>Maki, Yun, Eagle, and Ingrid have been hacked into Alpha 3 Upper.
>The different fighting styles from the DC port of Alpha 3 have been hacked into Alpha 3 Upper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpkKhAJoFz4

Hey remember SFA3? Well, Capcom just released the definitive edition of the game.

That's cool. But now give it to me as a CPS2 ROM instead of a bloated 4GB install with DRM.

>>11915457
>not even understanding what Alpha 3 Upper is, let alone Alpha 3 MAX

You should be asking for a Dreamcast GDI, technically.

I understand perfectly well what they are. I'm saying if it doesn't run in Kawaks I don't care. Otherwise these features and more have been in Mugen for decades.

>>11915463
Supposedly Alpha 3 Upper in every form has always had a modicum of input latency until the CFC2 release but I don't know how true that is.

>the input lag is soul

>>11915457
>NO! HOW DARE YOU GIVE EVERYONE A FREE CONTENT UPDATE ON SEVERAL GAMES! GIVE ME LE HECKIN ROM TO PIRATE AND MAYBE PLAY WITH THE 5 OTHER PEOPLE AVAILABLE INSTEAD OF THE HUGE PLAYERBASE OFFICIAL RELEASES PROVIDE!
k

c-can they put the missing characters in vsav already then?

>>11915481
Threesome with Lilith and Q-Bee.

>>11915473
>Supposedly Alpha 3 Upper in every form has always had a modicum of input latency until the CFC2 release but I don't know how true that is.
That is not true. I have tested and detailed my findings on this subject here before. In short the Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper for Matching Service on the Dreamcast, which is distinct from the earlier "saikyo dojo" release, does not have the additional lag found in the arcgade and aforementioned "saikyo dojo" release. The lag in the "for Matching Service" version is identical to the cps2 arcade.

>>11915356 (OP)
meanwhile powerstone 1 and 2 are the arcade versions, which makes no sense

>>11915528
Street Fighter Zero 3 CPS2 - 3
Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper (Naomi) - 5
Street Fighter Zero 3 Saikyo Dojo JPN - 4
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Saikyo Dojo USA - 4
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Saikyo Dojo PAL - 4
Street Fighter Zero 3 Saikyo Dojo For Matching Service JPN - 3

>>11915535
It's supposed to be an arcade collection.

That's why Alpha 3 has no World Tour or Dramatic Battle mode.

>>11915506
threesome with morrigan and midnight bliss jedah.

>>11915561
>arcade collection
>just added psp characters to arcade

>>11915356 (OP)
LMAO ALPHA 3 MAX IS CANON
DENIERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>11915613
Yeah...well...

>>11915356 (OP)
Pretty sure this is mainly because of Ingrid getting dredged up for SF6.

>>11915356 (OP)
Bet every retard who bought the Anniversary Collection feels retarded lmao
>>11915457
Holy fucking retard. More proof this place is dumber than /v/
>>11915613
If you want an overpriced collection of unadulterated MAME roms, get pic related.

>>11915457
Nigga, you had almost 20 years to play Alpha 3 MAX on a stupid defunct handheld or on a emulator.
At least the new update will bring more people to finally play more of Alpha 3, not the 12 negroes on Fightcade.

That's cool but where's the PC port?

>2025
>I
>am
>Forgotten

>>11915680
That's not much of a game.

>>11915675
>>11915680
Volume 3.

>>11915675
In the trash where Udon slop belongs.

Alpha 2 is still the best tho

>>11915675
Never. Make savings for inevitable Omega Street Fighter II for Nintendo Switch 2 which adds a new character Ruthless Chun-Li.

>>11915790
Alpha 2 puts me to sleep

>>11915790
Based A2 enjoyer

>>11915790
Why not both?

Arcade SFA3 is based. A3 Max is a glorified mugen game at this point. It will never be a tournament standard.

>>11915832
I play both but like Alpha 2 more. Thank God it is not exploited by nu Capcom like Alpha 3 is. I don't want zoomers and normies in my community

>>11915840
>not wanting more players to play against

Frankly Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection needs to get replaced, supplanted, something, I dunno. These in-house collections are getting better and better, and with MK Legacy Kollection going out of their way to do shit like "Hey here's MK Trilogy with the loading cut down", it makes me want to see a PROPER compilation of the entire SF series prior to 4. The arcade releases, the numerous home releases, shit like SNES SFA2, GBA SFA3, the PC Engine port of SF2 Champion Edition, shitty handheld versions, the works.

