Thread 11950378

This is an arcade blowout!
We got Sega games, Taito games, Namco games, Psikyo games, Kaneko games, Capcom games, Irem games…
We got candy cabs, upright cabs, twin racing cabs, deluxe sitdowns, emulators…
We got fighters, racers, beat’em ups, light gun shooters, quiz games,
We got pristine CRTs, burned CRTs, scanlines filters…
We got 1CC runs, 2ALL clears, No Miss plays, save states and full-on credit feeding…
We even got PCB repairs, cap kits, monitor swaps, JAMMA
Come on, you want arcade? Come on in, arcade lovers!

I just use FinalBurn Neo, works on my machine

>>11950390
I don't follow emulators much now, Wasn't the project FBN dead for a couple of years now even after the FBA drama?

>>11950408
Yes, but it works. It's like Kega. No need to iterate on perfection.

>>11950501
none of those emulator have any precisions or accuracy to them, they are just easy to use for the braindead users.

>>11950536
>they are just easy to use

>>11950378 (OP)
Play Twinkle Star Sprites

>>11951152
There's a Twinkle manga? I only have the artbook for the game. Saturn version, I believe.

Only game I ever 1CC'd is Money Idol Exchanger.

>Got myself a recalbox dual rgb2 with a pi5 for 2D arcade games
>got 2 21" tvs one for hori and other verticals
>About to pull my hair out from fucking around with retroarch inputs
>I think I get it, then magically apparently I don't, sometimes autofire works fine other times the stupid damn setting does'nt want to save, other times I can save everything except the autofire rate
Why couldn't you just be like MAME....

>>11951267
>There's a Twinkle manga?
It's doujinshi.
>artbook for the game. Saturn version, I believe.
That's the only one

>Money Idol Exchanger
Pretty strange game. Cute stuff though.

Sega Model 2, CPS1 and 2, Titan, and of course, neogeo are my favorite formats. What a magical time the later arcade era was.

>>11951273
I am play with original hardware mostly, but I try from time to time things like aje pcbs, and others RPI solutions.
Recalbox like any other arcade related hardware is designed by people who let say don't have common (minus Darksoft who do really awesome but expensive plug and play solution)

Regarding your problem It either it assign your controller to a new a new input everytime you boot and other time the input file is on conflict with the original file and something make it read only. try a new install it may work better after that.

If you use a arcade stick, best solution for autofire is an dedicated +5v pcb you put inside (I have those on my Cocktail table) you can even build it yourself for less than 5 dollars. Good luck

>>11951363
>Why yes, I have really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look, how could you tell?

>>11951349
People can’t imagine how mind-blowing Model 2 was. We went from a simple tech demo on Model 1 to the absolute monster that was Model 2 in less than a year and it ended up with almost as many games as the CPS2.

I fucking love The Grid, bros.

I know that there are bootleg PGM carts of Ketsui, DoJ Black Label and ESPGALUDA but has anyone seen a White label one?

>>11951324
>doujinshi
I'm not a faggot, so you'll have to explain that to me.

>>Money Idol Exchanger
>Pretty strange game. Cute stuff though.
You definetly should try it. Be sure to play it with a stick or you will have the sorest of thumbs.

>>11950536
Speak fucking English

>>11951495
I never seen one personnaly.

>>11951495
>>11951584
What is a "White label cart"? One produced/sanctioned by Cave/IGS?

>>11951602
white label is the orignal version of DoDonPachi DOJ before the Black label updates.

>>11950536
outzone is fucking horrible

I want to 1cc Time Crisis 2, but I can only play it at my arcade
Do I really just keep credit feeding until eventually I get it down to 1cc?

>>11951527
>needing to explain doujinshi
Holy shit I miss when this site wasn't overrun by retarded normalfags

>>11951624
I'm not keeping the best track of things. What parts of the game did they update? Wasn't it good enough as it was?

>>11951646
Just because I don't speak wapanese weeabo faggot doesn't mean that I'm a normie.

Whatever, I googled that shit. So much for you people being helpful.

>>11951652
Die normalfag, you don't belong on this site

>>11951654
Go take that autistic screeching somewhere else. You don't need to be an insufferable retard to be on these boards.

Also, contempt is a very feminine trait. Normally I'd encourage a more healthy masculinity (lifting up those below you, being someone people look up to etc.), but you seem so far gone with your faggotry that the ugly feminine is what best suits you.

