Thread 11957904

Ok, I spoke too soon. This is better than Super Castlevania IV and definitely the best classicvania.

elaborate

Now you see the light

>another console war castlevania thread

holy fuck, theres 3 of these a week
like, dont all of you people legitmately run out of discussion points?

It's one of my favourites after 3 and XX, but its designed is definitely not as tight and well thought of and executed as the others. It's still a joy to play through for some reasons though.

>>11957961
At least it's not a zooming "classic game is JANK" thread

>>11957961
But [my favorite entry in the series] has like.. the tightest design

>>11957971
>>11957970
>but its designed is definitely not as tight
Lol

>>11957904 (OP)
Based, it shits on Rondo

Rondo of blood is better

More like Castlevania Straight Lines. Incredibly flat level design, overall the game feels extremely phoned in. Multiple auto scrollers and impressively poorly designed bosses. The game isn't even fucking close to Rondo of Blood.

>>11958104
Rondo of Blood is just a playable anime that lacks the actual kick of a proper CV game.

>>11957904 (OP)
Wait until you play Rondo of Blood, now that's a good CV game.

>>11958108
Rondo of Blood fucking sucks ass. Lazy, nonsensical, untested level design, alternative paths that are just straight filler trash, none of the mobility options of SCIV or Bloodlines, and everything from level designs to bosses to music is just recycled content from old games. Also the cutscenes are laughably bad outside of the intro one.

I like Rondo the most but all 16-bit Castlevanias are good

>>11958126
>none of the mobility options of SCIV or Bloodlines
The backflip is way cooler than the whip swing or high jump gimmicks.
>and everything from level designs to bosses to music is just recycled content from old games
Just a blatant lie.

>>11958108
>Straight Lines.
>Incredibly flat level design,
Saying this while praising Rondo, holee sheet.

>>11958108
>More like Castlevania Straight Lines. Incredibly flat level design
what the fuck are you talking about? It's flat just because it doesn't have the lazily copy-pasted tower climbing segments from every other castlevania game? It has a ton of verticality in every level.

>>11958126
I could never get over how ugly this is (and yes, it looks just as shit on a CRT).

The laziness and lack of quality smacks you in the face from the beginning of the game, and then the level design just constantly has you scratching your head constantly wondering
>why?
>who tested this?
>what is the point of this?
>who thought this would actually benefited the level?

>>11958146
Everything in Straight Lines is copy and pasted lol. The game is so rushed and low effort the shit in it doesn't even make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uf5lN435hw&t=1632s
Look at these gears floating in this zero detail outdoor area, that then leads into an indoor section without even a door transition. It feels like a bootleg.

>>11958151
Rondo is the Sonic CD of Castlevania games. Game praised mostly by people who never played it because they listened to the soundtrack on youtube and decided such a killer OST had to belong to a great game, but it's actually kind of mid.

>>11958151
>The laziness and lack of quality smacks you in the face from the beginning of the game
Genuinely one of the dumbest takes on this board, and that's saying something. There's a reason the enemy designs and bosses from IV and Rondo kept showing up in later games and not the slop from Bloodlines.

>>11958154
looks a lot better than the garish visuals and nonsensical designs of Rondo

>>11958154
There's more verticality in a couple of Bloodlines levels than in the entirety of Rondo

>>11958108
there's multiple vertical sections across the game. just say you didn't play it and move on

>>11957904 (OP)
It's a great game but the level design feels a little gimmicky. I'd take IV, X68000, Rondo, and ReBirth over Bloodlines. They're all great games though.

>>11958164
You objectively have bad taste in art. Again Straight Lines looks like a bootleg.
>>11958167
>>11958169
The autoscrollers don't count.

>>11958140
>The backflip is way cooler than the whip swing or high jump gimmicks.
It doesn't make any sense for a human to pull though. Shit is just anime rule of cool.
>>11958161
>There's a reason the enemy designs and bosses from IV and Rondo kept showing up in later games and not the slop from Bloodlines.
Yeah because KCE Tokyo also did Rondo and they are hacks that kept recycling their assets. Notice how CotM does not use them.

You guys are falling for a falseflagger Nintendo shitposter. No one can accuse Bloodlines' level design of being "straight lines" while also prasing Rondo's, shit's just gave the game away entirely. He's obviously a Nintenfag trying to pit Bloodlines fans vs Rondo fans. He really sounds like he played neither. We have a fucking troll problem on /vr/ that needs dealing with.

