Thread 11960938

How does it fail to connect with you? I'm genuinely curious about this.

>>11960938 (OP)
I only like driving and FPS games with friends, never solo. Burnout games were fun.

I can't get used to the car handling, it feels so insanely frustrating to play. The only exception is Burnout, I don't know why but it just feels perfect

racing games have become harder to enjoy as ive gotten older. i dont feel like ive connected with a piece of art after playing them (though certain games are an exception to this), i feel like ive wasted my time rotting my brain out doing muscle memory movements on the same tracks over and over again. the customization is fun at least.

>>11960938 (OP)
I don't get the appeal. It's a competition but you don't have any meaningful interaction with your opponents outside of something like using items in Mario Kart and the occasional collision. In fact, in most games the AI is fake, trying to give you the illusion you're racing against other people when in fact the AI is just gonna teleport to wherever they want. So you don't get much out of having other cars in the track and might as well do a time trial, but then like the other anon said I also don't care much about car handling and would rather speedrun a non-racing game if I wanted to do something like that.

Too much like reality I guess. Cars are boring and people who love them generally have bad taste in machines. The computer is the crown jewel of human engineering, but you're supposed to consider cars and guns to be the most interesting machines by far, for some reason.

It's like fake cheese for vegans that tries too hard to disguise itself as real cheese. Why wouldn't I choose something that isn't ashamed to be made of plants? So, F-Zero X instead of Gran Turismo or whatever. I'm sure I could get into a reality-themed racing game if it's good, but I don't generally even bother trying because the concept turns me off. It's the same with sports games - if there aren't unrealistic superpowers, then why bother? If I want to play tennis or whatever then I could just use my actual body.

I get the same feeling of distasteful, unnecessary disguise from shumps actually, when they take that weird pose of replacing all the spaceships/airplanes with weirdly young-looking samefaced anime girls. Why am I supposed to get excited about being surrounded by images of nearly identical little girls, or images of nearly identical cars? Driving a realistically themed racing game feels to me like looking at porn that caters to a kink that I do not share or understand.

>>11960938 (OP)
I want to run people over not drive in a circle.

>>11960938 (OP)
like the other anon said, it's basically just a speedrun, memorizing tracks and inputs. I kinda like games where you can kit out your vehicle with upgrades and do other stuff besides racing like ChoroQ, but even then the novelty wears off quick.

"Realistic" racing games are snoozefests and will never beat good ol' wacky racing.

>>11960976
That's why Burnout Paradise is the best racing game. You don't spend your time micro focusing on a single track, you spend your time just getting better at reading the flow of the road.

I’m no good at ‘em.

>>11960938 (OP)
I drive a car irl

>>11961298
So do I, and I love racing games. What kind of reason is this shit?

Real life driving isn't as fantastical as Outrun or synthwave imagery makes it to be.

Also, 3D realistic racing games life Need For Speed don't really interest me.

>>11961072
Basement dwelling incel detected. If you came out of your computer you'd understand. Men (REAL men) have an innate desire to control PHYSICS. Cars and guns are physics incarnate. Friction, movement vectors, drag, bullet drop. It rewards skill, prediction, knowledge.

>>11960938 (OP)
I like them a little but when you get to the point where extremely spergy driving stuff like the slope and curve of the road surface starts being important there's just not enough feel and feedback in videogames to want to keep learning

>>11961307
If I were going to do VR shit I think most of it would be stuff like driving classic cars on other planets in the solar system with the windows rolled down while I drink IRL rather than racing

Shooters and racing games is all I need. Fuck RPGs and platformers.

>>11961072
>Cars are boring and people who love them generally have bad taste in machines. The computer is the crown jewel of human engineering, but you're supposed to consider cars and guns to be the most interesting machines by far, for some reason.
Bitch.

>>11961503
JESUS ON THE DASHBOARD

>>11960985
>would rather speedrun a non-racing game if I wanted to do something like that.
why?

