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Anonymous No.11927156 >>11927159 >>11927234 >>11927243 >>11927668 >>11928028 >>11928172 >>11928698 >>11928946 >>11928948 >>11930084 >>11930159 >>11930164 >>11930726 >>11931924 >>11933741 >>11934109 >>11934703 >>11934792 >>11935701
ITT: shit levels in good games
I'll start with an obvious one
Anonymous No.11927159 >>11927257 >>11928284
>>11927156 (OP)
>good game
Anonymous No.11927162 >>11927257 >>11927565 >>11927762 >>11928180 >>11929734
>Halo was originally going to be a Mac exclusive. Steve Jobs introduced the game at MacWorld 1999
>Bungie sold themselves and Halo in 2000
>Bungie release Halo 1 and Halo 2 for OG Xbox
>Max Hoberman established Xbox Live, SBMM, 1-50 ranking system, online multiplayer on consoles, online Halo state tracking on Bungie.net
>After Halo 2, Bungie now want to leave Microsoft, works up a deal where they fill 3 obligations
>Bucket 1: Halo 3
>Bucket 2: Halo Chronicles
>Bucket 3: Halo 4
>Halo Movie is scrapped, ODST is compensated (8 month development)
>Halo 4 is scrapped, Lee Wilson wants to make Reach
>Bungie leaves in 2010/2011
>MS creates 343 to create Halo content in 2008/2009/2010
>MS/343 outsource Halo Anniversary to Saber, Saber got the contract to develop Halo Anniversary because its CEO 'offered to do it for free' lol
>343 gave Halo PC's Gearbox code base, and not Halo XBox's code base, to Saber
>343 doesn't know how to use Bungie's Halo engine, only the original Bungie devs knew, Marty told 343 that nobody at Bungie would help them lol
>Frank O'Connor retcons Joe Staten's lore and mythos (Humans = Forerunners)
>Halo 4 despised by fans
>Xbox no longer has Halo carrying the console
>Xbox One announcement is a complete flop and permanently damaged the brand
>Halo MCC was marketed as a love letter for the fans, having H1/H2/H3 on one console, 1080p 60fps with all maps, but completely busted on release
>H1 MCC and H2 MCC based on Gearbox PC port codebase and not the original Xbox codebase
>Halo 5 releases, and if Halo 4 didn't kill the franchise, Halo 5 buried it
>Tom French managed to salvage Halo 5's multiplayer, H5 never got a W11 port
>Halo MCC ported to Windows 10, 343 hires Halo MODDER Sean Cooper (kornman00) to fix the broken port from Jan 2018 - Dec 2023
>Infinite and Series X marketed as a return to Xbox's origins
>Infinite is delayed, released, promised a 10 year plan and is a complete flop
>343 renamed to Halo Studios and is remaking CE in UE5