Learn to quick-tap the pedal to reload without taking cover — the timing’s a little tricky, but you’ll get it in no time. The rest is just memorizing enemy spawn times.
The PS2 version, aside from the graphics, is a solid base for training.

>>11951647
Ignore that retard.
The big changes are: smaller hitbox for the ships, no reset of the hit counter at 9,999, no reroll of the stack, caring all your Extend to loop 2. You can also choose between 1CC or 2ALL at the start.

>>11951664
Your words are as empty as your soul

>>11950378 (OP)
Wasn't there an arcade game preservation museum that closed a while back and deleted all their videos on youtube of original cabinets being played? Does anybody know what happened with that?

>>11950378 (OP)
Do any of you play on real arcade hardware?

>>11952047
I do. I barely have enough energy to play games nowadays, unfortunately.

>>11952091
>collector
many such cases

Uhh, if someone has trouble finding the latest MAME 0.279 romset it's here
https://archive.org/details/mame-roms-split
Had trouble finding this via a search engine.
>>11952027
Maybe it was youtube copyright strike related or some legal trouble? I don't know how this could be related but I guess it could happen.

Thinking of getting a supergun how are the Aliexpress CBOXES?

>2.0 Neo geo, Saturn inputs and image controls
>3.0 Neo geo, Usb inputs but no image correction
The fuck?

>>11952047
I play mostly on original hardware (thread pic is mine btw).
Got 5 cabs (2 Blast City, Aero City, Exceleena 2, Deco Cassette cocktail) and some PCBs.
Still use emus and ACA releases for training and cause I’m lazy.
Owning cabs is a pain in the ass. Half my arcade time is fixing shit instead of playing.
Last week I had to swap the entire JAMMA connector cause I’m a brute and snapped the ground pin.
>>11952027
I don’t know your case specifically but I’m curious about it, do you remember the name?

Every private initiative is doomed to fail.
Preservation costs too much money, and even storage alone will eventually hit 5 figures a year.
On top of that, ownership of donations and games has to be secured.
People are greedy, so in case of conflict it always ends up tied to a single person or company. That’s why it has to be nationally funded.

>>11952047
Yeah I have about 30 PCBs, mostly original with a few converts. Got about 10 I still want to get but they take up so much fucking space.

Thinking of getting a NEO GEO MVS any particular model to avoid etc?

>>11953571
The one that won't do what you want but you don't know what that is because you didn't do your homework. Not even trying to be obtuse. Either read up on the options and plan for what you want to do or just buy the cheapest thing you can find and then buy something else if you find out you want something else.

>>11953618
Man dead internet theory proven correct right here...

>>11952393
I don’t know about Cboxes but my recommendation is simple: the most important part of a Supergun is the PSU. Anything else is gimmicks you can DIY yourself. rules are simple
>Don’t cheap out on the PSU.
>PC PSU is shit.
>Chinese arcade PSU is shit.

You need a PSU with reliable voltage and proper adjustment for 5V.
Adjustable 3.3V is not a luxury either. (for old games and JVS)
Mean Well from Taiwan is a solid choice for new hardware (check the RT-85).
A full capkit on a SUN Naomi PSU will last you forever.

Additional note:
- Not sure if those things support JVS hardware (like a Naomi for example), that’s another story entirely.

>>11953571
Avoid MV-6F (6 slots), MV-4F (4 slots), and MV-1 — they’re old and unreliable.
If lazy: MV-1FZ, everything works out of the box, tank and reliable as fuck. the bios is on a slot and not solder on a the PCB.
If not too lazy: MV-2F (2 slots), just needs SNK input wiring for your Supergun.
If rich and got space: MV-4FS (I literally pulled one from a shitty cab and it’s been working fine for 4 years now).
You need the UniBIOS 4.

>>11953618
fuck off.

So when exactly did they start demanding 300 + bucks for Raiden 1990? This is perplexing, meanwhile other stuff basically remain 140-220 bucks the same since the 2010s.

>>11950378 (OP)
I think my US MVC might have unlifed itself after all these years. How much is it to Phoenix the board? I think I heard of newer options, are they expensive?

>>11953642
With covid ,Cuck dad collectors got bored of not seeing their wife getting fucked,
so they decided to buy arcade cabs and PCBs.
Sad part is, those PCBs will never see anything past Stage 2.

