Thread 11937130

Many such cases

Western reviewers have always been some flavour of terrible. They have never been good for video games.

>>11937130 (OP)
These were the same idiots who in the same issue shit on SotN for being 2D and praised Castlevania 64 for being 3D.

>>11937142
Except this one, this game genuinely was shit

>>11937130 (OP)
>>11937206
Oh, you mean retarded brits? We already know, people post their shit takes all the time.

>>11937206
>These were the same idiots who in the same issue shit on SotN for being 2D and praised Castlevania 64 for being 3D.
You mean one britbong on a magazine before CV64 even started proper development, gushing over CGI footage. He was retarded but CV64 ultimately ended up being the better game and SotN derived too much from the previous 2D games.

More annoying is how 3D Mario was accepted over 2D Mario despite being entirely different and selling worse.

>>11937206
>These were the same idiots who in the same issue shit on SotN for being 2D and praised Castlevania 64 for being 3D.
That was a Nintendo only magazine doing the usual bit of cope propaganda

>>11937282
Some American magazines criticized Castlevania Bloodlines saying it was like an nes game. BORING, we want more FMV and Street Fighter 3D. Wouldn't be surprised if they said the same thing about Ristar, how dare someone release a pixel game after DKC.

>>11937282
Actually we had really good opinions, sorry you're self-hating.

>>11939978
Why do you have a hate boner for Megaman?

>>11937759
They were still making 2D Mario. It technically morphed into the Wario Land series.

>>11939978
Seriously, what the fuck

>>11940013
Such cynicism is truly pathetic. It's the only joke he had, too. Just hoo boy. Yikes!

>>11940009
The writing in this is so fucking cringey and terrible it makes me want to go back in time and shoot the author.

>>11940020
That was just 90's gamer culture. "Bright and colourful - gay shit. Get that out of my face". That's the entire reason the 00's was just wall to wall GTA and military shooters.

>>11940015
>megaman x is tedious, repetitive, unfair, messy
>how about zombies ate my neighbors as a palate cleanser?
I mean I don't hate zombies ate my neighbors but the fucking gall of this shithead.

>>11940015
>>11940013
>>11940015
>>11940073
megaman fanboys on suicide watch. such boring games. it's always great to see magazine reviews from when such things were released and compare it to the revisionist history vomited up by morons of today that weren't even born when this was released.

>>11940009
>>11940013
>>11940015
Who cares about mega cuck?

>>11940201
or the games were always good, and journalists have generally always been stupid faggots who you're a fool to listen to?

>>11940201
ngl, megaman is a bit doodoo. BUT those articles are pure dudebro shite. disappointing from the Brits, they invented English and yet those journalists basically regurgitated bubbles from their lips and drooled all over themselves.

Meanwhile, people now play the same games for 12 years straight

>>11940215
> they invented English and yet those journalists basically regurgitated bubbles
truly was a terrible period for british magazine journalism late 80s to 2000s. the trying to relate to the common punter dribble was just insulting to everyone's intelligence. i have no idea who started that shit but they should pay dearly for it. the register website still writes like fucking retards for whatever reason. it's a choice - sadly.

>>11937282
Bongistanis have made a sport of being as cynical and miserable as possible

>>11940234
>ESL comments on English writing - more at 11!

>>11940238
We're actually a jovial people if you stopped listening to communist operative propaganda about the working classes.

>>11940240
someone is mad. what's the matter, jimmy savile?

>>11940248
Count the number of English born paedophiles who are not societal elites versus the number of dirt poor brown rape apes that are paedohpiles by default.

>>11940251
> jimmy savile is raging
it's not /vr/'s fault that your own citizens write like utter fucking retards to pander to simpletons such as yourself. good luck with your remaining iq point. 1 seems to be too many points for you to handle.

>>11937130 (OP)
Dude, I knew today it feels ridiculous. But, c'mon, people back in the day would laugh at you for buying this. Imagine it's 1995. We're moving to 3D, and you're buying space shooters like it's early SNES era? These games rightfully were considered bargain bin core.
You fucks also forget that: games cost money. $50 in 1995 would be $100 or more today. So… Imagine being a kid, you took time to save $100, and instead of a new fancy 3D game, you buy… this? For your $800 ($399 in 1995) machine?
It's so cool to yap about "bad mags" when you're in 2025 and you just download an ISO for free.