>>11958154
>it's totally unacceptable to have gears outside
>but a giant bridge that collapses as you walk over it followed by a big castle with green bricks and gears randomly strew about and then another section of the castle has orange bricks totally makes sense

>>11958183
>It doesn't make any sense for a human to pull though.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>Notice how CotM does not use them
Also notice how it looks way worse than every other game.
>>11958192
Platformers obviously have a level of abstraction required, but floating 2 frame animation gears outdoors with no parallax scrolling is ROMhack/bootleg tier.

>>11958183
>Shit is just anime rule of cool.
That's pretty much the entirety of Rondo's design aesthetic.

>>11958190
Meds. And then show me where the Nintendo touched you as a child

>>11958207
>gets all defensive about Nintendo all of a sudden
I accept your concession

>>11957904 (OP)
Not much love for Castlevania Chronicles these days. I won't say it's my favorite classicvania, but it's really good and people should try it if they haven't.

>>11958204
>Also notice how it looks way worse than every other game.
It unironically looks better than Aria lol, HoD has better graphics but looks ugly and at the cost of the music sounding like crap. Aria has by far the blandest looking castle of the three GBA games.

>>11958224
Didn’t I say take your meds first boi!

>>11958228
>make CV1
>remake CV1 in SCIV
>remake CV1 in Akumajou Dracula
>remake the remake of CV1 again in Castlevania Chronicles
>already recycling all the enemies, bosses, weapons, soundtrack, and level design from CV1 into every other Castlevania game
what did they mean by this?

>>11958243
Technically, Chronicles is a remake of a remake.

>>11958190
>thread that has nothing to do with nintendo
>nintendo brought up

>We have a fucking troll problem on /vr/ that needs dealing with.
i agree, starting with people like you.

>>11958243
>remake CV1 in SCIV
SCIV isn't a remake in any meaningful sense. X68k isn't either, really, given how much of the game is either different or entirely new.

>>11958252
>>thread that has nothing to do with nintendo
OP brought up a game for the Super Nintendo. Rondo is the one brought up unnaturally. Don't blush anon, I know it's embarrassing to get found out.

Here's my ranking so far:

1. Bloodlines
2. Super Castlevania IV
3. Rondo of Blood
4. Castlevania 1
5. Castlevania 3 (JP version)

Am I going to like SotN and the GBA games?

>>11958258
>OP brought up a game for the Super Nintendo.
And naturally that caused you to have an autistic meltdown.

The Anti-Bloodlines poster is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a Rondofag, snoy, troll, shitposter, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Nintenfag and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out."

>>11958259
SotN is awesome. I recommend starting with the thief mode actually, since you got few castlevanias under your belt already

>>11958278
Yeah, you might get an extra minute or two of actually being challenged before the power-creep sets in and you're destroying everything on sight.

>>11958108
literally true though, seriously don't get the praise for bloodlines other than having amazing music and a cool synopsis that doesn't really go anyway later despite having a direct sequel. well admittedly all of the new things it does are pretty good too (apart from maybe replacing the cross with the boomerang, feels weirder to use imo but maybe i'm just not as used to it), particularly john's whip swinging off the ceiling mechanic even if it's rarely actually that useful (why does his son not have that ability? would've been so perfect in por) which is more than i can say for something like legends which also does a bunch of new shit but all of it is lame.
>>11958146
>It's flat just because it doesn't have the lazily copy-pasted tower climbing segments from every other castlevania game?
so i assume you stopped playing after level 2? you have to do that in level 3 and it's the most boring shit imaginable, far worse than those because at least there you have to pay attention.

>>11958320
>synopsis that doesn't really go anyway later
As soon as they decided Morris wasn't a Belmont this was inevitable. Not that the story in Castlevania matters.

>>11958320
retards make posts like this and then be like
>oh my favorite castlevania? why, castlevania III of course XD

>>11958326
i don't even really mean his thing with the belmonts, that's just an excuse to have a different more modern whip protagonist anyway. moreso about how the game takes place during ww1 and yet if it weren't for stage 4 (which also has the clock tower role so even there) you could easily miss it. they could've done a lot more of interesting things with that in the gameplay. although granted tbf you could say the same thing for aria and dawn what with them taking place in the future. also elizabeth never making another appearance despite being dracula's niece, could've had some kino interactions with alucard in sotn. maybe scrap shaft because his ghost was already killed and make her the main villain there instead.
>>11958328
just because alucard 7's creation was a mortal sin doesn't mean the rest of the game bad.