BTW If any anon needs help with arcade hardware and I can help, just ask.
>>11953669
Used an InfiniKey for 12 euros,
I had this happen with an XvS after dropping it on the floor because I am a dumb fuck.
worked like a charm. I used it in every CPS2 I have now. (but I think they go for more now)

I think you can DIY the same thing yourself now with Openkey.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/166049529275

>>11953680
>With covid ,Cuck dad collectors got bored of not seeing their wife getting fucked,
>so they decided to buy arcade cabs and PCBs.
>Sad part is, those PCBs will never see anything past Stage 2.
I just checked CPSII motherboards alone go for 200+ bucks
Jesus christ, so basically these days stick to MVS, PGM for cheaper stuff.

>>11953715

Or find a group of people you can buy and trade with (no need to hoard every game you’ll only play once).
Wholesale is also an option, but you need the cashflow for that.

Knowledge is important too: what version it is, if conversion is possible, and the differences between regions.
For example, I got a Japanese Bomb Jack PCB for 29 euros because the seller was sure it was a bootleg.
Turns out it was just a Japanese board with a German manufacturer sticker on it (used as a model before local manufacturing started).

>>11953628
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>>11952716
you're talking full cab preservation, right? GamePres in Tokyo is doing good work in a reasonably sized tokyo house.

vrooom

just pretend its a vroom

So I have a question about arcade roms, they all come with gibberish formated names and emulators don't like it when they get renamed, which is annoying. Then stuff like revisions and countries are a headache. Retroarch recognizes some of them after an auto-scan but not all, and I'd like more granular organizing like by genre or dev etc.

How do you organize this stuff?

>>11954681
It makes perfect sense when you understand why they're named that way. A lot of times PCBS will have a chip name with the ROM # they are. So mame will name them just that.

For instance, Tower of Doom's USA pcb has the program roms named DAD, the number usually corresponds to the slot on the board (Slot 1, Slot 2 etc...)

So the roms will be DAD.01, DAD.02, the sprites and other data were mask roms with M as their extension so you'll see DAD12m, or DAD13m

It's down this way for preservation because if you own this board and that particular rom went bad, you know exactly which rom it is.

>>11954720
*It's done this way for preservation because if you own this board and that particular rom went bad, you know exactly which rom and can replace it.

>>11954720
I actually love how emulation is a low priority, 2nd tier concern. Pretty fucking amazing.

>>11954734
ive saved a couple of my own pcbs thanks to mames source code, i dont really care about emu fags complaining about this shit, anyone with a brain understands why it is the way it is, the only ones complaining are under age

>>11954736
Heh, that's pretty cool. I should probably try to use this technique to restore my bootleg Puzzle Bobble MVS carts.
But I also understand anyone new to this. They probably come from an emulation world where the game files have names like
>Bonanza Bros (UE) [!]

>>11954681
Maybe start by looking at the Final Burn game collection, especially the Neo Geo roms. If you know the original game name the rom names actually makes quite a bit of sense.

How are the standalone MVS bootleg carts, are they as buggy as the piece of shit 161in1 carts?

>>11954820
My Puzzle Bobble carts (I have two) have a hard time booting, but with a bunch of jiggling around I eventually got them to start. And they seem pretty indistinguishable from the real deal. No chinese vendor snuck their stupid logo into their game.

I'm lucky enough to have an actual arcade in my town and it's great
Funny thing is though the audio isn't balanced between cabinets, so I started a game of Blazing Star and it's insane engrish and music was blaring

>>11954820
I avoid bootleg carts in general.
Most are trash gameplay-wise and some can fry your shit.
Yeah, a few decent ones exist, but that’s the rare exception, not the rule.
There are better solutions, just more expensive.
but MVS slots are cheap anyway, so who cares.
>>11954890
Did you 1CC the game?
It’s really an overcomplicated game for nothing if you’re only going for a 1CC.
Avoid all bonuses and power-ups after the initial 4 upgrades and you shouldn’t have any problem minus stage 4 last boss pattern and stage 6 draging everything until slowdown kill the game .
The rank is tied to the medals/items you pick up.

Scoring, on the other hand, is stupidly hard for such a generic game.

>>11953680
Nice! Thank you so much. I remembered reading something about that. Glad an actual solution is available now instead of a phoenix. Next up, what is a good place to find the services of someone who can repair or mod CRT monitors in the US?

>>11950408
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>>11950545
What the fuck are you talking about? FBNeo is still actively developed

>>11951664
>spoonfeeding is masculine
no, it's pathetic

I saw this posted in an earlier thread.

Can I play it?

Is there really no other machine left?

I don't mean in Europe but what about America or Japan?

One anon said 50 of them were made in the 90s. Surely at least 1 of them is in storage somewhere?