You are here
Anonymous No.11927234 >>11928453
>>11927156 (OP)
It's bad visually but gameplay wise it's really fun.
Anonymous No.11927243
>>11927156 (OP)
Keyes is worse. The Library's biggest fault for me is that it just goes on too long. If they removed the final floor, the pacing would be better.
Anonymous No.11927257 >>11927320 >>11927521 >>11928210 >>11929347 >>11932538 >>11934168 >>11934921 >>11935514
>>11927159
>>11927162
>first two replies are unrelated posts about the game itself's quality with zero adknowlegement of the thread topic
i feel like i'm becoming a schizo sometimes but i swear this board must be full of bots
Anonymous No.11927316 >>11927526
xbox ninja gaiden swimming level
Anonymous No.11927320
>>11927257
oh it definitely is especially in /pol/ it's been like this since at least 2018 possibly sooner welcome to the new interweb
Anonymous No.11927521 >>11929720
>>11927257
No, I'm not a bot. Halo isn't good.
Anonymous No.11927526
>>11927316
water levels are easy mode
Anonymous No.11927565
>>11927162
https://youtu.be/AJXOyZsIBWY?si=qYus4Crg5pMJ2LK9
Anonymous No.11927643 >>11927650
Just went to play halo ce. And the shield wont recharge. Just beeps forever.
Anonymous No.11927650
>>11927643
Oh. There was a skull on.
Anonymous No.11927668 >>11928024
>>11927156 (OP)
Combat Evolved has no bad levels.
Anonymous No.11927762
>>11927162
>remaking CE in UE5
so a minimum 110gb install with aislop frame genning and dogshit "AI". great.
Anonymous No.11928024 >>11928094 >>11928453
>>11927668
Even Jason Jones said they shouldn't have shipped The Library. CE is a great game overall, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that some of the later levels aren't trash (they are).
Anonymous No.11928028 >>11928031 >>11928094
>>11927156 (OP)
Halo 2 moggs CE
Anonymous No.11928031
>>11928028
>breaking benjamin: the game
>better than CE
"No."
Anonymous No.11928094 >>11928110
>>11928024
The Library is hardcore. Play with other people.
>>11928028
Not even.
Anonymous No.11928110 >>11928185 >>11928203 >>11928317 >>11928756
>>11928094
>The Library is hardcore
No it isn't. It's just an exercise in tedium. I'd say I probably die on Library on Legendary less often than I die on Pillar of Autumn. It's not hard or mentally engaging, it's the definition of padding. It's just waves of identical enemies in the same fucking blue hallways from beginning to end. The real salt in the wound is Guilty Reddit constantly saying "just two more doors in this area~!" or whatever the fuck he says, tricking you into thinking "oh thank fuck, it's going to be over in a few minutes", and guess what: it isn't. Door after door after door after fucking door, a few elevators, a few more doors, a few rooms where you're locked in and have to do some gay Smash TV shit for a set amount of time, then more fucking doors, and then finally God decides you've suffered enough and you get back to the actual game. The funny part is, every single time I play, I try to convince myself that the level isn't as bad as I remember, that it'll be over quick, that when Guilty Spark says "last door bro" that he really means it, and every single time I realize I was retarded for ever doubting my initial reaction. Library apologists are diseased. Imagine playing 10/10 kino like Halo and Silent Cartographer and then defending that pile of complete fucking lumpy diarrheic AIDs-covered gorilla shit. Fuck you.
Anonymous No.11928172
>>11927156 (OP)
Library is fun.
Anonymous No.11928180 >>11928205 >>11928287
>>11927162
So sad. So we’re getting a remake of CE confirmed? So we have the original and we also have two different releases of the remaster that also lets you play w og graphics, and so this will be the 4th release technically? I mean doesn’t that just signal that 343/halo studios desperation like marvel bringing back Downey Jr as Doctor Doom. Just seems sad.

Anyway on topic, actually like the library I get what they were going for and coop it’s fun as fuck on legendary. It was like they were pulling a stage right out of serious Sam.
Anonymous No.11928185
>>11928110
Show me on the doll where the library touched you
Captcha: rRAWm
Anonymous No.11928203 >>11928212
>>11928110
>Level: >:(
>Level, Beach: :D
grow up nigga
Anonymous No.11928205
>>11928180
Halo CE is meant to be played in Co-op.
Anonymous No.11928210 >>11931879
>>11927257
Bots have been here for a long time and are only getting worse. They will never do anything about it because a higher post frequency makes it easier to sell ads. Ignoring longwinded redditspaced posts, template threads, and posts with exclamation marks is a good first step, but with enough dedication they can be hard to completely filter out
Anonymous No.11928212 >>11928482
>>11928203
>bro the endless blue corridors with nothing but flood with all of two viable weapons and a reddit robot humming was the same as le heckin beach with nearly every enemy and weapon in the game and a diverse range of environments and non-linear paths through the level
Why did you wake up today and decide to be a retarded fag?
Anonymous No.11928284 >>11928296
>>11927159
It's a better game than the shit that is pic related. OP this is shit board for retro games irs just for nintendo crap, post it on /v/ anon
Anonymous No.11928287
>>11928180
The Library is fun if you already like Halo combat, because that's all it is. And it's the only time in the series where you can feel truly overwhelmed.
Anonymous No.11928296
>>11928284
Oh no he's breached containment from the Speccy thread
Anonymous No.11928317 >>11928325 >>11928487
>>11928110
The colour grey absolutely destroys those smitten with ADHD.
Anonymous No.11928325 >>11928490
>>11928317
>"grey"
>blue and piss yellow
Anonymous No.11928453
>>11927234
Visuals and atmosphere are the strong>>11928024
>Even Jason Jones said they shouldn't have shipped The Library
I don't give a shit about his opinion. It's a great intense level with amazing atmosphere.
Anonymous No.11928482
>>11928212
we don't post diary entries here
go ahead and tell me with a straight face that the flood is homogenous and precisely one enemy type, you disingenuous ignoramus
Anonymous No.11928487
>>11928317
good point except picrel
Anonymous No.11928490
>>11928325
Please point out the hallways of piss yellow.
Anonymous No.11928698 >>11928714
>>11927156 (OP)
Thats not the level where you board the ship for first time and then gang raped from 4 sides
It was pain for me on legendary
Anonymous No.11928714
>>11928698
Grenade thrown into every door, charged plasma pistol shots, free aim sniper rifle, keep moving and always keep your back facing a wall.
Anonymous No.11928741 >>11928750 >>11929351
Any sewer level
Why do devs add filler sewer levels? Is it some kind of joke to troll the players?
Anonymous No.11928750 >>11928846
>>11928741
One reason is to simulate the player travelling a large distance without having to detail the overworld, e.g. a city. Sewer textures all look the same.
Anonymous No.11928756
>>11928110
didn't read
Anonymous No.11928762 >>11928850
Why are the flood so weak? The balloons should be higher impact or more numerous. Also, all the enemies everywhere should respawn so you're forced to play the game properly instead of cheesing it.
Anonymous No.11928846
>>11928750
I’d rather just be forced to fast travel than have to endure a sewer level
Anonymous No.11928850 >>11928894
>>11928762
Not sure what you're getting at, in what way do people cheese it? Staying in one corner and shooting at incoming waves?
Anonymous No.11928894 >>11928953
>>11928850
Nat On Legendary you can split screen it yourself slowly moving up 2nd player but keeping them back far enough so they don’t get attacked while you respawn. You can cheese it w a buddy too.
Anonymous No.11928946 >>11929171 >>11929616
>>11927156 (OP)
Chemical Plant zone's Act 2 is awful.
The level is confusing and unfair, platforms are glitchy (Sonic gets crushed literally by thin air), the underwater section is a meme, etc.

