not!
What you call "retro" is basically code for "games I and a bunch of other anons feel nostalgic about". I don't expect you to be able to argue with that, but do try.
> Stop shitting up the board
I'm not the one shitting it up though. Discussing what's retro or not doesn't seem off-topic when this board's very definition of "retro" has changed over time, lmao. Wasn't it 5th gen and older back then?

Let's discuss this retro classic.

>>11918686
I'm more of a Battlefield 4 guy myself.

>>11918619
"retro" doesn't mean "old" and it isn't subjective in the way you're claiming - you are too stupid to be pretending to be this serious

>>11917870
Because it's not against the rules?

>>11917924
How melodramatic. I'd rather see threads like this that talk about actual retro games with substance over shovelware NES games.

>>11918457
>7th gen will never be retro
Sorry grandpa but time moves on and the 7th gen is indeed retro.

>>11918664
Well put anon. None of these guys can even define retro and just want to gatekeep. To me retro primarily just means games made with hardware restrictions that influenced game design.

>>11918631
I'd be more than OK with allowing DS/PSP discussions here. Hell, I think the date limit for those systems, along with the PS2, should be 2010, and not December 2007.
PC on the other hand, I think the limit should be dialed back to 2006 or even 2005, because with the current rules, we get far too much crossover with the 360 and PS3.
>>11918741
"Retro" as a general concept IS subjective, but this board's rules aren't. They're based on the subjective interpretation of "retro" of the people who wrote them, but as they stand they're set in stone.

>>11918741
Well, I am smarter than you at least, since you're unable to produce any counter-argument except "reee, no". Keep seething, it's amusing.
Come on, you've had a lof of chances to tell me what's REAL retro and why.
>>11918750
> retro primarily just means games made with hardware restrictions that influenced game design
That would be a lot of games, like those moments in TLoU where you move boxes for Ellie to hide loading time. Can't think of a more recent example off the top of my head.

>>11918840
> as they stand they're set in stone
Just like they were set in stone until the stone cracked to allow 6th gen?
I mean, some dedicated 6-7gen board would be dead as fuck, but discussing anything in gacha centrals /v/ and /vg/ is pure suffering regardless.

>>11915209
Didn't know they drew inspiration from this show. I might check it out.

>>11915131 (OP)
This shit has been up for two days. I have zero interest in discussing modern movie games. If the jannies here aren't even willing to do their jobs then maybe it's finally time to give up on this place.

>>11918917
> modern
> 18 years old
It's older than you, anon.

You can feel the mods desperation by this guy spamming the same posts everytime since that 7th gen thread of two weeks ago.

>>11918924
The infantile 'LOL, ZOOMER' shit around here has been stale for years. You're not funny or imaginative and you're not owning anyone, so give it a rest.

the normandy is well designed, something that's so rare in scifi games

>>11915240
>Who’s your fallout waifu?
Cait from 4 despite 4 sure as fuck not being retro.
>>11915276
Who doesn't love post-nuclear yuri anon?
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>>11916062
"The Xbox 360 was released on November 22, 2005, while the PlayStation 3 (PS3) was released on November 11, 2006, in Japan, and November 17, 2006, in North America. The PS3 was later released in Europe and other PAL territories on March 23, 2007." Hate to burst your bubble anon.

>>11918991
If Mass Effect was 360 exclusive, it wouldn't be "board rules retro" according to your post and >>11702620
The part I'm confused about now:
>and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted).
I was under the impression that PC ports can't be any later than 2007 as well, but apparently the PC port can be from any year as long as the game wasn't made any later than 2007...?

>>11918991
Can't find the archive link, but picrel: >>1392415
So how long till 7th gen is allowed too, your guess?

>>11918991
For a lot people retrogames aren't defined by some arbitrary sliding date, it's a distinct style of gaming characterized by technological limitations, the influence of arcades, restricted internet access, an infant industry where small teams produced the big titles of the day on limited budgets, a lack of standardization in hardware with different platforms having very distinct look and feel as a result. Games of the late 2000s are old but for the most part they play more similarly to contemporary titles than they do to the games of the 80s and 90s.

>>11919058
There it is.
Oh, I guess it'll happen when 10th gen starts.

>>11919062
You make sense, but this line I disagree with:
> for the most part they play more similarly to contemporary titles than they do to the games of the 80s and 90s
There's a lot more in common between, say, Dead Space 2 and OG Silent Hill, than between Silent Hill and atari 2600 games, yet both SH and those are retro.
The rest I can agree with, but this millenia's indie scene kind of fits the description, even excluding wannabe-retro games. One could simply say "retro is gaming industry before normies", but that's also really arbitrary.

>>11918917
You realize you have the option to just not read the thread right? If you're such a snowflake maybe you should just leave since you seem to be looking for things to be outraged about like a lot of other anons in the thread.

>>11918965
It is. Certainly one of the most memorable ship designs out there.

>>11915131 (OP)
I always liked the grenades in ME1. It was a cool idea to make them kinda like Frisbee that you throw and can detonate in midair. Never saw anything quite like that. The overheating system was also cool and added some strategy when going into a gunfight.

>>11919058
>visiting drama subreddits
>visiting drama subreddits to discuss 4channel rules

>>11915131 (OP)
OP here I meant Knights of the Old Republic 1 but I accidentally clicked the wrong image

Sorry about that ;^)

>>11919373
> visiting
Calm your tits, I merely asked chatgpt to give me a link to the old board rules, and it delivered. I included a screencap to show that the new rules are at most 5yo.
>>11919376
I'm glad the era of shitty "PnP games but in REAL TIME" has passed.