I agree with other posters, as per the realistic ones I'd rather go for a drive IRL or bomb hills on my longboard for an adrenaline rush. Video games can't compete with real life action and if you are worried about the risk you don't deserve the excitement.
The cartoony ones can be fun with friends I guess. I'm more of a DB:Tenkaichi, Smash Bros, Soul Calibur, AoE II type of guy myself. This comes down to the core mechanics, racing games are about as repetitive as the worst JRPGs without any novel graphics, slight variations in challenge, or quirky dialogue as a diversion for my brain.
Free roam driving games can be cool though, depending on your goals. I haven't played a good one in a long time although I feel my brain has calcified since my teenage years and now I seriously prefer Action Adventure, aRPGs and Platformers. RTS, RPG, Turn Based RPGs, Brawlers, are all slightly sub optimal in my mind. I like a world to explore without a ton of bloat.
Shooters need a great world or story or else I drop them, I played a bit of Halo CE because of the recent re-hype of them and my brain was definitely noticeably stimulated after the first level of hard mode but I just didn't care about what was happening in the game

actual subhuman: i like burnout because crashes
low IQ: i like racing games cause cars are cool
midwit: i hate racing games because they're either too realistic or not realistic enough and i am very smart and cannot imagine spending my time sub optimally
high iq: i like racing games because all video games are already inherently an abstraction of reality, and can accept and enjoy that without splitting hairs
ascendant: i like burnout because fast

>>11961696
Go outside bro

>>11961719
>ascendant: i like burnout because fast

Nobody says this. That's like saying you like GTA because you can obey auto-traffic laws to the letter or commit low level offenses like jaywalking.

>>11961719
>people who respond to a topic directly asking about their specific opinions
>butthurt anon makes an desperate "I am very smart" cope

>>11960938 (OP)
if a game has no story then it's just a waste of time, like pushing random buttons on a calculator
better to watch a movie or read a book

>>11960938 (OP)
Games without combat are boring. I can drive in real life. I can't kill people in real life.

I don't give a shit about being faster than someone in a game. I care about killing them. Anything short of that is boring and unfun.

Same reason why sports games don't
connect with me.

>>11961072
Jesus Christ dude you need to get some fresh air and stop huffing your own farts.

"I can X IRL" is always the real sign of an idiot.

>>11961753
Burning Laps and time trials are more fun than every key-jingling crash event combined.

>>11961764
I don't play Leisure Suite Larry because I can fuck IRL

rec some racing games? I've only played the cartoony ones, mario kart, ctr

>>11961773
Racing Lagoon

>>11961764
Killing people will always be more fun than driving some dumb car, friendo

>>11961769
I'll never play Grim Fandango because why bother when I could just eat some bad gazpacho and die for real?

>normal cars = zzz
>wipeout = FUCK YEAH

>>11961324
I fucking love Outrun, it's one of my winding down to sleep games. But I don't see it the same as a racing game like Daytona or Ridge Racer, or even Pole Position. Outrun feels more like a cruising game. You're just out for a nice drive on a lovely day listening to sweet tunes.

>>11961803
Technically Outrun is a rally game

Those anti-realism anons are right
I don't play racing games much nowadays, but my favorites where usually for these reasons:
- combat mixed with racing: Rock n Roll Racing, Biker Mice from Mars, Super Mario Kart, Crash Team Racing etc
- good looking levels: Need for Speed 3 is the only one that comes to mind right now
- fun gameplay: I LOVED a playing this PS1 rally game but I can't find it anymore. It just felt so fun to drive but the game was very "arcadey" as they say and I don't think being more realistic would be better
- multiplayer: the meme of "any game is fun with friends" is right, and most racing games have multiplayer

>>11960938 (OP)
>game about cars
>not into cars
???

Boring unimaginative games for the most part. Like sports games, they don't have much in terms of substance. It's just cheap thrills for normies.

I like them but I really don't need more than one or two per console. Like it blows my mind that there are like 100 racing games on every console, in what universe is that necessary
>>11960946
Most racing games suck without a racing wheel, this is partly why Mario Kart is so good/popular, it actually works on a controller and isn't overly twitchy.

>>11961993
lmao

>>11961805
That would make sense, but I like it more than even other rally games like Sega Rally and it feels distinct.

>>11960938 (OP)
I like racing games, but I feel like it's one genre that didn't come into its own until 3D was a thing. Anything before that just doesn't control that well.
Also more recent games are just better than older ones, for the same reason. Forza Horizon 4 is the most fun I've had in a racing game.