Nowadays I can beat it easily, but as a kid I despised that act with a passion, especially because the rest of the game is really good.
Anonymous No.11928948 >>11930084
>>11927156 (OP)
The Library isn't that hard. It's a bit tedious and drawn out but manageable when you know that it's the only level in the game where the pistol won't carry you because it doesn't do effective crowd control, and it's better to carry the assault rifle or plasma rifle and shotgun.
Anonymous No.11928953 >>11929318
>>11928894
You can also just not do that.
Anonymous No.11929171
>>11928946
I will not disagree but aesthetically speaking those are my favorites from all Sonic games.
Anonymous No.11929318
>>11928953
He was asking how can it be cheesed and I was explaining it.
Anonymous No.11929347 >>11929370 >>11930156 >>11931695 >>11931819
>>11927257
no one on /vr/ likes halo and if you were here pre election tourism you'd know it was shit talked relentlessly
Anonymous No.11929351
>>11928741
Second this, they're always my least favorite levels.
Anonymous No.11929370
>>11929347
i like Halo. it's fun trying to find sequence breaks :-)
Anonymous No.11929397 >>11929639 >>11934703 >>11934750
Two betrayals was the worst for me, horribly boring slog with nothing to do. At least with the Library, Keyes, and Maw you mostly spend your time killing. Even then, it did have some night atmosphere.
Anonymous No.11929616 >>11929676
>>11928946
>level is mostly linear
>there's barely any enemies and none of them pose a thread
>idk what you're talking about with the glitch platforms you fucking liar
>the water section is only hard if you're a braindead child and can be skipped all together
>boss can be killed before he even attacks
Anonymous No.11929639 >>11929678 >>11929683 >>11929802
>>11929397
People seem to have selective memory with CE, they ignore missions in their entirety and boil down them to a handful of sequences. "It's the same room", "it's grey hallways", "it's purple hallways", "there's nothing to do", all comes off as revisionism to me because this was never the rhetoric for years. It always felt well paced to me because it was a game I could always spend hours playing.
Anonymous No.11929676 >>11929710 >>11935619
>>11929616
Just because you saw a youtuber playthrough of the game, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about

