Thread 11930386

What are the worst ways to experience /vr/ games?

>>11930386 (OP)
Original hardware
>expensive
>no QoL improvements like supsend points, Save States, Fast Forward, etc

On your phone with touchscreen controls, it can't get any worse than this. Whenever I see people emulate on their phone I genuinely go into
>you can't enjoy thing like that
mode because it's better not to play at all than disrespect classic vidya like that. God I fucking hate that shit

>>11930397
This is only true for action games, it doesn't matter for turn based games

>on a phone
>on a shitty emulator
>with a controller/kbm not suited to the original console
>using save states

GBA remakes, with the exception of mario advance series

>>11930410
Just play all stars

>>11930406
Another argument towards turn-based RPGs not being proper video games

>>11930386 (OP)
This collection had laughably bad input lag and iirc some of the music was totally fucked.
In fact, most of these old school collections after the 6th gen were fucking awful.

The collections for PS2 were pretty good.

>>11930417
>I can't read or think so the game is bad
Average generic space shooter poster

>>11930386 (OP)
>What are the worst ways to experience /vr/ games?
Having your loser uncle show you his shitty old retro games

>>11930423
Literally what?

>>11930423
That's oddly specific... Care to share what else your uncle showed you, anon?

>>11930397
I clip a ps4 controller to my iphone and it works fine. Better than playing it on PSP or some chinkheld.

>>11930430
Can you make those damn prompts on the screen go away though? If yes then I guess it's alright

>>11930386 (OP)
Browser emulators. Fuck those pieces of shit.

>>11930430
What a grim setup.

You niggas do know you can buy a Wii with shit loads of accessories for 20 dollars and find pretty decent CRTs for like 10-20 bucks?
You can mod your Wii in 10 minutes and emulate everything up until the 4th gen perfectly, plus arcade games, plus most N64, plus all of the GameCube and Wii libraries. You can even dabble in some PS1 emulation, but that kinda sucks on the Wii ngl

Stop playing games on your phone, like holy fuck

>>11930419
how was the ultimate genesis collection on ps3/360

>>11930393
>MUH QOL IMPROVEMENTS
What a cope.

>game: badly emulated from some official online service I have to pay for every month
>screen: occupying the full width of my ultrawide 4K TV, raw, without filters
>gameplay: with a modern gamepad that makes the game feel terrible
>features: savestates, rewind, cheats that I plan to abuse obviously
Yup, it's gaming time!

>>11930462
Enjoy wasting your time I guess

>>11930419
>The collections for PS2 were pretty good.
The Capcom Arcade collections were kino. The version of Quiz & Dragons unique to the second volume featuring only questions about Capcom video games was kino. Had a night of playing it and drinking with friends and had a blast.

NSO is alright

>>11930386 (OP)
you posted it

>>11930459
That one was nicely emulated, but the game selection was kinda ass and repeated a lot of duds that no one cared to play that came from older gen collections.

Did we really need Alex Kidd, 2 Ecco games, E SWAT and Super Thunder Blade again, but no Toe Jam and Earl, Gunstar Heroes or Afterburner?

>>11930467
The NSO gradient side overlays make me sick , I hate them so much. I refuse to use that service simply because of those fucking side bars.
It's actually insane that Nintendo doesn't even let you turn them off

>>11930519
I've heard that they don't allow you to do that specifically so that shared screenshots and videos are immediately identifiable as having come from NSO.
This this is true, it fails to account for the idea of just... cropping the border away.

>>11930446
I personally don't give a fuck how you play /vr/ games because at least you're playing them, but whenever I see people abuse rewind at the slightest obstacle I feel disgusted for some reason. Like I've seen people get checkpoints, die, then rewind spam and it's disgusting to me.

>>11930386 (OP)
Zsnes

>>11930410
>JUST WHAT I NEEDED!

>>11930386 (OP)
The NSO is honestly fine outside of the N64 but I'm not losing any sleep over that. I'd say browser games or emulators on the phone are far worse.

>>11930393
yep, as always fippy bippy

>>11930453
I can emulate all that on my phone too, and more, and better. Cope more

In Europe.

>>11930397
I don't like emulating games on a touchscreen either, but why get mad about how other people choose to play?

>>11930453
Ps1 emulation on the wii aint too bad honestly. Most 2d games runs well. 3d games run fine if you disable dithering. Otherwise they might be hit or miss but I beat silent hill with dithering on.

>>11930410
What about Fire Red and Leaf Green?