>>11958348
oh and portrait for that matter, even if anything ww1 is more relevant in that game. ww2 just explains how dracula's castle is back. so admittedly not taking advantage of technology in the gameplay isn't exclusive to bloodlines. ironically ecclesia takes place in the 1800s from what i hear and that game has robot enemies, they're kinda all over the place.

>>11957904 (OP)
seeing more and more people denouncing Sloppy Cuckoldvania 4 and recognizinh Bloodlines as the superior game makes me happy

>>11958326
The Morris name was only because someone decided they wanted to include the original Dracula novel in CV canon, and it didn't go any farther than that. I was pleasantly surprised that Vampire Survivors included Quincy from the novel, though.

>>11958259
>Am I going to like SotN and the GBA games?
i don't know, do you like seeing a game series you like get butchered and casualized?

>>11957970
Is this Castlevania or Umihara Kawase 0?

>>11958507
It's a Bionicvania, just like SMS/GG Batman Returns

>>11958507
castlevania has always had big machine levels

>>11958562
You can reach this secret with Morris as well even though you're not supposed to, but only with the middle whip upgrade. The final whip upgrade actually has slightly smaller hit detection by 1 or 2 pixels which preven it

I've only played Bloodstained RotN, where do I start with Castlevania?

>>11958572
you said that last time i posted it too. cool it with the autism

>>11958693
Every post is a repost

>>11957904 (OP)
Trve

>>11958590
>where do I start with Castlevania?
I don't know, maybe with the game called 'Castlevania'?

>>11957904 (OP)
No Belmonts, no hearts, no flea man/dragon head things/merpeople, modern setting, and not only is it not set in the castle it isn't even set in fucking Transylvania. They should've titled it Castlevania Gaiden. It's the Castlevania of choice for reluctant Castlevania fans.

>>11957961
My theory is that the mods have a set of standard threads for each board that they know will generate responses and they just repost them over and over again to drive user engagement.

>>11960123
Interesting theory, that fails to account that mods have left this place

>>11960124
lol the mod here is extremely active, but extremely selective about what they care about. a lot of crap is left unchecked but go make some wanton mario hate threads, racist/transphobic comments, or talk about politics, etc etc and you'll see how swiftly it gets dealt with

>>11957961
castlevania is one of those series where everyone is obsessed with just having ONE GAME to enjoy and hating the others, idk what causes this kind of autism but it's a thing, people act the same way with metallica albums on the music board....ONLY ONE IS GOOD, AND MUST BE ETERNALLY DEBATED

>>11960219
>ONE GAME to enjoy
It's not just Castlevania you see this behavior. Resident evil threads are like that too. You have all of these fun games to enjoy but you choose to only like one and hate on the others. I just don't get it

>>11960219
>>11960392
It's internet brainrot. NPCs in general got more "aggressive" since social media was introduced.

>>11957904 (OP)
I tried to do a 25% health normal run + 50% health hard runs. Things gets really dicey at Versailles.

>>11957961
>>11960123
>>11960124
>>11960392
>>11960504
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO S-STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON THE VIDEO GAMES BOARD!!!!!!!
look i can understand the low effort baitposts, but OP simply wants to talk about a retro game and you guys are kvetching over this? you stupid autistic faggots realize not everyone had the same exact childhood as you and may not have played the game until more recently and maybe want to talk about it now that they beat it?

some of you need to be severely flogged for what you cry about on here.

>>11960860
3 of the 5 posts you quoted have nothing to do with what you're complaining about. Impressive.

>>11958234
To be fair the aluraune from aos is probably the worst sprite in the game.

>>11958326
>>11958348
>>11958370
I guess they wanted to bring the novel into the backstory of the series and have Quincy be related to the Belmonts, in turn leading to the "Morrises take over from the Belmonts" idea.
Bloodlines had a surprising amount of story bits written for it. Like direct implication of the Lecardes being related to Dracula, an explanation for the Alucard Spear, and a family tree with a shitload of new Belmonts and branching families.