Here's the glitch: https://youtu.be/yle3FJsk5XU
It can happen extremely easy and the game glitches like fuck with a lot of platforming in this level, you even get stuck in loops pretty consistently
Anonymous No.11929678 >>11929747 >>11929776 >>11931270
>>11929639
The rhetoric for years was that halo was a gay baby game for toddlers. I don't give a shit about that.
Yes Two Betrayals is boring as fuck to me with way less combat encounters in what was already the most repetitive map (AOTCR). I enjoy CE overall so I regularly replay it and the last time I played two betrayals was about 2 months ago, and it was the worst part of the experience for me.
Anonymous No.11929683
>>11929639
It sounds condemning in internet forum posts but levels like the library are short and fun with some decent challenges. If they're long to you, you're dying too much.
Anonymous No.11929710
>>11929676
my autistic ass has played through sonic 2 at least three times a week every week in the last year. yeah. no shit you'll die if you stand and get crushed like a retard. i'll admit it's buggy and i can't deny that getting stuck in the loops in this act specifically but the classic sonic games are full of jank that clips your momentum going down slopes (i'm looking at you, hydrocity zone act 1 right before the extra life platform near the beginning). if you're looking for shitass jank in sonic 2 then just finish this act and look at aquatic ruins for half a second.
Anonymous No.11929720
>>11927521
you just have bad taste
Anonymous No.11929734
>>11927162
You forgot how Xbox is now pretty much self destructing
Anonymous No.11929747 >>11929804
>>11929678
>The rhetoric for years was that halo was a gay baby game for toddlers.
nah, only salty gen Xers pushed this narrative because they were seething that arena shooters were basically put to rest with halo
Anonymous No.11929776
>>11929678
>The rhetoric for years was that halo was a gay baby game for toddlers.
Yeah the world was totally shaped in this rhetoric, sure.
Anonymous No.11929781
Anonymous No.11929802
>>11929639
I thought it was well-established for decades that Combat Evolved has far and away the best campaign.
Anonymous No.11929804 >>11929851
>>11929747
same niggas seething at the based prequels to this day
Anonymous No.11929806 >>11934724
Getting jumped by like 5 tediz in a confined space when you're just getting used to the machine guns.

It's infuriating.
Anonymous No.11929851 >>11929909
>>11929804
nah, not the same at all. prequels are genuinely flawed movies that you only liked because you were a kid (and so was i). yes they are better than the disney movies but that doesn't make them retroactively good. phantom menace despite being a clusterfuck of a snore-inducing story is the best one because it keeps the CGI to a somewhat minimum and was the last star wars movie to still be filmed on analog film. 2 and 3 are bloated pieces of dogshit weighed down by the flat lifeless scenes and hayden's faggoty emo teenager acting.
Anonymous No.11929909 >>11930151 >>11935512
>>11929851
>prequels are genuinely flawed movies
only you think this silly boomer
the ot is worse than the pt in every single way
Anonymous No.11930084
>>11928948
i found it easy enough with shotgun and M6D.

>>11927156 (OP)
As an adult playing in HD with keyboard and mouse, Library seems too easy, to the point of being boring, even on Legendary. Why did they make the flood so weak?

I'd prefer not to see enemies spawning in plain sight based on me walking John past a certain point. There's one spot, in a tunnel, where bombers can just appear out of nowhere, instead of pretending to come out of something, multiple times in a row. It even has a sound cue when John passes a specific point. Very immersion breaking.
Anonymous No.11930151 >>11935490 >>11935531
>>11929909
>twitter poll
kys
Anonymous No.11930156
>>11929347
It's not about halo being bad or good it's about these copypasta replies that are shit out seconds after the OP. 4chuds is full of bots, while this board isn't really suited for them the ease of making one means it's very likely there's at least 1.
Anonymous No.11930159 >>11930167 >>11931171
>>11927156 (OP)
>The flood are a ripoff of the many
>they even ripped of the crappy penultimate orangic hive level but made it brown
Anonymous No.11930163
The atmosphere in the Library is really cool and mysterious, I've found the modding scene has never been able to do it justice when they try and improve it and throw tons more factions and vehicles into it and try to make it like a Halo 2 level.
Anonymous No.11930164 >>11934703
>>11927156 (OP)
Two Betrayals is far worse than the Library.
Anonymous No.11930167 >>11931171
>>11930159
Anon it's all just Aliens.
Anonymous No.11930726
>>11927156 (OP)
Anonymous No.11930789
343 was okay, if long and annoying
The library was just too long.
I can't forgive them for two betrayals as it was just the Assault in reverse
Anonymous No.11930804 >>11931176 >>11931814 >>11932392 >>11933812 >>11933892 >>11934728
Hope you like fps platforming
Anonymous No.11931171
>>11930159
Everything in Halo is a ripoff. They were very lazy.

