Thread 11954817

>capacitor that needs to be removed or it will leak and destroy the motherboard
>disc drives are notoriously dogshit and prone to breaking
>can't boot into the dashboard to launch games from the hard drive if the disc drive is broken or removed unless you have a modchip
>hard drive is tied to the motherboard so you can't just swap it out unless you have a modchip or backed up the eeprom and use chimp
>also can't play discs or boot into the dashboard if the hard drive is broken
Between the leaky capacitor, shit disc drives, and ancient IDE hard drives all taking a shit, these things are going extinct. My friend gave me 2 xbox consoles, 1 won't boot into the dashboard and cycles between different error codes for both the disc drive and hard drive, and the other is soft modded so it can play games from the hard drive but the disc drive doesn't read discs at all

>>11954817 (OP)
Didn’t speedrunners switch to running games from the HDD because of how bad the drive drives are on Xbox?

>>11954817 (OP)
If you've got two consoles then you should frankenstein the working parts from each into one fully functioning console. That's what I did.

I reflowed and recapped the disc drive in one of my XBOXes and it went from not reading discs to reading them quite quickly.

>>11955007
the soft modded xbox plays games just fine, the disc drive doesn’t read discs but it’s not “broken” enough that it actively prevents the xbox from getting to the dashboard with error code 11 like the other one.
the erroring xbox needs a new disc drive and hard drive before it can do anything. i see modchips and certain bios can skip the disc drive check altogether so ill probably get one of those and a new hard drive for it.

>>11954817 (OP)
skill issues

Luckily all those problems are fixable. Better to have peripheral devices like the DVD drive or HDD die than have chips that are dying. TSOP flashes are permanent fixes to this stuff anyway.

Clock capacitor disasters are still a mess, but fixable with some good soldering.

>>11954817 (OP)
>disc drives are notoriously dogshit and prone to breaking
Good reason why Nintendo was correct to choose carts overs discs for the N64. No moving parts > moving parts, every time.

Has Microsoft ever made durable hardware?

>>11954817 (OP)
No need for a modchip to softmod a broken Xbox, get yourself one of these adapters and an appropriate ROM reader so you can dump the HDD key even from an Xbox that has no hard drive at all.
Then you can just use FatXplorer to create a new hard drive on your PC using the HDD key you just dumped and shove that drive into the Xbox.
Just did this a few weeks back on a 1.6 version Xbox I'd had hanging around with no HDD for years. Couldn't be arsed to hardmod since being a 1.6 it'd need an LPC rebuild as well.
The only hard part of softmodding this way is knowing exactly what files you need to put on the HDD.

>>11955198
All models have caps that will go bad

>>11954817 (OP)
It's more than just the clock capacitor. The GPU/CPU caps are known to burst too on most motherboards. And the traces rot on some front control panels that makes it impossible to start the console.
>>11955198
1.6 are the most likely to have faulty power supplies.

Yeah I spent $500 CAD last year to get an Xbox that had every cap replaced and the disc drive had a lot of work done on it too. Guy has checked on me twice since then to make sure everything is still good. Anyways, I took the lazy route but the point is that all of your problems can be fixed.

>>11954817 (OP)
How many other consoles work under your retarded conditions, fuckface? Why do you expect PC capabilities from this thing and not from your shitcube?\
Of all the absurd nitpicking about this console, holy fucking shit.

>>11955369
>console will literally self-destruct unless taken apart
>"nitpicking"

>>11955528
It won't, you're talking about specific models. Most of these will be just fine.

>>11954817 (OP)
Still not as bad as the X360, which has to be the most defective console of all time.

>>11955171
The Xbox One. The downside is that it's shit hardware.

