Thread 11942151

2>1=4>>3
What's your guys' favorite game from the series?

>>11942151 (OP)
All of them suck and nobody actually likes these games

>>11942151 (OP)
Op here please don't make fun of me using a double > by accident, thank you.

>>11942153
Name one (1) 3D dungeon crawler that has a better world and level design than the King's Field games? The games OOZE atmosphere you little man.

>>11942153
You’re on the wrong board.

>>11942171
Baroque

>>11942205
Baroque is trash

4>3>1>2 for me. 4's just the strongest game in terms of everything, like name any aspect of King's Field and it's just at its best in 4. One of my favorite PS2 games and one of my absolute favorites period. Okay the final boss kinda sucks compared to even the first game and the turning speed is very slow but that's about it, everything else is top notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXsDIylp34
It's interesting how all of the other PS2 FROM games suck ass compared to their PS1 predecessors but with King's Field it was actually the opposite, they just went all out

>>11942171
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2 by a country mile

>>11942151 (OP)
The Dark Souls of retro games

>>11942151 (OP)
>2
>above anything
fromdrone poser detected
>>11942205
>>11942252
even Slop Field 2 is better than that turd Baroque or the glorified tech demos of UU
>>11942218
>4>3>1>2
based that's the correct ranking
and there is cheat codes for KF4 speeding up the slow turning speed and other stuff like making climbing ladders less shit

I like 2 more than 4 by a little, and 4 more than 3 by a little more than a little. Haven't played 1.

>>11942294
3 is easily the worst, its giant field-like levels aren't exactly thrilling game design.

>>11942218
Yeah i like 4 the best. The only thing holding it down is the camera speed.

>>11942309
>field-like levels
Well...

>>11942317
...

>>11942325
This is the King's Field III of the N64

>>11942309
>giant field-like levels aren't exactly thrilling game design.
but enough talking about KF2
3 is a more focused and polished experience while 2 was sloppy and bloated

>>11942171
System Shock 1

>>11942332
Have you ever played KF2? What fields are even in the game? You start on the coast and most of the game is inside.

>>11942317
The world's first field-type game

>>11942376
It's not hyperbole to say that most people here don't actually play games.

>>11942171
plenty? kf2 at least doesn't have a particularly good layout at all and the gameplay is kind of meh, really the only thing it has going for it is the atmosphere

>>11942376
the indoor areas are basically huge empty fields with mine carts and random shit
it's called King's FIELD for a reason you retard
also in 3 you spend most of the time inside dungeons and shit too but you didn't play past the first 15 minutes you poser

>>11942645
You're literally making fibs up you fat sack of crap. KF3 is notorious for having open areas with nothing in them.

>>11942218
4 has some really fucked up design decisions. Getting a weapon to level 3 to use sword magic is way too grindy, and the opportunity to make it not so grindy with blacksmith upgrades is instead wasted on pointless +1 damage increases. Magic is super limited unless you equip one specific ring which QUINTUPLES your MP for no real downside, even though the description sounds like it's a significant tradeoff. The maps are barely readable and pretty much useless for actual navigation until you get the 3D magic map. Heavier weapons are comically disadvantaged compared to smaller ones, both swing speed and recovery times are so bad that they're nearly useless. The final boss sucks ass too. Good level design and obviously the best production values but I think 2 is better designed overall. Haven't really started on 3 yet to comment on it but reaching floor 4 has just killed any chance that 1 had of being better than 2 in my eyes.

>>11942294
UU1 is one of the best first-person RPG dungeon-based games ever made. There are still not many games that come close to being as immersive and fun as UU1 was for me.

>>11942720
and KF2 have nothing inside or outside, a barebones bloated slop
>>11942761
you can always tell a UU poser from the fact he always sucks off 1 while ignoring 2 despite the latter being the better game

>>11942840
>2 better than 1
HAHAHAHAHAHA
let me guess, you're actually someone who think Ultima Underworld is an Ultima game? jesus fucking christ.....

I played and beat kf1jp but got filtered by its sequel kf2jp or kf1us. Got lost around the ant cave and couldn’t figure out where to go and lost interest in the game. I remember making some maps so I put some effort into the game. I think it’s an inherently flawed game because you should simultaneously have
>slow movement speed
>large interconnected world with backtracking and maze like areas

It just makes it too tedious to figure out where to go. I don’t mind slow movement and I don’t mind some mazes and I don’t mind the game being semi open world but if you at some point don’t know where to go you essentially get punished by the game playing it just walking trying to explore and figure out what the fuck to do. While the graphics of the sequel were much better and the core gameplay was good in the sequel the better experience imo was the original game. If you got lost in the original game you more or less knew whatever the solution was, was on the floor you were on. So you didn’t waste your time going to distant areas fucking around for no effect.