>>11961993
I played arcade games that had wheels and it was so much worse

I find them to be the most replaceable games. Car drives forward quickly. There are a thousand games like that, and they're good, but they're completely interchangeable to me.

>>11961072
Also, yes. There's a lot to be said about car-bores and how weird and not cool these people are to me.
They fixate on the idea of owning an expensive car as some kind of symbol of masculinity, when they would be better off lifting weights, or learning any skill.
No one thinks an overweight middle aged bald guy is hot stuff just because he drives a Jaguar.

call me a schizo but this thread feels like one guy set up his own tee-ball to reply to himself about his personal philosophy (featuring 'touhou looks like kids grr')

>>11962206
That's like 98% of the threads that get made here.

>>11962206
No, a lot of us have the same experience of interacting with people who are really into cars, and just not getting it.
It's like seeing someone get really enthusiastic about about printers.

>>11962229
I love when complete autists are both unable to grasp other people having different interests and thoughts, and so autistic that they don't even realize it.

>>11962229
the main problem is they never have any other interest. it leads to boring cookie cutter people with 0 personality, who expect you to be like them

Probably the lowest self awareness thread I've seen on /vr/ and that's saying something.

>>11962178
You type like a gay woman, or a man pretending to be a woman. No one else looks at an old guy in a roadster and thinks, "He must be expressing some kind of masculinity, his very presence makes a sociological statement, he should go home and lift" instead of "oh, I bet he likes cars."
> when they would be better off lifting weights, or learning any skill.
why even play vidya, right?

>>11962234
It's incredibly common for men.

>>11962251
Because video games have stories, and pose engaging mechanical challenges.

>>11960938 (OP)
Love them both wheeled and zero g, have wheels and decent full library, also have non retro force feedback wheels and systems, wipeout wipeout 2097, wipeout fusion, rage racer, porche challenge, colin mccrae, dirt, vrally,foormula 1s, needs for speeds, stuntman, grand tourismos, powerdrome, zero G, G surfers, XG3: Extreme G Racing,burnout, midtown madness right the way back to pole position 1 and 2, outrun, night driver, even have the cracy frog racers, motogp etc

But I love old games, the above on PS1/PS2, spectrum, amiga, dos, windows and under arcade cabinet emulatuon on an xbox 360

I love pretty much every system and genre aside form nintendo stuff , which I destroy immediately onsight when I find it in estate lots.

>>11961620
because:
>but then like the other anon said I also don't care much about car handling
If I'm gonna keep doing the same level over and over again trying to get a faster time, I'd rather do that in a platformer for example

>not really interested in driving irl
>love racing games
it's a weird feeling

>>11960946
I knew it, burnout babies are all casuals

>>11961072
cars aren't that interesting (motorcycles are though), but they're certainly better than computers. the best machines are all heavily mechanical, particularly in the first half of the 20th century but special mention to spacecrafts because space is cool.

Like others have said burnout is fun. Playing with friends is ass because you spend so much time in this weird liminal state of noninteractivity. Even kart games are ass for it, items arent fun interaction. Its just another form of boring rng like mario party style multiplayer. Theres a novelty and nostalgia to the retro racers but thats all it is

But the biggest reason is that even with a full sim rig it doesnt feel like driving and never truly will no matter how much cope the losers have because of sunk cost. My manual car is an economy car and driving to the store for doritos as casually as possible is still infinitely more engaging and fun than any sim rig will ever feel.

>>11961257

Burnout Paradise isnt even the best Burnout game

I don't like arcadey racing games like Outrun and Burnout because car handling and physics don't feel fun or challenging for me. It's just not fun to drive in these games and the crashes feel like artifical "fun" additive to compensate for subpar driving. Daytona, Sega Rally, NFS3, Gran Turismo 1 these take actual skill to drive well and are the most fun for me.

Racing games are genuinely some of the hardest games there are with the highests skill ceiling because a good racing game demands greatness at all times with zero resting time and a single tiny mistake can mean losing.
You think you're hot shit becausea you beat Ghost'n' Goblins or Castlevania or Ninja Gaiden on NES? Now try to 1CC Rad Racer and Micro Machines, and you'll know you're not.