>>11915836
I'm not interested in playing vanilla SFA3 27 years after release.

>>11915356 (OP)
>hacked
Might not have been. I'm not sure if these ports are done by emulation or are built from the original source code to make a true port. These aren't CPS2 games using assembly language or C. It would be C++, and preserved by Capcom (I know this for a fact) for future ports. People have been assuming it's emulation but I haven't seen a confirmation of that.

>>11915876
Honestly not sure myself. I'm digging through CFC2 files this moment now that you got me thinking about it, the sound gallery stuff is all its own files of .sngw, the Capcom Fighting Evolution opening videos are strangely .mp4s in the files on their own, and everything of the game files themselves are stored in .arc files. With no real knowledge of how all that works, it doesn't look like simple roms at least but either spread across a certain file format for reading and editing things efficiently, or some bizarre non-emulation ports.

>>11915861
>the numerous home releases, shit like SNES SFA2, GBA SFA3, the PC Engine port of SF2 Champion Edition, shitty handheld versions, the works.

There's always complications to these things, and little bits of code or whatever might be owned or co-owned by some old company that might not even exist anymore. When the rights to the original Cotton were bought by Beep they couldn't just slap on the music from The PC-Engine CD version, even though they own the rights to the composition. But not the specific arrangement from the Hudson soft port. That requires more work with a new party, which means more complication, more cost, so why bother? It's usually easier to just make a new version of the music than to deal with that.

>>11915885
>>11915876
You can use ArcTool to unpack the .arc files and find the exact roms they used for the collection and even modify them a bit through PalMod with no issue.

So there's definitely emulation involved in some form. How they're cramming all this new stuff in them is anyone's guess.

>>11915626
No it isn't. If it were, then Yun would be a time traveler.

>>11915457
you would already be hours deep into a3 on fightcade if you actually cared

>>11916417
i whole heartedly believe yun is cancerous enough to discover time travel just so he can annoy the fuck out of everyone

>>11915824
Clayton...

>>11915356 (OP)
>- No Experience? No Problem!
>This collection boasts a number of beginner-friendly features such as adjustable difficulty levels, **One Button Specials**, and training modes.
How does this work with charge moves? Does it just let you spam them at an otherwise "illegal" timing?

>>11916417
This is just misinformation that's been passed around the internet. Show me exactly where Yun and Yang have stated ages at certain times. And show me exactly where it says certain games are certain years apart.

>>11915670
You're smoking more crack than the negroes if you think people are suddenly going to play this game. And I'm not talking about 40 year olds party mashing through some CPUs

>>11915481
For all the complaining I see about this, I never see anyone actually give a shit about Pyron, Donovan and Phobos.

>>11916119
>You can use ArcTool to unpack the .arc files and find the exact roms they used for the collection and even modify them a bit through PalMod with no issue.
You know this specifically for this CFC2 release?

>>11915356 (OP)
Was thinking of buying this until
>70 active players on Steam right now

Given my location that means maybe 2-3 of them would be close enough to have a good game.

>>11917263
I literally main Huitzil/Phobos in the Saturn version of VSav. I'd like him in the arcade version too.

>>11916476
You don't get to do them in Ranked, basically.

I think Maki is really cool as a character. I like her design a lot, but unfortunately she kind of sucks gameplaywise.

>>11915356 (OP)
So how good are the four new characters on the tier list?
Is there even a consensus on them at all?

drip feeding content
>no balance patch
They know that player retention in fighting games is poor, and it's even worse in older games. I don't believe the hype

>>11917413
>>no balance patch
Zero 3 Upper is rebalanced from vanilla alpha 3. So it *is* the balance patch. It's largely unexplored from a competitive point of view.

>>11916615
>>11916417
Yeah, Yun and Yang are twins who are either late teens or early 20s in SFIII which takes place a decade after the other games. So by the time of Alpha 3, Yun and Yang should be like 5? This only works if Yun/Yang are like in their 30s in SF3 which no one would agree with.

