Thread 11939168

They're both too simple and archaic to go back to nowadays. Gaming didn't really start until the PSX, and even that's being charitable.

Cool. Next thread.

Very true.
I really loved playing SOTN so I tried out the SNES game Super Castlevania 4 or whatever... it's just too hard for me, and it's boring because all you do is combat. Where's the exploration? It's basically a one-hour long arcade quarter-muncher, fucking dogshit.

>>11939172
>Where's the exploration?
go play super metroid then, zoomer

>>11939168 (OP)
How?

>no cutscenes
>no voice acting
>no analog stick
>no rumble
>no online
>SD potato quality graphics
>bleep bloop music

>>11939195
>half of the games are simple arcadeshit that barely last an hour
>the other quarter is jarpigs that takes 50 hours of grinding with extremely basic combat
>other quarter is metroidtranias

>good things are actually bad
o wow thanx I'm glad that a 15-year-old boy made a forum so he could chat about anime with his online buddies because it also means that I can find out that everything is bad, how could I have gone on ever thinking that anything might be good, thank you past Moot, thank you so much, and thank you OP for carrying on this grand heritage of informing everyone about the evil universe

It's really strange how people here think that the PS1 is like some kind of turning point of sophisticated gameplay, when in actuality the overwhelming majority of PS1 are nothing mechanically mindblowing or deep, including all of the system's most famous games. We're talking about a console that had a nerfed version of Theme Park, a 1994 computer game.

boomers btfo

>>11939207
>a 1994 computer game.
the playstation came out in 94. your point?

>>11939203
But enough about the PS1

>>11939203
What does simple mean in this context?

>>11939209
Oh, sorry, is playing a nerfed version of a game from the launch year of your console supposed to be a good thing? Because I wouldn't exactly call it that. All of the extremely CPU and memory intensive games were on computer. PS1 had nothing like Age of Empires, it had very simple games for its entire lifespan.

>>11939207
>It's really strange how people here think that the PS1 is like some kind of turning point of sophisticated gameplay
I thought it was the NES that was the turning point? Can't wait for this board's next rule change when PS3 games will be the new turning point.

>>11939259
NES games are basically just atari shit
SNES games are basically just NES shit
It's all the same quarter muncher garbage.

>/v/ tourist wants attention
here you go: (You)

>>11939362
it's actually a /vr/ tranny that's bored, nothing happens here

>>11939168 (OP)
Gaming did not really start until Tennis for Two (1958)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2V3axQ7SN3c

>>11939403
This just made me think, what's the earliest known example of video game smack talk? Is there a news article somewhere with two 105 year old men talking shit over Noughts and Crosses?

>>11939259
The NES was nothing compared to the 8 and 16 bit computers

Atari 800/600
Vic 20/Commodore 64
Atari ST /Amiga
Spectrum 48 and 128K
Acorn BBC and Archimedes
TRS80 and TI994A
Apple IIe
268 PC
8088 PC
If you really think that the NES was more important to gaming than the 8 and 16 bit computers you really know fuck all. How the fuck do you even think software was even developed for it? Stop with the nintendo bullshit, it's just tedious nonsense. It was not ecen groundbreaking in for,, the 2600 was the design that brought the TV RF connection, the cartridge rom etc. Seriously un fuck your brain from the tendie slop posting. Even when the NES was around arcade machines were way more influential, it was just a port box

OP Can you explain to be why Zork or colossal cave or Pong are not games?

>>11939439
Auster, the meds

>>11939403
it was all downhill from here

>>11939168 (OP)
Only in 2d games. Ps1 has big problems rendering 3d and 3d games didn't get good until ps2

>>11939439
>6502 running at 1.79 MHz
>2 KB work RAM
>still a better game library than the Amiga
lmao

>>11939168 (OP)
>Gaming didn't really start until the PSX, and even that's being charitable.
PS2 is like TV getting colors
>>11939197
This, save for a few exceptions

>>11939439
None of those computers could even do proper scrolling.