So as usual I think people just get filtered. There is also the modern retard discourse that consists in saying "2D racers are pointless now" which, considering how nothing alike 2D and 3D racers are, is even more stupid than saying something like "3D platformers make 2D ones obsolete"; or the assumption that "realism" is all there is to racing games so "newer = better"; all comments you can safely ignore because they're from people who don't actually play video games.

>>11961782
>stop having fun in ways I don't approve of
inability to recognise others aren't identical to you is a sign of austim, buckaroo

>>11962462
Exact opposite for me, I don't see the point in speedrunning anything other than racing games since they were specifically designed for it
>short tracks you can really focus on
>clear goals for completion with no side challenges
>designed to always keep you moving
>inbuilt timers
>designed for a sense of speed that only gets more intense the better you are instead of being designed for methodical gameplay that has speedrunning tacked onto it
>clear skill requirements instead of needing obscure unintended techs

>>11962985
Good point, it's also a genre that mostly doesn't allow cheesing, you're either good enough or you're not, and no technique is going to let you through if you're not, unlike most "difficult" games people like to fellate

>>11962178
>I find them to be the most replaceable games. Car drives forward quickly. There are a thousand games like that, and they're good, but they're completely interchangeable to me.

As opposed to
>scrimblo jumps on platforms
>knight swings sword at monsters
>army man shoots dudes
>etc
games?

Frankly I think the "I can do it in real life" crowd are either hypocritical or cowards. You can jump on things in real life, you can kill in real life and you can even run over people in your car in real life. Getting caught for those last 2 is just your fail state.

I guess doing it would make those games realistic and thus boring though.

>>11963067
This

I didn't really like driving games
Ridge racer r4 was peak for me when i played it and it's changed my mind about racing games but nothing hits like R4 did
then again I also stick to pre 1998 consoles

>>11963109
R4 has some of the most boring, sleep inducing driving physics ever

>>11963067
You know what I can't do? Release my spirit from my mortal coil and hover over a sportsball field whilst possessing multiple players and controlling them at will. FPS (First Person Sportsball) games barely exist, because you actually can play sports in 1st person.

Realistic racing games exist because you can't just go and race anywhere you want in any car you want. If you find it boring, that's one thing, but it's not exactly equivalent to some commute to your local shartmarché in your poormobile. You can use that same reasoning to say you can slay a dragon by using a kitchen knife on your freshly bought bearded dragon.

>>11961072
what a faggot

>>11963121
>>11963067
Im sorry that youre too young to drive and live in a country that doesn't have manual transmissions everywhere. I'm sorry that you live in a place that is just grids and empty straight lines between each of the 100 churches in your town. I'm sorry that you wont ever experience the joy of truly driving and think your silly little clutch pedal toy is like real life

>>11963021
This is the best way to play old racers which is at odds with how kids want to do it. But having a timer and optimizing and iterating on your route over and over especially in top down games is a lovely experience for the people who enjoy that sort of thing

>>11962178
Women absolutely think a normal build 35 yr old with a decent head of hair looks hot because he drives a Jag or an Audi. I've had women tell me that almost verbatim. Not referring to me, about other people. I'm not 35 and certainly don't have a Jag to be clear

>>11963179
You sound like someone who got their license in their late 20s due to autism. Would also explain why you can't understand what was written. Maybe try /o/, they can use a laugh.

>>11963207
Women where I live will see a lifted truck and want to get into it no matter what. I know a guy who constantly gets dates and them complains he cant find a good girl because they only want to drive around in his very ostentatious lifted huge tires pickup. And he is a chubby short little dude with no charisma.

And believe me, those girls throwing themselves at him aren't showing any interest in sitting in a basement and playing on a wheel for a reason. But the losers in here coping that driving a real vehicle is anything like playing on their little toys in their basements can keep seething. While I redline my shitbox in 2nd gear and make panties wet. And that sounds like trolling but people are stupid irl and it works for a reason

>>11963217
Definitely autistic, don't know if he has his license though.

Simply refer to this post >>11961307 of a world champion back from his job of racing to sit down and do some simracing. Could also be taken before he had to race, he simraces then too.

>>11960938 (OP)
I hate cheating AI. Racing games are saturated with it. Then you get bullshit like the rev limiter in Gran Turismo where you need to fiddle with settings that come with zero explanation or intuition to stop your car from dropping 20kmph at top speed because "Fuck you that's why".