>>11930818
>Ps1 emulation on the wii
It's gotten better. I probably won't need to get the ps1 out of the closet anymore

>>11930386 (OP)
Probably by listening to pseuds on YouTube and basing your opinion on what they say and having a lavish devotion to a generation, console or mascott

>>11930393
the biggest shock for me going to original hardware is the very noisy analog signals. It seems common for megadrive to have jailbars in the signal, and for n64 there's actually quite a bit of noise on the 3.3v power rail causing flickering on certain colors.

>>11930386 (OP)
On a shitty fdm "arcade machine" with a raspberry pi inside of it.

>>11930495
>>11930519
How is Nintendo's official emulation so bad anyway? I mean, they know exactly how the N64 works, they should be able to have the most accurate emulation
They don't even use 3-point filtering for textures

>>11930934
emulators are predominantly built as a passionate volunteer effort with no deadlines or salaries to pay.
NSO is what happens when you give wagies who not heavily invested about emulation a goal and a deadline

>>11930408
>>with a controller/kbm not suited to the original console
Or just the touchscreen lol

>>11930393
>no save states
Everdrives support them albeit

>>11930417
A retarded one maybe. I guess adventure games, puzzle games and points and clicks also aren't real games now

>>11930386 (OP)
Those plug and play emulator consoles you can find at the supermarket are pretty bad

>>11930386 (OP)
Just add a cheap ass controller, 3 days of input lag and a wrong, all stretched aspect ration and you're golden

>>11930934
The funny part is the old wii NES games all had the same bugs fceux had at the time. Nintendo was just using fceux code.

>>11930973
lmao
I think WayForward also stole some emulator code for NES Contra in Contra 4

>>11930934
nintendo doesnt care about preserving video games
the funniest thing about their emulators is that with each console it gets worse and worse
>>11930941
also this

>>11930973
>The funny part is the old wii NES games all had the same bugs fceux had at the time. Nintendo was just using fceux code.
That sounds hilarious. Any specific examples?

>>11930419
This one's even worse. The sound especially is completely fucked.

>>11930386 (OP)
NSO is a really comfy way to play retro games

>>11930397
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

>>11931023
Yeah I don't get this claim either. I usually play on original hardware but I play pretty often on NSO due to convenience and it's absolutely fine. Also the NSO controllers are fucking great and I use them on original hardware all the time.

>>11930386 (OP)
One of those random absurdly cheap retro handhelds from Aliexpress that come pre-loaded with a bunch of very out of date emulators and random roms half of which are bootleg hacks that can barely handle anything above an NES at a playable speed and have a controller that feels like you are mashing a banana and is less responsive than narcoleptic sloth.

>>11930435
Yes, there's a hide all button in the bottom right corner.

>>11930435
>>11931264
There's also menu toggles to not show it at all. RetroArch can do almost anything you'd think to want RetroArch to do.

>>11930934
They outsourced it to chinks.

>>11931301
Source?

>>11930459
I don't know about the collection but I remember buying SoR2 on XBLA back in the 360 days and the sound was completely fucked
Not just subtle things, you could immediately tell the audio emulation was dogshit from the sound it made when you punched the air

>>11931305
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue

>>11931312
lmao
The Switch N64 emulation is literal chinkshit

>>11930386 (OP)
Walkthroughs, but its the only kind of experience I wanna have.

>>11930397
>>11930408
>>11930430
>>11930705
>>11930715
Reminder that anyone who unironically emulates on their phone, and that's their main setup, is probably Brazilian or Indian.

>>11931601
SAAAR I FINISH THE WHOLE RESIDENCE OF EVIL ON MY SAMSUNG S7 ON THE DUCKSTATION AND ENJOY VERY MUCH

>>11930386 (OP)
>What are the worst ways to experience /vr/ games?
On a switch or a phone or via a non congrous IO mechanism, like a touch screen when the game was originally written for a keyboard.

>>11930467
don't forget to talk about it on your socials to show what an hardcore connoisseur you are ;)

>>11931603
ked'd but the turd world does not play video games, anything not involved in scamming your way out of being a slumdog is seen as wasteful.

>>11931601
>emulates on their phone

Emulate on a phone? Yeah that's shitty, but that's nothing. Posting on 4chan from your phone now nothing of value ever came out of that. If 4chan was inaccessible from phones the posting quality would be much greater. But of course phone posting retards are the kind of retards who click on ads, and not even by accident, so we're forced to tolerate them.

>>11930446
To be honest mother brain is such an annoying shit ass boss fight in every incarnation she's in except super metroid

>>11931017
Oh man I was so pumped for this disc as I was a DC owner who missed out on the Genesis and was shocked by how bad it was.

>>11930446

I have the same look of disgust on my face watching this.

>>11930393
Lmfao! this. Whew you had to get it in there on the first post

>>11930446
>this is where Aurateur puts his penis in
mashallah

>>11930495
Holy like like that’s bad!