>>11940257
ESL, thank you for your time.

My favorite stupid review was some nutcase giving James Bond on GameBoy a 1/10 just because an NPC asked Bond to find a hammer for him.

>>11940368
Hahahaha

>>11940240
>>11940263
Calling others ESLs is not an argument.

>>11940201
I didn't know the reviewer posted on /vr/!

>>11937130 (OP)
(((Game Journos))) have always been the cancer ruining gaming.

>>11937130 (OP)
The second 3d became viable suits and anyone considered to be in the business became with the idea that shit needed to be 3d and "new" rathet than good. Rags like these shitty british game mags would unironically tell you that Castlevania 64 looks better than Sotn.

>>11940408
>Rags like these shitty british game mags would unironically tell you that Castlevania 64 looks better than Sotn
Official UK Nintendo Magazine
You might have seen the part at the bottom of page 5 before

>>11940414
Nintendo mags during the N64/GC era were cope central. I'm not surprised the people who grew up with them became deranged.

>>11940421
I think only the UK magazine was this bad
I don't recall Nintendo Power ever talking shit about Sony though I might be wrong

>>11940414
I actually like c64 but in what world do you compare sotns bosses as being big cheesybmonsters compared to anything in c64. Did any of them ever play a castlevania game?

>>11940014
Wario Land plays entirely different and was relegated to portable consoles until the Wii game.

>>11940013
Sometimes it really feels like the only reaction the non-weeb westerner had to japanese products was to just say "erm, colors? uh, big eyes? whaaaaat?" over and over until it overtook their own productions.

>>11940432
Don't seek the logic, it wasn't even the actual game (which didn't start development in proper yet) but some CGI footage. It's like if you bragged about the PlayStation being better against the N64 if you showed some FMV shots from FFVII vs Yoshi's Story.

Speaking of Yoshi's Story, someone should check what the magazine had to say about it and other 2D N64 games.

>>11940201
I wasn't so mad about criticizing megaman x as using zombies ate my neighbors of all things as a respite from repetition and unfairness.

>>11937130 (OP)
>>11937146
Western reviewers were always a spitting image of an average person who plays video games and that's why they were largely successful until internet knocked them off the pedestal. And that average person didn't want to play fucking shmups in 1995.

>>11940430
Nintendo Power's stance was basically "the competition doesn't even exist". They would never bring up Sega or Sony, not even to make fun.

>>11937130 (OP)
It is compared to Soukyugurrentai

>>11940481
8 Page tips/review section, but here's the relevant part.

>>11940481
>OI BRUV THIS BANGAI-O SHITE IS RUBBISH

>>11940520
But just the other day on /vr/ another anon told me the anti-2D bias of the 5th gen wasn't real!

>>11940542
Yes anon, a couple of paid people who reviewed free copies of games provided by the publisher totally represent the entire market.

>>11940009
They gave a bad review for every single Mega Man game, that shit's pretty funny. They're all great games (except X7 obviously)

>>11940009
>>11940013
>coloracolorscolors
Was it autism?

>>11940015
>you can't run away to the start of the level (for no reason)
>you have to be dextrous and press many buttons to play optimally
>this is bad

Why are western videogame people incapable of understanding action design?

>>11940201
Retrospective perspectives are more valid. Contemporary views are always loaded with nonsense.

Castlevania 64 is better than SOTN and Mega Man Legends was always dogshit. Cope more.

>>11940671
>Says the man coping

>>11940262
We're all aware everyone were graphic whores back then and, while understandable in context, it's cringe.
It's not any different from people who think that Resident Evil 4 Remake "fixed" the original. Just general misunderstanding of game design.

>>11940015
Then these people will look you straight in the eyes and tell you Dizzy Goes to Tesco on the Speccy is the best game ever.