>>11930167
1980s scifi in general. The major influences i've noticed are Alien$ and Iain M. Banks' Culture series, which (You) should read :-)
Anonymous No.11931176
>>11930804
i do. this is fun :-)
Anonymous No.11931193
star wars shadows of the empire the racing level
Anonymous No.11931270
>>11929678
Two Betrayals fucking sucked. Blows my mind that some people have it as their favorite level. There are some cool moments but overall it sucked.
Anonymous No.11931284 >>11931597
Why are the flood so weak? It's frustrating having only the flood to fight. So boring.
Anonymous No.11931597 >>11931686
>>11931284
Because there are a shit ton of them
Anonymous No.11931686 >>11931723
>>11931597
There's not though. That's the problem.
Anonymous No.11931695
>>11929347
All games were/are constantly shit talked because you're all terminally online contrarians with nothing better to do.
Anonymous No.11931723 >>11931743
>>11931686
Yeah I truly do not understand this new trend of Halo revisionism lol
Anonymous No.11931743 >>11931786 >>11931943
>>11931723
it was designed for standard definition and sloppy potentiometer sticks, and i'm playing in HD with a much more precise optical sensor mouse. Legendary is barely challenging played this way as an adult.
Anonymous No.11931786 >>11931831
>>11931743
Oh great and amazing gamer please regale us with the shooters you feel are a true challenge.
Anonymous No.11931814
>>11930804
>fps platforming
There needs to be more of this
Anonymous No.11931819 >>11931879 >>11934723
>>11929347
>you'd know it was shit talked relentlessly
Is there a single game that /vr/ doesn't shittalk? Like name ONE single game. Most of the posts about any game ever are just negative shit
Anonymous No.11931831
>>11931786
I never said other shooters are more challenging, just that Halo CE's "Legendary" has room to be more challenging. i guess i could impose additional challenges on myself, such as saving Al Matthews
Anonymous No.11931879 >>11931885
>>11928210
Lel stop thinking you can detect them faggot, that's step one. Step two is to accept the death of the internet as we know it. Alternatively you can just lie to yourself and enjoy the bots. Up to you.
>>11931819
Yep
Anonymous No.11931885 >>11932046 >>11934678 >>11934690 >>11935518
>>11931879
Spiritually left-wing, naturally defeatist.
Anonymous No.11931924
>>11927156 (OP)
The worst thing about this is the jarring difficulty spike immediately following it. And the bullshit end where i just run past them instead of fighting.
Anonymous No.11931943
>>11931743
post playthrough
Anonymous No.11932046 >>11932058 >>11932646 >>11935518
>>11931885
as opposed to spiritually right-wing which is
>any opinion that does not 100% align with mine is a Jewish CIA tranny psyop specifically targeting and inconveniencing me and only me
how may you ask would it still be the government doing these psyops when trump is in power? it's best not to ask these kinds of questions about these "people" and their beliefs
Anonymous No.11932058 >>11932359
>>11932046
>>any opinion that does not 100% align with mine
nta but I've found this mindset to be much more prevalent in progressive circles, to the point that even minor disagreements are viewed as personal attacks
Anonymous No.11932359 >>11932362
>>11932058
it's both of them feggit. horseshoe theory is 100% real and valid
Anonymous No.11932362 >>11932550
>>11932359
maybe, but both sides don't curve at the same rate in my experience
Anonymous No.11932392
>>11930804
Unironically aged better than most 3d platformers.
Anonymous No.11932538
>>11927257
>if it's a lazy, low-effort post, then it MUST have been from a bot!
I wish I had as much faith in humanity as you do.
Anonymous No.11932550 >>11932556
>>11932362
then you're clearly new here
Anonymous No.11932556
>>11932550
>here
completely unrelated to the discussion
Anonymous No.11932646
>>11932046
I'm just straight up right wing and more tolerant than you, I can say that much for sure.
Anonymous No.11933741 >>11933821
>>11927156 (OP)
Are the flood nerfed in MCC, or do they just suck? They're so impotent for most of the level and the "high tension" music is really discordant with the threat they pose compared to the much more difficult ayy lmaos
Anonymous No.11933812 >>11933830 >>11933931 >>11933946
>>11930804
Is there a reason that specifically Xen was so hated at the time? It isn't long at all, and the game has fucking unlimited quicksaves. I get that the giant headcrab boss battle can be buggy, but the rest of that area is just as kino as Black Mesa, especially in the expansions.
Anonymous No.11933821
>>11933741
It's just how they are
Anonymous No.11933830
>>11933812
It's not. It's pacing is terrible. The gameplay is completely antithetical to what the rest of the game has taught you and the level layouts are just a mess to navigate with random guessing being the only way to progress. It sucks, it always has sucked, and it will continue to suck.
Anonymous No.11933892
>>11930804
this part was cool.
Anonymous No.11933931
>>11933812
it's hated by the same people who can't tolerate heterogeneous food textures
Anonymous No.11933946 >>11933952
>>11933812
I still hate it. Its probably the vortigaunt factory that really annoys me
Anonymous No.11933952 >>11934532
>>11933946
you can just not start shit with them and they'll leave you alone
Anonymous No.11934109 >>11934703
>>11927156 (OP)
Two Betrayals is worse
Anonymous No.11934168 >>11934184
>>11927257
beep boop bop bop
i mean it's obvious a bot ridden site but because of those 2 posts, is not like i see you contributing either though.
Anonymous No.11934184
>>11934168
beep bop boop boop wow cool analysis sherlock, you cracked the case of β€œwebsite has posts.” now if you’ll excuse me i have to go contribute to my vibe.
Anonymous No.11934532
>>11933952
No you can't because the controllers come in and start making them aggro. Not to mention the level verticality makes it so the controls have full advantage of the arena and those damn spinning platforms can't even give you a consistent point of reference to shoot from. Xen is garbage.
Anonymous No.11934678
>>11931885
You obviously haven't been paying attention or lack the capacity for understanding. Fucking faggot.
Anonymous No.11934690 >>11934729
>>11931885
You fucking little rat bitch. God damn you pissed me off.
The internet is exactly the same as it was in 2005 huh buddy? You god damned retarded slack jaw fuck?
I'm a fucking defeatist?
Yeah man the internet is totally not just a gigantic ad and monitors everything you do now. Totally not controlled by giant corporations.
LLMs improve every day but you know who's a bot.
Fuck you you ignorant faggot.
Anonymous No.11934703 >>11934730
>>11929397
>>11930164
>>11934109
was it really necessary to have Cortana tell John to steal a banshee? Was this determined through play testing at 480i?