What PCBs do you guys own? I got:
>A sizeable MVS/AES collection
>Buriki One
>Mr Driller 2

Used to own:
>Marvel Super Heroes
>Vampire Savior
>MK1

Want to own:
>Gradius 2
>SF Second Impact
>Naomi 2 with netboot

>>11957092
I don’t know shit about the amerifat market.

For none arcade monitor, in general, if it’s just a generic TV, nobody cares (sad but true).
The only exception is if you have something exceptional like a Sony KX Profeel or (less exceptional) a pro monitor (HTM/BVM/PVM).

Best bet is checking the forums and you may finding a genuine nice person who can repair (really rare, but not impossible) or some cuck who will ask you to suck his dick online so he blesses you with an overpriced repair.

IMO man the fuck up and learn to repair/service your monitor yourself.
Boomers were basically monkeys and could learn to service any TV in 2 weeks of training.

Geometry and convergence is easy, capkit is long but shouldn't be hard. the rest depend on the material you have but can also be learn with time case by case.

>>11954649
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>>11954661
playing these without a wheel is painful and awkward and it shows on the webms

>>11957492
yes sadly, still fun but I can't git gud at Scud Race without wheel drifting

it's no thps but I have fond memories of that cabinet with the board

>>11951629
Anon, don't play with fire

>>11957451
>What PCBs do you guys own
Too many to list but my favourites are Battle Bakraid, DFK 1.5, Wolf Fang, Alien vs. Predator, Warriors of Fate, G-net board, Elevator Action Returns and Violent Storm

>Want to own:
Armed Police Batrider
Mushihimesama
Hyper Duel
Super Spacefortress Macross
Dodonpachi
19xx

>>11957913
What game is this? Looks like Segas Crazy Skateboard.

>>11958095
Top Skater.
One day I wish I can find and itw Yoshitsugu Sato

>>11958257
Man, this looks really cool.
https://www.retrogaminggeek.com/top-skater-history-gameplay-legacy/

>>11957957
>19xx
This used to be a pretty cheap CPSII board around 110-140 ish dollars.

>>11958357
It's still pretty cheap as far as arcade boards go. It's just extremely hard to find. Already lost 2 auctions to people who'll pay anything.

Anyone who does this should just drop dead.
>>11958390
I still cannot get over that Raiden is going for 300+ usd while bootlegs are 80-90 usd.
Freaking surreal

Ive been playing the triforce arcade games a lot lately, these games originally ran on modified GameCube hardware, so you can run them on a modded Wii or Wii u with no emulation involved

>>11957913
>flat shading
soul

>>11958402
Who the fuck need this kind of crap ?
>>11957409
The greed and lies of one Cuck dad collector nearly destroyed the last working RR full scale in england.
>>11957451
I will share some pictures.
btw I compiled an updated version of Pidimboot from scratc, Avoiding the ugly interface, compatible with most recent RPI and distrib and added part of the WiPi Netbooter to lauch game from phone too. I just need to test it more cause sometimes it crash for no reason.

>>11957957
>Macross
Is that a rare and/or expensive board now? I picked it up back in the early-ish 2010s from FujitaCommunications and I don't think it was particularly expensive then.
Wish I'd bought more stuff from her. I think I got my Circus Charlie board from her site for like $30 or somrthing.

>>11957120
The stable release is all you'll ever need. It's just like Kega, perfected and never needs an update.

>>11959628
>Kega, perfected and never needs an update
Kega literally has audio sync problems with Sega CD games

>>11959656
Don't expect brown people to understand the difference between real hardware and emulation. They've never played the real thing so every emulation inaccuracy is what they think is supposed to occur.

>>11958537
It just isn’t the same as playing in the gyro chair, bros..

>>11959656
Ah, you see Kega runs natively on windows 7. He probably upgraded his system without realizing it would cause compatibility issues.

And yes, windows 7 is all you'll ever need too.

>>11959048
>The greed and lies of one Cuck dad collector nearly destroyed the last working RR full scale in england.

Do you know if they were able to fix the machine? I'm traveling to the UK in 3 months and want to plan a visit to play the machine if possible.

>>11959697
>And yes, windows 7 is all you'll ever need too.
One of my main computers is still using Windows 7. I completely agree with you. Win 7 is so simple. I hate Win 10.

But lately i've been running into problems with software not being compatible anymore with Win 7. Specifically internet browsers. How do you handle this issue? Just use older versions of browsers until the website doesn't display properly anymore?