>>11955574
At least with the 360 you can just throw another hard drive in if it breaks. The original xbox practically requires some TLC

>>11955603
Can't fix RROD. That has to do with processor failure.

my xbox only reads some games
i found like 4 games it wont read
and that was money wasted

>>11954817 (OP)
as gross as a Big Mac
2000s tech slop

got lucky with a practically mint-condition 1.2, didn't even have a bad clock cap only a bad disc drive

>>11954817 (OP)
>>hard drive is tied to the motherboard so you can't just swap it out unless you have a modchip or backed up the eeprom and use chimp
You could also unplug the drive while the system is running to get it un an unlocked state. The drive isn't encrypted, it's just using a feature some IDE drives had where you could set a password in their firmware. You have to enter the password to unlock the drive, which fully unlocks the drive and leaves it that say until you lock it again.

The xbox would unlock the drive on poweron and re-lock it on shutdown or even in the event of a power loss (it had a capacitor that stored enough power to send the lock command on power loss) but there was nothing they could do if you let disconnect the drive while the system is running and thus have it unlocked.

>>11954817 (OP)
time to get a soldering iron, friend. component failures and basic soldering is slowly becoming the biggest filter for retro gaming.
>>11955348
>1.6 are the most likely to have faulty power supplies.
well, outside of the 1.0-1.1s who had the infamous housefire PSU. those have a completely different point of failure though.

>>11956017
accidently melted a hole into a chip on the drive when trying that, kept it out of curiosity about whether the drive would still work if the board was replaced

>>11956236
Yeah, it's not without it's risks, but how? Did you unplug the drive's power? You would only need to unplug the data cable.

>>11956057
I'm not taking a soldering iron to a PSU, easier to just wait for those USB C replacements to start being sold.

>>11956241
accidently touched the metal shielding in the case

>>11955198
I opened mine today and found 5 bad caps. Clock was fine though. I hope that’s the reason it won’t turn on.

>>11956017
I tried the hotswap unlock method a ton of times and couldn't got it to work. I used the Splinter Cell exploit instead.
Did you personally have success with it?

>>11955198
1.6s aren't immue to disc drive failure

>>11956578
yeah but disc drives are the easiest thing to replace. Anyone will work with another.

>>11956583
...if you can find another that still works

>>11956583
both of my disc drives refuse to read discs, but one of them prevents the console from reaching the dashboard at all and gives an error code.

it's honestly retarded the disc drive needs to be hooked up at all for the console to work.

>>11956587
The drive itself has to work but its not like the hard drive where once it's dead it's useless. You can just pull it out of a broken xbox and throw it in another.

>>11954817 (OP)
More reasons why we need autists to make Xbox emulation good
Sure you can frankenstein some shit from different consoles but it's a pain in the ass just to play some fucking video games

>>11954817 (OP)
>>11955167
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>>11956594
I've only ever had one disc drive that caused the entire console to refuse to boot, was surprised it was a samsung that was being a problem.

>>11956660
The resistor packs near the ide connector go bad also the smd electrolitic caps go bad. I have saved many Samsung drives but I also have a box full of Samsung drives with bad lasers.

>>11956676
>I also have a box full of Samsung drives with bad lasers.
Checked it against the capacitors? Lots of those disc drive boards capacitors are wearing out now.

>>11954817 (OP)
My friend gave me his old xbox. I removed the clock capacitor, softmodded it for future proofing and i was happy to buy some games for it until I saw signs the disc drive was failing. Welp, at least I'll save money on not starting another game collection then.

>>11956679
Yeah, the lasers are bad i have good boards that I swap in, I have saved a ps2 and an xbox drive by ultrasonic cleaning the lasers. Sometimes lint or dust gets in the optical path.

>>11956594
too bad it seems that nobody's bothered making an ODE

>>11956704
You probably just have to ground some pins on the ide cable to get the handshake passed the xbox during boot check, from there endgame will get you up and running

Stupid question, but mine has an Aladdin Advanced chip in it and I can’t find a simple English explanation of what it does. I’d assume it lets you load and play from the hard drive, but pretty sure it’s the original 8gb, so I don’t see the point.

>>11954845
I thought was just for BFBB. I know they allow that to be ran off HDD, I think because they thought the disc-smudging exploit to clip through floors was too degenerate.