>>11958267
Extreme kek

>>11957904 (OP)
It's a good game and I own two copies of it, but its not better than SCIV.

>>11958259
>Am I going to like SotN and the GBA games?
Yes. Also Castlevania 2 is fun if you know its quirks.

>>11957904 (OP)
>This is better than Super Castlevania IV
True
>and definitely the best classicvania.
False

Bloodlines, Portrait of Ruin, Circle of the Moon.

Yeah I'm based.

>>11958183
>It doesn't make any sense for a human to pull though. Shit is just anime rule of cool
It gives the game the best combat system because it allows you to dance (or rondo) with the enemies, you jump in and jump out of the fight and this is why its the most fun cv, none of the others have fun inputs like this normal do their combat encounters encourage the level of positioning and crowd controlling rondo does

Was the "hold down when attacking for extra damage" thing a bug? I was never too sure.

It's my favorite Castlevania too, because it's well made and has the coolest character with the halberd guy. The level design is a bit boring in the later stages tho. The Germany stage kinda sucks.

>>11964169
With the lance/halberd guy you can open up the weapon when holding down, so the blades come out. It's a cool mechanic. Much cooler than the whip spaghetti mechanic in CV IV

>>11964208
>Much cooler than the whip spaghetti mechanic in CV IV
It's okay, but it's not cooler. They're both unique.

>>11964208
> whip spaghetti

Limp dick Simon can't get it hard

>>11960219
>racist comments
From what I've seen the only racist comments that get modded are those against South East Asians. Everyone else is fair game.
Also Americans can talk shit about any country they want, but if anyone responds with a negative comment about America the mods step in.

>>11965279
>but if anyone responds with a negative comment about America the mods step in.
I have never once seen this. However I wish it were true.

>>11965321
It literally just happened to me.

>>11957904 (OP)
Super Castlevania IV is smooth, runs and sounds nice. More calming.

Bloodlines may be more traditional. JS.

>>11965669
Jumping onto stairs, diagonal attacks, and no super stiff jump is enough to completely improve the feel of the game to me.

Now why Morris can only diagonally attack while jumping, while Lecarde can only diagonally attack while not jumping, I will never understand. SCIV started this annoying trend where they took all these half-steps in future gemes, arbitrarily including only specific attack angles at seemingly random. It makes jumping between titles frustrating.

>>11965340
Probably because they're damage controlling realizing all the ESLs cause the problems here and left unchecked for too long, if so good

>>11965340
Check your victim complex man. I've seen poltards complaining about "jews" and "niggers" Get their posts deleted. Half of them don't even dare say "nigger" anymore because they know it will be deleted.

>>11965340
This is /vr/ and your retarded post is still up. Keep crying you lying piece of shit.

>>11957904 (OP)
>Contrarian Low Effort Bot Bait

The Theory is real

>>11965340
FunFact: talking shit about the current government of the UK or many other countries in europe will get your comments removed. Threads deleted. And outright bans on /V/ of all places right fucking now.
Not this made up bullshit about people being banned for saying shit about the US like your lying ass just made up.
No, the fucking mods are censoring people critical of the UK and most of europe's current politics that outright deal with current issues related to video games and technology.

AND YOUR GARBAGE IMAGE IS STILL UP YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT

I wonder why these Ameritroons are so overemotional

>>11967705
The UK is an embarrassment.

>>11967783
I'm not from the UK. Their faggotry is almost as bad as America

>>11968132
The only reason that gay shit happened is because of biden's administration being in power. Now that they're gone none of that shit is happening now.

>>11965340
You image is still up and yet everything that was posted about the UK has just been banned and removed by the mods.
You lying piece of shit.

>>11969926
2 posts were deleted, 1 about the UK and 1 about America. Both were off-topic posts about homosexuality you fat lying faggot.

>>11969926
3 posts were deleted, 1 about the UK and 2 about America. All were off-topic and related to homosexuality. You fat lying faggot.

>>11970710
The only lie was this
>if anyone responds with a negative comment about America the mods step in.
A lying piece of shit wrote that.
Funny how all your homosexual anti-America posts in this thread are still up. Yet my post that had a UK Police car with it's rainbow vinyl coat of prideshit got taken down.
It's almost like you're a soulless lying piece of garbage.

>>11971320
You're as retarded as you are fat and gay. 2 anti American posts were deleted, 1 anti UK post was deleted.