>>11963230
>Not VR related
Fuck off back to V with this bullshit about modern simulators and go to your ABA appointment, no one gives a fuck Im trying to play outrun and kart games here

>>11963240
90% of your posts aren't /vr/ related, spergberg. You definitely aren't trying to play or discuss those games either, you're just upset people can see through your shit so you are fishing for post deletions.

>>11963240
Then talk about them? Currently you are all 3 of these guys. I'll give you an opener.

What are your thoughts on TX-1? Probably better to play on an actual arcade machine considering the hassle with wheels on MEME and being a multi-screen game, but you can make a pad work. I felt it played pretty well if you got the sensitivity right. Might be too old for you though, but it sits neatly between Pole Position and Outrun in design.

(You) will never drive a fun car. Your generation will continue to be given handmedowns and fascimilies that are empty. By the time you're old enough to drive they'll have mandated AI cars. You rage against your reality that (you) will never have what older gens had and it will only get worse for you. Your vapid empty simulation setup will be devoid of passion but it will be all you get. We went to arcades after school and put our highscores on the table and competed with eachother. We got highrevving cars without power steering and driving aids and ripped around underage in fields and sat under the stars without any devices. (You) desperately cling to anger while the anons you're arguing with understand that racing games were never about driving. They were about the timer. Beating the timer, beating your friends. When mario kart came it was screwing with your friends. Then Crazy Taxi was another joy in the arcade. Manic energy dopamine in a tight space. Playing them for a driving experience is pathetic, have a good day youngin I hope it gets better for you during this lonely summer before school comes back.

>>11960938 (OP)
i only like arcade/silly racing games really. ive just never been into cars and realistic driving sims are not appealing for that reason.

You can tell /vr/ is full of manchildren who still bing bing wahoo in their late 30s and look like moviebob so they can't even get into a car that isn't a truck in the first place

>>11963285
Silly in general is the best part of retro racing. Even the serious stuff like Outrun FEELS kind of goofy. I dont know that they would still sell well today but needing to standout at the arcade and being vibrant and kinda silly helped a lot. Daytona cabinets are stunning in a room

>>11963271
>>11963292
This meltdown happened because someone said you can drive over people in real life too if you're not a coward. Clearly too dangerous an argument.

>>11963260
Jannies, I tried. I even went for the proto-outrun angle, but he's clearly more into outrage than Outrun. Maybe Carmageddon?

>>11963207
>Women absolutely think a normal build 35 yr old with a decent head of hair looks hot because he drives a Jag or an Audi. I've had women tell me that almost verbatim. Not referring to me, about other people. I'm not 35 and certainly don't have a Jag to be clear
That's long gone anon, you're in your 50s

>>11963324
>That's long gone anon, you're in your 50s
nta, but considering the board I'm pretty sure there are quite a number of anons in that range. myself included

>>11962957
I thought it was.

>>11960938 (OP)
Burnout's the only one I ever liked. I genuinely don't understand the appeal of something like Ridge Racer or Gran Turismo. Fuck even the Forza series is boring as all fuck

>>11961257
Literally so bad it killed the franchise

>>11963207
Having ANY car at this point is enough to get bitches. Car culture is dead and rightfully so

Don't like racing games per se but love SEGA. Daytona, Sega Rally, OutRun 2 arcade machines, doesn't get any better. There was something utopian about these works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hpyDMBzDuo

>>11963361
Burnout doesn't have manual transmission. Into the trash it goes.

*filter /vr/*

*filters /vr/*

Rubberband AI.

>>11962957
What is then?

>>11963365
More like so perfect there was no need to continue.

>>11960938 (OP)
It's funny because I recently had the urge to start replaying old racing games. However I like mainly like the more obscure flying /hovercraft/ futuristic ones like wipeout, jet moto, rollcage, streak hoverboard, n gen racing, etc. Then theres also the wacky toon kart racing ones which are also fun. Chocobo, Bomberman, CTR, Motor Toon Grand Prix, Nicktoons, etc etc.

Currently playing N gen, Jet Moto series, and streak hoverboard a lot.