>>11927156 (OP)
i like how there's no Cortana in this one and the previous level. makes it more like Half-Life, not shitty Half-Life 2
Anonymous No.11934723
>>11931819
Ocarina of Time. For every one post shit talking it there's ten posts calling him retarded.
Anonymous No.11934724
>>11929806
The part where you leave on the beach and you get one shot by rockets made me bite my controller as a child.
Anonymous No.11934728
>>11930804
I don't know if I was doing something wrong when I played but I never got any ammo in xen. I had to use the shitty alien gun the whole time and I hated it.
Anonymous No.11934729 >>11934776
>>11934690
And a good "fuck drumpf and all his little drumpfers!" to you too.
Anonymous No.11934730 >>11934746 >>11934851
>>11934703
Two Betrayals was a completely unnecessary level entirely and is the definition filler.
Does it provide anything unique gameplay wise? Sure there's Flood fighting Covenant but those engagements are few and far between and Keyes does it better. The level isn't any different than Assault on the Control room except for the banshee and even the scenarios you're given to use it aren't fun.
Does it do anything Narratively?
No. Cheif has to disrupt some power generators to make it so the Ring can't fire for a short period of time which is pointless because Cortana has the activation index so 343 can't activate the ring and even if 343 had the index he'd still need a human to activate it for him.

It's literally the worst lwvel
Anonymous No.11934746
>>11934730
you didn't get in a banshee the first time through? it's really easy stealthing the last bit and grabbing an active camo
Anonymous No.11934750 >>11934764 >>11934835
>>11929397
I'll never understand hating this level. The worst things I can say about it are that the map is mostly reused from AotCR and going to those handful of copypasted energy node areas was a little bit repetitive. Even then though, the level is played in reverse, is much more vertical with new enemy encounters, and it's at night time, so the ambiance and flow are significantly different. As for the rooms you have to fly to, they take all of 5-10 minutes in an 1hr+ level to complete, and AotCR has way more of those copy pasted areas interior areas. Coming out of the forerunner structure and sliding down to stealthily pick off little camps of enemies and then hijacking a banshee is a lot of fun, and those big open areas filled with flood and covenant engaging in all out war is unironic kino.