>>11959732
Not at the moment, unfortunately.

>>11959739
>win7 chad reporting in
Personally I like MyPal68 which is based on Firefox. But if you preferred Chrome, try Supermium which is a port of that. These have had the best balance of compatibility for me.

Finalburn Neo also works great on Windows 7. If you select DirectDraw7 as the blitter, the latency is lower than modern machines on Windows 10 and DX9. It's actually based.

>>11957409
>One anon said 50 of them were made in the 90s. Surely at least 1 of them is in storage somewhere?
I'm a very old fag. I won't say exactly where, but I was witness to 2 different Ridge Racer Full Scale being scrapped in the early 2000s. These arcades have both closed down years ago. At the time I asked the workers there why they were doing it. They said was the full scale machine wasn't earning that much money anymore after 10 years. The machine needed constant maintenence, and took up a huge amount of space in arcades. The owners wanted space for new machines. So the owners ordered the workers to scrap the Full Scale. They sold the red car to car collectors. Then literally rolled up a rental dumpster to the back entrance of the arcade just threw all the remaining pieces out. I remember seeing it happen and felt really bad. I wanted save the machine but it was so damn huge that there was no WAY I could fit it in my apartment. Back then the idea of "arcade collecting" was really a big thing. Arcades were just considered old tech that was disposable and thrown out when new arcades were released. I have no doubt this is what happened to all those ridge racer full scales. Just tossed out into the garbage. But 20 years later suddenly there is a retro revival and everyone wants to play the old arcade machines but most of them are gone now unfortunately. It might be possible to get Namco to make a new Ridge Racer Full Scale like they did for that movie that came out on Netflix.

>>11957957
Damn I'm guessing you got these before covid? Feels like arcade gaming jumped higher in price than the rest of the retro market. Most Cave or Raizing stuff is at least $1k.

>>11960397
it was going to shit around 2017. you could get batrider for $80 in 2012

>>11959125
It's about $500, not particularly difficult to find, difficult to find for a non-predatory price though. But I guess that's just the arcade market in general.

You people need to understand that these arcade machines and arcade boards are 30 to 40 years old now. The number of boards on the market will only ever decrease due to boards failing, breaking, etc. Prices will only ever go up. Not down.

The "golden age" for collecting arcade parts for super cheap was during the 2000s. Immediately after the arcade crash when everyone was throwing out their arcade equipment to play PS2 and Xbox at home. Then arcade hardware prices started to rise in the 2010s. Then spiked even harder in 2020.

The good times for collecting original hardware for cheap is long over.

>>11957451
As promised, here’s a game: Dragon Blaze. Probably Psikyo’s most beautiful and complete game.
The Production values is insane, on par with what CAVE was doing if you ask me.
The game is almost too perfect. Not my favorite Psikyo (that’s Gunbird 1 and Sengoku Blade), but still.
Not as mean and crazy as Strikers 1, Gunbird, or Sengoku Blade, but definitely one of the hardest challenges you can face in arcade.

>>11960509
There is truth to this statement, but this massive explosion in price is mostly related to these shit head grifter soi youtube channels.

>>11961446
>most wanted machine is a fucking Dynamo with Happ joystick
>if I don’t know about it, that means it’s a hidden gem

Even a monkey has better taste and knowledge than amerifats.

>>11951467
Based and Gridpilled. I would kill to own a couple of those cabinets.

>>11952047
Unfortunately not, I primarily emulate. I don't have much space to work with and I'm broke so I just have a small multicade setup with MAME. There's a small arcade not too far from where I live that I visit every once in a while. There's nothing rare but they have most of the classic vertical games as well as others ike Operation Wolf, Cruis'n World, Tekken 2, and Golden Axe. Mostly sidescroller beat-em-ups and fighting games. I shoot the shit with the owner whenever i'm there and he's super chill and clearly passionate about games but I doubt the place will stick around for long. Going to make the most of it while it's still there.

I know it's not /vr/, but you and I both know a question like this would die instantly on /v/
How the fuck do I beat the fist fight part of Deko in Sin and Punishment 2? It feels genuinely unfair and cheap, not just hard

Is Elevator Action Returns worth 1ccing?

>>11963210
easy game, good music
yes

>>11960509
What do you mean by "you people"?

>>11963208
I don't remember much of the game but minus spaming the 3 hit combo punch punch kick and avoiding his grabing attack I don't think I have done anything special.

Have a bumpo

I don't know what I'm doing

Do we talk about mame cabinets here?

mame more like meme