>>11931017
I got the GBA one just to be able to play Ecco the Dolphin portable and it's by far the worst version of the game. The sound is atrocious and it only has 2 music tracks for the whole game.

The one upside is that not liking Sonic, I never would have played Spinball orherwise but that introduced me to it and it's a game I still really dig.

Golden Axe forever sucks.

>>11930495
>>11932014
They fixed it years ago. Update your bait

>>11932197
>Golden Axe forever sucks.
you dont belong here

>>11930973
>Nintendo was just using fceux code.
It's open-source, so what's the issue?

>>11930386 (OP)
Anything on a flatscreen TV with input lag. I dont care if you play on CRT or lagless monitors, but playing with input delay is pure cancer. Retro games were designed with having no input lag in mind.

>>11932609
I just don't like beat em ups flat out, Golden Axe is a good one but I'm always bored by the second level.

>>11932623
NTA, but if they were they need to share their source code which they didn't. They started to with the SNES/NES classics.

>>11930446
>zoomers play games like this and unironically think they beat them

>>11932609
Golden Axe sucks. Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder's where it's at

>>11932607
keep licking shiggys boots

>>11930973
Man I thought they had in-house emulators developed by M2 for Virtual Console games

>>11932996
Anon, this is before M2 even existed and Nintendo does not give a shit, they were just selling 20 year old games for $20 that you could download for free and play with better options because Nintendo fans are idiots.

>>11930973
Didn't the old virtua console NES roms also have INES headers meaning Nintendo just used roms downloaded from the internet? I remember some shit like that.

>>11932984
Do your research before calling me that. Your admission of defeat is pathetic.

>>11930386 (OP)
Playing them while you're being raped and tortured

>>11933017
keep licking shiggys dick

>>11930393
>emulator cheats
>>>>>>>>>>QoL

>>11933047
It's bait.

>>11930386 (OP)
On a phone

>>11933047
Once you become an adult with responsibilities you will understand

>>11930386 (OP)
nothing wrong with nso for the vast majority of games. they fixed some of the n64 issues years ago. gamecube is currently fucked though

>>11933104
You did not beat the game. You are not entitled to experience satisfaction without putting in the effort.

>>11933150
>save stating to put the game down and resume later instantly because you are busy is bad because you skipped the VERY NECESSARY part of finding a save point, turning off the game, turning on the game, watch the intro and title screen then finally resume the game.

>>11930393
Only issue I have with OG hardware is a lot of the controllers suck

>>11933187
That's the only pro most of the time, I'm sick of using a duke/ps4 like controller for N64/GameCube games

>>11932623
they built the freaking console and you ask what's the issue in using third party code?

>>11931037
I cant for the fucking life of me find the original of that. Can anyone lend me a hand?

>>11930446
People do this and then have the audacity to say they've beaten the game.

>>11932607
Its harder to take a screenshot of how bad the input/audio lag still is so the old pic will have to do.

soul

>>11933705
>Not MK4 for more jankyness

>>11932626
I once played DKC2 from start to finish on a single evening on a dare on original hardware but on my friend's flatscreen TV. Hideous stretched out graphics and a tons of input lag...but I beat it. One of the most harrowing experiences of my life.

>>11930386 (OP)
On the ipod

Java phone "ports", especially on a tiny low resolution screen.
https://youtu.be/DCjHVyEY2II
Imagine this but it's cropped and scaled down even more to fit a 128x128 resolution.

>>11930419
Most of it is good and its presentation is pure soul.
[note: Galaxy Force II's music is fugged]

>>11930386 (OP)
>tfw tendies pay a monthly subscription to play from a limited ROMs catalogue
All of these years later, and tendies are still the joke of the industry, I guess some things really never change, and there's some comfort in that.

>>11933034
I’d rather lick the boot of a man who’s actually accomplished great things than listen to someone who has done actually nothing with their life. Stay in your lane.

>>11934818
It costs what 10 bucks? I guess if you’re a broke boy that needs to pirate everything that matters but to anyone with a job that’s nothing. The only joke is that you believe anyone cares what poors think.

>>11934818
They pay for online, emulation shit just comes as a bonus

>>11934889
You don't have to pay the full amount if you just want online I thought.

>>11934902
I think you only have to pay extra for the Gamecube and GBA games

>>11931312
>>11931321
As much as I hate Nintendo and would love that to be true, the source being cited there is one tumblr post and the 'evidence' in said post is 2 screenshots that just show how the iQue and NSO emulators have a couple similar menu entries

>>11934818
You don't get it, they think giving money to Nintendo is a positive in itself.