I look forward to this level every time I play. I can't imagine hating it unless you hate 70% of the levels in general. That, or getting filtered by shit like the opening area where you have to kill the drones. It doesn't do anything worse in terms of reused content than the other levels in the latter half of the game. Disliking this shit more than the Library is baffling to me. I'd say it's one of my favorite levels right up there with Halo and SC.
Anonymous No.11934764 >>11934835
>>11934750
Only post in this thread talking sense. Atmosphere in Two Betrayals is fantastic as well.
Anonymous No.11934776 >>11934787
>>11934729
I'm reddit? Riiight. Mr "we can still win this!" You are so brain dead dude. You're still signing your fucking change dot org net neutrality campaign. You have nothing to say so you cry trump. Dumb little zoomer, you don't even know what's been lost.
Anonymous No.11934787
>>11934776
The keyword has been entered thus γ€ŒBOT」 has been activated。
Anonymous No.11934792
>>11927156 (OP)
the parts with just a bunch of bombers are funny because more of them doesn't add any additional challenge. The whole level is a cakewalk, even on Legendary. Have youngshits ever experienced an actual cakewalk? Do those still happen?
Anonymous No.11934835 >>11934915 >>11935013
>>11934750
>>11934764
Oh please AOTCR is already a long slog boring level with copy paste rooms and Two Betrayals is just that backwards and with an enemy set that doesn't play well in the geometry. Not only that it's played only two levela after AOTCR which makes it even more apparent the reuse of the level is. We get less vehicles to play with on Two Betrayals with the only unique vehicles being the banshees which we only get to fly in the box canyons they are featured in. The flood ans covenant don't really fight each other as they are segregated in their specific rooms and the only time we see any interfighting is in wide open terrain where we can't even take advantage of the chaos. I don't care that it's dark and snowy, the ambiance is nowhere near as good as 343, Halo, or the Maw. Repetitive rooms aren't fun and neither are less vehicle options aren't fun
Anonymous No.11934851
>>11934730
>Two Betrayals was a completely unnecessary level entirely and is the definition filler.
It's fun therefore it exists.
>Does it provide anything unique gameplay wise?
Don't care
>Does it do anything Narratively?
Don't care
>It's literally the worst lwvel
One of the best actually.
Anonymous No.11934853
have y'all considered the original context though? Google lets you specify a range of dates for your search.

the big open maps with all the toys were well received at the time. there's multiple ways to play them, which is more than can be said about a lot of crAAAp
Anonymous No.11934915 >>11934953 >>11934968
>>11934835
>DUDE LESS VEHICLES SO IT'S BAD LOL
guy fieri tier argument. also top lmao at you sucking off 343 which is literally a proto-library and boils down to running through identical concrete hallways until the end, whereafter you then run back through the exact same hallways but with shittier platforming and flood. but it has muh spooopy forest opening area with le crackling radios (that lasts for exactly 30 seconds)... it's like one of my alien movies!!!

let's be honest, you just get filtered by the drones on legendary and you want a scorpion tank to stick its barrel in your anus. there's no other reason you'd defend absolute dogshit like 343 (you know, the level that's 50% played in reverse and has no vehicles?). TB is one of the few levels with a meaningful stealth element, has some of the most enemy variety, has all of the weapons, cool enemy infighting, and is one of the only levels after in the second half od the game with some non-linearity. this is on top of it having nice ambiance and the least amount of some cunt shouting in your ear. there is literally nothing to dislike about it other than muh reused content which multiple other levels do way more egregiously. you are a faggot with bad taste.
Anonymous No.11934921
>>11927257
it's just oldtroons still fighting console wars from 20 years ago
Blue-Eyes White F-slur !0J4ewmjU/I No.11934953 >>11934956
>>11934915
343 is the only good level because it has no Cortana and no 343 until the end

i want the threepios to leave me the duck alone. i have irl friends to talk to
Anonymous No.11934956 >>11934964
>>11934953
>343
>good
" No. "
Blue-Eyes White F-slur !0J4ewmjU/I No.11934964 >>11934969
>>11934956
it's the least bad one then. except for it being piss easy