>>11916417
>>11917475
He has a non-canon appearance in a canon game. Just a bonus character.

>>11917413
>drip feeding content
I don't think you realize how these collections work. Besides things like secret characters, flash reduction, and things like EO as a choice patch for CvS2 or fan backlash making them put up the X-Men vs. Street Fighter version that had more infinites after it was absent at launch, these games mostly only get changes for the sake of certain sexual or licensed content (a certain Darkstalkers ending removed due to nudity, a certain Midnight Bliss transformation removed because it was Enya from Jojo). These things get released, and that's just sort of "it", there is no content to dripfeed because they're supposed to be collections as is.

The fact that the Alpha 3 MAX/GBA characters are being added in is, effectively, unprecedented for any of these sorts of emulation collections. It's clearly to advertise Ingrid's return in SF6, but collections rarely make substantial changes to actual game content unless absolutely necessary, never mind adding new characters into the game assets despite them ostensibly being arcade emulation. So Capcom literally hacked character data from an old PSP port into an arcade game, somehow.

>>11915463
>Mugen
you're fucking retarded.

>>11915670
the collection is already dead and this shit ain't bringing anyone back

>>11915861
The people who did SF 30th Collection are the ones doing the MK collection
don't get your hopes up

>>11917484
SOMEHOW being the keyword here.

it is a well known fact that companies rarely, IF EVER, keep the source code to their games, in order to be able to modify a naomi game with the content of a later version from an entirely different platform, you would need the source code of BOTH Versions. and if THAT is even the case, then why the fuck not port MAX to the collection instead of making a rom?

>>11916476
They automatically do charge for it's actual length.
So Guile will walk back for a bit and do the sonic boom.

>>11917514
>and if THAT is even the case, then why the fuck not port MAX to the collection instead of making a rom?
Arcade collection focus I guess, same reason why Power Stone 1&2 doesn't have the PSP version interactivity that allowed the 2 characters to be used in 1. But this does raise questions, like precisely what source code is lying around since it's now becoming apparent they do have some lying around from at least the PSP and Naomi/Dreamcast eras after all.

>>11917475
Are you fucking retarded? I just finished saying have proof because all their is is misinformation on the internet and you literally fire back with repeating the same shit that's been repeated for decades now with no citation. There's absolutely no way you're this dumb.

>>11917537
SF4 was the first street fighter to do away with actual dates for shit
at release, SF3 canonically happens in 97 through 99
obviously that's no longer the case but it IS a fact that SFA happens before SF2 and SF4/SFV take place after that and before SF3, thats many years worth of shit and Yun and Yang are clearly young men in SF3

>>11917537
third strike takes place long enough after SF2 for Ken's kid to be conceived, born, and be of age to start training martial arts
Alpha takes place before SF2
it's not that hard to figure out anon

>>11917281
Yes, I tested it out myself. And since each of these collections were done in MT Framework, the same method of extracting content works for each of them.

The ROMs themselves are encrypted, though, so you can't really use them on any other emulators.

>>11917548
Proof!

>>11917553
>third strike takes place long enough after SF2 for Ken's kid to be conceived, born, and be of age to start training martial arts
At least that's something.

>>11917567
>prove common knowledge from that era because i'm a zoomer
sometimes I really hate this board

>>11916615
SF1, SF2, SF3 were all set in the year of their initial edition's release (except 3rd strike which is a year after 2nd impact)
Alpha is between SF1 and 2 so whatever Yun's age in 3rd Strike he'd be like a decade younger in Alpha
what >>11917475 said is basically correct

>>11917570
>muh common sense fallacy
I know this shit too, the difference between you and I is I'm smart enough to question it. "Where did it start?" Nowhere? It's bullshit.

>>11917578
Prove it.

>>11917578
>>11916615
Floating timelines came later. When SF1-2 were released they were portrayed as taking place when they were released because when else would they? They even gave definitive ages for the SF2 cast, and in 1997 Ryu would be 31, Ken 32, and Chun-li 29 which completely fits the story which is about how old they are and how they're passing the torch to the new generation.

Yun-Yang ARE the new generation that the old geezer cast are supposed to be passing the torch to and those two specifically have the characteristics of 90s teenagers.

