Thread 11925493

What's the best tool to dump floppy disks?
KryoFlux, AppleSauce, or GreaseWeazle?
Does anyone have experience dumping with Pauline?
How much does it cost?

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i always used explorer.exe

>>11925493 (OP)
>What's the best tool to dump floppy disks?
The one that's best at dumping the disks you want to dump for the purpose you want them dumped.
>Does anyone have experience dumping with Pauline?
No, but I have experience with the projects it's based on
>How much does it cost?
Depends that "it" is

>>11925493 (OP)
>start
>run
>a:
>drag and drop files
Am i missing something or is OP big dumb?

>>11926323
The only part you're missing is where it's you that's the "big dumb"

>>11925493 (OP)

Does this sort of thing give you nightmares?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Portable%EF%BC%8CFloppy-Computer-Accessory-Removable/dp/B099PVQVWQ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.22Gj1nqd40z-hShzYUzPHuikwcunIe_Vciuxb1fMKa-YaZ9bD1slJu3VRe-bsLKKHJet54_Vaz0dfZz3hqQFhlWtBaEWZ5knewxgEyqf0S2y_V-aVVibFZULJyGkVak7H8QoidxAeK-nTy3YNq5rJCnadiPDCjF5B7_T7KwBQKCGoqZDrFZ0z1Y4dtuVycOgNtWIKxy9DO-mWevExYjixuvD5xg4K_zYwS15jEnsRgA.niU_Vfa3oY9f4OksgW4F2k7bs6LAZbuM_lbeEUj5KvI&dib_tag=se&keywords=Floppy+Disk+Reader&qid=1754585479&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

>>11926290
>The one that's best at dumping the disks you want to dump for the purpose you want them dumped.
Standard IBM PC floppies.

>>11928081
>Standard IBM PC floppies.
Oh, in that case it should be easy. Just use diskcopy to copy from one 5.25 to the other. Lucky you don't have an XT with a HDD and only one floppy as that's more work.

>>11928081
just copy the files that are on the disk? A floppy doesn't need to be "dumped" like other media. It's just a FAT volume with standard files sitting on it. You can copy them to whatever folder/volume/device you want them in and they'll run the same.

>>11926431
it seems like OP is looking for this but is a total secondary and stumbled blind into those niche boomer computing projects

>>11925493 (OP)
Dump the disk how exactly? Do you just want it's files? Do you want to image the disk? Do you want to preserve the disk itself, especially in a system that might not be able to read/write to the disk natively?

>>11925517
>i always used explorer.exe
If you are going to use a modern Windows system make sure to set the disk to write-protected before trying to read it, modern versions of Windows will attempt to write that stupid ass "System Volume Information" folder to the disk the second you try to access it.

>>11926431
The only part of an Amazon URL you need is the /dp/ and the item number after it, the rest is useless tracking information.

Also I generally recommend against those, they are shit and tend to have problems with anything that's not a standard 1.44MB disk, many will even have issues with 720K disks.

For a cheap option on reading 3.5 IBM disks get yourself a Dell MPF82E or FDDM-101. You can generally get them cheaper than the ones you find on Amazon, and since they were an actual floppy drive from back when people were still using floppies they aren't the barely working cheap crap you find on Amazon. They were intended to be an internal floppy drive for a specific model line of Dell laptops, but they have a Mini-USB port on them and can be used as an external USB floppy drive.

>>11928081
3.5 inch or also 5.25? If just 3.5 then see above about the Dell drive, make sure to write protect the disks before accessing them, and then it depends if you just want to get the files off of them or dump an image of the disk.

>>11928478
Disks can contain data that does not appear as standard files, as well as bootloaders. Just simply copying the files through explorer or a standard commandline won't copy that if it's needed.

>>11928485
Sounds like it. Devices such as KryoFlux or GreaseWeazle are for advanced users that need to create perfect clones of the very structure of the disks, as well as for more obscure formats.

>>11928571
>Devices such as KryoFlux or GreaseWeazle are for advanced users that need to create perfect clones of the very structure of the disks, as well as for more obscure formats.
That's exactly what I want to do.

>>11929136
You can just use a regular floppy drive and something like dd for anything PC

How did you even find these things? Have you ever used a floppy drive?

>>11929142
>You can just use a regular floppy drive and something like dd for anything PC
So, those specialised tools cannot be used with regular IBM PC floppies?

>>11929158
there is no need for them and you're not preserving anything i can't already download

>>11929205
So, why do they exist, then? They must do something that regular disk drives alone cannot do.

>>11929208
They're for more obscure stuff, not regular PC floppies you'd buy at a store in the 90s.

>>11929214
Can they be used with regular PC floppies or not?

>>11929216
A PC floppy drive is all (You) will ever need, according to >>11928081

>>11929220
That doesn't answer the question.

>>11929225
What you want to do is copy PC floppies.

What you need for that is a regular floppy drive.

Do you even have the disks?

>>11929232
Okay, given the fact that you keep refusing to say either Yes or No, I'll going to stop wasting my time.