Halo is just a shit game.
Anonymous No.11934968 >>11934980
>>11934915
Hey faggot I only used 343 as a reference to a level with more fucking Ambience than Two Betrayals. It's funny you need to make up arguments I didn't even say just to defend the shitty level you like.
>Less vehicles in massive ass level is actually a good thing
Piss off. Two betrayals would have benefitted greatly with the inclusion of a usable Wraith to mix up the encounters and smash up Flood. At the very least give us something more than a ghost or don't take the fucking banshee away when the level finally opens up.
Anonymous No.11934969
>>11934964
>be tripnigger
>have bad opinions, a low IQ and a small penis
every time
Anonymous No.11934980 >>11934996
>>11934968
>abloo bloo poo poo no argument
alright.
>less vehicles in massive ass level
it isn't even massive, it's like 1/3 as big as AOTCR because the entire level isn't reused. i can't imagine how shit and retarded you must be at the game to struggle with this level just because it doesn't have tanks. because that's what is ultimately at play here: you don't like the level because you get your anus hammered by drones and the node room squads. you have failed to produce any criticism other than "uhhh it sucks because it has less vehicles", and this is because you need to git gud.
Anonymous No.11934996 >>11935007
>>11934980
>Hur dur you bad at level cuz you need tank
There you go making up shit again. I said that more vehicle variety would help make the level less of a boring slog. Do you even fucking read posts before replying? The biggest issue with Two Betrayals is that it is a boring fucking level that feels like filler because that is exactly what it is. It doesn't add anything of worth. Any new concepts it brings into the sandbox are not capitalized on and the lack of variety fucking kills it. When was the last time you even played CE? These issues are apparent to anyone who has played the game without rose tinting.
Anonymous No.11935007 >>11935069
>>11934996
>the level is boring because it's boring, it's a boring slog, it's a boring slog because it doesn't have enough vehicles and something something muh sandbox
a compelling argument. unfortunately, after much consideration, i maintain that you are A) bad at the game and B) a fag with no taste.
Anonymous No.11935013 >>11935069
>>11934835
>COPY PASTE COPY PASTE
Anonymous No.11935069 >>11935158 >>11935476 >>11936037
>>11935007
>>11935013
Can you literally do anything other than make up arguments no one is making to defend your shit opinion? Fuck you gotta samefag too? I've made it clear enough for Helen Fucking Keller to see but here's why the level is fucking boring. It reuses a previous level that wasn't that good, it reuses the same room over and over, it reuses the same objective over and over, it lacks vehicle variety, it lacks unique encounters, it rarely has the covenant combat the flood, it boxes you in with the
Banshee so you can't even really experiment combat scenarios with it which is awful since this is the only level it is featured as a drivable vehicle, and it's repetitive just like your retarded rebuttals. Now do me a favor and shove a dick in your mouth so I don't have to hear your pathetic arguments.
Anonymous No.11935158
>>11935069
lol
he mad
Anonymous No.11935476 >>11935507
>>11935069
You're not a real CE fan.
Anonymous No.11935490 >>11935707
>>11930151
Gb2bluesky
Anonymous No.11935507 >>11935539
>>11935476
>You can't criticize something you like
Fuck off. I've beaten CE more times than your father should've beat you.
Anonymous No.11935512
>>11929909
>poll conducted by prequel babies shows retards prefer a retarded movie.
Guarantee those idiots voting have never even watched the OT
Anonymous No.11935514
>>11927257
the real moral of the story is to pick a better op example. halo invites classic retarded debates, console wars are a true eccentric spice of /vr/ that never fades away over time unlike good video game discussion, because it is a spice bereft of wit and one enjoyed by simple minds
Anonymous No.11935518 >>11935643
>>11932046
>>11931885
Both directions are in defeatist bipartisanship mode as soon as you bring up about kids and terror.
Anonymous No.11935531
>>11930151
>implying a 4redditor hugbox poll is anything significant
Anonymous No.11935539
>>11935507
>I've beaten CE more times than you
Not a chance.
Anonymous No.11935619
>>11929676
I can confirm the moving platform thing, sometimes it can also push you into a block and you have to reset or wait for a timeout.
Never seen the part where you crash through the ground but I wouldn't be surprised, Sonic games are famous for being so fucking buggy. Speedrunners just use the look up then spindash trick because it temporarily removes all collission and you can overflow the counter and skip to the ending of a level in five seconds.
Anonymous No.11935643
>>11935518
Here comes the fencewalker.
Anonymous No.11935701
>>11927156 (OP)
Whenever I think about replaying SoF 2 I remember those three levels in Cambodia and immediately go back to replaying the first one instead.
Anonymous No.11935707
>>11935490
we're not on twitter right now, sorry to tell you
Anonymous No.11936037 >>11936253
>>11935069
>y-you're making up arguments...
>"the biggest problem with this level is that it is BORING and FILLER LOL"
Wow, very comprehensive and intelligent analysis, surely anyone lambasting your non-arguments is "making things up" and not simply point out how vapid and pointless your statements have been.
Anonymous No.11936253 >>11936261
>>11936037
>t. only reads the first sentence of a post before responding
Based retard
Anonymous No.11936261 >>11936263
>>11936253
>tfw I only need to read the first sentence of your post to realize you're a homosexual with terrible non-opinions
Based me
Anonymous No.11936263
>>11936261
Could you make like Anne Frank in an attic and shut the fuck up?
Anonymous No.11936382