>>11939168 (OP)
I almost feel that way about the Atari 2600 sometimes, but the SEGA Genesis an the Super Nintendo? lol gtfo Both systems offer rich tapestries in terms of gameplay, palette, and rich stories, but I hear you. This may be a generational thing.

>>11939197
I wonder how this anon feels about Valis II.

>>11939168 (OP)
Fuck off retard

>>11939168 (OP)
What do you mean, most 2.5d games play similarly to B tier 16 bit games and its not like modern stuff like Uncharted or The Last of Us are that much different to Terminator 2 on snes and genesis. Most modern games are just to walk to a thing, press a button for a thing to happen, they are basically Prince of Persia.

>>11939713
I often find later Snes and Gen games too modern, long unstoppable intros and boring cutscenes interfering with the gameplay. I was playing this game called Metal Warriors on Snes and thinking how while the graphics are amazing that the intro and transitions would be so much quicker if it was on nes, it would probably also start out with hardcore action.

>>11939771
Cutscenes should always be skippable, even the first time out.

Template thread.

>>11939923
They're both too simple and archaic to go back to nowadays. Gaming didn't really start until the clay marble, and even that's being charitable.

Your bait threads are getting worse.

>>11939208
boomers played pong

you're off by 35 to 45 years you dumb fag

millenials are 35

boomers are 65

>>11939168 (OP)
>PSX
But playstation was shit even back then. Couldnt do proper 2D. And the 3D games wobbled like crap.

>>11939168 (OP)
ah sweet, a troll thread

>>11940042
>the 3D games wobbled
The polygons wobble because there's so much soul it can barely be contained

>>11939174
SM's combat and platforming are shit.
It took SOTN's superior gameplay to make that genre relevant, which is why today they're called Metroidvanias instead of simply Metroidlikes/Metroidclones.

>>11939403
The only resident expert in video games on this entire website here and indeed the internet, objectively. The objectivity of this claim is done through peer review, but due to me being peerless I can only ask myself and I agree with my statement.

This is not a video game as no digital computing is being done which, as we all know, is a requirement for video games.

Now let's give Mr. Anon the benefit of doubt and assume he meant gaming. We'll ignore playing as gaming as it's not reasonable defined, but even the lesser experts that are below me agree that play is gaming. The earliest conclusive gaming implements my minions have found are dated as ~5000 years old. I'd say that predates Tennis For Two by some years and we can thus conclude that gaming started ~5000 years ago in the narrowed definition.

You could say that video came up short. I hope you reconsider your choice of video, preferably something at least 4 hours long.

>>11940042
> Couldnt do proper 2D
The gpu in the psx is entirely 2d, it has zero concept whatsoever of what 3d is.

>>11939203
>medroidtranias
KEK

>>11939197
You can get the Sega CD and play all the FMV pre-rendered D-tier pseudo movie barely qualifies as a game slop all you want. In fact it was extremely ahead of it's time in that way.

>>11941259
Good point

Sega Genesis/Mega Drive + CD:

Turn based: After Armageddon, Aisle Lord, Arslan Senki, Cosmic Fantasy CD, Dark Wizard, Langrisser 1&2, Legend Wukong, Lunar 1&2 [unworked patch], Phantasy Star 2&4, Pier Solar, Shining Force 1/2/CD, Shining in the Darkness [Antigrinding patch], Vixen 357

Narrative: Illusion City, Rise of the Dragon, Snatcher, Space Adventure Cobra

Side Action: Alien Soldier, Annet Futatabi, Alisia Dragoon, Blades of vengeance, Castlevania Bloodlines, Cave Story, Comix Zone, Contra Hard Corps, Cyborg 009 CD, Dahna, Demolition Man CD, Earthworm Jim 1 CD, El Viento, Exile, Ex Mutants, Gargoyles Ultimate, Gunstar Heroes, Mega Man Wily Wars [Weapon Master] & Sequel Wars, Mega Turrican, Midnight Resistance, Popful Mail [unworked], Pulseman, Ranger X, Rent A Hero, Rocket Knight 1&2, Shinobi 3, Shadow Dancer, Pirates of Dark Water, Streets of Rage 2 & 3 DX, Strider, Terminator CD, Twinkle Tale, Valis 1&3, Wolfchild CD, Monster World 3&4, XMen 2, Ys III