>>11929236
You don't even have the diskettes lol

>>11928571
>The only part of an Amazon URL you need is the /dp/ and the item number after it, the rest is useless tracking information.
>Also I generally recommend against those, they are shit and tend to have problems with anything that's not a standard 1.44MB disk, many will even have issues with 720K disks.

Thanks - a slight shitpost as you can no doubt tell.

Having read some pf the responses, I'm really interested to know the specific content OP is looking to copy, as it's presumably game related. I would have assumed if he was running a legacy system then it would have a 3.5mm drive in it that could do all he needed to.

Anything running on a modern PC would either run the files for a game via Windows, Dosbox or a VM, or have other software solutions now, and so would make things like a boot disk unnecessary.

>>11929241
>3.5mm
it's inches, kid

>>11929241
>3.5mm
A floppy drive for ants.

>>11929241
it's becoming increasingly clear OP doesn't know what floppies they want to copy because they don't have them yet

>>11929136
>That's exactly what I want to do.
I see. Just so you know, these perfect clones aren't even specifically their file system and data but the physical structure of the disks. They are more for preservation than mounting the image to get the files off of it or using it in an emulator. I've seen people use it to write a bootable OS to inch floppies to get a 45 year old computer working, there is no way in hell any modern OS would have been able to write that disk properly.

If that's what you want though, then you have your work set out for you because you will need to supply your own authentic drives from that period for it and the software isn't exactly a one-click deal. You will likely have to dump it more than once as you're learning, as even the specific drive and how fast it's spinning (there was slight variances, and in very old drives you even had to watch out that you was not reading/writing at the wrong speed).

These files also would not work in emulators, or for any disk writing app that is also not writing to such devices. They're not intended for just ripping a game that anyone can download in a playable state off archive to toss into Dosbox.

>>11929142
>You can just use a regular floppy drive and something like dd for anything PC
No you can't, not for something like this. Devices like a KryoFlux or GreaseWeazle go far beyond what any standard OS would do just simply making an image of the disk's contents. That is like the equivalent of saying you can make a copy of a hand written document by using a typewriter when the entire point of wanting to copy it is to analyze the handwriting.

>>11929136
>That's exactly what I want to do.
I see. Just so you know, these perfect clones aren't even specifically their file system and data but the physical structure of the disks. They are more for preservation than mounting the image to get the files off of it or using it in an emulator. You will likely want to read the disk multiple times too since each revolution will be read slightly different. I've seen people use it to write a bootable OS to 8-inch floppies to get a 45 year old computer working, there is no way in hell any modern OS would have been able to write that disk properly.

If that's what you want though, then you have your work set out for you because you will need to supply your own authentic drives from that period for it and the software isn't exactly a one-click deal. You will likely have to dump it more than once as you're learning, as even the specific drive and how fast it's spinning (there was slight variances, and in very old drives you even had to watch out that you was not reading/writing at the wrong speed).

These files also would not work in emulators, or for any disk writing app that is also not writing to such devices. They're not intended for just ripping a game that anyone can download in a playable state off archive to toss into Dosbox.

>>11929142
>You can just use a regular floppy drive and something like dd for anything PC
No you can't, not for something like this. Devices like a KryoFlux or GreaseWeazle go far beyond what any standard OS would do just simply making an image of the disk's contents. That is like the equivalent of saying you can make a copy of a hand written document by using a typewriter when the entire point of wanting to copy it is to analyze the handwriting. Such a perfect copy is unnecessary if you just need to know what it says, but if you need to preserve every little aspect of how the document was made for preservation/analysis reasons then that's different.

>>11929376
They just want to copy commercial PC software from after 1983. They have nothing to gain with this niche hacker stuff.

>>11929376
I see. Thank you very much, anon.

>>11928571
>3.5 inch or also 5.25?
What part of "Standard IBM PC floppies" did you not understand?

>>11929580
You are aware that IBM PCs had models that came with 8, 5.25, and 3.5 inch drives right? And that there was a time where it wasn't at all uncommon for an IBM desktop to have both a 5.25 and 3.5 inch floppy drive on it?

>>11925493 (OP)
What disks do you have? ;)

>>11929589
>You are aware that you successfully baited a child into outing itself as an underage chatgptsmart fool right?
Yes. Yes I am.

>>11930436
>Trieds to go for the personal insults after being outed as not knowing shit
Yeah sure, nobody believes your "You fell for my trap card" bullshit zoomie

>>11925493 (OP)
dd
cp
Any modern Linux Os

>>11930529
>copes and projects
lol

Keep digging yourself deeper zoomie

OP doesn't even have the disks yet. They're just jerking off to the thought of coomlecting ducking floppies and then being precious about shit everyone already has

OP has never even touched a floppy disk lol xD

>>11931565
OP touches "her" floppy dick several times a day

>>11925493 (OP)

https://archive.org/details/dont-copy-that-floppy-official-video-digitally-remastered

>>11925493 (OP)
This has to be the zoomiest OP I've seen on this board.

>>11928081
What's one (1) of them?