However, SF3 was a bomb, so they shifted to a moving timeline and vague time gaps. All the games take place "now", but what "now' means shifts with new games. The gaps between game development also means like 6 years between games, meaning you can't have them age up that much anymore.

So the way it works out:

>SF1 - 1987
>Alpha games - gap between 1-2
>SF2 - 1991
>SF3 - 1997

Let's say Yun-Yang are 19 in 1997, and say Alpha 3 is like 1989? They would be 11. That's being very generous too. I legitimately think Yun-Yang are supposed to be outright teenagers, so like 15.

On top of that they're based on Gundam Wing characters who were canonically 15.

>>11917602
So 15 in 1997 = birth date of 1982. Literally little kids in alpha timeline.

>>11917602
15 is fair because they're prodigies, Sakura was a teenager in Alpha 2 & 3 after all, but people act like they're factually tiny babby kids in SFA3M and therefore that version is impossible.

>>11917625
Also, remember how age is treated in Japanese media. Auron the aged veteran battle-monk with greying hair who acts like a mentor to the main characters? He's 35!

The original plan as of SF3 was to transition the old SF2 cast into these kind of old mentor figure characters and to pass the torch to characters like Yun-Yang and Sean.

>>11917592
yeah everybody who was there knows it because we all independently hallucinated the same thing.
fucking retard.

>>11917663
Then I'm sure it's super easy to prove, and you can just show me up. :)

funny how proveitfag was all over this thread like a fly on shit until someone finally spoonfed him the proof of what everybody else already knew was true

>>11917557
Have you been able to extract the data and play it in an emulator with the new characters?

>>11917678
He proved my point. Just take the L.

>>11917678
The thing is that current Capcom pretends it was always a floating timeline, when it was obvious they didn't plan that out. It's only a consquence of III bombing and IV being released like a decade later.

They most likely thought they'd be releasing new SF games every few years, likely every console generation, and had storylines planned for the new characters that went nowhere. Sean got the raw end of the stick, as I am sure they were gonna have him being a loser who mans up and becomes a cool hardened fighter in a decade of gaming. But alas: he's a joke in the only game he's in.

>>11917602
>When SF1-2 were released they were portrayed as taking place when they were released because when else would they?
this is the key point honestly. they weren't presented as games taking place in the future or the past, why would you assume they took place any time but the year they released? throw in character birthdays that put Chun-li in her early 20s, Ryu and Ken mid-to-late 20s, Guile at 31 in 1991, what more you asking for?

>>11917695
>he's a joke in the only game he's in.
why speak from ignorance? Sean was so good in 2I that he got nerfed into the ground in 3S. He wasnt bad in NG either.

>>11915356 (OP)
Why not just use the PSP port instead?

>>11917339
>>11917518
Makes sense.

>>11917776
It'd likely be much harder to add rollback online to that.

>>11915356 (OP)
>The different fighting styles from the DC port of Alpha 3 have been hacked into Alpha 3 Upper.
The what now?

>>11919835
Nothing's documenting this regularly, I had to gleam it from a GameFAQs post. Basically mode/rule select stuff.

>>11919913
OP is a retard, these things were all part of the original arcade release of SFA3. You just had to put in a code to use them

Can't wait til they add in Hyper's Shadaloo-isms.

I think it's pretty fucking cool that Capcom created a complete version of Alpha 3 with this update. You can now play versus mode locally with exclusive characters from the PSP version. I don't think I've seen such a patch for a classic title done in such a way before.

>>11920116
Come to think of it, it's missing World Tour mode, but you know what I mean. Most feature rich I guess.

>>11915535
>>11917530
>>11917514
The fact that Alpha 3 got its PSP exclusive content but NOT Power Stone 1 & 2 tells me that Capcom probably doesn't have the source code for the Power Stone collection despite still having Alpha 3 MAX's code.
Why would that even be the case? They're both ports from Dreamcast/NAOMI to the PSP released in the exact same time period. Did they just view A3M as "more valuable to save" or something?

>>11917567
ibuki wears air max 95s in her win pose

>>11921117
>ibuki wears air max 95s in her win pose

>>11921102
what exclusive content does stone psp have?

>>11921739
Being able to play the newcomers from the second game in the first 1 and the cut characters from 1 in 2.