>>11954817 (OP)
The worst part is that most people who own these know nothing about the clock capacitor issue, and how urgent it is to remove the clock capacitor to prevent it from killing the motherboard.
Anyway, try swapping the disc drive from the unmodded console into the softmodded console. Disc drives aren't tied to specific boards the way hard drives are.

>>11956941
it's on a per game basis but JSRF did it first.
i recall several years ago that BFBB didn't allow it and SHiFT said something really gay like breaking your console's warranty seal made your run invalid, funny to see the 180 since then. and by "funny" i mean "speedrunners are faggots."

I got a 1.6 and I never did anything about clock capacitor.
Taking it to electronics repair store to recap another in its place is too much work though.

all my shit still works. my ps2 my xbox my wii all of it. im starting to think im just better

>>11956912
>Aladdin Advanced chip
It lets you run a different BIOS such as one which offers tools for back up, hard drive formatting, bypassing security checks, etc.

>>11954817 (OP)
All old electronicss needs work. All of my old computers have had capacitors replaced and often voltage regulators At least you can repair these, stuff like old NESs are the real curse for owners because they are libterally rotting away even compared to other exlectronis form the 80s, cboxes are asy to repair and maintain, A lot of the issues with something actually shiity like a nes you need another nes to harvest parts from

>>11955170
>Good reason why Nintendo was correct to choose carts overs discs for the N64. No moving parts > moving parts, every time.

>>11957892
you don't need to worry about it on a 1.6 anyway, 1.6s don't have that problem

>>11956392
No, I have read of it but I just installed a modchip instead years ago.

>>11955720
all factory clock caps before 1.6 are likely go bad eventually and soon unless removed

>>11958660
i didn't leave it in, took it out upon identification as a 1.2

>>11956057
You HAVE to reflow the pins on the plug if you haven't already. I don't give the OG Xbox too hard of a time on that seeing as how I've had to reflow the power connector on both my 64 and my Saturn.

>>11955171
>Has Microsoft ever made durable hardware?
microsodt mouse
sidewinder force feedback joystick
Microsoft holoLens smartglasses
Natural keyboard range
Microsoft sidewinder game pad range
Microsoft lumia smartphones

Have you ever made a gud post?

>>11957942
That's not true it's just not guaranteed to happen.

>>11954817 (OP)
not only that but its still unemulatable and there is literally more effort put into being able to play xbox one games on pc than there is og xbox

>>11954817 (OP)
>>hard drive is tied to the motherboard so you can't just swap it out unless you have a modchip or backed up the eeprom and use chimp
Does any other console do this? Even the Xbox360 can be used if you take the Hard Drive out.

>>11959505
I dont think so, just install a modchip the xbox modding community has come a long way in the last 5 years.

>>11955369
(you) sound like a butthurt fanboy.

>>11959505
that's an external hard drive, it's intended to be removable

>>11959493
>its still unemulatable
nah man. that was true for a very long time, but xemu has become pretty good lately.

>>11954817 (OP)
This is why i heavily recommend modchipping OG Xboxes now. A custom bios gives your Xbox far more brickproofing by disabling all these shitty lockouts and lets you use your Xbox without a disc drive or even boot it without a hard drive to fix it. Plus being able to just throw any hard drive at a modchipped Xbox instead of dealing with passwords and the whole CHIMP process is honestly far more convenient in the long run.
It's like installing Gentoo on your hueg. Risky, but gives you complete control over your system.

>>11954817 (OP)
Surprisingly those shit thompson drives have been pretty reliable after a good clean. Pic rel is how filthy a laser to one of them was, still worked like a champ

HDDs are a different story, I've heard of HDDs from 2003 that still work but it is a BITCH using a raspberry pi to get the required stuff for a new drive. The best thing to do is add custom firmware and get the eeprom from a USB drive/thumb drive.

Also the 1.6 revs don't have leaky clock caps, I have seen the 5 caps near the psu plug go bad near the psu plug on some 1.6s but its really random at this point.
>>11955603
The 360 locks each disc drive behind a key unlike the OG xbox.