>>11963406
because manual transmissions in arcade games never had a clutch pedal i had no idea such a thing existed until i was like 16 and tried driving my dads truck
>theres a fucking other pedal???

You ever had a friend that wasn't REALLY into fighting games, but said they liked them and when you play together they pick every character on the roster for a single game and then want to turn it off? I think I'm like that for racing games. I play all the maps and then go "okay I've had my fill." I'm not sure what is I want out of them. I find racing fun, but after a few races I don't care to keep running them back.

>>11963207
What about when James May does it?
Because car nerds are a lot more like James May than they care to admit.

>>11961298
Do you race though?

>>11963021
Playing and clearing a game is only a part in speedrunning, a lot of people find it enjoyable to instead look for glitches and skipping stuff that you are not supposed to in a normal run, or maybe abusing broken mechanics, it's like the difference between getting good at a fighting game by beating people and beating the arcade by finding out what loops the enemy AI can't defend against. Because of that, racing games only apeal to a small portion of speedrunners.

>>11961764
This.

I hate how commonly it's used to discredit sport video games... sure, I can go to my yard and kick or throw a ball around on my own, or try to set a match up with friends when our schedules just happen to align, but often it's not that simple. I can't be a professional player or manager, in the major tournaments I enjoy watching, in real life, but I can in a video game.

>>11963591
Every drive feels like a race if you're in the appalachians driving a 250cc inline 4 sportbike

>>11964750
Yes exactly because racing/driving retro games are nothing like driving and racing in real life in any way and framing them that way is a disservice to the things, experiences, and feelings they do well because people get hung up on wanting to pretend that Daytona 500 is at all like being in an actual vehicle which is insane. People need to take them for what they are, scorechasing/timer games based on reaction time just like most other classic arcade games

>>11963393
that tells me so much about burnout's fanbase

Driving games are the one of the lowest forms of video games.
I had a friend with an 80iq and he was the one who told me that. Its fun but its too basic.
This same dude stayed up playing till 4am forza while people around him were getting drunk and one guy was vomitting in his sleep next to him but he just kept on driving.

>>11964775
>yes exactly
>completely misses the point
When someone says a shooting game is realistic, do you have an argument about how it is not at all like a real war? How about a business simulation, it generally isn't particularly accurate to actually managing a business in the retro era is it?

Clearly you can participate in a war yourself and you can start a business, these things are more accessible to the scenarios you can find in most racing games, realistic or not.

As someone likely said before, truly realistic sports games don't really exist as there's no market for it, similarly the market for actual driving simulators is exceptionally tiny outside of the educational market. Same goes for specialized simulators like the ones used by emergency services, though you could probably reliably sell those to enthusiasts.

So I'll ask you why did people play retro flight simulators, racing simulators or even the more niche trucking simulators despite them having some abstractions due to limited hardware or game design choices? An extra question is why did marketing like to play up realism of games even if it's clearly not the real thing?

>>11965723
I forgot about train sims, old as computers themselves due to the relative simplicity of their movement being easier to simulate. Also easy to find the answer to one of those questions as it is played by machinists, but what routes and engines do you think they prefer? Their own, or ones that aren't likely for them to drive?

>>11965723
You're completely missing the point. This is the only genre that has people like those in here vehemently attacking people who disagree about this topic. You don't see these conversations regarding other genres get to this point ever. Especially not regarding /vr/ related games. It's that simple, so TLDR. Why is it that driving a car games brings out the most delusion in its players regarding what theyre doing vs real life

>>11965860
No, because you aren't part of those conversations. You aren't attempting to answer the questions because you'd have your answer.
Having a victim complex over doing something as banal as driving a car is some next level shit.

>>11965651
They're literally the most difficult type of game though, they remain unsolved by AI.
Each control influences every other, its literally not pressing buttons like every other game genre. Strategy can span races that last hours, one mistake at the start carries with you till the end.

Youre literally too low IQ to see it. But youre right about Forza. That game literally drives itself, you cant turn off the secret steering assist.

>>11963492
It's necessary to actually feel like a video game.

>>11965962
It doesn't make sense because this thread isn't about "driving" games. Picrel is a driving game and even that strays from the idea of just having a regular drive through the soothing black void that is the countryside. It should be obvious what is meant here, but he is instead fighting inner demons of his own creation.