>>11940414
I can see that at the time. Yeah, SotN has obviously aged better, but at the time it just looked like a souped-up SNES game. The N64 titles were trying to push the technology and bring the gameplay into 3D which was probably considered more visually striking.

Now Roise of the Robot on the Amiger
That's a roight classic

>>11940671
>Mega Man Legends was always dogshit
It's alright, just not as good as the extremely vocal minority would have you believe. It's one of those cases like Final Fantasy 7 where I like the game but hate the fanbase because they're annoying.

>>11940683
Aye, proper bonkers tellyludo

>>11940015
What surprises me the most is that he thinks R-Type 3 is a fair game you can keep coming back to, but the extremely casual MMX is somehow this hardcore game with an unbalanced design where you're overwhelmed by the many respawning enemies while dealing with way too many buttons. I think I beat it when I was 10. Also, saying you can't run away from monsters in a game where you can dash jump over many, to me means he must have been playing without dashing all that much because he had no dexterity to do so, which would indeed make the game a hard annoying slog.

>>11940262
>$50 in 1995 would be $100 or more today. So… Imagine being a kid, you took time to save $100, and instead of a new fancy 3D game, you buy… this?
You didn't buy games like that, you rented them,

>>11940704
not to mention games went down in price very quickly, unlike current Nintendo which keeps them at full price forever

>>11940681
>graphics whores
Imagine tomorrow GTAVI comes out for $100. Imagine also that a new 2D shmup comes out same day for $100. What are you buying, Mr. Graphics Whore?
Also, you don't understand that the jump to 3D was mind-blowing. You were moving from DKC2 and Yoshi's Island in 1995 to Crash, TR and RE in 1996. Most people haven't even experienced 3D games at home yet. This was literally the biggest jump ever in video games. And then some smartass like you says 30 years later: "ackshually 3D was overrated".
>>11940704
I doubt many wanted to rent that.

>>11937130 (OP)
Love TAITO F3 hardware those superscaler effects are totally bitching on a real crt.

>>11940262
>You got this 99% arcade perfect port of a game the operator had to pay 2500 usd for.
Sweet deal

>>11937130 (OP)
>>11940513
Japanese magazines solved this by having 3 archetypes take on it,
Casual, Hardcore and Woman.

>>11941018
Please continue pretending to be retarded

>>11937142
>reuses tons of assets
>one of konami's laziest games
>the castle you're walking into in the foreground is also in the background

no this game was legitimately shit

>>11941000
I was playing DKC2 religiously in 1996. I didn't care at all about 5th gen until 1997, when they started to actually get good games. And then, it was because they were new and exciting, not because they were 3d, which yes, everyone who was into video games had played before, and possibly even owned, even if they didn't have a richfag PC thanks to stuff like Star Fox.

>>11940262
Rayforce is one of the best games ever so it'd be worth it.

>>11940683
Every review for this game was positive.
Everywhere.

I genuinely can't tell if reviewers were this retarded that they couldn't tell a decent fighter to a bad one, or if it's a case of paid reviews, or both.

>>11941682
>"Stop your revisionism, everyone praised game X back in the day"
>"Everyone " is a small sample of mags and 2 kids from school
>Said mags prove time after time reviewers were retards

>>11940073
If it's a Brit rag, don't they mean just "Zombies" with the masked maniacs swinging axes instead of chainsaws?

>>11940262
Is this how zoomers think?

>>11941682
Paid reviews were ALWAYS a thing

>>11941000
>Imagine tomorrow GTAVI comes out for $100. Imagine also that a new 2D shmup comes out same day for $100. What are you buying, Mr. Graphics Whore
Unironicaly the shmup

>>11941000
>Imagine also that a new 2D shmup comes out same day for $100
NTA but I'd genuinely get more gameplay out of the shmup.
I say this as someone old enough to have experienced the big change over to 3d as it happened, and I still bought a ton games with 2d sprites/assets at the time.

>>11937142
I can't believe the disrespect this game still gets from some people. Easily the best 16bit Vania if you don't suck ass at videogames.

>>11941682
100% paid reviews. Did you think that was something new?