>>11956680
You were already saving money buying xbox games nobody gives a shit about og xbox games. I got halo 1 and doom 3 in the cool metal case for 10 bucks.

>>11960593
Where do I even find shit like that

>>11956714
meant for actually playing games, would be cool to have the disc drive technically functional instead of just sitting there or being just a cover over the hole

>>11961049
>The 360 locks each disc drive behind a key

Good to know the right to repair was a lot longer than recent stuff.

>>11957027
i never heard about this until just now, and i own 4 xbox's, one having died, the powerbutton just does literally nothing when i press it, unless i hold it in, then i can hear it doing something but still not working

>>11959493
Xemu github has been really active recently when a new guy showed up, and for some reason mburgerson is actually merging their pull requests when he usually just ignores all of them.

>>11961314
Yeah and for some reason they stuck with the tray design too instead of letting the console eat the discs like the ps3 and the wii. I don't remember a disc ever getting stuck in my wii.

>>11954817 (OP)
>>disc drives are notoriously dogshit and prone to breaking
>>can't boot into the dashboard to launch games from the hard drive if the disc drive is broken
Top kek this thing was always absolute dogshit and ruined gaming. It was great for PC ports on console though, sort of.

Just wish Fatal Frame 1 and 2 get solved on Xemu soon. Everything else I wanna play is pretty much already working other than those.

>>11961379
And had better online than the ps2. You had to make accounts on different websites for every ps2 game

>>11956324
the dreamcast has a really nice PSU replacment, i hope one like it can be made for the xbox too.

>>11954817 (OP)
Shame. Loved fhis console but will never buy one. Emulation is shit too.

>>11956324
Just don't rip out the power cord from the back. That can crack the prongs sticking out.

All that work and XBOX AINT GOT GAAAAAMES it has no games maybe except for grabbed by the ghoulies where you walk around as a little bitch with his little bitchass furniture he's picking up throwing around going HAH HAEH HAEH.

>>11961869
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Jet Set Radio Future
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Blinx 2: Masters of Time and Space
NightCaster
NightCaster II: Equinox
Conker: Live & Reloaded
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball
anyone got any other good games that arent on PC or PS2? I'm really stretching thin here

>>11961869
Based Chad. P.S. Deuce is where it's at.

>>11961896
breakdown
toe jam and earl 3
thps2x
fatal frame and genma onimusha have some enhanced stuff

>>11961372
Interesting to know. Thanks.

>>11960593
yikes

>>11961520
>Emulation is shit too.
Get a Xbox 360. Most major games can be played there. And it runs on an emulator made by Microsoft.

>>11956632
Like the emulator Microsoft created for the X360 years ago?

Xbox community is very stupid.

>>11961935
you have clearly never played any xbox games on the 360 because the emulation outside of halo 1 and 2 is complete and utter dogshit. it'll have 30fps games running at 5fps and totally fucked graphics and random crashes and stuff. maybe it works okay on a few other of the most popular games but i played baldur's gate, blinx and a few others on there once and it was literally unplayable.

>>11961935
>Like the emulator Microsoft created for the X360 years ago?
https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox_360:Original_Xbox_Games_Compatibility_List
Seeing how hit or miss it is, and how you need to downgrade it to play a chunk of games, seems to me Xemu is probably better overal.

I keep real hardware on hand in case i need it, but will always try to emulate first.
Unless its xbox360, Xenia sucks massive balls and upscaling games on it just breaks them even more and desu upscaling 720p games isnt that necessary anyway, so 360 games i just go straight to hardware

>>11961961
idk how that desu ended up in that sentence lol, weirdest typo i ever made

>>11961935
>Like the emulator Microsoft created for the X360 years ago?
Wow Anon that's amazing! An emulator of hardware that's starting to die that only runs on hardware that will eventually die. Genius!

>>11954817 (OP)
lmfao that is so microsoft.

>>11961896
Only ballin game on there is dead or alive and you cant even see that bitches pussy. Blinx? Jetset? Cmon now those games are mad gay.