>>11942153
You say this EVERY thread.

>>11942294
Word filter "slop".

>>11943076
Yes 2 is a confusing mess. If you still want to go back to finish it just use gamefaqs maps
>>slow movement speed
Anon there is a run button lmao

>>11942151 (OP)
I got pretty far in 2, played a couple hours of 3. From the two, I'd pick 2, since I prefer the smaller, denser interconnected map.
I'm willing to try 4 some day.

>>11943076
You have to hold x to run, guy. And they’re not ants, they’re termites. You have to kill the big one to progress.

2 > 1 > 4 > 3
Obviously

>>11942151 (OP)
Pilot style

3>2>4>1

>>11943407
It’s been so long idk if I even knew about the run button this was in like 2014 2015 ish.


>>11943428
What happens when you kill the ant? I think it killed me enough time I assumed it was either unkillable or a monster you can bypass and return to kill later. I don’t think I ever beat it and I’m pretty sure I assumed it was like that giant squid.

>>11942151 (OP)
i think i like 4 and 1 the most. they're all good though.

>>11943129
He's right, who the fuck actually plays old games nowadays?

>>11945319
>What happens when you kill the ant? I think it killed me enough time I assumed it was either unkillable
There's advice written on a nearby wall telling you to try a bow. It worked well against the giant termite.

>>11942325
holy shit i love this image, may i save it?

>>11945359
90% of the videogames I play are retro. And yes I actually play videogames. I've beaten 14 games this year.

>>11945319
There's a boy behind the termite queen who lives in the nearby village. He gives you a key and you get access to the rest of the village which includes the crystal artisan.

>>11945374
Proof?

>>11943407
Do people really need maps in KF?

>>11945401
The maps in-game are pretty decent (except for 4's), I can't imagine needing to look up a completed map for anything in 2. The most confusing points of progress aren't anything a map would help you with anyway.

>>11945319
He has a lot of health. It’s the first real challenge in the game. You need to use the bow. Or if you got the fire crystal you can stun lock him by alternating fireballs and sword swings.

>>11945401
Maps are ingame similar to DOOM, of course they are useful.

>>11945438
beat him pure melee my first time because i'm an idiot. i would not recommend it. but at least it was possible.

>>11945359
If you haven’t played metal fatigue the RTS on PC you can’t post here.

>>11945372
How was I supposed to knoooooooow (that the bow could kill the giant ant) maybe I will go back and try it again at some point. I don’t think it was a good idea for them to have the avoidable giant squid at the start because that was probably why I just gave up and started looking for an alternate route.


>>11945386
So how far into the game was I when I encountered the giant ant? I feel like I wasn’t very far into the game which was also probably why I thought it could be bypassed. I thought I could return with stronger gear to kill it.


>>11945401
The reason I had made the map I think was to keep track of which areas I had 100% explored because I was convinced there was something I was missing and there was a hidden secret or something I was missing. It’s easier on paper to just cross areas out you have swept and that’s different than you having walked through them briefly. just because you have been to that area of the map doesnt mean you inspected everything closely.
>>11945438
In retrospect I’m surprised I didn’t use the bow to kill the ant. I’m sure I would have tried so maybe I ran out of arrows or something? or maybe I forgot I had it. No clue. What is it about giant ants in games soft locking you? I remember when I played fallout 3 and left the vault I first went to that city that was populated with giant fire breathing ants and I had no armor and was leveled for melee attacks and got rekt.

>>11945496
>How was I supposed to knoooooooow (that the bow could kill the giant ant)
For me, NPCs implied a kid had a key, was in termite cave, I had nowhere better to go, and the text recommended a bow (which I forgot even existed)

After killing the boss I got stuck in an underground cave and didn't know about the savepoint warp so I had to redo the whole thing.

>>11942294
Calling Ultima Underworld a glorified tech demo when comparing it to King's Field 1, a literal tech demo, is wild.

>>11945359
Nice false-flag post to try and descredit the original poster. Fag.

>>11945373
It's all yours my friend.

>>11945616
>is wild
Go back to a retro gaming subreddit you zoomer, holy shit.

>>11942153
fpwp

>>11942205
Baroque isn't really the same genre as King's Field but I enjoyed it immensely

>>11945946
He's Australian.

>>11945932
Heard this in the Zelda CD-i shopkeeper voice.

