Thread 11923518

What's the best Pokémon game ?

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>>11923518 (OP)
Everyone will just say the one they played first

>>11923523
>visions from a better world

>>11923518 (OP)
You need to be either a child or retarded to enjoy the mainline games. Pic related and its sequel are the only ones that are fun as an adult.

>>11923518 (OP)
G/S/C and I'm not apologetic about it.
Pros:
The art style is great better then RBY in my humble opinion.
250 pokemon (including my boys Cyndaquil, Gligar and Steelix)
Actually have a chance at catching them all,
Night and Day cycle meaning when it's dark outside it's dark in the pokemon world too,
Johto is a legitimately awesome region, well thought out and leans hard into Shinto and Buddhist themes,
16 Gyms,
The whole (well mostly) of Kanto to explore as "post game"
And that fight with Red is aces.

Cons:
Kinda the start of the meme-legendaries (2 box legendaries, 3 dogs, 3 birds, potential for mew and mew-two, and potential for Celebi),
16 Gyms, at least 12 of them are easy mode (L40 and below),
Elite Four are okay but Lance is awful,
Not really seeing all of Kanto due to size limits, still better for being there than absent.

>>11923534
This and Pokemon Snap

>>11923523
Back then I would have sold all my Sega stuff in order to afford a 64 with a true 3d Pokemon.

>>11923518 (OP)
Retro? Easily GSC

>>11923525
Played Yellow first but I prefer Crystal for the animated sprites

>>11923525
Played runy first then FR then Red then Crystal

Gen 2 is the best no contest

>>11923523
They were two decades late with this shit. I can't believe it. That would have sold so many N64's. Kids across the globe were so ready for a 3D Pokemon at that time.

>>11923525
Eh, I started with Red and Yellow but loved Gold.
I haven't really played any of the others until White.

>>11923534
I wish pokemon TCG videogames were a regular thing. The interface on the GB is way too limited. Yugioh played great on the GBA, pokemon could have done the same.

>>11923523
link????

>>11923534
It was unironically really fun. I remember discovering this on emulation in the mid 2000's and being absolutely surprised at how good it was. Back then no one was talking about it, I just randomly found it while scrolling through a huge list of ROMs I had pirated. I got hooked and played through from start to finish. The only Gameboy game I have ever finished apart from Pokemon Red and Legend of the River King

>>11923518 (OP)
For /vr/, Emerald with the Revelation hack. For me, Platinum.

Green

The first three gens are all great for their own reasons and are all worth replays and trying for a complete dex in.
Even though RBY is so buggy, I think they’re probably actually the best.

>>11923518 (OP)P
Pokémon Girls Hunter 3 ಠ_ಠ

>>11923518 (OP)
Pokémon Girls Hunter 3 ಠ_ಠ

>>11923518 (OP)
Gen 2

>>11923523
...wait is this a real thing?

>>11923686
It would have been a killer app bigger than FF7.

>>11923518 (OP)
it is not-retro. pokemon bw1.
i liked it because it felt fresh having no known pokemon until post-game.

>>11923523
Ash needs to lay off the fried magikarp.

>>11924614
It was planned, there was some development, but it was ultimately cancelled.

>>11925076
Shut up.

>>11923518 (OP)
LeafGreen was the first time I was disappointed with a GB release. If I wanted to play gen1 again I would just play gen1.

I like every other pokemon game on GB to play them again and again.

>>11925489
No

>Pokemon 64
GAHAHAHA. They were probably like,
>Ano, Miyamoto-san, look at this 3D Pikachu I made, it can wag its tail and jump
>O-okay desu,.... what about the other 149??
>Uhhhhh... this took 3 months to make Miyamoto-sama sumimasen!!

>>11926410
Should've let Hudson handle it.

>>11923523
That looks more like a PS1 or shitty Dreamcast game. Nowhere near enough vaseline smear.

>>11924470
>>11923535
Never played gen 2. Start with gold, silver, or Crystal?

>>11926853
You had to be there. You won't enjoy it as much as you think you will. But Crystal

>>11923518 (OP)
It's objectively not the best but I'm biased towards FRLG. Something about the color palette and the abandoned state the region is in make it feel really quiet and atmospheric to me. Over the years it has become my favorite.

>>11926853
Crystal with one of those vanilla romhacks that let you complete the pokedex.

>>11923518 (OP)
Emerald.

>>11923518 (OP)

Red, followed by Gold. All other answers are wrong. Blue's color palette is too blue. Yellow has ugly soulless sprites. Silver has shit sprites although Lugia having aeroblast is cool. Crystal has dumb pokemon animations when entering battle and neither legendary bird get their signature moves. Gold has the best sprites. Red has best color palette. Gen3 is mediocre so I won't address it.

>>11927536
silver sprites are the best though

>>11927536
Trash opinion lul

>>11926853
As a kid I would have said Silver or Gold (whichever your friends didn't have) as an adult, Crystal.
I don't mind Crystal Clear these days but it's definitely a departure from vanilla, and there's bound to be other romhacks that deliver on the ability to catch them all without the other changes Clear makes.

>>11923518 (OP)
>the second (2nd) most interesting plot/story
>the best pacing
>the best graphics
>the best group of town themes
>the best group of battle themes
>the best opening and ending theme
>the best soundfont
>the best competitive foundation and the best balancing
>the best movedex
>satisfactory technical progression
>the best performance
>the best extracurricular activities and "sidequests"
>the best postgame facilities
>the best character designs
>the best isolated dex
>the best region and map design
>the best level design
>the best encounter design (though missing mons)
>the best cover
>the most sought after and expensive cartridge
>the best looking cartridge
>best spinoffs
>best companion remakes

>>11924614
It's the Duke Nukem Forever of Nintendo games.