>>11934871
I have US$10 and I'm not poor, I'd just rather spend it on literally anything else than on this humiliation ritual that tendies somehow think is good.

>>11934889
Not really, as (>>11934906) mentined you do pay extra, for emulating a few ROMs alone, for some consoles. Also, even paying for online is ridiculous, though Microsoft and Sony did it first, so fuck them too, modern video games just suck.

>>11934916
It really seems that way, it's crazy to me.

>>11934926
>Not really
If you meant people who pay specifically to play old games and not because of online play then yeah they are pretty retarded

>>11934941
Both of them are equally retarded, there isn't a single game worth paying a subscription to play

>>11934967
>here isn't a single game worth paying a subscription to play
Yeah but that's a problem not exclusive to Nintendo honestly

>>11934856
i made pong

>>11930386 (OP)
You mean as far as official releases go? Cause you can always make things worse.

>>11930393
>worst way to /vr/ is og hardware
I wanted to disagree, but actually this is right. There are so many ways to adapt a controller to an emulator setup now that hardware is a moot point. I guess multiplayer games might be the only exception?

>>11935051
Screensharing with parce is more comfy than everyone sitting on the same couch

>>11933205
"Open-source" means anyone can use it. It doesn't exclude corporations just because you don't like them.

>>11930386 (OP)
Do these games have a bunch of input lag on switch or something? I can't react to shit on the donkey kong minecart levels

>>11935059
They still have to adhere to the license no matter how much of your tongue is on their boot.

>>11930393
The QoL is whatever outside of fast forward.
The bigger issue is having to deal with batteries.
>go to continue playing game
>all saves gone cause battery is failing

>>11935054
Yeah, sounds good to me.

>>11930386 (OP)
Any torrented/pirated copies online
>Not intended for that pc format
>Horrible lagging and other flaws in presentation
>More expensive then buying a console and game itself

>>11935326
I don't really understand what you mean

>>11935326
>torrented game more expensive "then" buying the console and game

>>11935339
Costs for a PC functional enough for this setup are more expensive than just about all console and game combinations in existence

>>11935346
Even third worlders can emulate thousands of games with their cheap 10 year old laptops and phones, really not getting your message there.

>>11935346
What if I play torrented/pirated copies on my console lmao

>>11935350
Nah, I have a 2000$ PC and it can barely run NES games. But it's okay if you are an emulatorfag who doesn't care about authenticity I guess

>>11935361
You don't need to lash out if you don't understand how to setup an emulator kid, just ask nicely and the anons will (most likely) help out.

>>11935350
And the emulation quality for those shitty laptops and phones is fucking horseshit and the worse way to play retro games since it it. To get it to a somewhat manageable quality (that is nothing still like the real experience) you are talking thousands range
>>11935353
If you sunk costs already then why not, have to cut your losses somehow. Still will be off for most games.

>>11935375
*since it is not meant for that and cannot keep up

>>11934818
I go in with a few friends and I pay 11 bucks a year for it plus online shit. Make some friends and stop being a broke bitch.

>>11935375
>you are talking thousands range
Nah more like tens of thousands if you are aiming to play 4th gen games. If you want PS1 then it's probably like a 10000000$ PC
>Still will be off for most games.
No shit. Playing a torrent remake made by god knows whom will never be the same as playing an authentic copy of an actual game made by actual professional devs
>>11935370
Go back zoomer

>>11935387
Thought you were just a sour grapes retarded kid but you're just trolling, 7/10 not bad

>>11935059
please never work for a firmware company

>>11935361
My $1000 PC (now worth about $500 cause the parts are all old) can run everything up to Wii flawlessly.
You do not have a $2000 PC.

>>11935757
>inaccurately

>>11935361
>I have a 2000$ PC and it can barely run NES games
FUCKING KEK

>>11935821
https://github.com/iaddis/metalnes
What can YOUR machine run it?

>>11930393
based, i still collect games and consoles but when i want to play i just emulate lmao

>>11935757
>flawlessly
Unless you're a zoomer who never actually played those games to notice the inaccuracies and think that simply having the games run at 60+ fps is enough to consider the emulation "flawless", you have no excuse to lie like this. It would take a very small amount of time to message the devs of these emulators, they'd confirm that it's far from flawless.

>>11935757
Atari 2600 games maybe but definitely not NES and beyond. And PCs don't even have cartridge slots so you can't really play authentic copies, you have to play torrented and pirated games that are WAY different. If you weren't a retarded zoomer you'd know that

>>11933549
https://youtu.be/OQiQk8AJ0YI?si=fHp6A4Vg2J770Mzj

>>11937957
Holy fuck thanks!