3
2
4
1
Unless Shadow Tower is involved in which case it's
3
Shadow Tower
2
Shadow Tower Abyss
4
1

>>11942151 (OP)
ive only played 2 (released in the longbox as king's field). it was a very early ps1 game for me. i never got very far. i loved the dreary atmosphere of the game but it was just too hard for me at that age. ive tried revisiting it but the fucking controls man.

>>11947105
It will click and then you will feel conan the barbarian

>>11942151 (OP)
For me it's the Ancient City. Love the huge multi level design it has.

>>11942294
Ultima Underwold is so far ahead of KF it's not even funny. KF is so simplistic it's not even fair to compare them.

>>11947183
>Ultima Underwold
Dull game

>>11947191
UU offers roleplay posibilities which KF never had.

>>11947205
I don't roleplay, I only pay attention

>>11947175
Making progress in the tower and seeing the central hub again from another angle was really cool

>>11947257
I finished this game like 10 times and to this day I have no idea why the idol was brought to the prince and by who. It should be with the Sword Master.

are any of the modern "kingsfield-likes" any good?
Lunacid?
Dread Delusion?

>>11947496
Nope

>>11947512
why not?
kf is ancient

>>11947496
Lunacid is somewhat close. Dread Delusion is more open-world with dialogues and skill checks, so not really like KF.

>>11947496
No

>>11947496
There is also Pale Abyss. It's very short but free.

>>11947519
Get out

>>11947496
Majuular did a video of them, check them out if anything strikes your fancy

>>11947205
first you said UU has better atmosphere, now you say it has better roleplaying. Kings field isnt even a role playing game. What kind of argument is that?

>>11947601
>Kings field isnt even a role playing game.
zoom zoom

>>11942212
It's not. The visuals and atmosphere are kino of the highest order. I'm talking about the PS1 original, not the gay PS2 anime remake.

>>11947621
>the PS1 original
Oh... oh no... they are coming anon

>>11942151 (OP)
4 >>> 1 > 2 > haven't played 3 cause I never finished 2

>>11947631
what console is that

>>11947667
Sega Saturn

>>11942205
>world
Absolutely
>level design
Huh???? Its a Mystery Dungeon game, you literally walk down randomly assorted copy/pasted rooms and hallways for the whole game plus a few benchmark floors that are always the same.

>>11947670
rare ty

I thought they were all OK in emulation. I liked 2 and 3 enough to replay them with the mouse injector mod (I don't want to hear pissy /vr/ slav bitching about it, I played them normally first) and a lot of tinkering with CPU overclocks and such that made them feel like '90s PC games, so I guess they were my favorites.

>>11947701
The og controls are kino you punk

>>11942151 (OP)
Still need to get back into it, 1 is an amazing game, 2 I dropped out of after about 20 hours. It seems so much more complicated, lots of paths with how you can sell the spell crystals.
I actually started 4 so I should go back. Right at the beginning where you go in the mines. I thought it has an uncanny horror quality to it.

so what's with all the sci-fi stuff at the end of king's field 2?

>>11948913
Common in old RPGs, FF1 and Ys 2 did that too. Anons in one of the threads said it went back to Ultima

>>11947608
>but the advertising says rpg!
Okay bro. It’s an action game. All your stats are leveled passively. Is zelda an rpg? Retard.
>>11947631
I’m getting called a zoomer by people that think baroque is a ps1 game lord jesus
>>11948895
KF2 is maybe a 12 hour game without guides..
>>11948913
This was a trend in japanese entertainment at the time. That typa shit that inspired the Matrix

>>11948913
>>11949376
It goes back further even than that. Japan didn't get BECMI or Sword World or even LOTR til the late 1980s, so a lot of their vision of Western fantasy was informed by texts like Jorge Luis Borges "Book of Imaginary Beings" and movies like Star Wars (Japan had the biggest box office return for that film outside of the US, it was huge).

>>11948913
Ummm spoiler??

>>11949626
You gotta be kidding lol

>>11949479
>game calls itself an rpg
>the fans call it an a rpg
>you: isn't there someone you forgot to ask??
does blud really

2>4>1>Additional 1&2 >Pilot Style>3

>>11949902
Youre a faggot

>>11950231
>delusional schizoid
>is also imagining gay people everywhere
damn bro your brain really all messed up

>>11949902
>you can choose what order you play the dungeons after the first boss
>armor and weapon upgrades as you progress
>elemental attacks drain energy meter that needs to be replenished
Heres that rpg you were talking about.

>>11950448
>you can choose what order you play the dungeons after the first boss
wtf why is there a fixed first boss in these games wtf is this railroaded crap

>>11950448
Did mmx have stats?

>>11950482
yes