>>11923535
>250 pokemon
but you wont encounter a huge amount of them because they are either low percentage encounters or locked behind doing everything else
also gen 2 was the first gen where completing the deck was completely turned to shit (unless you count yellow were you needed trades from both other versions lol)
friendship evolutions are a huge grind if you want to do it and all you can really do is grind the elite 4 dozens and dozens of times for exp
getting the baby pokemon requires tons of box manipulation which sucks not to mention the grind of actually getting the egg to spawn and then hatching it
requires both the fossile pokemon from gen 1 so minimum 1.5 playthroughs required of that on top of the 2 for gen 2

sure you could say that you arent meant to complete the dex but i always found it unsatisfying as a kid knowing i would never be able to complete it unless i bought another gameboy and multiple other games to trade with myself

>>11927536
Holy bad taste.

>>11927935
>requires both the fossile pokemon from gen 1 so minimum 1.5 playthroughs required of that on top of the 2 for gen 2
Also the Kanto starters and Legendaries.

>>11927962
true but the starters are pretty easy to get because you can trade quite early and the legendaries are fair because you can get them all in one playthrough
the it takes several hours to get to the part where you get the fossile pokemon and ofc thats several hours of braindead mash a combat which you will already have been doing for like 50 hours at that point

>>11927660
At this point, you could easily make your own hack of Crystal or any of the Gen1-3 Pokemon games. The disassemblies are all on github and have ample instructions for basic editing of tables.

>>11927935
I said you'd have a chance at catching them all, I personally don't care to, but each time I play I try and make sure that I have a different party. My most recent was something like Ninetails, Blastoise, Tyranitar, Bellossom, Hitmonlee, and Hypno, and like a total dex size of about 60 caught.
One of my mates it is super important to be able to "catch em all", but not really me.
>>11928007
I probably could, you're right. I actually use those to look at how they made the sprites for sprite work I put in my little games.

>>11928043
thats cool and probably the best way to play i just think its sucks that they couldnt manage to make the experience of catching them all fun (especially considering the combat is so shallow unless you severely limit yourself so it would be much better with a bigger focus on hunting and catching mons)

>>11923525
I played red first, but the best are Crystal and then Yellow. gen 2 was peak

>>11923518 (OP)
For retro, I'd say Emerald. Overall, I think Platinum and B2W2 outclass it in certain areas like balancing but Emerald still has the best endgame content with its Battle Frontier thought and is still my favorite game to replay.

GSC is pretty fucking bad and carried entirely by nostalgia.
The distribution of Pokemon is horrible, the level curve shits itself after the third gym, most of the fights in the game are extremely underwhelming with most gyms and Elite 4 not even using Pokemon introduced in Gen 2, Johto itself is by far the most boring region of the first 5 gens with most routes being small and just grass, Kanto amounts to nothing more than a boring boss rush because half the region was gutted and the wild life encounters have their levels in the teens making them borderline useless, etc. Gen 2 is complete dogshit.

>>11930321
The distribution of pokemon is okay, you just suck at finding them and want them handed them out to you for free instead of exploring for them.

There's no problem witht the level curve either, never had to grind in gen 2.

>>11930321
>I think Platinum and B2W2 outclass it in certain areas like balancing
absolutely not

>>11930328
>The distribution of pokemon is okay
a third of the dex is postgame
garbage like dunsparce is needlessly rare
the type distribution is awful, enjoy having 1 available dark type

it’s easily the worst dex in the series
>There's no problem witht the level curve either
LOL

>>11931527
NTA, it's fucking terrible. It's the only Pokemon game I had back then, and I can still admit that

>>11931527
>garbage like dunsparce is needlessly rare
A pokemon named "dunsparce" is sparse? Who would've thought.

>>11931527
>there is post-game
Good
>Rare pokemon =/= good pokemon
Yes that's the point of the game, not every pokemon is supposed an OU machine, some are rare pokemon for you to find and work to make the game more difficult if you want to use them.
>a rare new type is rare!
Okay?
>the level curve is bad
Why? Because you fight the league in early 40's instead of early 50's?

>>11933236
I froth gen 2, but I do think the level curve is a bit lacklustre, but when I say that I mean that Morty, Chuck, and Price can be done in any order, meaning they all have middling pokemon levels. It's the trade off for a more open experience, and a worthwhile one for me anyway.
Then there's a few other things like Jasmine's Steelix using Sunny Day and having zero follow up with it, it's just a little easy.

>>11933716
If anyone at gamefreak hard a brain the other leaders of that trio would gain levels during
the 'time' you were getting the other badge. Evolutions wouldn't be off the table either.

>>11931527
>>11931964
Dunsparce be decent in GSC early game doh

>>11923518 (OP)
black and white 2

>>11933973
or conquest and XD

>>11923535
>Actually have a chance at catching them all
How do I catch Celebi?

>>11923518 (OP)
yellow for novelty, crystal for feels/aesthetic, emerald for post game

>>11923535
>Actually have a chance at catching them all,
I only take umbrage with this point, because gen 2 is actually one of the generations where it's impossible to catch them all within the same gen.

>>11923525
I was just going to ignore the thread like i usually do. My favorite isn't gen 2, btw.