>>11965962
I at least answered some of them earlier and other anons did the same further above. But jerk yourself off some more I guess with some longwinded nonsequitor replies, Im going to my local arcade later to try and get my letters on the board and get my time down instead of engaging with the delulu zoomies

>>11966041
>boohoo someone asked me extremely easy questions and spelled out the answers for me
>it just doesn't line up with my random strawman
>I'll be leaving! how does that make you feel...you zoomer!
Make sure to do a flip, you effiminate crybaby.

>>11960938 (OP)
You can't dislike outrun or spy hunter or pole position or wipeout. Its not even physically possible

>>11961294
>creates a system to be less about memorization and makes it more reaction based
>universally panned
why are racing gamers like this?

>>11965723
The point is nobody is telling Arma players to go to the local shooting range instead of play video games not whatever the fuck reddit spaced bullshit you sharted out there.

>>11960938 (OP)
most people are extremely irrational and arbitrary on things they dont know much about or care for so they will just respond with bullshit arbitrary reasons

>>11961280
This, everything else is cope

>>11960938 (OP)
Driving is boring. For me my car (Toyota Corolla) is not more than a tool and I only use it to drive at my office in the next city.
At home I use my bike for all other stuff or walk.

But I love GTA. Nothing better than killing fat black women or jews.

>>11961835
Rally Cross 2? It was my fav ps1 racing game; I spent a lot of time on it, it had backwards and mirror modes, lots of car tweaking, but didn't feel dry like Gran Turismo.

>>11966095
You could say theyre... Racist

>>11966582
This topic is about racing games which GTA isn't thought apart from minigames to be fair. Driving around in the old GTAs is still a blast though

>>11966594
Gran Turismo is extremely dry. At the time on release it was revolutionary for what it achieved and that was fine. But going back to it is painful, almost everything around it aged better in terms of being more fun and eliciting more joy

>>11966292
It's just all cope. Because the same way some people are too unathletic to be able to throw a football to a friend so they contrive all these stupid talking points, they are too young to drive or too poor so they need cope when people tell them sitting at their wheels and having a chair that shakes and a clutch with a stiff spring isn't anything like a car. And it doesn't need to be because retro racing is fun because of being retro racing not because of being car related. Its a car visual on a NOT car experience and people get really angry by that truth

>>11966292
It makes the exact same point, but excessively verbosely so the retard he is replying to can understand. That retard has replied to you and clearly still doesn't understand and is in fact telling you to go to the shooting range.

>>11966629
This. You should just get in your car and drive over thousands of people. Doing it in a videogame is a completely ridiculous waste of time.

"Simfags could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be simfags anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE SIMFAGS" he thought. Once in a Lifetime reverberated his 1996 Toyota Camry CSi, making it creak even as the $13 Dorito Dew™ circulated through his thickly crusted veins and washed away his (merited) fear of rich gaymers after dark. "With a car, I can obey the laws of the road. If I want to race, I should take it to the local racetrack." he said to himself, out loud.

>>11966679
Yoda in his beige 2001 corolla on ketamine driving over the seething anon who with his last dying breath says his logitech setup could also theoretically kill someone if it was dropped on them. Who am I kidding, they dont go outside let alone have the stamina to visit an arcade for an afternoon. I love my arcades racers because theyre so sturdy and the metal frames and floors are just pure kino. The speakers in the headrest ooo yes

>>11966732
Anon captured the essence of a raging incoherent 76 year old.

>>11966626
Go to hell, Carlos!

>>11960938 (OP)
I don't like driving to begin with so why would I enjoy a simulated version of it?

>>11961072
Stop being gay. I can understand why people like cars and racing games even though I can't stand the shit.

>>11966791
>simulated version of it
Crazy Taxi, Mario Kart GP DX, Sega Rally, F-Zero AX, Sonic & Sega Racing, Chocobo Racing Arcade, Battle Gear 4 Tuned
>what did they mean by this?

>>11966748
I think that's just an AI bot.

>what's the difference

I race cars in real life and I love arcadey racing games. Trackmania is probably my favorite modern racing game but sadly it falls short when compared to Whiplash, the greatest racing game ever made, mostly due to lacking wheel-to-wheel competition and the ability to wreck your opponents.