Platform: Animaniacs, Ecco 2 CD, Flashback, Out of This World, Generations Lost, Flink [speed hack], Highseas Havoc, Taruruuto, Marvel Land, Mickey Mania CD, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, Pantufa, Pitfall CD, Prince of Persia 1 CD & 2 (Remastered), Quackshot, Ristar, Socket, Sonic (Classic Heroes, 3 Complete, Mega Mix CD, S-Factor, Mobius Evolution, Hellfire Saga), Lost Vikings,

Shmup: Darius, heavy unit, hellfire, Keio Squadron, Gleylancer, Gaiares, Gynoug, Lords Thunder, MUSHA, Robo Aleste, Panorama Cotton, Thunder Force 2/3/4, Trouble Shooter 1&2, Truxton, Zero Wing

Top Down: Arcus 1/2/3/Odyssey, Beyond Oasis, Crusader Centy, Landstalker [Mijet controls hack], Light Crusader, Skeleton Krew, Techno Clash, The Chaos Engine, Shadow Run, Tougiou King Colossus, Traysia, True Lies, Xenocrisis, Mega Bomberman, Twinkle Tale, ZAMN [wide hack]

Other: Columns, Marble Madness, Mean Bean, Rock N Roll Racing, Devilish, klax,

SNES:

Platform: Magical Popn, Mario World, Sicari 1&2, Sparkster, Violinist of hamelin, Yoshi's Island [No Crying patch]

Sidescrolling Action/Shmup/Etc: Actraiser 1&2, Axelay, Black Thorne, Castlevania 4, Contra 3, Demon Crest, Front Mission Gun Hazard, Ghost Sweeper Mikami, Goemon 1-4, Hagane, Majuu Ou, Mega Man 7 [Refit hack], MM7 EP, MM X1 [Capsule hack], MM X2, MM X3 [Zero Project], Metal Warriors, Metroid 3, Musya, Psycho Dream, Run Saber, Skyblazer, Teenage Turtles In Time, The Great Battle 4&5, Wild guns, Xmen Apocalypse, Youkai Buster

Top Down Action: Alcahest, Bomberman 2-5, Crystal Beans, Ghoul Patrol, Goof Troop, Gunman's Proof, Illusion of Gaia, Marvelous, Pocky Rocky 1&2, Secret of Mana [Turbo hack], Soul Blazer, Terranigma, Firemen, Spike McFang, Trials of Mana [Sin of Mana hack], Xak, Ys V, Zelda 3, ZAMN

RPG: Aretha II, Nekketsu Tairiku, Chrono Trigger, Energy Breaker, Eternal Filena, Far East Eden 0, FF4 Ultima, FF5 Void Divergence, FF6 (Divergent Paths, Brave New World, Tsushiy Edition), Fire Emblem 3-5, Ihatovo, Lennus 2, Live a Live, Lufia 2, Megami Tensei Old Testament, Monstania, Ogre Battle, Lodoss War, Robotrek, SMT II, Last Bible III, Mario RPG, Shadowrun, Super Shell Monster Story 1&2, Tales of Phantasia, Hourai High, Wozz, Treasure Treasure Hunter G, Treasure of the Rudras

>>11939168 (OP)
>luv' me speccy
>luv' me nes
>luv' me master system
>luv me amiga
>luv' me snes
>luv' me mega drive
>luv' me pc
>luv' me playstation
simple as

>>11939168 (OP)
I think emulation hurts 4th gen because it's a refined generation that's mostly about following the leading sellers and tweeking it. You'll find a depth of beat em ups in 4th gen, if you have every game at your disposal it's hard to stick with any game and there isn't a ton of variety compared to 3rd/5th gen. That said who the fuck can really say it's hard to go back to? Just play the shit you like

>>11939168 (OP)
super famicom wars is really fun anon

>>11939168 (OP)
zoomers are so cringe especially considering they weren't born for any of this shit