>>11966918
>Whiplash

I know it as
FAAAAAAAATAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL RAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIING

Are there any same-screen multiplayer arcade racing games?

Cars are boring. I don't hate them, I just never felt anything around them. I rode a motorbike IRL for a while, which was cool, then I tried driving a car and just didn't like it.
I enjoy the sense of freedom when driving in games, so I liked driving a car and shooting up shit in Mad Max, but lock me up in a circle and it becomes a snoozefest.
I also enjoyed NFSU2 because of the sense of progression that game had with all the creative unlocks, cool vinyls and part upgrades like that one that looks like you gave Corolla a set of teeth. Cars and races themselves were boring.
Finally, I really enjoyed racing in Star Wars Racer even if that was just making circles, but that's probably because those weren't cars.

>>11961257
finished this game multiple times.
good stuff
>>11963365
it was the very opposite in fact
>NFS was bombing
>burnout paradise was a huge success at the time
>since EA didn't want to have 2 racing series they killed burnout and kept the NFS name and put the team to make a new game for said franchise.

I only like 2D racing games because they almost always had amazing music. one thing I find had started disappearing with the transition to 3D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4l3kpeIbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dLEgNx9X0
hell even ancient ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpzbHphuVrk

Racing games are really fun when they don't even try to be realistic. Fantastical settings like Wipeout or Star Wars or Crash Team Racing are great.
I remember playing NFS: Carbon on the PS2 as a kid and loving it, then I bought NFS: Shift expecting something similar and it was a dull piece of shit with no story, no atmosphere, no music, no original setting or exploration (only irl tracks) and it forced me to use a brake button for the first time in my life. Racing games should be about going fast, and the only way you should interact with a corner is with drifting, not braking.
Also friendly reminder anyone who talks about muh skill ceiling in any genre is an anti-fun fart-huffing fag.

what are the best games for each retro system

>>11967773
Nes is rad racer
SNES is super off-road
Genesis is Virtua racing
Saturn is Daytona 500
PS1 is need for speed hot pursuit (you know it's true anon)
N64 is cruising USA
Dreamcast is metropolis street racer
PS2 is gran Turismo 4
Xbox is project Gotham.
Honorable mentions:
Mario kart 64
Jet moto
Midnight club
Ridge racer
Road rash
Beetle racing
Excite bike
Burnout
Cruising exotica/USA
Other nfs games
Racing lagoon
Looney tunes racing
Diddy Kong racing
Crash kart racing games

>>11961241
Outside of the wacky factor that game was fucking awful.
>miss a single walljump
>end up dead last in race

>>11967773
Rush 2: Extreme Racing USA on N64

Sorry, not sorry.

>>11962234
What the fuck is Anne's problem?

>>11967753
>should
>should
>should
have you been diagnosed?

>>11967893
You don't seem to comprehend that that anon is voicing an opinion. Do you know what that inability is a symptom of?

>>11960938 (OP)
I have no interest in cars or sport, so the subject matter of car sports doesn't attract me. So I just don't care enough to look into such games, never mind trying to get good at them.
Also in my limited experience single player gets old pretty fast, while multi player is easily spoiled if the group has much more/less competitive people.

>>11966918
any other trackmania type retro games?
big fan of hot wheels tier tracks and time trials.

>>11960938 (OP)
I love racing games but it has to have some kind of extra gimmick like Burnout or Flatout etc. I hate racing sims and I even dont like arcade sims like Ridge Racer or Need for Speed. I just get sick of driving cars around with nothing extra happening. I don't have a car fetish so that's probably why

>>11962234
obviously she'll look in the box

>>11970337
if you notice the blood, she actually found the marble there so she killed Anne and put the body inside.

>>11961912
Who said racing genre is inherently about cars?

>>11961985
>they don't have much in terms of substance
As opposed to getting a dopamine rush out of bing bing wahoos or pulling the trigger aiming at someone's head?

>>11964750
>>11961764
it's the exact same argument trannies use to dismiss complaints about ugly manfaced women in modern games. "just watch porn"
it's because they can't actually provide a good counterargument, so they have to belittle you.

>>11969262
I wish PD would make a TT2. Ride is alright but it's filled with Eurojank game design and feels like what it is: middleware.